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SolidGenius:
Nice Move... This Chinese would go any length to force their thrash down our throats. Sad that our youths now prefer ZEE, Telemundo, Philippines soap operas and Korean movies to our very own indigenous movies.

when the indigenous films are full of shit nko?

AmuDimpka:
They are not Yoruba and they have made that position clear ..That awori and Egun isn't..Even some ijebu hate Ben called w Yoruba

lmao ..what all you dumb people say sometimes ehn. if awori and ijebu aren't yoruba then there's no yoruba in this world

I've always known he is a criminal

kingship in yorubaland has gone to dirt because of these useless princes that the more useless kingmakers make Oba

Funjosh:
This is one of the tribe i have had less contact with in Nigeria.

how is nupe a tribe why would people call well organized groups that built kingdoms and empires tribes

Omooba77:
Thou shall call his name Jesus ......Matthew 1:21.
What does the name Jesus mean to you as a Christian? Compliments of the season Sir and ma!

first of all, the man if he ever existed( thoiugh i think he did, just not how the bible portrays) never beared the name 'Jesus'

jesus is a fake name attached due to errors in transliteration

RedboneSmith:
Is it mere coincidence that all these Nigerian "Israelites" are deeply Christian, and all these Nigerian "Arabians" are deeply Muslim?

these two religions are a great evil to africa. imagine the madman still quoting me with nonsense, yet not a single thread of evidence to back his statements...but of course, there isn't any evidence at all


anybody who thinks yoruba are not related to Edos, igbos, Fons etc, rather hebrews or arabs needs a brain check.

Olu317:
Little do you know. I am tempted to believe that you know little or let mention here or much about a legend scientist called Einstein, whose work Waves Theory of over 70 + years was proved to be true in 2016. The truth about life is when one decides to open his her mind to both rational and irrational thought, then you find in between the silver lining. Bro, you need to read beyond Nigeria and stop condemning the truth. If Yoruba were local people, how come Sultan Bello mentioned Yoruba as Remnant of Canaanites?are you countering this view? how come, all the researchers in the past credited Yoruba having Israelites culture embedded in our culture? How come Dierk Lange new about the worship of Seven Skull of the ancient kings of Israel under the name of OBATALA?, Then I realized, certain mistakes you made which was, how on earth do you ascertain the original way the Hebrews /Jews/Israelites/Aramaic pronounces? Proof a picture to me where you had studied enough to have seen a Davidic lineage portrait, if it is not assumptions ?

listen, never quote again to this nonsense! I dont have time for madness

I am not hebrew and have nothing to do with the middle eastern cultures or language. if your father is hebrew, cool, go and start living in israel( land of your masters)..

all this madness is getting out of hand. christianity has fried this one's brain like akara

harrison12:
Are you in a relationship where you have this strong feeling that your partner isn't just right for you? You try your possible best to believe anything he or she tells you, and you feel your relationship just don't isn’t just going right? If you feel this way, I think it’s time you confirm your instinct about him or her.




1. Excuse all the way

When your partner always gives excuse for every single thing they do, He or she claims they don't call much because of always been busy, and when you experience this, you say to yourself "he is not caring" My dear he or she doesn’t just show lack of concern for you, he doesn’t love you. Get that! If your partner gives you the 24/7 excuse, my dear there is no love there. No matter how busy your partner is and there is love, they will never click the excuse icon!






2. You try to make it work

I tell you! When you are the one always putting your effort in trying to make sure your relationship works and your partner doesn't even care how the relationship stands, then you should know that you are dating the wrong person.



3. They doesn’t mention you to their family

When your partner doesn't make attempt to introduce you their family members, then you should know someone is already been introduced. You are just on stand-by as far as I am concerned!.






4. No plans?

When Your partner doesn't even have a reasonable goal for the relationship not to talk of having plans for how the future will look like, he or she doesn't like talking of where the relationship stands and where it’s going, and if you ask them were you stand in the relationship, they are fond of saying something unreasonable or they will shy away from your question or they get angry.
This attitude shows that you are dating the wrong person and you need to do something about it.






5. Never shows up for your Memorable Event

Your partner claims you are special, he or she loves and can’t do without you blablabla!! How will you feel when he or she doesn't show up on the day of your graduation? Or doesn't show up to celebrate with you should you get a promotion at your work place and most especially birthdays. I know you are asking what if something very important took place, even if something very crucial happened and he or she apologizes, then what happens to other days when he or she does the same thing.




