₦airaland Forum

pazienza:

You are not even able to spot your problems glaring to all and sundry, yet you feel you can profer advice to Ndiigbo,a people one step ahead of your people, seeing as they had already spotted their problem(Nigeria) and are currently working on solving it.

Can you see how confused you lots are?

dumb piece of shiit. the Yoruba have no problem with kwara, Yoruba is the dominant force in the State. that you are a nigerian and don't know this means that you are very stuupid and ignorant... stop trying to force your delusion on Yorubas. is it by force?

pazienza:
Really? Maybe you should face your Kwara failure and spend less time on Igbo issues.

There is no such thing as kwara failure, if you spent more time on "Nigerian issues" you would know that. Dummy ibo

pazienza:
Never needed nor solicited for advice from a Yoruba.

Nobody asked for your treacherous advice, you can go shove it down where the sun doesn't shine!

Enjoy your failure

But op, how does this origin story make sense to you?

pazienza:
An advice from
the devil is worth more than those from you lots.

That is why you always engage in failed movements

That you need this kind of advice in the first place shows how confused you are as a people

Forcing non Igbos into your biafra agenda Nigeria part 2

pazienza:
If we know what we are doing, then we shouldn't be taking advice from a Yoruba.

Lol. When you can't advise yourselves

A pitiful confused lot

PetMallNG:
Colobus monkeys are beautiful, but they are used in relation to twins for two main reasons:

1. They give birth to twin babies, and mothers are seen holding one, and backing the other

2. They are endemic to Isokun where the 3rd alaafin is believed to have sent his twins and their mother to hide to protect them from the tradition of killing twins, (hence them being hailed as ako'bi Alaafin, abi'gbeyin Ooni I.e. 1st born of tge Alaafin, last born of the Ooni)

What tradition of killing twins

pazienza:
Interesting. Never knew Idomas other than those in Ette,Enugu state are supposed to be part of Biafra.

Cos I'm struggling to see how they fit into the Biafran ideology, please no one should tell me anything about the two wrapper ish, cos that's childish.

Even those in Enugu as well as Igala in Anambra should not be part of biafra. If at all you all know what you are doing, this should be a mono-ethnic movement

We should promote unity in ethnicities first... its stupid that ethnicities have been divided up into different states like this

Number 2 reason why biafra will not be achieved

Y'all don't know your boundary

jjjjj2017:
smh, why are u telling us ur papa name?

You are one of the fools obviously

It's your kind that inherit foolishness

itsJude:
no be small family civil war happen b4 this wedding take place , most especially from his side


Its good that he conquered their mumu talks and followed his heart

The man looks good but the woman no be virgin , in the south west they are extinct


Make una flex jor , where those ibot yoot and afon warriors while una dey online they shout the ones when get sense dey mix up


We are one , una go tire

I would think Igbos place less value on virginity

How does igbo culture encourage Sexual morality?

PapiNigga:
Watch Video Here: https://twitter.com/Tofetsports/status/868808675837825025?s=09


Chelsea and Super Eagles star, Victor Moses got married to his long time partner in London today.

The wedding comes a week after winning the Premier League with Chelsea and a day after receiving a red card in Chelsea’s FA Cup final 2-1 loss to Arsenal.

The couple, who exchanged marital vows in the front of few family members, friends and colleagues, already have two kids together, a five-year-old son Brentley and a two-year-old daughter Nyah.


Having managed to keep this family very private, not much is known about his wife but it is reported that Moses’ bride is an English woman of Nigerian descent.

http://www.lubeynaija.com/2017/05/victor-moses-gets-married-to-long-time.html?m=1

People of the 21st century...the ever so glorified and hyped 21st century do not know the meaning of "marriage"

What this is here is a wedding ceremony

The marriage has been in existence for years

It's not until you have a wedding that you have a wife

Fools, why mention Idolatry?

After all the efforts people have made to enlighten you, you still remain this foolish. Smh

FYI, Christianity is as Idolatrous as African traditions which you morons like to call Idolatry

igbodefender:
@ macof,
Please, why do you keep starting Oduduwa's name in small caps? Maybe you are doing it unknowingly, so I had to call your attention to it. Please capitalize His Name in all your posts in this thread. Thanks.

