₦airaland Forum

Yampotatocarrot:
No hating. When I saw d pix, first thing that came to my mind was WAOH. But 3000, Z t possible to have that much students in a school? (Just asking). Wish one of our S.E governors could do d same for our people (Chinua Achebe et all)

You're are asking a right question. This will pose an interesting challenge. First off how do you control human traffic in and out of school? What management structure do you have, how many principals and vice principals?

It's an ambitious yet very laudable project tho. It was well thought out and well designed. It has the trappings of what you will see in stand schools anywhere in developed countries - laboratories, Library, Sick-bay, and even a facility manager. The sports complex is also awesome.

starlily001:
Since the demise of the late Oba sijuwade and the choice of Ooni-elect Ogunwusi as his successor, ile ife has been a center of attraction due to the fierce battle that characterized the selection of the next Ooni.
However, unknown to most Nigerians, the emergence of ogunwusi as the new Ooni was mainly orchestrated and executed, not by the ife kingmakers of the Osoros, but by Asiwaju Bola ahmed Tinubu, governor Emeritus of lagos state and national leader of the all progressive congress, APC.

At first, Tinubu, who ignited his age long aspiration to install his close friend and business associate, prince Dipo Eludoyin(owner of ikeja city mall), as the next Ooni of ife but felt crushed when Eludoyin refused to be drawn into the race. When the pressure was too much, the prince left Nigeria to China.

It was at this juncture that Oba Saheed Elegushi, kusenla 111, stepped into the picture. It is pertinent ro add that Tinubu had single handedly installed the ikate monarch in 2010. he was the PA to Asiwaju tinubu. moreover, in 2003, tinubu installed Oba riliwan Aremu Akinolu as the Oba of lagos.
The ELITES gathered that Oba Elegushi sold the candidacy of prince ogunwusi to tinubu.
With persistency and pleading from Oba Elegushi, tinubu who wasn't enthusiastic in investing in ogunwusi caved in.
Even before he got the seal of approval from the lion of Bourdillon, Ogunwusi had showered and spoilt the ife kingmakers with both financial and material gift. Each of d kingmakers became proud owners of choice automobile (prado jeeps, 20 in number) and some became 20 million naira richer.

According to reliable sources, Asiwaju Tinubu simply instructed Aregbesola thus "Go and announce that friend of saheed Elegushi as the next Ooni of ife" It was a fiat order which Aregbesola dared not flout. But one which he surreptitiously carried out.

The elites gathered that Governor Aregbesola was expressly ordered by his leader tinubu to join him in London that Sunday night, he was also adviced to board the plane before the announcement was made. Aregbesola therefore instructed the secretary to the government of Osun state, Alhaji moshood Adeoti to make the announcement only after he had boarded the plane.

Culled from the ELITES

http://www.newspunch.org/top-secret-how-tinubu-solely-installed-prince-Adeyeye-Ogunwusi-as-the-new-ooni-of-Ife


It's a pity to know tradition too is not above corruption. As an ife native am pained that my culture is not as I thought it was. After all the mouth that they would swear for anybody who didn't follow the tradition, it was the kingmakers themselves who failed their oaths. They ended up not consulting the Oracle and just followed their greedy minds. Whoever the real king is out there, may God justify you. And to all reading this may your destinies not be corrupted or taken from you. AMEN.

Bros is it that you are just simply steeeewwwwpid or raving mad?

ODUBEZE:
Carry out a research or better still make the vacancy public! You will be amazed at the result.
And if after that you are not still convinced then it means that National
Identity Management Commission (NIMC) has failed!
The beauty of any organization is imparting positively on the next generation. So saying that they did not train someone or people who can take over from them over the years will be their greatest undoing.
These database keeping will still fall to the youth working under them. What do they know, With PMB paying Hugh amount of money to train his staff on the use of Internet in this current dispensation!
It is well!

What!!!

I must have overestimated the basis of this discussion with you...

dason4life:
retired Kachikwu?