6. Your feelings keeps telling you they are not right person

Does a voice keep telling you that your partner is not real? Or your relationship doesn't just feel right? Hmm, your instinct must be right, follow it!






7. Finds it hard to introduce You to their friends or Introduces You as "friend" to his friends

I mean who does that? You two fall in love, experience ups and downs, deal with situations together and all your partner does is say "meet my friend" to their friends, Or they won’t even mention you to their friends. Gosh! It hurts dear, because it shows they are not proud of you still and they don’t love or even like you. Such a person can kill.






8. Poor or no Connection

When they find it hard to call or text you or don't even do any at all but on rare occasions. Connection is one very strong basis of a relationship if it’s not there, then it’s just a "replaytionship".


Must Read: how to regain trust in a relationship



9. You feel You are Single

When you are in a relationship where you feel you are lonely and you feel single, what does that signify to you? It shows how unimportant you are in the relationship. It shows that you are definitely with the wrong person.






10. No care

You are just there, he or she doesn't care if you have eaten, how your day went, finds it hard checking on you to the extent you call to let them know you still alive. Hmm! That isn’t right if you really want to have a long-lasting relationship.

who broke your heart op

Olu317:
it has nothing to do with obsession. “ohr",it is called by people who claimed it as Hebrew and written by English and western scholars who were historians. I am going to send to you in few days eye opener. Once again, it has nothing to do with obsession but the foundation of which a monotheistic being called ‘El'shadai ( Elshada(Asheda/)is synonym.

please I'm a very busy person. try not to mention me to crazy things like this


El Shaddai means Deity of the high points, which refers to mountains... some early translators thought it to mean " God almighty" ... yahweh - the god of Israel was originally a Kenite deity, generally considered as the God of the mountains and sky who had the stars and rocks as his army (figuratively speaking of course)
many times in Hebrew scriptures, yahweh is said to send his "hosts of heaven (the sky)"...referring to stars. . Yahweh has also been repeatedly associated with mountains eg. Mt. Sinai, Horeb, Zion.
in fact Jewish scriptures state hr resides in the Mt. Zion



El Shaddai has not to do with Aseda who in Yoruba cosmology is Obatala Aseda Aye

Aseda means "one who sets foundation" it has no correlation with "deity of the high points"

Olu317:
I insist “ARA" is light.. ARAZIEL / ARA-ZI-EL(light of God) in Israeli. No obsession but I am open to critics view. The Bible remained the greatest historic book which has information on humanity. Either with knowing the description of important people who had existed in thousands of years ago. And can always serve as weapon against spiritual book of protection and guidance for Christians.

your case is more than I thought. seek help my fellow yoruba man, seek help you are not thinking straight

Olu317:
.Macof, I have been looking for this ever since I discovered your depth bout Yoruba history. First, this is the rule. Be open to adventurism and not localising Yoruba identity. Can you tell me why “OBA"DIAH(Obadiya ,name of Yorubas ) is a name of the Israelites /Hebrews /Jews/Aramaic ? in the Bible?, can you tell why why JOSHUA used “Ashè" to command the sun? specifically, relate to Yoruba and Israelites only? Do you know ARA is light in Hebrew?

smh. I think you are too obsessed with hebrews, It has to do with your christian background and indoctrination that Hebrews are a special people. clinging to them means a lot to you.#
when you have sang 'abraham is my father' so many times you have now gotten to actually believe it


You can twist and wish all you like but I will tell you this; the bible is not a history book.

also, I looke it up, Light in hebrew is 'ohr' not 'ara',

the sun doesn't have a general orbit, it is rather a cental object being orbitted...which is the other way round. it is the earth that moves around the sun not the sun moving around the earth...this is basic physics that 10 year olds know, so your bible's tale of joshua is more stupod than a virgin giving birth

what business does 'obadiah' have to do with yoruba lanuage?, please dont disturb me with things like this...in your head every language that has words with 'oba' is related to yoruba. please go and read about Anglicization of hebrew names, there's no such thing as 'obadiah' in hebew language... what they have is 'ovadyah'('abdyah' in Aramaic) meaning servant of yah, which english language rendered as 'obadiah'


something is really wrong with the way you take ethnology and linguistics

peckhamboi:
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.

