₦airaland Forum

mokaflex:
tomorrow she would call Rihanna a ritualist. sorry for her. this one no be my gentle daddy G .O wey keep you quite. obviously he knows your mental drugs are finished
This white people may not have her medical history!!!!
in other news just noticed I'm FTC. twice in quick succession.

and Rihanna is white people

VomeSchakleton:
Well it's something you got from the north to say the least.

same way yall try to confuse people that the name "yoruba" came from the north when it's truly from Songhai


just gerarrahia

VomeSchakleton:
This isn't a competition mate. But if it was, lol!

Your friends look like jesters with sunglasses.
And isn't it ironic how they are wearing a northern invention?

northern invention bi ti bawo?

quickly:
She is not custodian of Anglican faith .she is the queen of Anglo-Saxon and all.commonwealth.

The archbishop of Canterbury is defender of Anglican daith

ignorant mumu. . if you don't know something just shut up and learn


"Defender of the Faith" has been one of the subsidiary titles of the English and later British monarchs since it was granted on 11 October, 1521 by
Pope Leo X to King Henry VIII of
England .
in 1544, after the break of England from the Roman church, Parliament of England conferred the title " Defender of the Faith" on King Henry VIII and his successors, now the defenders of the Anglican faith

Surfboard:
This is very simple. To the custodian of yoruba tradition, the leader of the yoruba race, which comes first? His and culture, or a religion he received from the white man?

That should help you find your answer.

Culture is above any religion. . only a demented fool follows foreign religions that constantly attack the essence of his identity

easyfem:
She must b an ekiti gal coz na there crazy elite dey even there governor confirm it

another foolish ekiti hater

probably 40 hours uninterrupted...cus it has never reached 48hours straight

AjaanaOka:
Onitsha is not in the territory recognised as 'Western Igboland', and I haven't seen any classification that put them in that category.

then wat geographic category do they belong as Umuezechima?

NinaMiliano:
If its a taboo, den he shouldn't come to church.
He should reverend d King of Kings.
U don't come before God d Creator and still be forming Oba of a tribe.
Dia can't be 2 Obas in d church.
He can form Oba outside God's church. D church is d body of Christ.

you just made no sense. Before God the Creator? so this God d creator is so non omni present that he is only present in church?

quickly:
Which demons? Myopic fellow.

Even queen of England dey go church.

that is queen of England - defender of the Anglican faith


this here is ooni that should be the custodian of Yoruba culture and traditions.

OMAR12:
NRI is the spiritual father of northern Igbo land whose popularity went as far as Bini and igala, aro is the spiritual father and war chief of southern igbo. the middle is just both aro and nri coming together like we hear mbairi, mbaitoli, mbaise, mbano these are just the coming together or people that understood each other. my opinion

and I guess Obi of Onitsha is the head of the western igbos

dablazor:
Oh okay, if I catch your drift correctly, your insinuation implies that gods=ancestors=forefathers, and there is nothing supernatural about them, just tradition.

exactly! and to go further by addressing your use of the word "supernatural"; Nothing can exist beyond or above Nature. .so supernatural is simply fictional...I mean who doesn't like tales of the supernatural?

dablazor:
Am a proud African and I respect our traditions, and I regard the African gods(orisas) unlike the imported ones, not that I believe either actually exist.
But don't you feel this said understanding of nature like herbs for instance which you said were given to us by the gods, were actually knowledge gained via experiences by our ancestors and later passed down generations and not based on the divine intervention of the orisas(gods)? Aren't the gods just a representation of the supernatural (which is nonexistent) and most especially, tradition/culture?
I don't believe in the supernatural and gods.

lmao. I thought my post would confuse you a bit. . I was right


lemme say those ancestors that had the knowledge and shared it were the Gods themselves


Historically, at around say 500BC sub saharan africa probably didn't have shrines at all. .. even today some of the oldest african cultures don't have shrines dedicated to Gods eg. Baka, San, Gbaya people.. there are of course many more


hence this shrines and temples were more like schools learning the ways of the "Gods"

dalaman:
You forget that the babalawos or ritualist want money as well. It is an enterprise that they are running mostly for money. Forget the fiction you are used to watching in Nigerian movies. They just keep.promoting this ideas and make them look real and acceptable but they are fiction. Non of them has anything to do with reality. The ritualist will call names of prominent people and claim they helped them get rich and famous but it's all lies.