You mean you did not know Kachikwu had retired from Mobil?

dason4life:
No body can fill the position except an experienced member of the organization.
Take a look at some workers who were sacked from the banking or oil sector, some weren't laid off
due to in-competencies you know, but they possess some experience too. Even if they have no idea of the job, an experienced staff from NIMC
can fill the position, making room for an unemployed youth (since his previous position will now be vacant).
It is totally wrong to bring in a retiree, except in the Force & specified mission which are always within short period.
Perhaps you thought i was making reference to those fresh-out-of-school graduates, who possess no work experience
let alone leadership skills.

1. The leadership of NIMC is very sensitive. It requires you to be an astute professional of repute and vast experience. Could you have made the argument when GEJ at the recommendation of Jim Ovia, brought Chris Onyema? Whre was this your "denial of youth" argument when PMB appointed a retired Kachikwu to head NNPC?
2. Yes, someone within the ranks could have been picked, but this is not a rule cast in stone. If the recommendations to the president did not consider someone within the ranks, then maybe, they are not ripe enough. At least the head of service to the FG Mrs. Oyo-Ita came from the ranks.......
3. Who told you it is totally wrong to bring a retiree? evidence abounds where various government have done so, besides if the said retiree has some specific unique skills and experience best suited for the job at hand, then he's best to be picked.
4. I did not think you were talking of fresh-grads alone. Your reference to out of job/blanket clamour for youths, without regards to the nature of the job in question is what I addressed
2.

mahyowah:
i dont even know the basis for appointment by this new govt. many questions are beginning to pop up.

Bros,

NIMC is a very sensitive organisation whose appointment cannot be political. NIMC is a body that houses one of the most sensitive aspects our national database i.e. identity and information security. There work is related and interfaces to virtually all segments of the society - BVN, National ID, INECS, Police and SSS, etc..........

and this is my grouse with baseless arguments. Is this an organisation that should be toyed with by putting people just to fill in the numbers or to compensate? Chris Onyeama was one of Jim Ovia's prodigies, an ex-ED at Zenith bank before he was recommended to Jonathan. The new man is an ex-ED of the same NIMC.

NIMC had to be "spring-cleaned" not too long ago, to rid the place of those who professionally do not meet the criteria, this involved laying off of staff and employment of professionals, many gotten from private sectors and overseas......

dason4life:
But we have experienced youth that are not retired, why not them?

Ok, let's make this practical. Mention of 5 these "experienced" youths, their profile and tell their fit for the job in context.

dason4life:
No I don't, I have never been to school before,
I don't even know how to make use of Google to get information that are unknown
to me.

Kindly tell me, what is NIMC?

You mean you went to school? interesting........

ODUBEZE:
It might not solve all but it will solve ONE.
In your opinion, 100-1 is it still the same?

Do you know what NIMC is? or better still tell me which country uses the position of the head a body as sensitive as that of Identity management to compensate jobless youths?

dason4life:
Read my post again, but this time slowly. If there is anybody that sensible around you (I wish you will be able to identify one), invite such to explain it to you.



FYI
If you still didn't get it, quote me again, if you are lucky, I'll spare a little time to explain to you . . . just
that it's a waste of time trying to make a fool see reasons in things that are obviously clear.

Regardless of your vitriol, your level of reasoning is reflected in your baseless point......

Do you know what NIMC is?

jice:
this guy has no confidence in the youth

Is the position of Director General of NIMC a job to "compensate" the jobless youths?

dason4life:
The rate at which retired old men are being awarded with paid-roles opportunities, positions and employment
instead of leaving them to their pension is something else.

The youths are jobless due to unemployment and the employed ones will be having their salaries slashed
very soon.

Not blaming anybody, just saying my own.


***200 million mumu***

So to solve the unemployment problem of the so called "jobless youth" is to employ one as Director General of NIMC? Abeg which drugs are you taking or should be taking?

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OMG!!!! you love him still.......

TonyeBarcanista:
The Death of a governorship candidate does not form basis for a cancelling of election. The argument of these men is invalide considering that the candidate has a running mate that is prepared in case of any eventualities(such as this). James Faleke will naturally step up while APC nominates a new Deputy.