Oduduwa murdered Obatala Ugbo believe oduduwa came from Bini stop saying rubbish like this


Obatala left ife for some time out of anger and shame of losing, but returned after being appeased and even given oduduwa's first daughter as a wife... their child became the Olowu


After oduduwa's death, Obatala's younger brother Obamakin started another war and won...Oranmiyan returned years later and took back the throne to house of oduduwa..
it was all a fight of the fittest. the house of oduduwa regaining the throne caused the Ugbo descendants and followers of Obamakin and Obatala(both now dead) to resort to terrorizing Ife


Moremi put a final end to all the chaos

xolomonstrides:
Are you from Benin? Because I am . we are discussing one thing( the origin of oduduwa) you are jumping from one topic to another. Who is talking about the ogiso dynasty. We are asking a simple question you are jumping to another topic to avoid the initial subject. I will not stay here and begin to explain the Bini origin from ogiso to the oba era. If you are educated enough go and read. And stop giving us unverifiable sources. If you state a source tell the person to go and confirm. you are not talking to a zombie you know. When we are talking like intellectuals, give responses like an intellectual.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oduduwa

ok here's your source,

xolomonstrides:
Am sorry we got to this point. I just dug Dipper and discovered that you have had the same discussion with one orikinla in 2014 here on nairaland. So I would just be wasting my time. If you refused to study then I dont think you would now. If you would say Wikipedia is rubbish( from your actions) then let it continue to be rubbish to you. Those who value knowledge would throw sentiment away and seek it.

Where did I say wikipedia is rubbish? damn! Abeg if you cannot read and understand carry your lack of comprehension and leave my mentions

xolomonstrides:
Well I am learned, and that is why I said read different versions, apply common sense then choose the one you want to believe.
Now the topic is not about the Yoruba but the bini people. The history we are discussing is not the history of Yoruba but of the Bini people. The story of oduduwa only came up because he is common to the two tribes. I am open to new knowledge. So I ask again name your own source of information. This would help us learn more. As for me I say, reasonable people know how to filter internet information. I can deduce from your write up that you are one. So State your source. If you have no verifiable one, then I recommend mine( google, Wikipedia and common sense)

I've already cited Eluyemi and the mentioned the Ooni coronation rites. I don't know what source you are looking for again

The coronation rites in bini have nothing to do with the Ogiso or Ekaladerhan...ask yourself why? if the oba of Benin is of the same line

Olu317:
You are Absolutely correct .It was Obatala's supporters (Ugbo) who who were rebellious because Obalufon's mother wasn't from a Royal House. A lot of Yoruba people are too comfortable with Yoruba as even being from ILE IFE because we are lazy and the bunch of scholars we have don't dig into anything but uses sentiment to write stories about our history that are contradicting. Take for instance, the myth of Oduduwa as being credited with power of creation, when in fact he was a mortal man,who lead and die at ILE IFE. Although, in my finding, I have come across facts that truly point to the fact that Yoruba are from Israel. Ranging from Yoruba names, culture, monotheism of Supreme God, even the name of ONI is from Israel. There even a time Yoruba were called “USEREMAGBO". But someone was countering it. All I know is that my research is unraveling some mysteries about Yoruba people What is even more annoying is that it is white researchers that are dedicated to knowing who Yoruba true identity is. And it behoves them seeing all the cultural affinity with Israel in our tradition. It is more pronounced in Yoruba tradition than anywhere in the world. Take for instance, the worship of Seven divine kings skull of Israel. It is being worshiped at ILE IFE under the name of Obatala.Can you imagine? and here we have Yoruba scholars still using most of the write up of Late Rev. Johnson whose original copy of his book on the history of Yoruba was burnt by the Methodist Church of England because of what they found in it as probably Israeli's identity. I hope more Yoruba historians will dim it fit to travel to places and investigate more about our history.

you stopped making sense where you mentioned Israel.

