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Christianity Etc › Re: If Satan Goes To God For Forgiveness Do U Think God Wil Forgive Him? by macof(m): 7:26pm On Sep 23, 2013
Mintayo: ur last statement is not true,satan,d serpent made adam and eve to disobey God.
really? But did he put a gun to their heads and force them? it was their own doing abeg leave serpent alone.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 7:09pm On Sep 23, 2013
cocoduck: You are already confused,you know nothing in the bible and you are so narrow minded.if you say that elijah simply went to heaven then you don't even know anything about the bible. Look google is ur friend. the so called book of enoch has nothing to do with biblical knowledge
2 kings 2:11 clearly states that a chariot of fire appeared and Elijah was taken to heaven by a whirlwind into heaven. Do u want to misquote our Bible? And the book of enoch is more valuable and of more spiritual importance than any book of the Bible, even John the writer of revelations copied alot from Enoch's experience(and posed has his own vision) which was stated in the book of Enoch
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Doesn't Exist; All These Abrahamic Religions Are Deceiving Everybody by macof(op): 6:50pm On Sep 23, 2013
Mintayo: Lolz,i think your question shld be forwarded to alfa althez and judas, and advocate666,they wil tell you he exists and he is their master!
I honestly think those guys are just playing and fooling around, especially alfa
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Doesn't Exist; All These Abrahamic Religions Are Deceiving Everybody by macof(op): 6:48pm On Sep 23, 2013
andy24: Repent before it is too late.
I used to talk like u once, but I started growing up and thinking for myself not dwelling only on wat my pastors say, but reading and making my own research. U should do the same.
Christianity Etc › Satan Doesn't Exist; All These Abrahamic Religions Are Deceiving Everybody by macof(op):
I would like Christians, Jews and Muslims to tell Nairalanders if they have ever seen, heard, dreamt, had a vision or any prove to back the claim of Satan's existence. U say he is evil being a thief and a killer. what has he stolen? who has he killed?. what is his gender? how do u know he exist?. Am probably beginning to sound like an atheist but Keep calm am not an Atheist, however in this world u have to have a reason to believe something. I went to church yesterday and the pastor was saying "devil is in trouble" "devil is mad" etc. I wonder how the pastor knows the devil that he is saying the devil is in trouble. many Christians have said things about Christ has already won the battle against the Devil. so wat are these Christians still fighting against?. they say satan brought sin to the world, but how? My view on this is that Man is his own devil and his conscience is his Judge; Adam and Eve ate the damn fruit out of curiosity and not the devil deceiving them, if anything the serpent only told Eve the truth, And God acknowledged that by saying "man has become like us, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:22). Cain killed Abel out of anger and jealousy caused when God rejected his sacrifice but accepted Abel's, Even when God caused flood over the world, it was solely on mans wicked doings. Men are the evil to the world as even brothers cause harm to each other on selfish basis, armed robbers, politicians loathing government funds, etc. are Men at work, No devil in play here. The Devil has u know it is just a character in an ancient horror story.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Satan Goes To God For Forgiveness Do U Think God Wil Forgive Him? by macof(m): 4:28pm On Sep 23, 2013
Joagbaje: If Satan repents , God will forgive him. But their are 2 problems. Satan like other angels are not created in the image of God like us. They dont have ability to repent. Secondly Satan is personally proud. He can't repent. He is still mobilising his army for the great battle of Gog and Magog. And Armageddon . He still believes he will defeat God one day. He Looks down on Gods authority. So he cant even think of failing his followers by repenting.
u didnt read the part of the bible that states "let us create man in our own image, after our likeness" who was God referring to? Oga Man are of the same image with all of the angels + demons and of course God and Satan
Christianity Etc › Re: If Satan Goes To God For Forgiveness Do U Think God Wil Forgive Him? by macof(m): 4:18pm On Sep 23, 2013
frosbel: Satan was a covering cherub , one of the highest ranks of an angel in Heaven.

He saw GOD face to face,  he was HOLY and Righteous and wonderfully made.

But he rebelled against a greater LIGHT , after seeing GOD for what he is , merciful , loving and just .

He also led a myriad of angels in rebellion against GOD , so this was a mass revolt led by the ingrate called SATAN.

Continuing, , he instigated the first murder in the human world and has been behind some of the most savage and brutal ideologies and regimes in human history.

He has been judged and once a sentence has been given it must be carried out.