Don't mind gullible folks. They just go only and take scanty statements from pseudo-lawyers or lawyers of no repute. Where in the constitution was it stated that the death of a candidate invalidates an election?

123gist:
[quote author =MadCow1]:




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Linda Ikeji on her Mind.. grin

1 Billion Naira House in Banana Island loading.. grin

niccur datz tosin olori supergal and she's also a pro blogger just like Linda so watch it[/quote]Tosin a.k.a Olori super girl is one of the richest bloggers in the country. She is well known beyond the shores of Nigeria. I think she's an ambassador for Arik Air.......no wonder the FG can seek her out for this event

@MadCow1 see your life? the babe is climbing heights, while you're trolling here

bakila:
Ameachi has a suit challenging the appearance of Omehia's name on the ballot. His name was already on Form EC4b(ii) the foundation of EC8e. The EC8e has Omehia's name Pendente lite Ameachi's case that INEC should not recognize anyone as PDP's candidate for Governorship. The rest is history, Ameachi moved from that bold act to another one when he could not stomach's PDP's impunity anymore. He lead to the ouster of another President that wants to mess up with his mandate again.

Bros,

at the risk of not wanting to pick bits and pieces, I am still of the opinion that the premise on which Amaechi won still suffices. The Supreme courts had declared that it is the parties that contests elections, hence in this case APC.

wordcat:
Whatever that is in the land belongs to the owner of the land therefore, this isn't stealing at all. The money was mistakenly credited to his account and he mistakenly withdrew the money thinking that it was his own.

....... and mistakenly he will be sent to prison

odovonnestor1:
In my opinion I think Party the party is the one that wins election. And the Running mate have to step in (if the running mate was registered by INEC). But then I dont know if this is captured in the constitution.

On the other hand, APC may have to choose between Taraba and Kogi, because should they twist the Kogi Election to go there way, what happend to Taraba governorship judgement. If the PDP Governor was sacked in Taraba for not being dully elected on party platform, PDP should produce another person. REMEBER "PARTY WINS ELECTION NOT INDIVIDUAL"

And should we go with that very logic, then any decampee must have his seat decleard vacant.

Remeber how Amechi came to become Governor, when Omehia was removed by court. Just the same as Taraba.


We must have a law that states those things clearly and Judges/Politicians should not be twisting things to favour them.

We cannot continue to run the country by selfish correct law interpretation by Judges.

My opinion though

Why will APC choose between Kogi and Taraba. You do not make sense here. In Taraba, PDP flouted the provisions of the law which APC smartly exploited to win in the tribunal. Taraba's primaries was declared non-existent in law, because it was a flagrant disobedience of the law to have gone to hold a primary in Abuja. Amaechi's primaries was recognised because it was held, Amaechi won, yet the national body of the PDP decided to substitute his name (a case of reckless impunity, which the law corrected)

Chinom:
Common sense tells me that the APC in Kogi will ever allow Faleke to take over. No body voted for him. People voted for Audu because of Audu and not for the appendage called Faleke. Despite what the legal implications may be, I cannot see the APC in Kogi backing Faleke to take over in case fresh elections are called.
This is a whole new scenario for us all. Keyamo is guessing like everyone else. INEC and the courts will decide what to do next. I think that INEC as the umpire here has an upper hand. INEC will first make a decision before anyone decides to go to court or not. My humble suggestion is that INEC should conduct a fresh election with a fresh candidate nominated by the APC. Faleke's joint ticket with Audu, died with Audu. The election was not concluded.

Fresh poll is the only sensible option.

The first part of your submission is your opinion and has no basis in Law. secondly, it will be illegal to conduct a fresh election based on Audu's death. Do you know on what basis the law allows a fresh election to be conducted?

bakila:
Sentiments is flying all over Keyamo's postulations. You last paragraph summerised the matter 75% percent. The other 25% is the possibility of an election, because the certificate of return of is issued based on a Form EC8e that has the name of the Governorship candidate not his running mate and his party. Faleke was not the Governorship candidate but the runing mate.
PDP will still not win Kogi anyday anytime= my hope and view.

