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quote author=GardenOfGod post=104724735]
If you don't ask them why ask me.... Answer my question so that we move on

It’s difficult to answer your question when i don’t know what you believe.

For instance , did someone preach to you that Jesus was a healer?

Was that the “gospel “ you heard before your conversion?

Maybe someone preached to you that Jesus would make you rich.

The foundation must be known

Hope you understand

quote author=GardenOfGod post=104723380]
When you preach to someone to believe in Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior to be saved, do you ask him "but what exactly do you believe Jesus for?"
Do you?

Actually, I don’t ask them such question. I preach the gospel .

What do you preach sir?

quote author=GardenOfGod post=104722936]
Read my question again please

Trust me, i read all.

You believe Jesus with all of your heart.

I got that. But what exactly do you believe Jesus for?

quote author=GardenOfGod post=104721750]

I have a question please...
If I believe with all my heart the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, and am in my church very active in all activities BUT I have a girlfriend where we commit fornication.... Will I still make heaven because I have believed the Lord?

What did you believe?

quote author=AntiChristian post=104679485]

Your own na another case o

Even Antichristian can identify an heretical nutcase

quote author=AntiChristian post=104489276]Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir (From 2016)

Few days ago, I was traveling, got on the phone, gave some verses in the Bible and Qur'an. I alighted then a man swiftly walked up to me and the following conversation ensued ;

Man: Sorry sir
Me: Yes?
Man: this is the first time I am seeing a Muslim quote the Bible
Me: Eeyah, Actually, I was a Christian, now a Muslim.
Man: Ah, I have seen Muslims become Christians, I have never seen a Christian become Muslims
Me: eeyah, it is because you don't want to see sir. There are millions.
Man: but why did you change?
Me: As you can see, I am heading somewhere and we are in the public, I will give you my phone number so you can contact me (gives him the number)

Man: Thank you, which area are you heading to?
Me: I am walking down the road

Man: I am going the same way, I will stop at FCMB. could you please tell me why you reverted while we keep walking?
Me: Okay... I don't even know where to start. Well, for a start, the true mode of worship is lost in Christianity. In Matthew 26:39, The Bible says Jesus bowed to God, even Satan asked Jesus to bow to him in Matthew 4-8,meaning that Satan also knew what reverence is there to bow down in worship. In 2Kings 17:36, the Bible asks us to fear God alone and to Him alone should we bow in worship. Jesus never clapped , sing, jumped, wiggled, twisted while worshiping God rather he bowed. So, all modern forms of worship in Christianity today were not taught by Jesus neither did he went to church on Sunday in the Bible.

Man: But David clapped and sang to God.
Me: are you a Davido or a Christian? If you are a Christian, follow Jesus. I really wish there is time. You believe Jesus died for your sins, right?
Man: Yes
Me: Do you love Jesus?
Man: Of course, anyone who rejects Jesus shall perish.
Me: you really do love him?
Man: very very dearly.
Me: were you to be alive about 2000 years ago and Jesus was about to be crucified, and it is in your capacity to save him, would you save your darling Jesus or let him die?
Man : (Laughing), you this man ehn...
Me: You see, Jesus prayed to God to be saved from death if God wills, being exceedingly sorrowful in Matthew 26:39 while Hebrew 5:7 confirms that his prayer was heard attesting to Psalm 37 :28 which says God does not forsake his righteous proving to us that the one saying "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" in Matthew 27 :46 and Mark 15:34 couldn't have been Jesus since God doesn't forsake his righteous ones.

Man : You are just quoting verses upon verses
Me : are they not in your Bible?, I am giving you these verses so you can note them down then confirm them when you get your Bible. Can someone who wasn't sent to the world die for the world?
Man : I don't understand

Me : Jesus forbade his disciples from going to the house of the gentiles nor to the city of the Samaritans because HE WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL in Matthew 10:5-6, And having ignored a woman from Canaan seeking healing for her daughter, he said that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew 15:24, so Jesus couldn't have died for the sins of humanity.
Man: You don't understand. In the olden days, they do kill animals as atonement for their sins. Why are you no longer doing it today, it is because Jesus died for us.