These ritualist function like all these prosperity pastors. They will tell you to sow seed and God will make you rich. Many people go to Sunday week in week out sowing seeds but their lot in life still remains the same. Even when progress comes it doesn't come it as a result of the sowing of seed but they attribute it to the sowing of seeds.

If you want lots of money it's either you work for it legally or illegally or you inherit it from someone, win a lottery or something. Killing your entire village because a ritualist tell you to do so will not make you rich.

White people do not believe in money rituals. They own all the wealth in the world today. We have nothing compared to them despite our money ritual claims.

look at how he's saying all this as if he knows what he's talking about

what babalawo do you know that has done money ritual?

dablazor:
You're getting this all wrong, about 65% of global atheist population were never for once in their life theist, so where does the disappointment, failure and frustration come in to play when they were never for once theistic?
I don't belief in god because there is no proof of his existence, its just a big whole universe, and religion doesn't cut it for me, that's why I seek knowledge anywhere I can find it.
Religion is just a lazy way out of the many things we don't know about our planet.
Many mysteries on our planet that the ancient men credited to a godly existence has been long discredited by science, and a lot more uncovering is going on, because you don't know how something happened, that doesn't give anyone a right to say a god did it, that's what our forefathers did, and that's why all religions and gods are manmade
You are a christian and you believe your god is the one true god, while disbelieving in over a thousand other gods that exist today, what makes yours the true god and others a counterfeit?
I hope you get my drift.
And as regards your paragraph above claiming atheists who aren't anti-theist are still in doubt about god's existence is a clear cut hogwash, because I decided to let sleeping dogs lie, that doesn't necessary mean I don't think your doctrines are quite comical, we are just tolerant, 'why i entertain the bullocks, that doesn't mean am in doubts or the thought of religions and your theist gods doesn't make me sick inside.
Some atheist and anti-theist theist converts might convert based on some petty reason like disappointments and frustrations, but not all converts are that petty.

what our forefathers believed is different from Christianity and Islam pls. there were people who devoted their lives to unraveling mysteries of the universe rather than just say "a god did it"
take yorubaland for instance. ..the people who made the most contribution to the understanding of a particular aspect of nature were in fact the "Gods" ie. Orisa
and I believe it is similar in other parts of sub Saharan africa

that is if you understand what I'm saying

Iszboy:
white men always inviting the wrath of God to earth.

Why would a growing kid not know about his creator

And some african countries will adopt this.

Much pity for the coming generation.

if the wrath of God means infrastructural development, less poverty, more employment, stable power supply, advanced technology. .. then africa needs the wrath of this God

Histrings08:
Too many stupid ideas coming from dis people dis days is appalling..

The idea of ur religion and ur god came from them

Project400:
The report (if it exists) was quoted out of context.



Taking kids to church is entirely different from forcing non-christians to partake in christian prayers in schools.


If teaching our kids about Adam & Eve is violation, what do we call the teachings of evolution and science? Both teachings were imported to a country like Nigeria. In fact, given our babies food to eat is violation., we shouldn't give a day old baby milk when he has the choice to select pounded yam and ewedu.