......so the certificate of return handed over to Amaechi back then was based on whose name in the Form EC8e?

20pounds:
Everyone has his interpretation cos the situation poses a legal lacuna.

We should get some things clear;

1. Abubakar Audu, until his death was not a Governor-elect, but a candidate in an election.

2. The kogi gubernatorial elections is on-going and has not been concluded, even as I type this. There is no winner yet, until declared by INEC.

What I think will apply in this situation is:

The Courts will hold that independent candidacy is unknown to our laws and the vote for Audu is a vote for APC, but since the law did not envisage this situation, APC cannot nominate a fresh flagbearer as provided by S. 33 of the Electoral Act.

The courts will have to make a pronouncement that will serve as a guide and law in this instance. Either to;

1. Ask the running mate of the Flagbearer to continue with the ticket. Or;

2. Declare votes casted for the APC as wasted votes by virtue of their candidate's diqualification by death.

The erroneous belief by many that INEC will ask APC to nominate a fresh flagbearer is wrong and unknown to law, neither can INEC call for fresh elections because a candidate in an election died.


My opinion is that APC candidate has been diqualified by death and they do not have a candidate in the election. Though he has the highest number of votes until his death, he was still a candidate and the election has not been concluded. This is trite law.

Sir,

Your opinion is twisted to me. The Supreme court had already by the Amechi vs. Omehia/PDP declared that it is the parties that are voted and not candidates. So how do you come about your theory of disqualification by death? Can you show where it is either in Law or in the constitution?

oshyno:
Wada don win be dat. igala wey be like hausas. They only vote their own even if na dunde. And believe me they can pull 41k votes to overturn the Apc lead.

Faleke was imposed on Audu by Tinubu, and from the news that lagos was agog by Audu's demise, even APC igalans will teem up with wada to make sure Faleke doesn't rule them. Days ahead will be soo interesting.

Some of you lot just sit and type as if you're in dreamland or without any iota of basic reasoning, not to talk of outright falsehood. You can revel in your wish that you want Wada to win......but why don't you wait to get to Lagos one day in the future before you start spreading news about what never happened in Lagos. You just needlessly fan the embers of discord and ethnic hatred, the one of Igbos vs. Yoruba on NL never do you, you suddenly concoct a non-existent "APC-Igalans"....... must everything be about ethnic sentiments to you?

modath:
PDP folks are just hoping against hope..

If the death announcement had come before the announcement of a partial result, they would have had a reason to be hopeful..

A supplementary election is all that is in the offing, anyone believing what the lawyers sympathetic to PDP are positing is just living in delusion..

APC hs two choices, allow Faleke to go on & become the governor or choose from one of the guber primary contestants...

APC has only one choice cut out for them, i.e. submit the name of the would be deputy governor. All these nonsense people are postulating is simply hogwash.

porka:
They should have appointed her the minister of state instead. That one doesn't demand for too rigorous econometrics modeling, advanced knowledge of macro-economics and experience in financial engineering.

As a minister of state for finance, she would be in charge of FAAC and no one would beam any searchlight on her. Nenadi Usman first understudied Ngozi Okonji-Iweala before Obasanjo elevated her. She was able to garner enough boldness, but even at that, she basically focused on paying local contractors all through her tenure.

What The Economist said is not different from what a former VC of a southwest state university said on a national television not long ago.

By making her a substantive finance minister of Nigeria in 2015, Buhari is just setting the country up for serious economic disaster and international mockery. She just doesn't have the capacity to manage Nigeria's economy yet. It's like appointing an assistant lecturer as a vice chancellor of a university.

The professor said there would be a cabinet reshuffle soon. Let's hope they will remedy this serious anomaly.

1. Bros, you better slow down before you say too much blunders. "rigorous econometrics modeling, advanced knowledge of macro-economics and experience in financial engineering" are not duties of ministers. The ministry of Finance is filled with lots of top notch analysts that does all the crunching of numbers. Leaders are fed with results to enable them take decision and not they doing the rigorous modeling Besides Mrs. Adeosun had paid her dues for her to have been the Managing Director of a Chapel Hill Denham.
2. Who told you Nnedi Usman was understudying Ngozi Okonjo Iweala some of you lot just concoct rubbish!!!