Me: Haha, the Egyptians weren't making such sacrifice not even the Canaanites, no nation except Israel. Also note that, The supposed crucifixion of Jesus changed nothing in the tradition of Israel, he was crucified according to the Bible as a criminal not as an atonement for their sins. He was a common man, of no eminence amongst the Jews and he was hunted. That aside, In Ezekiel 18:20 and Deuteronomy 24:16, the Bible says The son shall not die for the sins of father and vice versa, everyone shall bear the consequences of their actions either righteousness or iniquity, so why should Jesus die for us?
Man: (stammering and trembling), are you now saying that the Bible is fake because I once saw a Muslim who said the Bible is fake.
Me: That Muslim does not know what he is saying
Man: Exactly.
Me: Perhaps he is confused as to which Bible he should choose as the word of God given that the Catholic Bible consists of 73 Books and the protestant Bible consists of 66 books not to mention the Jewish orthodox Bible and others. You know it could be much more confusing when you even realise that the protestant Bibles themselves do not agree. For instance, the NIV, RSV, NWT unceremoniously expunged sixteen verses from their own Bible which are present in the KJV. Check the NWT, you will find Romans 16 :23 and 25 but you won't find verse 24.
Even, the each Bible contradicts itself in contrast to the Qur'an which is sacrosanct not because it is above criticism but it is void of corruption, being incorruptible and has remained in its pure pristine purity for over a Millennium. So, the Muslim might be right. If he says the Bible is fake, give him the original.
Man: Well, I don't judge if one religion is good or bad, all I know is that everybody should practise what they want.
Me: But I didn't stop you for a conversation, you did. look, what is that?
Man: A car
Me: Why are you judging?
Man: I didn't.

Me: Fine. You see, pointing out what is wrong as wrong is not judging, it is just like calling a car a car.
Man: See, I know Many Muslims. Muslims believe in God, and they believe there is Allah and Allah is the slave of God.
Me: (talking amidst laughter) Please, what did you eat this morning? You must have eaten frozen rice (استغفرالله العظيم).
Allah means God in Arabic and Muhammad (SAW) is believed to be the Messenger of Allah (God). Just contact me since you now have my number.
Man: okay, thank you.
Me : You are welcome.
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If the disbelievers can't stand answering simple questions from Muslims who are mere mortals, questions that make them fret, stammer and tremble, how are they going to withstand being questioned by the creator of Heaven and earth? الله سبحان و تعالى
May we not go astray... Ameen

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

I’m wondering who’s more ignorant. The “man” or the “me”?

quote author=Kingsnairaland post=103797079]

Many people have noticed he does not know the spiritual aspect of the law
jnr2020: is probably not a Christian because all he preach is to fight Christians he is the only one without sin
Is it not funny he is holy... jnr2020: lacks understand of Bible this place you wrote down he won't read it he only knows Jesus statement let me tell you he doesn't believe other part of the Bible
Show him that God Righteousness is not about work he won't accept it even though those are the words of Jesus himself.... we all know him every one is avoiding his false doctrines... Let watch him peirce his soul as he continues to sin in his own life style

You’re right.

He’s an Abdul masquerading as a saint

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=104123583] Don't mind that confused soul. Someone who despises the gospel of Christ preaching an Antichrist gospel. It's now he remembers what Christ would do

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Maybe you should not tell us what the gospel of Christ is, and also the Antichrist “gospel“ using the Bible.

You’ll discover you’re more confused than confusion

quote author=bingbagbo post=104103338]
John 8:56-59

[56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
[57]Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
[58]Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
[59]Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

QUESTION 1:. WHERE DID ABRAHAM SEE JESUS?