I just hope you have never claimed or will ever claim giving children facial marks of their sub ethnic group is a violation of their rights

Time2Smile:
Let me give it to you straight young man, You don't deserve her or anyone else, you don't deserve companionship or even love. In case you don't know, the feelings, emotion,love you have for her and enjoy and you fear losing were created by God as a mercy and blessing to mankind. It is the same God you deny. HOW DARE YOU? You want to enjoy the blessing of the one you don't acknowledge. Since you are self sufficient and in no need of God then you should not be in need of mere human. Some of your reasons for being atheist are just stupid and intractable. NONSENSE

if this God is so concerned about believing in him and using his products like feelings; why not he just kill all atheist?
the thing seems to be paining you more than ur god

daproflinks:
Oh so you have a conscience? Who put it there? Having a concience means you have a soul and that means you answerable to someone and that someone is your maker(God) let me ask you a question do animals have a conscience? Because they are not answerable to anyone that is why they are animals you to have a conscience means there is someone higher than you judging you 24/7.And that person created a variety of beings human being and animals .so please stop deceiving your conscience which you admit you have

you are such a doodie head. so you don't watch Anima documentary shows to tell you that some animals feel everything humans feel. just because your pastor never told you animals are as sentient as you are doesn't mean they aren't. .. very soon people like u won't eat if your pastor doesn't give the go ahead


yet, let's say (as I myself believe) that there's a conscious creator, what's to say that ur poo of a god called Jehovah(reading about him in the bible confirms this) is that creator?

horlumiday:
1.The Bible is the best selling book of all time
2.The Bible was written over a long period of time by various men(40)
3.The Bible is God's Word
4.The Bible predicted the rise and fall of empires centuries in advance.
5.The Bible is scientifically accurate
6The Bible is historically accurate.
7.The Bible has dramatically changed many lives including mine.

_____________________________________________________________________
Continue telling your self the Bible is fake..

and continue telling yourself the buypoo is not fake

you heard god say all those things right? or the buypoo just claims it is God's word and you sheepishly believe?
what scientific and historical accuracies does the buypoo contain?

mmsen:
Thailand is a monarchy and is mired in political chaos, has been for a few years now. Thailand is notoriously corrupt. People don't respect the monarchy in Thailand, they fear the monarchy because honest discourse about the head of state can lead to a prison term. Anyone found in possession of books critical of the monarchy faces three years in prison:
http://timesofsandiego.com/opinion/2015/09/10/american-thai-community-seeks-end-to-monarchys-influence/

There's absolutely nothing wrong about protecting the government.

As long as the government promotes national unity, security and there's considerable development or at least maintainance of the general standard of living of the citizens


I should also bring to notice that the problem people have with the Thai government is not the Monarchy but the current monarch's support of the Military rule. Most Thais still love their monarchy and there's nothing you can do to change that.... all this is revealed in the link you shared

The Monarch has been the person that holds the people together; without him, the people would be lost.

Corruption in Thailand:
http://time.com/3674200/thailand-tourism-police-corruption-shakedown-extortion/
http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/oct/21/thaksin-thailand-corruption

You see, here's one thing you do with a monarchy - blame it all on the king because he has influence(if not authority) over everything.
1. the police abuse power against tourists blame the King that doesn't Preside over police affairs
2. the head of the military government is corrupt blame the King that doesn't have the Authority to remove him... not like the Prime minister before Prayuth Chan-ocha was any better.

Monarchy indeed is about One man receiving all the complains

Brunei hasn't moved forward at all in the past 20 years and they are a monarchy with a small population and large oil reserves but you wouldn't know it if you were there. Where is the evidence of speed of thought an action here? A tiny country such as this should have surged past everyone, including/especially the democratic Singapore. The reality is than the reverse is true.

sure one country out of the many monarchies
If Brunei isn't doing well, is Denmark poverty striken? isn't Netherlands doing beautifully well? what about Norway? The UK is set to do things without the EU. .. that just means they are more confident about their System of government (with a monarchy) than the likes of Germany and France that don't have monarchies

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy with the largest known reserves of oil; the country has huge (yet depleting) financial reserves; is the seat of Islam drawing millions of tourists and billions of dollars from pilgrims. They have barely moved forward as a society since the discovery of their oil reserves and the monarchy has had to struggle to force through simple reforms, such as female's education. In 2016 Saudi women cannot leave their homes unless permitted by a male relative. Women cannot drive. And if you want to talk about corruption and waste you need look no further than the Saudi princes. Saudi also cracks down heavily on 'dissent':
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-saudi-monarchys-harsh-crackdown
Corruption in Saudi Arabia:
http://www.business-anti-corruption.com/country-profiles/middle-east-north-africa/saudi-arabia/snapshot.aspx
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/gulf/sa-corruption.htm

Bahrain isn't corrupt? Why were people protesting in 2011? Why were people being attacked by security forces? Because they love their system of government? Because they feel that their concerns are being listened to? Because the government is progressive?