NewNigeriaMind:

obayaya: :


This new schools is one of the examples of misplaced priorities and projects made for propaganda...

Ejigbo is a suburban at the boundary between Osun and Oyo. Ejigbo has more than 5 secondary schools most of which were built by the Baptists and Adventist.. These schools were built in the 60s with strong buildings which has been left to rot over time. These buildings need minor rehabilitation which as little as 10 million can accomplish.

Which is wiser? Building a brand new school at the cost of over 400 million for 1 or using the same to rehabilitate over 20 schools?

There in lies the foolishness of Aregbe and his schools.. The new schools account for less than 5 percent of all the schools in Osun state. When the money used in building that 5 percent can effectively rehabilitate close to 80 percent of the schools in Osun.

Ok, are you from osun state? Secondly, is no renovation going on in the old schools? Third, if the old schools are from the sixties, should osun build some new schools.

Cause what I see here is a warped logic

@Obayaya,

In addition to NewNigeriaMind's submission, let me add a few things

1. I would have thought you will post the picture of those schools in ejigbo, built in the 60s and let us compare the suitability of the school to today's minimum requirements
2. Are you says government should not build new schools?
3. If you had been duly informed, each of the new schools will house 900 students (30 classes x 30 students each). Is this not a cost effect way of making more students accessible to state of the art educational facilities than some old relic built in the 60s?
4. Who told you the objective is about saving cost? The objective is about radically improving the educational standard in Osun

At times some of you lot need to assess the lack of wisdom in your arguments........

NewNigeriaMind:

GreenWhiteGreen: :
You resulted to insult when you have nothing sensible to say. Empty head like ur godfather. Another fact is that no Nigerian bank is willing to borrow Aregbesola money at moment. Apc is a curse to Osun citizens. I remember bisi akande under AD also sacked alot of workers which resulted into many death now Aregbe is still owning several months. Karma will begin even in your lifetime.

I believe a governor performance shouldn't be measured by salary payment to half productive civil servants.

The governor has set his priority on infrastructure, I am from osun and I am happy about it.

Don't cry more than the bereaved.

@NewNigeriaMind,

I like your replies. Unfortunately with opinions from people like @GreenWhiteGreen, Osun needs prayers to be saved from his people. One of Aregbe's most ambitious project the the express way that starts from Osogbo park and goes to terminate at the Offa border. This road will redefine the future of commerce in Osun. This I tried to sell to my nephews and nieces, but alas I was shocked with their reaction and perceptions. To them Aregbe's sins apart from salary, is that he favours "Lagos-based-Osun-Indigenes" and he took away projects that local government staff does to make money and gave it to his friends. They were not even interested in future potential of the state, they kept telling me Osun is a civil-servant-state. I told them any state that brands itself a civil-servant-state will be a useless and undeveloped state. I told them that one day the "rent" structure where state gets free money from Abuja may be over and many of these so called civil servants risk being in the labour markets. Fast foward 6months later, the oil price crash and it's ripple effects set in...........

We well meaning Osun folks should not worry easterners with unsavory comments. It does not take anything away from the progress of the state. Very soon you'll hear of commercial ventures in Osun state like Shopping malls etc. with Fayemi as minister of Solid Minerals, the gold deposits in Ilesa will become a viable exchange tool to rapidly boost the economy of Osun. The infrastructure Aregbe is currently accelerating it's progress, despite its riskiness, will then serve as a competitive advantage as cost of moving goods in and out of Osun will be very competitive.

NewNigeriaMind:
[quote author= ubecharles]:
So we should expect quality products from the schools? Nada, Anambra with their manageable school buildings would ALWAYS produce better students

The constant thing in life is change, I am happy for anambra, but why bring that topic on an osun thread.

Hate is a disease you know right.[/quote]@ NewNigeriaMind, this is the most wise and humble retort to a sssstuuupid submission from @ubecharles. May your wisdom continue to grow........

smuth:
Don't defend what you are not sure about...the line 'an official.....condition of anonymity' is use by ALL print media in Nigeria, that is not a valid reason to claim the news is fake.

