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What do we want from the govt, wheather we like it or not Govt must keep spending money. Printing new notes is not a bad idea as a lot of us are always irritated when we see old notes or find it difficult to have change and have to quarrel with bus conductors and taxi drivers when there is no change, I am sure a lot of us has not noticed how the lower denomination seems to be everywhere any time i enter a bus I am pleasantly surprised when a conductor would gladly give 3 N50 naira notes as change. Those talking of priorities must take into cognicance that because a task is num 10 on a list it must be done after task num 1. Let me explain; for instance priority num 1 is build a power plant and num 2 is build a refinery and priority num 10 is printing a new N50 note for the independence anniversary. The power plant can not be completed in 6weeks or 6months and the refinery also would have to be designed on paper maybe after taking a location and then identifying the source of the funds to complete the project but in printing new notes we have been printing notes already so all you have to do is go to the account being used to print money and allocate the necessary funds then give a directive to the printers and Oct 1st new N50 notes are ready, even though it is number 10 on the priority list. Nigerians there is no where in the world where the RICH will be imPOVERished or where the POOR would be enRICHed, all over the world the RICH will always be enRICHed while the POOR would always feel imPOVERished, so the decision is yours to make do you see your self as a RICH getting RICHER or as a man in POVERTY getting IMPOVERISHED. Happy 50th anniversary Nigeria I wish you GOODLUCK as you move into the future. GOODLUCK NIGERIA!!! |
El rufai sure said his piece and it is only an advice. Candidly people like Buhari and IBB should nhave become statesmen by now, Buhari should have accepted the fact that he would never rule this country again and instead of disgracing himself he should mentor the youth and use his resources both financial and otherwise to project candidates like Ribadu for elective offices. Imagine Buhari instead of Obj or Ibb as the Godfather of the ruling party in Nigeria a lot of things would have been done differently. I must confess El rufai hit these men below the belt by the statement that they wld thinki that blackberry is a fruit. |
ALMUSTAQIM:If this is really true why did Atiku think he could run for president in 2007 or even in 2003 as it was agreed then that the NW would take over from SW, it only shows that your position and insinuation is not only false but misleading. Even at that was anybody barred at anytime not to contest because of the zoning issue. Jonathans position is the only plausible and clearly understandable concept of the zoning. We first win the elections then check that no region is excluded in the power arrangement. That is simple and if you are sure of winning come out and contest, at the NEC we would consider issues as they arise, in the interest of peace and national unity should we not allow a Niger Deltan become president for the first time in 50yrs of nationhood now that we have a credible and popular candidate which would make it easy to sweep the polls once again in 2011 and dont forget PDP has an ambition to control the central power for the next 60yrs. Zoning according to the Governor of Niger State is a political strategy of the party and not a political right of any group or region. If the Igbos want to be president they should build up a consensus candidate who would have national appeal and who would be able to play the Nigerian politics and not any sectional or sentimental politics. The office of the president is too sensitive to be given on sentiments |
The poster only wants to know how we feel wen we c d poster of saraki that's all and he told us how he felt. For me I see his poster and just say 2 myself here is anoda loser who tinks he can steal his way thru dis forum. Kola u can simply tell us how u feel seeing the advert and rasputin don't argue or bother urself, u hav brot up dis post mayb to deride this guy which 2 me is ok but b careful arguin wit kola or any of sarakis agent on dis forum else u wld end up increasing his popularity the less we talk of him d beta 4 us and worse 4 him. I hav said my piece no mata wat kola or anyone says he won't get any response frm me because all I kno is VOTE 4 FRESH AIR, VOTE GEJ and voting wisely is voting Goodluck Ebele Jonathan 4 president!!!! |
Did IBB actually conduct a free and fair elections or Nigerians been tired of him conducted themselves in a manner to ensure that he has no excuse but to leave us with a democracy? I think its time we all say the truth, Free and fair elections are not conducted by the president but by the people in the way and manner they conduct themselves during elections. |