The world knows Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are comfortable and developed Countries

Your democratic Nigeria is still struggling as an eternal "Developing" country

Northern Nigeria has emirs and yet it is one of the worst places in the world to live. Explain how monarchy has made that society better? Tell me how it has allowed that region to become more progressive? Where is the evidence of the speed of thought and decision making in northern Nigeria?

what poo is this?! northern Nigeria is not a monarchy

Where is the accountability in monarchies? Most claim to have divined their power from a deity, deities that they cannot prove exist. That in itself is a fraudulent claim so how does one build a system of honesty and integrity on a foundation of lies? If that isn't a trick then what is it?

Any leader can claim to be divinely empowered... given the destiny to rule etc

it is not exclusive to monarchies

infact anybody you subscribes to the philosophy of destiny believes a great leader is divinely empowered; doesn't matter if it's democracy or military or monarchy

it's only always so...in fact the only mandate in a theocracy. .. Monarchy is different from theocracy

There is nothing to stop them from abusing their power or misusing funds.

admittedly so, yet this doesn't out weigh the benefits


abuse of power and misuse of funds are recorded in all system of governance

Transparency is the answer to corruption, not opaque government. Monarchy is a throwback to a bygone era.

look at this one trying to move ahead of time? bygone era! were they not homo sapiens as you are? what nonsense bygone era. . so you just throw something that benefits you away because it has been around for a long time? so foolish!

Ubenedictus:
And to u oduduwa came from oke ora, for d next yoruba from d sky, or from mecca or sudan. u dont accuse them of lying wit d disdain u treat d binis, and who say ur opinion is even correct?

To say oduduwa came from the sky is not wrong. I cannot be feeding you things like this as if you are a baby. . if you are interested in the personality of oduduwa and the different ways that name as been used devote your time to study and not just read one Edoworld.com article and begin to claim nonsense


Mecca or sudan is complete nonsense. ..even more far off than the Bini claim. . this idea was propagated by ignorant Muslims seeking to validate their religion

mmsen:
Please tell me about these benefits of monarchy in the 21st century.

1. There is only one person that will decide, so the decisions are made quickly and there are fewer arguments regarding the new policies to be imposed.
2. Monarchy reduces the heavy amount of expenditures of the nation in the elections and campaigns as there is no need to elect the next ruler; Even in an Elective Monarchy like in Yorubaland
3. The masses have great respect to their king or queen as Head of State than an elected president as he/ she will rule for a term only. This promotes patriotism
4. Countries ruled by a monarch government have less corruption. Rulers know that their leadership is not for a term period, so they have no lust for money. They do not have the intentions to misuse their authority for corruption.
5. there is greater accountability and no blaming the "opposition". The Monarch is less distracted and the people not deceived by political tricks

this topic go sweet gan o

Ubenedictus:
now i can hear d hate in ur voice clearly, the sacasm does nthing to hide it. When discourse turn dis sour i say gudbye.

hate? ! listen I can never hate bini
many yorubas in fact see bini as just another distant yoruba subgroup...
In Ife bini kingdom is always prayed for as part of the Yoruba nation so where will my hate come from?