All those who ally themselves with Satan will also share in his DOOM.

"For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgement."- 2 Peter 2 :4
am yet to undertand where and when the devil brought sin to the world. cain killed abel because God was partial against cain by accepting only abel's sacrifice. God At fault.
Adam and eve eat of the fruit because the serpent told eve the truth. so is telling the truth a sin? and shey serpent na devil? Devil as u know it doesnt exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Satan Disappears, Then God Is Useless by macof(m): 4:12pm On Sep 23, 2013
Ajibam: outsmart?
he is already a defeated fellow..my charges christ has as already d e'er defeated him...
shocked christ has already defeated him? then why do u christains still cast devil? that means u all doing nonsense in your churches and deliverance is rubbishly useless
Christianity Etc › Re: If Satan Disappears, Then God Is Useless by macof(m): 4:06pm On Sep 23, 2013
[quote author=tony_runo]Funny how christians are always binding, casting, stamping(mfm cheesy), stoning, beating, flogging, torturing, and doing all sorts to the devil regularly but careful enough to not kill him.....i guess they do need him afterall...i wonder what would happen if the devil were to go on a sabbatical leave of some sort? smiley i reckon God would miss him the most! Opening verses in the Book of Job clearly shows that they are good mates! Both plotting how to 'fukk' up pple's lives in the name of testing their faith....: There's a meeting going on....satan, God's "supposed" enemy makes an appearance....instead of throwing him out.... "Oi, where u been bro? Oh! Jus chillin' bro...Walking to and fro around the earth....pssssh, u seem bored...*rubbing palms together* Boy! have I got a job for u?! i dont have to put it all out like that but i believe u know what to do smiley....And the drilling began :/[/quote]lmao cheesy cheesy I cant stop laughing at ur post. u have a point there, God and satan are good pals at times
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 3:39pm On Sep 23, 2013
cocoduck: You are a funny boy. Which one is the book of enoch. you don't even know anything thing in the bible. fyi elijah did not go to space, HE was taken to another part of the earth to stop his enemies from getting hold of him 2nd chronicles he wrote a letter from wherever was living to elisha. the bible say that only a fool Says there is No God. you want to tell me that all the scientists that are Christians aRe fake.
ur lack of knowledge is so glaring, U dont even know about the book of enoch which your Christian/Jewish masters refused to add to the Bible. And dont try to confuse people here, Elijah went to heaven in a chariot of fire. simple!
Christianity Etc › Re: Lucifer Is Not Satan Or The Devil by macof(m): 3:25pm On Sep 23, 2013
I like the reference of Prometheus in relation to the devil. according to Genesis, Men were foolish, primitive beings but after eating/receiving the fruit/secrets of Fire they became more like gods, even God recognised that and got angry. eating that fruit was pretty much a blessing as it gave understanding and wisdom, which God didnt want for man.
lightwalk: @Poster: I hope you're sane grin
You are only confirming that Lucifer is the devil, if you call him lightbearer that one na ur own palava. Maybe they are decieving in you in one occult like that. He is just the devil because he disobeyed God and also caused man to disobey God too.
how did he cause man to disobey God? your man did that shit cus he wanted to deep down but just wanted a boost, kinda like waiting for someone to give him morale grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Lucifer Is Not Satan Or The Devil by macof(m): 3:14pm On Sep 23, 2013
ttalks: Stop being so predictable and go and read the bible very well.
Lucifer is not Satan.

Lucifer is a latin word that should not have been placed in the KJV bible since it(Old testament) was written in Hebrew.
It is not the name of anybody or personality.
It(son of the morning) was only used to refer the King of Babylon and never Satan.

Check other bible versions and u will not find the word Lucifer in that position but rather the true/proper word(s).

It was the king of Babylon who thought he could exalt his throne to the heavens; not Satan.

The point in all this is to let people know that satan was never a pure and beautiful angel from the beginning as is popularly taught, but an evil being from the very beginning.
He was created so by God for the purpose which he has been fulfilling and still is fulfilling.