QUESTION 2: WHY DID THE JEWS ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS AFTER HE TOLD THEM ABRAHAM SAW HIS DAYS?

THANK. YOU

Q1.Certainly on Mount Moriah when Isaac was to be offered as a sacrifice.

“But Isaac spoke to Abraham his father and said, “My father!” And he said, “Here I am, my son.” Then he said, “Look, the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?” And Abraham said, “My son, [b]God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt [/b]offering.” So the two of them went together.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:7-8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


Notice that he said God will provide Himself a lamb. That means God will make himself a Lamb that will take away the sin of the world.

This is the redemption story.

This is Christ as a redemptive sacrifice and not Isaac

This is when Abraham saw the day of Christ.

The day is the entire ministry of Jesus

His suffering and the glory that would be revealed after.

Q2 The Jews evidently understood the meaning of I AM.

They also knew I AM is only ascribed to God.

So Jesus is here telling them He’s God.

The Jews considered it blasphemous and so attempted to stone Him.

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=104065924]My First-Time Experience In A Living Faith Church

It also happened to be my last, as my first time experience wasn't one i would want to relive. To say i was disappointed would be an understatement, because I was expecting much more. I had just become born of the Spirit, not just saved, and I was seeking a church I could feel at home and become a part of, where I would be fed with the Words of the Spirit which I was used to.

But the word i heard was so uninspiring and depressing to my spirit, because It was more or less the words of the flesh not the Words of Spirit I was used to and brought up with. And since I was allergic to the words of the flesh, I just felt miserable and out of place during the course of the service.

It weighed heavily on my mind so much that at the end, being one of the new members who was asked to wait behind, i had to ask the coordinator some serious questions because i thought they were just preaching what people wanted to hear not what they needed to hear.

This was the headquarters church in Durumi, Abuja, in the year 2002, but if you saw the amount of people trouping into the church, you'd think that it's a good thing, but it's only when I got there, I got to know why, that it wasn't necessarily God or His Word drawing them to the church, but the things which appease their flesh which they were being fed with.

Hence when I see the sheer amount of people attending such churches, I no longer get moved, because people don't care about hearing the Word of God or the things they need to hear, but just give them what they want, and they would be falling over themselves.

Some of the members of the church have express similar concerns here in Nairaland, to show that this was not a personal thing, but what any spiritually sound person should notice.

I know that the leader of the church may not be diabolic as some other preachers, but if he truly be of God, he must needs address this issue to prove he really loves Jesus and cares about His sheep, because there's nothing that matters more to Jesus than the spiritual wellbeing of His sheep.

God bless.

You made your point, but must you state the name of the church?

If you noticed anything unedifying , why not go to your closet and pray that the eyes of their understanding be enlightened?

That they grow in wisdom and revelation of Christ.

Ask yourself, what would Jesus do?

There’s nothing like anti Christ gospel of grace.

It’s an oxymoron!

Jesus is grace personified

The opposite of grace is therefore works or religion

So then the anti christ doctrine is the doctrine of works.

Heretic teaching that says a man is made righteous by works, and that this righteousness is maintained by works , is what we should be seriously concerned about

This is unbelief

This is contrary to what the Bible teaches.

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

It was equally wrong for the man to have said fornication was not a sin , despite the Bible teaching that it is


“Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭6:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


Then I don’t even see any difference between you and the man to start with since you’re both heretic.

The man ought to have said sin is no longer imputed against man because of what Christ has done.

“But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall not impute sin.””
‭‭Romans‬ ‭4:5-8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


“then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.””
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Thus, sins still exist but no longer imputed.

Fornication is a sin.

So are adultery, lying, murder, wrath, and so on.

However, the greatest sin is that of unbelief.

Now, the fact that sin is no longer imputed doesn’t give the believer the license to go on a sinning spree.

We’re not saved by works but we’re saved unto good works.

“For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

We became born again to do good works but good works won’t maintain our salvation.