it's you I should be accusing of hatred, you don't like to accept the truth, somehow you(and seems majority of Bini people) are not satisfied with the achievements of bini in its history but want to use lies to claim other things that has no business with bini... imagine the well thought lie of oduduwa coming from bini


it is so disgusting


and now after being exposed for your lies you shamelessly say goodbye

SUNNYsparkle:
You have attempted woefully to disprove NRI and rewrite your own history. How come people left NRI for far away Ogwashi uku, today most of Delta North, speak a language very similar to those of Anambra and Enugu. What happened? If NRI people didn't travel that far, So also Edo never ventured into the eastern part of Nigeria as well. The fact remains that Igboid, Igala, Idomoid, Edoid, Ebira, Nupoid, Yoruboid were all members of one Family group, The Kwa language Family. It is believed that they spread out from the confluence of the Rivers Niger and Benue, probably around the present Ebira areas. Also a fact, is that both Igbo, Edo, Ebira, Igala, Idoma, Yoruba, Nupe etc. borrowed one others culture and also the culture of the ancient people they met at their present locations, The six groups interacted with each other and intermarried. There were migrations, cross migrations, counter migrations, wars, conquests, colonization, resistance, flights for safety, search for farm (ugbo/Igbo) etc. Also all the fairy tales and folklores about the origins of people as those of someone falling from sky and having 7sons as exemplified by Oduduwa and other funny stories are all lies

and nowhere in Yoruba itan about oduduwa is that told.

SUNNYsparkle:
Eweka is purely Benin word, nothing Yoruba in it. Eweka means Iweka in Igbo.

now you know more about eweka than even binis that say they corrupted it from "Owomika" meaning "I can handle it in" in Yoruba? even the situation that led to the name is still told by bini. .. but you just know better right?

Born2Breed:
Ooni was not one of Oduduwa's children.He was a priest(ABORE) of a shrine that became a ruler after.Alafin of Oyo was one of them.Alake is supposed to be called Alake of Ake not Alake of Egbaland.

Egbaland is made up of Agura, Owu,Oke-ona nd Ake.Politics made him to be so addressed.He oversees a Quarter in Egbaland.He seemed not to be versed in history.So is Ooni.

At d time Ooni held sway none of Oduduwa's children was in Ife.That is d reason he is appellated as AROLE ODUA.Oduduwa came from EDO(BENIN)

Is Ooni not supposed to be descended from Lajamisan last son of Oramiyan?
you probably can believe anything you read without verification sha...
Abore indeed, let's even discuss about that. ..isn't Obaship in yorubaland a political and mystic role? meaning an Oba is both a President of Traditional Rituals (hence a priest) and Head of State

Arole actually means heir. ..what are you saying please?

you were the one that gave him map to find his way from Edo abi
read up Oke-Ora

janefarms2015:
Macof, how u dey? I no dey fight u oooo, but pls dont insult anybody bcs of politics, most of these people are deceiving us, lets pray for our progress my brother, I hate partisan politics

lmao im doing great!

I see, but you shouldn't have thrown a jab at Ekiti people for making their choice

Dannyset:
This is very obvious na. Even the blind can see it, except the mediocrity of the myopic wailers.

hmm this one that I can't see it. . does it mean I'm blind?

just curious tho; please give us 1 sector that has improved under buhari

VampireeM:
I dont judge atheists cause I believe he/she must ve a reason for being one.


I cant marry an atheist cause I believe in God and its important to me I marry someone who doesnt just believe in the existence of God but also God fearing because thats the foundation I want my family to be built on and also we get to encourage each other in our faith esp during travails.


I'm sorry about the loss of your brother and I know you feel cause I too ve felt and asked same questions BUT I remembered so many other things ve asked God for that he did even the ones I didnt ask and I knew that God is Mystery, faithful and his ways are not the ways of man. Maybe it was your brother's appointed time and according to christian doctrine each man has it own appointed time and would surely die.. Sometimes we dont need to ask questions, we just need to ve FAITH.


Even when Jesus was on earth there we still hungry and homeless people. To We God has given, we are expected to give and help those who are less privledged just like the Story of Lazarus and the Rich man from the bible. Its God's own way to create a balance amongst his creation IMO.

Christianity is surrounded by mysteries which the human mind cannot comprehend. I laugh when people become atheist just to get their questions answered funny enough they get confused the more.

Yes Christianity just like just about everything is surrounded by mysteries but the problem arise when Christianity encourages ignorance. ..wanting to leave things a mystery instead of seeking knowledge and understanding of things

this goes to show that Christianity has something to hide