...used by all media, when on the scale of balance, people in authority that said otherwise had their names published? This is simply a spurius claim to distort the truth. The incontrovertible fact is that the project was initiated and concluded by GEJ administration and Mr. Obaro told PMB that in his letter. That is not "anonymity"

Trent online is not a credible source. These are sponsored online sites with questionable news. The bolded part is a classic way to twist news
Check the facts - The MD of SystemSpecs, and CBN governor confirmed that the contract was signed with GEJ's government

smuth:
Indications have emerged debunking recent media reports that former President Goodluck Jonathan was responsible for signing the contract with SystemSpecs, the owners of Remita software, which is currently being used for the implementation of President Muhammadu Buhari’s proposed Treasury Single Account (TSA)

The media reports comes on the heels of revelations that at least N25 billion have been paid to SystemSpecs, amounting to 1% of all monies remitted to the TSA.

According to investigations by the Hope For Nigeria group, Mallam Umar Sani, the former Senior Special Adviser to former Vice President Namadi Sambo availed that the immediate past government never signed any agreement with SystemSpec.

He said: “The government as at that time began the implementation of TSA through the Government Integrated Financial Management Information System (GIFMIS), a World Bank assisted Project domiciled in the Office of the Accountant General of the Federation and it is through GIFMIS that all government Budget (Personnel, Overhead, Capital, Transfers etc) transactions are carried out, so why do they need Remitta?

“I can categorically tell you that it is the new Accountant General, Mallam Ahmed Idris, that put forward the Remitta proposal, but some other Directors led by the Director, Funds (Dikwa) vehemently opposed it on the grounds that government cannot have more than one payment platform and instead of using Remita to implement TSA, GIFMIS should be used”.

Also speaking on the issue, an official at the Federal Ministry of Finance who spoke on the condition of anonymity said that the “outrageous” agreement with SystemSpec on the use of REMITA software as a payment platform has nothing to do former President Goodluck Jonathan, as they did not sign any agreement.

Also speaking to the group on Friday, November 13, 2015, [b]an official of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) [/b]availed that the apex bank has its own bespoke software for e-Payments and e-Collections, adding that there is no need for the use of REMITA.

Source: http://www.thetrentonline.com/buharis-accountant-general-signed-tsa-agreement-with-remita-not-jonathan-report/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

krall69:
What makes him a pervert? He is just searching for love. Please dont hurt his feelings.

My tots exactly. From your story, at least he has the decency to toast you. If he's not making it contingent on your passing, then weigh the options on the merit. If you have no feeling for him, simply tell him so.

smuth:
[size=14pt]Last time I checked this discussion is about why the government should spend a huge amount of money as commission when they can spend less of that amount in purchasing a similar Software. So, let me ask you, do you support the government to continue paying commission for eternity or they should just buy one?[/size]

1. Why should the government spend such a huge amount of money is a complicated question but worth answering. The government was indeed spending way much more before the advent of TSA. PMB's government had written to Systemspecs that considering the extension the scope of the project, they called first for a return of all monies collected and for a downward review

2. Recall that GEJ signed the contract, which in itself is not bad. What the GEJ government did not forsee was that a contract of this nature had an expanded scope.

3. Saying Remita software can be purchased for 5k at computer village, gives you away as very naive. I can understand you probably do not know about softwares and nature of software contracts. Remita is not a software on CD/DVD. It is a solution hosted on SystemSpecs platform and offered to the world as service. So your question of if government should just "buy" the Remita is most absurd

Standing5:
i have problem with the logic of the bold part. The money being transfer is electronic and therefore shouldn't attract any special cost based on the amount being transferred. It is suppose to be a fee and not a commission-styled reward. If it was physical money then it can, attract a commission because of extra cost involve in moving more money accross.

Bros,

The business model is Software/Solution-as-a-service. Check everywhere in the world, moneygram, western union, etc they all charge as a percentage of transaction++