John 8:44
(44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
so who is the father of satan?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Will All Muslim Go To Hell. by macof(m): 3:06pm On Sep 23, 2013
striktlymi: Goes to show that my meaning of hell and yours aint the same.
which one is meaning of hell isn't the same huh Hell is Hell no two hells and there's nothing to hell apart from being a torture house full of unquenchable fire... isn't that what Abrahamic religions(which inverted hell) says??
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Only Die For Sins Of Ignorance ? by macof(m): 2:36pm On Sep 23, 2013
No comment for 6yrs embarassed cry na so ur topic useless reach? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Only Die For Sins Of Ignorance ? by macof(m): 2:35pm On Sep 23, 2013
No single comment for 6yrs embarassed cry na so ur topic useless reach? grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Will All Muslim Go To Hell. by macof(m): 2:31pm On Sep 23, 2013
striktlymi: Yes, if my meaning of Hell is the same as yours.



Yes, if my meaning of Hell is the same as yours.



Yes, for 'Christians'.
so upon all the blesses and godliness of all those people they still went to hell? huh cry let a Jew read ur comment first. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Angel Micheal Worships Jesus by macof(m): 2:20pm On Sep 23, 2013
The angels is part of/God himslef in Jewish Myth. read Genesis 19 and 27 carefully when Abraham and Jacob refered to angels as God. The NT then changed that concept and proclaimed Jesus as God
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Will All Muslim Go To Hell. by macof(m): 2:10pm On Sep 23, 2013
striktlymi: Quite on the contrary, my post addressed your questions.


The first is dependent on what you call hell. If you and I have the same meaning for hell then all who did good before Christ experienced hell, though temporarily. This addresses your first question.

The second states that good works are necessary to attain salvation, even tough it would need to be made whole by Christ's sacrifice. This addresses your second question.
ok, lemme get this straight
1. All who did good before christ went to Hell? eg. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Samuel, David, Elisha, Isaiah etc.
2. when Jesus died, He went to hell to free them?
3. U must believe in Jesus and live a good/righteous life? pls I want a clear answer, YES/NO is PREFERABLE
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Or Serpent:Who Was Cursed? by macof(m): 2:00pm On Sep 23, 2013
truthman2012: Firstly, I want to use this opportunity to inform your brother, tintingz on his post on "The Bible Proves Muhammad As A False Prophet" which was closed by the mod. It was about Jesus being tempted by Satan. In case he is following this thread of yours, please let him open a thread so that we can discuss it. Thanks.

On your questions, I have the following answers.

Question one
What language did the serpent speak to Eve?

Eve was a human who must be speaking a language. The same language the Serpent must have used to communicate with her. I will answer your question here with another one: what language was Eve speaking? I'm sure Eve is mentioned in your quran too.

Question two
It seems the serpent was to start moving on its belly as we truly have it today after the curse,telling us that it was not its belly before.So what was it using to move before the curse?

This is an obvious case. The fact that the Bible says it was cursed to move on its belly shows it was moving on its legs before.

Question three
I have been to the Zoological Garden and I never found any species of serpent/snake feeding on dust.If anyone has a snake that feeds on dust as claimed by the bible should please tell us the species of that snake.
No insults please.

There is no way you can be so sure that snake does not feed on dust for the few hours you spent in the Zoo. You know Zoo is under management by people. They feed the animals therein. If it was not hungry it would not eat anything. Or what was it eating when you were there?

Satan As Snake

Revelation 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan , and bound him a thousand years,

The old serpent is referring to the one that deceived Adam and Eve. So it was Satan that was cursed.

Spirits do assume human and animal forms at will. They have that power. Even in Africa, witches assume or put on animal forms, bird, goat, cat etc. At that time in question, Satan decided to assume the form of a serpent.

I cannot find anything difficult in the questions you have raised.
so if it was satan that shape-shifted to a serpent, why were the serpents of the world cursed? wetin concern them? And why do u over-religious christians see Snakes, Owls, cats and some few others as evil beast?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Sinned First, Satan Or Adam ? by macof(m): 1:48pm On Sep 23, 2013
there's no devil...he's just a character from a Jewish horror story grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Will All Muslim Go To Hell. by macof(m): 1:32pm On Sep 23, 2013
striktlymi: 1) It depends on what you refer to as hell. Personally I believe the true pain of hell is the loss associated with not being able to be in God's presence. The human spirit (soul if you like) yearns to be re-united with its maker (whether we recognize it or not). It derives its joy and peace from God. To be barnished from the one who holds the key to the joy of the soul is devastating in itself. Hence, anyone who was deprived the beatific vision (whether temporarily or for all eternity) can be said to have experienced some of the pangs of hell.