[quote author=na_so link=topic=517842.msg6801219#msg6801219 date=1285167717]You seem not to understand that ribadu's biggest fan base at the moment is SW. Except if he rides on Buhari's popularity in the to north west, I must submit that he might not be popular enough to pick a senatorial from the north.[/quote]Na so, If Ribadu can not deliver his senatorial district how can he then win the presidency. That is the politics I am talking about, he should use Buhari's popularity to secure his seat at the senate and then use the senate as a launching pad for his presidential ambitions |
From this thread so far I have seen once again that Buhari is indeed a democrat and not a tribal bigot as a lot of people want us to believe. This is deduced from "I read very interesting interview in which Edwin Clark said he attended more ACF meetings than Adamu Ciroma, and [b]he was right [/b]because I, for example was part of ACF from March 8, 2000 – that was when it started – and I have never seen Adamu Ciroma; in any case he was one of those opposing ACF because he saw ACF as an organ that was challenging the brutality of Obasanjo on the people of the North, and Adamu Ciroma was opposed to that and he made all efforts to destroy the organisation along with the rest. And so when Edwin Clark said so, he is right because there was fraternity between the ACF and the South-South. What I am saying is: I am surprised that, suddenly, Adamu Ciroma has regained his voice. Now to the topic,I will state here without fear or favor that this is indeed a wrong time to field Ribadu for president. No sane country that is interested in genuine development would allow anybody to start his political career as a president. This Ribadu scenario brings Adams Oshiomoles scenario in 2007 to mind, was there anyone as popular with the masses as Adams was in the run up to the 2007 elections, the answer is NO!! but he understood politics and went to his state, Edo and contested to be gov, won the elections but was rigged out and he finally got the seat after court battles. My candid advice to Ribadu is to join the CPC, work with Buhari, pick a senatorial ticket for himself, deliver his senatorial district to CPC, even though Buhari would go ahead and lose the elections Ribadu would have achieved two things, he would be associated with a former leader who hates graft, and would become a senator who would be our voice for anticorruption in the senate. Ribadu can insist on being a member of the ethics or anticorruption commitee or any committee in charge of the anti corruption agencies, then when we have Haliburton and other scandals he would speak as a senator and supervise the Waziris of that time and be seen to be fighting corruption from within the senate chambers. By 2015, the southerners would want the presidency again, but by then Ribadu would have cut his teeth in the Nigerian politics and would be able to stand as the northerner to deny the southerners the presidency in 2015, by then we the masses and general electorate would hold the ACE and decide based on his report card from the Senate if he should be president or Fashola or Oshiomole or Duke and by then Buhari would have now seen a perfect stooge whom he can campaign for and rely on to do the right thing, but first he must have proven that he could not be corrupted by the corruption in the National assembly. All Ribadu fans pls note that Ribadus ability to become president depends on the ability of Jonathan to become president, our problem in this country goes way beyond corruption it is more about the way politics is being played, this Yaradua changed in his style of leadership, this was what Jonathan understood when he played the politics of Yaraduas sickness so Ribadu should understand and advice himself. |
Reading the sppech aloud brings tears to my eyes. Quote; I discovered that by insisting that the right things be done, we could begin a turnaround in our power sector by involving the private sector in power generation and distribution. As you can see from the lower quantities of diesel that you are buying today, power generation has significantly improved. That statement is deep, as a president the most important thing to do is insist that the right things be done. Yaradua always insisted but was not always around but now Jonathan insists and is around to ensure that it is done. Remember how Yaradua said if the law is wrong or bad we still have to go thru the due process of changing the law, but while we go about changing the law we must abide by it. Yaradua also said that the security agencies and anticorruption agencies are supposed to protect the majority law abiding citizens from the minority lawless citizens, but in Nigeria we seem to have a reverse where majority of Nigerians are in one way or the other in breach of the law. Goodlucks speech is a revolutionary piece, it takes the fight home, notice how he did not tell us about his place producing oil for the benefit of the nation, see respect for his former boss, respect for his opponents, no wild promises of 24hrs power supply before december 2011, but a loud proclamation that together we shall all fight for justice. |