there's no evidence of Yoruba connection to Israel or semetic culture in general

xolomonstrides:
Your source or you dey there when dem born am. Every sane person knows that google is a body of knowledge. Where else do you want me to get information from. Make I travel back In time. Another thing do the people of ido-osun have it in their history that he came from there? Just asking while I verify your claim using the same Google and Wikipedia. Quiet ironic.... Peace

i didnt say google or wikipedia is not good. however you would be fooling yourself to believe every article u find on the internet. that is basically not the best place to learn yoruba history

dytbabe:
Hi

Please I need Oriki ooo

Gongon in Ondo town

I only know oriki of Ibadan and my hometown

xolomonstrides:
So ora hill is where he was manufactured? Except you want to tell me he is no human. Google "oduduwa Bini version" then compare with the Yoruba version then apply common sense. Then choose which one to believe.

manufactured biti bawo? ahah, take it easy.

do not let random online articles u are directed to by google be ur teacher.. seek reliable sources


oduduwa is from ok-ora...in today's Ido-Osun town, at the outskirts of Ile-ife

Olu317:
...The writer is just not very conversant with the truth or economical. There is no where in Yoruba land that will ignore the strength of OYO EMPIRE. In fact, OYO Yoruba were made up of all Yoruba sub grouping in the ancient time because it was the seat of economic boom and military might, which fought against every foreigners that attempted to attack Yoruba Race from the Northern part. And lastly, ILE IFE is the ancestral home of all Yoruba descendants. And it was the place where ORANMIYAN died and buried After, he came back from OYO ILE,which was then closer to ILORIN. As you had rightly said, It was Obalufon that his mother was a slave but direct lineage of ODUDUWA. And when Oranmiyan can from expedition, after he made AJAKA, king of OYO ILE, he challenged, his half elder brother and Oranmiyan as being described as a mighty warrior, was feared by his brother and his half brother, relinquish the crown and position for him. Be as it may, till date and forever, Obalufon is/will be the second in command to Oni IFE. In the ancient time, they don't joke with the truth and spiritualism as we do nowadays as IFA was the path to their light. unlike now, that some of call the name of JESUS(I,included) and Allah. He who don't know or understand the intricacy of Yoruba history will just find it hard to comprehend. There are so many hidden things from ordinary people like you and I except it is the appointed time.

Yes, it was Obalufon...either his name was Orunto or his mother was.

Although I think Obalufon was already made to relinquish the throne during the uprising of the Obatala suppoters(Ugbo) under Obamakin

so true @bold....so much is hidden, and our people are too lazy to seek the truth

gypsey:
thanks for all the insults shows how sad your life is, anyway just because some things was done in ignorance, in your own words, the same word (ignorant)which you accused of using, should people then carry on with that tradition of ignorance? When will it stop?

I don't see it as insult but honest description of you from the comments you post. it's only a moronic african not to mention a bastard that will say the things you say.

your European masters were eating real human flesh 300 years ago. answer to that and stop talking about calabar people killing twins in the past... .. in fact what's worse is that, you tag the killing of twins to all Nigerian ethnicities
shows how ignorant of Nigeria you are

gypsey:
perhaps you should not be using your laptop and smartphones because white men made it, and oh! Stop speaking and writing in the white man's language too.

go back and live in the forest nakid and continue your so called tradition of killing tween and triplets babies, or killing virgin girls for sarcrifice .

this one has a fried brain. oh africa! the dying continent.

gypsey:
true! Perhaps they should also give up their iphones and laptops which i believe they are typing this nonesense from, and go back and live nakid in the forest. In the name of tradition

another idiota who thinks yoruba tradition is about living in forests roaming naked

gypsey:
it boggles the mind! I guess they are in support because it may not be their family members who could be sarcrified. Archaic, ignorant and backward fools, same way nigerians were killing tweens babies those days in the name of ritual. These days every nigerian is praying to have tween babies.

fela, chinua achebe, Soyinka are all archaic, ignorant, backward fools? is your father as intelligent or exposed as any of these men?
iidiots like you will never use your head, slave mentality has drained your brain. so quick to believe every bad report about your people. ..you are the ignorant one here, to think Yoruba coronation is about killing people... Iidiots like you don't know their history. ..you probably don't even know a thing about your great grandfather, but will tell the history of arabs and Jews like it's your business

here's a dunce calling people ignorant, calabar people killed twins out of lack of understanding of the biology behind it and the belief ( probably through experience) of having one twin turning out bad in society. .they sought to protect the society by killing the twins since they didn't know which will turn bad. Chiefs also took advantage of the situation .. calabar not all Nigerians
the yoruba are known to revere twins, twins are sacred and venerated not killed in Yoruba traditions

300 years ago europeans were still dining on real human flesh, morons like you will never talk about that

LecciGucci:
lol u wana know d deal?
Shez my bae. dats d deal

and you no fit handle am ... she go dey abuse cucumber

or are you some kinda bobriskish person?