2) I believe firmly that belief in Christ is the same thing as doing good. Anyone who claims to be Christian and refuses to do good, is getting himself prepared to be cut off from Christ on the last day. Hence, no one can make heaven without doing good.
not an answer to my questions
Culture › Re: Yoruba Origin Revisited by macof(m): 1:22pm On Sep 23, 2013
[quote author=tpia@]^all these your backhanded insults na wa.

anyway, looking at yoruba origins should entail examining the history of the different regions.

ijebu, for instance has benin origin or something like that.

ekiti, i believe, is also benin.[/quote]which kyn mumu be this onehuh abeg o, am Ekiti nd we did not come from bini. we came from ile-ife, so did ijebu and all who regard themselves yoruba
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:58pm On Sep 23, 2013
Abdul Fattah: Not true.
Please do not confuse the mentioned monotheistic religions with Pantheism.
The Men that came to Abraham's tent when he was 99yrs old, He called them God, The same 3men went to destroy Sodom and Gomora. The angel jacob wrestled with he called him God. I cant give bible reference right now, but u should read genesis carefully
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Will All Muslim Go To Hell. by macof(m): 12:43pm On Sep 23, 2013
striktlymi: Um...before I answer your question, I need to address the bold. Good works without the sacrifice of Christ cannot merit anyone heaven. This is the reason why those who did good prior to the coming of Christ were not admitted into heaven, as Christ himself confirms:

John 3:13
King James Version (KJV)


13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.


Christ won for us the right to heaven, as his sacrifice on the cross destroyed the barrier the sin of Adam placed between us and our Father in heaven. For everyone was born into sin:

Psalm 51:5
King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.


Now to your question...Preaching the good news does not save the world. Christ has already saved it by his sacrifice. Our preaching is to let everyone know about this saving work of Ch

battery low...
few points to clarify
1. all the people before Jesus went to hell?
2. believe in Jesus, whether u live righteously or not u would still make heaven?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:32pm On Sep 23, 2013
victorv12: Science and Religion are just two sides of the same coin. One prefers to use its head while the other relies on tales.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:21pm On Sep 23, 2013
ifeness: The bible claimed Adam heard the footsteps of 'god' in the garden of Eden. That is enough evidence that god was flesh and blood.
am sure it wasn't God he heard, it must have been an animal grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:19pm On Sep 23, 2013
vislabraye: Science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. They both work hand in hand. Its the same Bible that said the earth is a sphere ( read Isaiah 40). After many years, everyone now believed it.
When Kepler said the earth is a sphere, the early church attacked him. In those days, scientists were attacked by the church. And that's how they formed the illuminati.
But today, we know better.
Btw, Isaac Newton was a christian.
that reminds me of how Christians call Illuminati, devil worship group grin everything na devil for their eye
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:13pm On Sep 23, 2013
jmoore: God is love.
In the beginning was the word(John chapter 1). Jesus is God.
In Christianity, Islam and Judaism everything is God grin. even Abraham and Jacob called Angels God
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:08pm On Sep 23, 2013
bernonpoint: In summary: Since the beginning of time, Christianity has been called upon to fill in the blank space that science cannot provide and no matter how science thrive there will still be some nagging questions which only religion can provide answers.
what is this one saying? since beginning of timehuh was Christianity there since the beginning of time?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity And Science by macof(m): 12:03pm On Sep 23, 2013
Donmichaelz: Science says- Evolution
Christianity say- GOD

Science say-Mother nature
Christianity-Father God

Science say-Homo erectus
Christianity-Human

Science say-NUK
Christianity-Nope

Science say-NAIRALAND
Christianity say- read Bible its more profitable

Science is a branch of
Christianity that was separated by an Idiiot who fail to give the creator credit for his Creation
















BY THE WAY
AM



JEWISH!!!!!
aren't Jews suppose to be against Christianity?
Culture › Re: Who Are The Akoko Of Northern Ondo State? by macof(m):
eziza: So you mean say for dis small kpangolo 9ja wey we dey so, you never hear of Obahiagbon the gammarian?

Ok ooo...

Obasohan
Obasogie
Obasuyi
Obakpolor
Obadigie
Obamwonyi
Obaretin
Igbinoba
Ikponmwonba
Ohonba
Obobaifo
Aiguobasiwin
Aikhionbare
Aiwerioba
Edoba
Enobakhare
Eghobamien

....just to name a few.

and oh btw, Oba is an Edo word!
I just wanted examples. Btw Oba was a Yoruba first

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