Kobojunkie: Kobojunkie:kobo wat do u tink of urself? do u think by voting anoda party we would have said gudbye to all our problems as a nation. If we vote Ribadu would he continue with subsidy of petroleum products or not? and why? What will he as president do to check corruption in the legislature. how does he intend to solve the power situation is he going to continue wit the projects on ground or start afresh. You dont look down on others by casting aspersions, this is a forum for discussions and when you discuss you open ur mind tolearn dont come with a condescending approach. If Ribadu is serious abt leading this country he shld join a political party and play the politics from there first, secure his senatorial seat, perform outstandingly at the senate bring up bills that will revolutionise this countries, then we will march behind him to follow up on his revolutionary bills by then he would have matured to vie for presidency. I wish Nigeria Goodluck in 2011, |
adedayoone:the bolded section is the crux of d mata. We have a ministry of labour nd productivity that does not know its duties, its a big shame to nigeria. I have a said that free,fair and credible elections are not our problem but unemployment |
Fhemmmy:So should we vote for someone that is not sure of his plans yet when someone else is there with his 7point agenda, roadmap out of power failure, economic blue print. I think its obvious, Ribadu pls go to the senate!!! |
Sanusi lamido Sanusi has spoken like a patriot and has clearly shown how he stands in our present economy. he posited like i have always done that Buhari should mentor younger ones to achieve what he could not achieve, this he can do by taking Ribadu under his arms and give Ribadu his backing any day both financially and morally. I like the statement by SLS when he said he would give Buhari his vote for what it was worth not because of the man Buhari but for what he stood for. Buhari is a great leader that Nigerians have shown little appreciation for, how do we call him a religious bigot when in his tenure he actually reduced the number of islamic pilgrims. I need to know more about the Buhari era although the little i know of it has always endeared me to the man buhari. |
Beaf:Beaf please educate monkeyleg. Babaginda was the architect of fuel scarcity in this country when he could not by being forward thinking build more refineries, Abacha was the foundation engineer who ensured that we became importers of the worlds rejected fuel, Obasanjo was the clownish builder who raised the structure by adding high level corruption to fuel supply and painted fuel scarcity with subsidy removals. Is it not worthy to note that the govt of Yaradua and Jonathan has not gone ahead to remove subsidy, they have not also made us beg that they remove the subsidy like Obj always made us do. Fuel prices moved twice in this administration and both times went down. It is important that we remove the subsidy but has this govt forced it down on us, instead they have engaged in dialogue and this dialogue still continues. monkeyleg:What do u want me to say in response to the spending, are u in the govt to be able to clearly define those expenses as reckless, you only made sentimental judgement on the expenses. Can a nation be 50 twice, so if we decide to celebrate with 12b so what some people would get jobs while this money is being spent. The issue with 12b or 120naira should be accountability. The 12b for independence anniversary can not deny us funds for building schools if we want to, or roads if we want to. Jonathan as president is the beginning of a future that we can all look forward to, it really does not matter if u see it or not, but we are all here and we would see. |
Beaf:Beaf you are right on point. Is he going to say "let there be security" and we have "security". How can all the blind and hungary nigerians understand that his promise here are unfulfillable. He does not even have a blueprint or road map yet, Jonathan is working with an economic blueprint already and his road map on power is on course. He does not even have a political party, I wonder who they confer with before coming out, Ribadu just made another political blunder, he has created more enemies than friends. If anyone can advice him kindly advice him to go to his senatorial district or his Federal constituency, we cant all be presidents at the same time, y position urself to fail, Ribadu can consider running for the senate or house of reps he could fail but it would be on record that he ran he would then have learnt one or two lessons in politics. How could Ribadu have forgotten so soon the lessons he should have learnt from his time at the EFCC. Ribadu go to the senate win a seat and fight corruption in the senate, debate exhaustively all executive expenditure, aspire to be chairman of committee that would oversee the EFCC,ICPC and CCB, by the time you are through with the first four years nobody can stop u, only u can decide if you want to be president or not. |