Lol. Sorry, you are really something else with this interest in Yoruba history

The small caps are saved in my keypad autocorrect so I don't have to type all letters of the name

igbodefender:
Ajibosin may have become a ruler via Oduduwa, but he is also a grandson of Obatala. That makes Owu an Obatala town/kingdom in Yoruba Land.

are you now Olowu? Or is your lineage from Owu?

Owu is known as an oduduwa's child's(grandson) town

The biological paternity is irrelevant in the tradition at Ife and all Owu communities,

igbodefender:
Have you forgotten that sometimes when reference is made to the children of the founder/legendary leader of a people, it is not just the biological descendants that are referred to but also his close relations, his servants and their descendants? For instance, when reference is made to the children of Abraham, the descendants of his whole household are included, not just his biological descendants.

Or take for example the Yoruba. They are often generally known as the children of Oduduwa, despite the fact that you have aborigines who were there when he came. So, even from the Obamakin perspective, the Ugbo are still Obatala's children. The strongman in ancient communities molds the people to become one family under him and over time that sought of crystallizes.

But on the issue of Ugbo not being biologically descended from Obatala, let's see if research will be published disproving that.

Yes. That happens with royalty all over the world. For instance, Prince Charles's claim to the English crown is not through his Greek father Prince Phillip, but through his English mother Queen Elizabeth. Even the present Ooni of Ife, from what I hear claims the crown from his maternal side, not his paternal side.

But biologically, Ajibosin was also descended from Obatala. That is why in Igbodefender posts we go through great pains to state that Oduduwa's Order is the reigning order in Yoruba Land. Historical facts aside, everyone recognizes the cultural foundation of Yoruba Land and its people as being connected principally to Oduduwa's intervention in Ife, not Obatala's prior rule of Ile Ife. But Obatala was also great, for Oduduwa to reconcile with him, give him his first child as wife and ask him to assist in ruling Ife.

With my last post I already trashed the things you hang on to as points to buttress your claim
1. Ugbo are children of Obamakin not Obatala, in whatever way you choose to understand the word or position of "children"
2. Owu as a town is more connected oduduwa. Ajibosin is considered a member of oduduwa's household

So leave these two issues already, bring something else if you have

igbodefender:
What will you say about the town of Oguta in Imo State that has an Owu Festival like other Owu towns in today's Yoruba Land, aongst other similar features like the Osere and Iyasare titles (Ugbo Ilaje people- who are also Obatala descendants- call their own Yasara). The Oguta even believe that they came from somewhere West ofthe Niger.

According to Yoruba history, Oduduwa reconciled with Obatala and to seal that reconciliation, he gave out his first daughter, Princess Okanbi Iyunade to Obatala, the Osere Igbo and Oba Igbo. Now the first Owu, Ajibosin was being carried as a kid by Obatala, when he reached out and started crying for his father's crown. The father made him a king right there (ask and it shall be given unto you).

All Owu settlements celebrate this annual Owu Festival include many in Igbo Land. And all these Owu towns are, whether we like it or not, Obatala towns. If not, why would they be celebrating Owu Festival?

Ugbo are not Obatala descendants but supporters led by his brother Obamakin, I've never come across any information associating any of Obatala's children to Ugbo(who settled at modern Mokuro), his children in Ife have always been in Iranje, others who left went to found other towns like Ifon and Ipetumodu


Yes Ajibosin was a son of Obatala and Iyunade but his claim to a crown was not through Obatala..he got his crown while crying on oduduwa's lap not Obatala
He was considered of the line of oduduwa

Even in the Obatala cult, Ajibosin is not recorded as a true son. He is counted as a member of oduduwa's household all over yorubaland

igbodefender:
The Obatala towns of Southern Nigeria are towns found in Yoruba Land and Igbo Land that were founded fully or partially by descendants of the Obatalas of Ile Ife. They include Ugbo, Owu and Owu settlements all over Igbo Land and Yoruba Land, Ugbodu, Onicha Ugbo, Onitsha Ado, Ugbokko Araba (sounds like Idi Araba, right?), and many others.

The Obatalas were the rulers of Ile Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa The Great. They also had other titles like Oba Igbo and Osere Igbo.

Igbos and Yorubas should stop quarreling, as they have many deep linkages between them. They are twins bound togather forever, whether they like it or not. And they can do great things together.