LecciGucci:
Shez free for life..
Therez nothin u can.do abt that
U can only accept things u cant change no other option

be like sey this babe dey help you somehow. what's the deal?

LecciGucci:
Shut up
Why not go and arrest her rather than wailing here.

I'm a little indisposed atm


but you know she's a criminal sha?

oboy3:
even the Yoruba students amongst were surprised,i agree it's not a Yoruba thing because we had other yoruba staffs we called Madam and they never took it personal

you see yourself na and you've already started attacking yorubas

Kgdavid:
Are you looking for attention? If not you would have been better able to channel what apparently few mental resources you have into realizing that the point of my post was to indicate exactly what you have said in the bolded, although you fail to realize the implication of it. Which is that the term "white" is a misnomer. The appropriate term is caucasian.

In my first line, i said the classification is arbitray, showing that of course i know what white is meant to refer to, but no, you a dunce and uneducated riff raff, rushed through without comprehending what i was driving at.

You are not even aware that addressing people by their "color" is frowned upon, yet you feel the need to aggressively insult the person who can enlighten you?

You cannot hold a candle to me in terms of anything so next time you see this moniker and you feel inclined to express yourself, do youreslf a favor and keep on steppin'!

Edit:

I just did a google search which shows that in societies such as the US, arabs are considered white.

"Under the U.S. Census definition and U.S. federal agency, individuals with ancestry from North Africa are considered white. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission regulations also explicitly define white as "original peoples of Europe, North Africa, or the Middle East."[51]
Most North Africans in the U.S. are of native North African origin, including Berbers, Copts, Arabs, Arab-Berbers and Egyptians. They are among the more numerous Arab American groups."

Please, please, and please...respect yourself

look at this iidiot, you want to hurl words? . after schooling him a little he got motivated to go do research. . at least you have taken time to learn a few things thanks to me for motivating you towards what your dull family and friends never impacted on you

unlike you (being a slowpoke and all)I don't need to run to Google ever so often as I encounter a new person. ..I know for a fact that arabs arent treated as white or nearly as ethnically "white" as Latinos who have their own recognized classification

the reason arabs don't have their own classification is due to their relative low numbers in the USA. ..
socially what Arab considers himself white?
Latinos are racially white yet in the USA they have their own class, if you weren't a complete dunce(ironic how you called me the dunce) you would have realized that Laws tend to not recognize certain groups due to their perceived insignificant numbers.. as it is, the numbers of people from the middle east migrating to the US is increasing, not long now the government will recognize and classify Them separately. ..the common people on the street and at daily activities already do


can you imagine this guy with a menial knowledge of anthropology and sociology acting all Buffy



P.S I really don't get why we are talking about arabs here . . you probably think Lebanese are your typical example of arabs
quickly now tell me Lebanese are arabs

LecciGucci:
If u dont know its a crime then go report to mtn and see if u will be atrested or not.
There data are ment to be paid for and u go through backdor and u still asking if its a crime.

just shut up oga. you got nothing to say.


chidinma okeke is a criminal that's the fact

Ubenedictus:
I have already explained that olokun is a benin word, benin is as philosophical as any other tribe though i do know what that has to do with d topic.

it seems u cant notice that as yoruba migrated they kept adding to their patheon, u've gat olokun a water deity, then yemoja, the osun for d osun river, osa,... and other water orisha, u guys kept making each water body u find a new orisha, d bini have just one river\sea ebo, it seem clear to me that u guys borrowed olokun and added it to ur ever increasing patheon.

smh. see why I often say you lack intelligence that you claim you will say I'm insulting.
how can yoruba adopt deities from non yoruba people when all the water deities are within Yorubaland and have different nature. migrating from where ? where are the people we adopted them from?
creeks, streams, lagoons, lakes, ocean are all different body of water..
a mark of a complete patheon by a highly thoughtful people