We have the nature of righteousness and so we live righteously.

We don’t live righteously to become righteous

Sins have consequences and they lead to death.

So our refusal to live carelessly in sin must be based on the right reasons.

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=100893016]A Nairalandw recently asked via a thread why today's Christians were not able to do greater works as Jesus said believers would do.

[s]My response was that greater works were coming...

The reason I said that was because I was one of those God was going to use to glorify Himself to that extent. And the reason that's going to happen was because i decided not to settle for spiritual mediocrity, but i'm proudly a spiritual perfectionist to the core! That is, I desire to be every single thing God deserves for me to be and nothing less because I can't afford to deprive Him of any glory which was due Him.

This has got me seeking more, striving more, desiring more, sacrificing more, etc., than most do these days for the sake of the Kingdom of God, and consequently this has made to me to be given more, which has distinguished me significantly.

When I first came to NL in late 2018, God used me to convert a well-known NL atheist in the first few months of my being here. And many NL Christians were jealous thinking it was a fluke or just a coincidence, unknown to them, It didn't just fall from the sky, but I had already paid the price and given God everything, even as much as the apostles gave to Him, so it was only inevitable that I would be distinguished from those who hadn't given God as much. That's why my life was able to bring God glory to that extent.

That illustrates the extent to which God could be glorified in our lives, when we do not settle for less, but to be all that He desires and deserves for us to be. Because at the time, such a development was unheard of in this forum. Even the NL atheists who were hitherto very confident of themselves, started feeling jittery because it was something they weren't used to.

I had overheard them bragging when it used to be the other way around, about how NL atheists were the ones converting NL Christians, so it seemed their beliefs and confidence had been hit hard as never before, that they didn't even know how to react. They just couldn't believe their eyes. Some even doubted and debunked it as false and a fabricated conversion, that they out of desperation went in search of the person, and told her that someone else trying to use her moniker to spread lies, until she confirmed it herself, then they knew that this wasn't just make belief but the reality.

The foundation of atheism in Nairaland was seriously rattled at the time, and only God knows how much effect that had here in Truth, and how many atheists and souls were also converted as a result, as the impression God gives me is that much more lives had been impacted positively and blessed by my efforts here in Nairaland than I was aware of. Yet at the time, my appointed time hadn't even come yet, so that was just a foretaste of things to come when that happened.

Last year, after God told me my time had come, things that proved impossible even then, have now become the norm, as souls were being saved more than it's ever been since I came, demons were being cast out, the oppressed and depressed were being delivered, lives were being transformed, even the faith of true believers were being strengthened, and this is not speaking of somewhere else but right here in NL.

And with God has revealed to me, this was only the beginning, because the extent to which God intends to use me is far above and beyond anything that already happening now.

If this was about me, I wouldn't be sharing this secret but would keep it to myself, but I'm sharing it because it's my greatest desire that God gets the kind of glory He deserves from as many men as possible, not just with me and the other few who've given Him as much.

So if you want to your life to bring God as much glory as my life, or the lives of the apostles, or better still, the life of Master Jesus had done, do not settle for anything less than spiritual perfection, and I assure you that it would only be a matter of time, as you'd eventually be able to achieve likewise.

But if you settle for any less, the Truth is that your life wouldn't be any more different from the lives of most Christians of today, which are not able to bring God much glory as the lives of those of us who do not settle for any less than spiritual perfection.
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God bless.

Show a little bit of humility Mr. Perfect

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=103748652]Why Did Jesus Tell The Woman Caught In The Act Of Adultery "Go And Sin No More"?

Let’s examine sin once again


“of sin, because they do not believe in Me;”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

From the above, Jesus defines sin

A man sins when he doesn’t believe in Jesus as the sacrifice for sin

Such a man is therefore called a sinner

That man that has been made righteousness by the blood of the Lamb can never be called a sinner again.

Why?