We are currently looking into deeply of these, and would bring you more refreshing history soon.It will be well with the Igbos and Yorubas. Amen.
Source: http://www.igbodefender.com/2017/05/24/the-obatala-towns-of-igbo-land-and-yoruba-land/

While it's true that Yoruba and Igbo share common origin, that history is not what you are posting here

Yoruba and Igbo connection goes way back, older than the events of the Obatala and oduduwa period.
Every town descendants of Obatala founded are on record, even more clarity exists in this case than that of towns founded by descendants of oduduwa

igbodefender:
What Obi of Onitsha and Olugbo said are the truth.However, the Ooni is the guardian of that truth. He is of the order of Oduduwa, but history is history.

So you Igbos don't really have history? This is sad

lepasharon:
Well she is not in Africa. So you can be sure the men are not doing it for superstition

you think occult practices are strictly african?

Koolking:
She looks like a She-male vampire.

Men still care about virgins in this 21 century?

why not?

It should be encouraged

GuyfawkesAB:
Dullard.

Benin Kingdom no reach Ibadan sef. West Africa gini?

Hope you didn't write this rubbish in your just concluded WAEC?

know

The entire Bini empire that was not as big as modern Oyo state is what foolish Bini people claim to be the biggest empire in Africa

Those people are running mad gradually

Johnhug66:
there is difference btw God and god. I don't expect anything reasonable 4rm someone who calls a mortal like himself king of kings. The king of kings can kill any king any time. SHOW SOME RESPECT TO UR MAKER

Is there a difference between dog and Dog?

You people fooling yourselves with an ordinary letter capitalization that really holds no meaning

The Ooni is King of Kings. It's not about the man but the throne

KingOvoramwen1:
Shut up your mouth offspring of liars and thief's

Lol

The liar knows himself

KingOvoramwen1:
Yoruba and their useless irrelevant lies & fallacies

Yoruba don't lie and make fallacies

So far we know the people known for claiming everything they never had

KingOvoramwen1:
WHY DONT THIS KINGS IN EKITI AND ONDO GO AND PAY HOMAGE TO THE SOURCE OF THIER ANCESTORS IN BENIN!!

lol


Bini and their wild fantasies

tafabaloo:
I'm a yoruba man but the story of Oduduwa being the progenitor of the Yoruba race is tainted with fallacies.

The Biblical account of origin of different languages appears more credible than the so called trekking from Middle- East as well as that of being dropped by chain from heaven


Unfortunately, it appears we cannot trace our origin and let's accept it as the truth.

Anyway, I stand to be corrected if you are armed with indisputable fact.

Oduduwa can refer to the Imole of creation or the king of Ife

Oduduwa the king came from Oke-ora, this is why during the coronation of every ooni, they must go to Oke-ora to prepare oduduwa's crown before he comes down to collect the crown of Obatala(the Aare)

What you call spiritual is actually science

People just think "modern science " is the only form of science

Shrines are just like labs

OLAADEGBU:
Who is the Holy Spirit? Is the Holy Spirit God? Is the Holy Spirit the Third Person of the Trinty?

The Holy spirit is the author of all confusion

BininEmpire:
The most criminal tribe in UK are Afonjas, go to Europe and ask of Benin history, we are the greatest people ever recognized in West Africa,

the only thing benin is known for in europe and anywhere in the world is Art and Monarchy which Ife granted you

your ancestors were grateful to the Ooni all this centuries, inferiority complex obtained from Nigerian politics has made you lot curse your benefactors. Ungrateful swines

Elagancy:
if I may ask do u know why de old time rift btw de alafin of Oyo and ooni of ife exists. lemme telk u if u don't
oranmiyan, after leaving ile binu which is present day Benin, he went to establish his own empire, de Oyo empire. wen after his fathers death he was called upon to take over de seat of ife, he decline since he preferred to head de Oyo empire dat he founded to inheriting his fathers seat. so he put his fathers servant whose name was ooni which means escapee on de seat and appoint someone from Oyo to go and deputise (which literally mean to check and balance de activities of dis servqnt-cum-leader). dis deputy was named de obalufe of ife which means de king of ifeland of ife to dis day. use ur head to put two and two together. if u doubt, Google and wikipedia is ur friend

lmao. did u learn this from edoworld.com? cus this is all false

analice107:
You primarily malign, so i won't give you the honour.

if at all you care about the issue the op raised you would not leave my post unaddressed