monkeyleg:What achievement are you looking for. Are there fuel queues in the area you stay, or do you buy fuel above the regulated price at any fuel station. How short our memory seems to be. This is only one, what achievements do other contenders have, look forward brother!!! Are you deceived to think that we can develop in one day,one month one year or even one decade? The task of nation building is a marathon not a sprint, a student who starts in JSS1 cannot be asked if he can solve differential calculus. Jonathan has lasted this long because of the way he has played his politics and Buhari is losing relevance even among his people because of the way he plays his politics. Abagworo:No arguements Abagworo but can buhari play the politics to get to the presidency. he has a good shot at it this period but can he get the right people to support him, can he sell himself. politics just like marketing is a persuasive act not a compelling act, have you watched how Jonathan is trying to reach out across all divides to ensure that he gets support, even Jesus who did all that was right lost an election to a criminal with Pilate as umpire. If buhari wants to be president he must not look down on any of his associates or political opponents, he must strategise, he can play the role of a God father and push a Ribadus presidency, he can take a Duke for VP reach out to Ribadu to pledge his(Ribadus) support for him, get fashola and Tinubu to align with him, reach out to some of our past corrupt leaders and individuals every body is important even if you will jail them later. My vote can not be wasted by voting Buhari and he losing and Jonathan by losing my vote and support also losing and then Ibb coming out to win and set my nation 25yrs backward, God forbid. Please let us all be civil in our arguments, Jonathans wife moving money does not imply that Jonathan can not lead this country to a better place if not even the promised land. |
That's right beaf. But let's not go into d issue of presidential jets. Buhari needs to work hard, presidency of Nigeria is not 4 wishful thinkers, if u must win in a game u shld be able 2 play d game so if Buhari wants to win this political game he must know how to play politics. You can't b rigid and rule in a democracy, his rigidity even cost him his dictatorship, ibb knos hw 2 play politics, dats y he is still relevant in 1999 he single handedly bankrolled Obj on us, in 2003 he was also on Objs side in 2007 he decided against runnin because he knew he cldnt win obj and now his time has come 4 his failure because d man he wants 2 underate is the one destined 2 rubbish him. Back 2 d topic no one man can b d solution to nigerias problem, its a colective responsibility of all, we must all shun corruption, starting from d churches, then d local communities |
Mbulela u must undastand dat all national issues are all pressing. That Cameron flies commercial does not mean our president must go commercial. Do you think for real that if all our money is budgeted for development purposes all our problems wld disappear. I don't intend to use this thread to justify the jets as I bliv anoda thread exists already for that. The task of nation building will always be Work In Progress u neva can finish building roads, or economy, salaries can not remain stagnant and so on. The american president has a jet, the UK prime minista goes commercial d Nigerian leada opts 4 a private jet that does not make him a gr8 leada lik Obama and does not also imply dat he is inept. |
@Mbulela, does sacking the head of an anti corruption agency because people who dont even understand the workings of the agency say so shows that the president is performing, look at it this way Pilate listened to the people and crucified an innocent man and release a thief. So Jonathan not listening to noise been made by Nigerians who dont understand the role of the EFCC in a democracy can not be a draw back for him. I feel very disappointed when educated men like you sound uneducated, do you really think that buying three presidential jets can hinder the salary hike, come to think of it,if it is the money to be used in purchase of jets that would be used to implement the salary raise then we can as well forget it because that amount can not take the salary raise for six months. All I am trying to say is that a budget for one item should not be seen as a hindrance to another, just like Jonathan has said the salary hike is in the supplementary budget and once passed by the senate the workers would be paid in Arrears from July. If we must grow we must stop this local mentality that because a govt spends on defence, education must suffer, that is what Yaradua preached in his 7point agenda. Building institutions is more important than any other thing in a nation. Dimeji Bankole is not Goodluck Jonathan!!! |