The Lamb of God took away the sin of the world


“She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.””
‭‭John‬ ‭8:11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The use of punctuation marks is very important in Bible interpretation.

Neither do I condemn you is separated from go and sin no more by the semicolon

You know the use of semicolon, don’t you?

Jesus is basically saying to the woman,

Because i do not condemn you, go and sin no more

That is, you’re forgiven of your sin because you’re without condemnation.

“So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:1‬ ‭NLT‬‬

By believing in Jesus, the woman is free from condemnation and so she can’t be called a sinner again.

God bless

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=103876133]When people have made up their mind to wallow in their ignorance, there's no point trying to bring them out of it because you'd be time wasting.

You’ll soon see that you’re actually the ignorant one. I was once like you.

Don’t sweat it buddy. Revelational knowledge is progressive.

It’s just a matter of time

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=103874453]You should instead be lamenting at the magnitude of your blindness to the Truth. You quoted a saying of Jesus that once again disproved of your Antichrist gospel of grace, yet you're too blind to see it because your heart is waxed gross.

Matthew 21:28-30 (KJV)

So what you call good news are actually lies and misinterpretations of the Truth.

But keep enjoying the lies you believe to be good news, since you've chosen to despise the Truth which is the only thing that could set you free.

The Truth is in me

The Truth is a person

The Truth abides in me forever

Have you not read?


“because of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:”
‭‭II John‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What part of forever do you not understand?

He that has been set free the Son of God is free indeed!

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=103874453]You should instead be lamenting at the magnitude of your blindness to the Truth. You quoted a saying of Jesus that once again disproved of your Antichrist gospel of grace, yet you're too blind to see it because your heart is waxed gross.

Matthew 21:28-30 (KJV)

But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.

So you couldn't see that it was the one that said "I will not", but later repented and did the will of the Father, not he that said "I go", but didn't do it as the likes of you that just call Jesus, 'Lord, Lord" but do not what He says, that did the Will of the Father.

Hence you didn't know that it's the second son who after saying "I will not", did the Father's Will that illustrated harlots and tax collectors, who believed and repented at the preaching of John the baptist, while the Pharisees who didn't believe John preaching, illustrated the first son who said "i go" but didn't go.

Matthew 21:32 (KJV)

I ask you, what is the will of the Father in this context?

quote author=jesusjnr2020 post=102062880]Matthew 19:16-19 (KJV)

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This is according to Christ's Gospel of Grace.

God bless.

Bros, you misunderstood Christ’s Gospel of grace by taking this scriptures out of context.

I want to believe that it was an oversight rather than you being mischievous.


Let’s reproduce the portion that was taken out.

“The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?” Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?” But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19:20-26‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

What good thing shall i do , that I may have eternal life......

This man wanted to do some good stuff so as to earn eternal life.

Like you, he thought eternal life could be obtained by works.

Like you, he was ignorant of the fact that eternal life can not be earned. It can only be received through faith in Christ’s complete work.

So you know what Jesus did ?

He gave him a set of rules

The man confidently claimed to have obeyed all the commandments not knowing that he was setting himself up for a sucker punch

Hold it!

There’s one commandment that you’ve not obeyed ( And if we all want to be honest, there’s just that one commandment that we’ve always failed to keep)

At least one

He went away sorrowful knowing he’ll not be able to keep that one commandment

Jesusjunior, what is that commandment that you have failed to keep.

Common on! Don’t tell me you’ve kept all.

Unless you’re Holy Spirit 2.0

Now the disciples asked a very important question

Unlike you, they suddenly realized how impossible it was to earn salvation through works.

The futility of trying to obey all commandments so as to please God.

But you know what?

God is only pleased in His son.

“With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.””

This has got to be one of the greatest statements in the Bible

What is impossible with men?

Salvation through works

What is possible through God?

Salvation through Christ

What men can not do through works, God has done through His beloved son.

Stop spreading the Antichrist message.

May your eyes be open to these things.

You’re blessed

quote author=jesusjnr1 post=101198593]So unless you keep God's Word, you can never become God's righteousness!

Nothing like inheritance there!

Keeping God’s word is good , but you fail to realize that God’s word is the message of salvation.

Thus, anyone that believes this gospel has kept His word!

quote author=jesusjnr1 post=101184678]Thank God I succeeded and made up for yesterday's lack of post of this series.

Two posts on righteousness in same day.

The first time since this series began.

To God be the

“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said to Him, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭21:31‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


This is an embarrassment to all the self- righteous folks out there who believe that God’s righteousness is earned by works. Jesus is telling you that even harlots will enter into His kingdom before you.

Ooh!

Ooh!!

Ooh!!!

Butterflies in my belly

This is too good to be true

This is the good news

quote author=zoedew post=103834821]Truly all mankind shall meet at the judgment seat of Christ to receive the reward for all done in the flesh i.e. while alive! Baba Adeboye smartly deployed scriptures. That is not to be as an approval of the ways of TB Joshua while alive. Whether TB Joshua was of God or not should soon be revealed now that he is no longer around to cover up what was previously unknown about him, SCOAN and the 5th Floor at SCOAN!
2 Corinthians 5:10
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”

Point of correction, all believers will meet at the judgement seat of Christ, not all mankind .

Thanks jiggaz for being steadfast and consistent in revealing God’s kindness and the riches of His grace through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Eventually, the people will see that God is light and there’s no single dot of darkness in Him.

You’re appreciated brother.

Yes, you’re right.The words of Jesus is enough for the unsaved

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103783325] Jesus was addressing a "Jewish" audience accustomed to the passover? Weren't all of Jesus Christ's teachings to the very same "Jewish" audience even prior to that date?

Is john 6 vs 47, which you lifted out-of -context earlier not to the same "Jewish" audience?

When Jesus Christ spoke to Nicodemus, a pharisee, in John 3, was it only the same "Jewish" audience?

As for the meaning of "this", clearly Jesus Christ said that in reference to the eating of His body and drinking of His blood as a part of the New Covenant, something that obviously He could never have suggested as addition to passover rituals as that would have been a sin against God Himself.

Or are you attempting here to accuse Jesus Christ of changing or adding commandments to God's Law, something that is clearly against God and Jesus Christ told you He did not come to do.

Just confess that you love drinking blood . Mr. Vampire

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103782165]They were gathered for the passover feast. Jesus Christ who lived according to the Old Covenant Law had to partake of the feast as required by God as part of the Old Covenant.

But if you opened your eyes, you would see that it was also during that gathering that Jesus Christ instituted a new command for His followers.

If you opened your brain you would realize that Jesus was not talking to you. When i say “you” ,I mean the church or Christians or whatever you may want to call it . Neither was He addressing your lineage.He was addressing a Jewish audience accustomed to a feast called the Passover . Therefore, when He said..... “Do this “, the logical question should have been, what does “this” imply?

In the context of the discussion it refers to the Passover.

Now we all know that the Passover is a Jewish feast. The church was never commanded to observe it.

Also, what did He mean to do it in remembrance of Him?

The “remembrance “ does not mean recollection. It means to observe the Passover with the revelation of His death, burial and resurrection.

Obviously, the Jews have been observing it religiously, not knowing its significance.

If you could open your brain further, you’d realize that all ordinances point to Christ.

The Passover prefigured His redemptive sacrifice

After Jesus’ resurrection, all ordinances must cease because He’s the reality.

At the appearance of light, every shadow disappears.

No man holds on tight to His wife’s picture when she is right next to him.

Understanding the Bible is a journey

You must learn that.

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103781480] ok.
Luke 22 vs 14 - 20 and John 15 vs 14.