@Naijaking when you believe in something you dont just back out. Remi did a good job and has decided to resign thot you guys have been looking for people who can resign from political appointments well here you have another! |
Buhari is the man but we can not allow this opportunity that we have to move away from the old breed to slip by us. If Buhari can get Duke for a deputy it would be a tough contest for Jonathan. Buhari may be the solution but to me his time is past this is the time of young minds, Jonathan epitomises it, Jonathan is almost our equivalent of Obama, who ever thought that a Niger Deltan would be in top contention for the presidency. Can we imagine if Yaradua was alive and decided not to contest a second term Jonathan would not have a chance in hell, but today see where we are. Good people the time has come for Buhari to step down honourably for Jonathan and give him the necessary support he needs and consider playing a role in the govt, If Buhari believes he has something to offer he should kindly pick a senatorial seat and represent his people at the national level and help the nation by whistle blowing, we all know that the corruption in the National Assembly stinks to the high heavens and this corruption is not even productive. |
with the amount of unemployed people i am not surprised. at a funeral even the murderer is found there. a lot of pple were there just to catch a glimpse of the man who laid the solid foundation for our failure as a nation. some of my frnds who were there were happy because most of d pple were actually there to mock the man ibb. |
@bk babe my candid advice is ignore Chys he has no contribution to this thread. He is just a very good example of an educated illiterate or how else does one explain the question "how does this help the yorubas" In case you don't know its history! |
If the Niger state gov is not present or has chosen to back Jonathan then the light at the end of the Nigerian tunnel is actually in sight. It implies that d presidential contest would be a national contest and not ethnic or regional, supports should not be justbecause someone is of ur tribe, religion or zone. I look forward to a day an Ibo man will contest and win the governorship seat of a state like Lagos or Kano and when an Edo man can contest in Ogun State and when you dont have to be an indigene to be made a commisioner of a state. I still believe in Nigeria, If after 25yrs of continuos despoilation of the land we still are here at the threshold of a new dawn, I believe that in another 25 yrs we wld be greater than we can imagine, that the generation coming behind us will have kind words for us, this is my dream |
playmode:Is that the only portion of my reply that made sense to you? Since we are on the same side let me excuse you and withdraw my assertion, hence one of the biggest parties in Africa is at his whims, Kx:@Kx u will always remain shocked even till after the elections. If you are blind to see and immature to perceive all that Goodluck is doing then u can go and sit in the cemetary and wait for the elections to be over. |
Did anybody expect it to be an empty declaration. Been at the declaration does not imply support. Some people at his declaration would not vote for him. On election day you would be surprised to see IBB voting for GEJ |
Goodluck is the man for 2011, all those looking for his achievements kindly read thru his message and you will find them there. This is no time for wishful thinking of how Ribadu or Rufai or Utomi can become president, This is the time of action and Action to deliver the man Goodluck Ebele Jonathan as president. He has all it takes to win comfortably, the rigging machine we all hate is under his care, the treasury that has always been used to our disadvantage at elction times is in his kitty, the biggest party in Africa moves at his whims, The ND that has neva produced a president is producing him. If he has made fuel scarcity history in less than nine months as president one wonders what he would do to blackouts after two years as president. Nigerians if we have given IBB a chance b4 where he failed us, Obj got two chances, Buhari had his chance let GEJ have his own chance come 2011! Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria |
Lekshak said the group was further bewildered when it noticed that all its Goodluck Jonathan posters pasted round Lafia, were superimposed with those of IBB. Dont let that worry u, IBB will be rigged out or have his election annuled and then die in prison, to complete the karma, if GEJ cant win free nd fair he must defeat IBB by hook or crook, by credible voting or outright rigging |
If Jonathan does not run the opposition should put themselves together and bring up a Duke/Ribadu presidency. It would defeat the zoning rubbish of the PDP and breathe a lease of fresh air, il vote this combiation or buhari/duke combination |
This is the sweetest thread I have seen on NL in recent times. The challenge is who do we want representing us at our senatorial and federal constituencies. I have always cried out that people like Utomi, Falana, Umar, Ribadu and other men of proven character should leave the presidential race alone go to your people, convince them to give u a shot as a representative then come to the centre stage and shout out. Will Utomi agree with Senators increasing their salaries in 24hrs while docs are on strike, would a Duke be in d senate and we wuld be arguing abt wat happens because Yaradua is sick. Not only at the national level but also at the state level and LG levels, let us demphasize the executive office but rather place more emphasis on the legislative arms because truly this is where the power comes from. When we are able to actively vote in this people when they start misbehaving we can also recall them back home. |
Quote from omojand Commendable, kudos to GEJ. He has my full support. However, I still think the police force needs an outsider (or a member of the lower ranks) to turn things around. Everyone above AIG in Nigeria is currupt. They will not make a difference. Bring in transformational leaders like Ribadu. The new IG is known as a man averse to corruption. I have interacted with low level police officers who served with him in bayelsa and all they said is that the man Rigim can never be corrupted by money, he was the first commisioner in Bayelsa who ensued that every officer got their right share of the christmas bonus always given out by govt, as AIG he never tolerated any CP bringing cash gifts to him as head of an accounts section cant really remeber wat d guy called it he never autorised sharing of unapproved monies or excesses, he is known to have dismissed a lot of officers for disciplinary breach without looking back, moeso he was not CP we Jonathan was gov but was wen Jonathan was deputy. was only assigned to Bayelsa to pick up Alams and make sure d state remains calm, just imagine if he had been involved in corrupt pratises with the gov, Jonathan has made anoda bold move. For the guy whining that his maid can do better he should kindly enroll her in a party and campaign for her presidency, does he tink dat being president is abt wishful tinking |
Regrettably, it turned out that Major-General Muhammadu Buhari was too rigid and uncompromising in his attitudes to issues of national significance. Efforts to make him understand that a diverse polity like Nigeria required recognition and appreciation of differences in both cultural and individual perceptions, only served to aggravate these attitudes. Major-General Tunde Idiagbon was similarly inclined in that respect. As Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters, he failed to exhibit the appropriate disposition demanded by his position. He arrogated to himself absolute knowledge of problems and solutions, and acted in accordance with what was convenient to him, using the machinery of government as his tool. Let me now address your attention to the major issues that confront us, so that we may, as one people, chart a future direction for our dear country. We do not pretend to have all the answers to the questions which our present problems have put before our nation. We have come with the strongest determination to create an atmosphere in which positive efforts shall be given the necessary support for lasting solutions. For matters of the moment which require immediate resolutions, we intend to pursue a determined programme of action. Major issues falling into this category have been identified and decisions taken on what should be done. As seen in the highlighted sections IBB observed that Buhari was rigid without considering the PECULIAR nature of NIGERIA, he also observed that Idiagbon carried on like he had answers to the questions troubling the nation but he and his group did not have all the answers to the questions. Now with hindsight we can see that Buhari/Idiagbon knew the problems and were already solving before IBB came in to the picture. conclusion is IBB is a curse to this nation and that is why if i had to vote a northerner for president I would vote buhari ten times over before i check even if IBB is running. Ibb fans please read thru his coup broadcast and judge him yourself. Today we hail Ribadu but if Ibb hadnt come into the picture the average police man would have been a ribadu when u have a leader lke buhari/idiagbon. Ibb did us a disservice and he should ask God to take his life because the future generation he reffered to then are here now bein born into hospitals that are less in standard than the consulting clinics of his days, the education sector is not only decayed but it rots our resources have never been more uselessly wasted and the gap between himself and the average Nigerian is the gap between the super rich and the pauper. Ibb is a sad part of our history, Buhari would have made this country a force to reckon with in the world stage without subjecting us to unsolicited and wasted loans, we may as well have been a Saudi of Africa!! |