“When the hour had come, He sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him. Then He said to them, “With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves; for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.” And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:14-20‬ ‭NKJV


Would you be so kind to remind us what the disciples were doing with Jesus here?

I mean ,what feast were they partaking in?

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103781101] You don't know that Jesus Christ even commanded that you do even this in remembrance of Him?

But you are quick to pretend you know better than Jesus Christ as far as what it takes to obtain eternal life that He is full of for us?

I asked you a simple question. I’m asking again.

Where did Jesus state that you should do communion in remembrance of Him?

Notice the emboldened “you”

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103780906] Communion or Eucharist.
The one and only ritual that Jesus Christ commands we do in remembrance of Him

Where did Jesus state that you should do communion in remembrance of Him?

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103780566] Wait a second.... so you are saying that reading "contextually" implies one read and pick the statement one desires from the conversation, and ignore the Truth in the rest?

The conversation recorded there runs from John 6 vs 25 - 58. And you suggest that rather than digest the entirety of the context, one instead pick out what is stayed in verse 47, and abandon the rest. Why does that logic make sense to you?

Eating Jesus body and drinking his blood is figurative? Um.... wiseguy, if you had bothered to read the entire of the context, you would have figured out what Jesus Christ meant there since there in John 6 vs 55, Jesus Christ gives you the hint that His body and blood are real food. And the real food is the bread and the wine you eat when you partake of the last supper when you eat the body and drink the blood of Jesus Christ.

Which last supper?

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103777959] So, you also don't believe Jesus Christ's teachings as given in John 6 vs 25 - 59?

You are in good company since some of His followers also abandoned Him when He revealed that teaching to them even there.

This is what you get when you don’t read your Bible contextually

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:47‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:54‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Read carefully the two verses above

He who believes has eternal life

He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life

Are you thinking?

Now compare the two verses

What do you see?

He that believes is the one that eats His flesh and drinks His blood.

Therefore, Eating of Jesus’ body and drinking His blood is a figurative expression.

It’s not literal

Many churches use that part of the scriptures for communion. Jesus is only using a figurative expression to describe those who believe in Him.

Hope this is clear?

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103777575] 1. What other criterion did Jesus Christ set for being born of Spirit in John 3 vs 1- 8 that Hitler did not meet?

2. The end result of Salvation is eternal life(grace) as you are told in John 3 vs 16- 21. And if you read on, Jesus Christ tells you in John 6 vs 47 - 58, the same Jesus Christ declares that anyone who believes and eats his body and drinks his blood have eternal life.

You mean you’ve been eating Jesus’ body ?

Seriously?

Who turned you into a cannibal?


Please stop doing drugs.

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103777196] According to Jesus Christ, those who are in His Kingdom are in His flock - under His Law! And in order to become a part of the Kingdom of God, one ought to believe and be saved from Death,gain eternal life(grace) in exchange through eating of communion, and one ought also to be born-again - be baptized and be born of Spirit.

According to History, Hitler met the base requirements set by Jesus Christ and so likely belonged to the flock that is the Kingdom of God. So if "Christian" is what it takes, then Hitler was a member of that team.

Baba Suwe, who told you that Hitler was born of the spirit?

Also, where was it written in the Bible that communion was a prerequisite for salvation?

quote author=Kobojunkie post=103776167] Hitler was a Christian. He ate communion, was baptized and believed in Jesus Christ too so he met all the criteria set for salvation and entering into the kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1- 21 - even if through the broad gate - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14.

This clown has come again.

Who is a Christian?

It is not the man that bears names like John, James, Peter or Abraham.

He’s not the man that attends Sunday service or midweek services.

He’s not the one that observes rituals like communion or water baptism

“So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

See?

The reality is Christ.

Not water baptism

Not communion

The Christian is the believer in Christ


“In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Once he believed, he was sealed with the Holy Spirit.

So the only proof that your brother Hitler was a Christian was to be sealed with the Holy Spirit.

So stop embarrassing yourself