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Due to christendom churches many people see Christianity as just as another religion so it's when they come in contact with JWs that they're really offended as our preaching, teaching and activities reaches deep down their hearts {Hebrews 4:12} unlike the usual noisemakers whose utterances doesn't have any impact on their thinking.
That's why we have many enemies who wishes we should be banned not to talk again even though we don't disturb them with noise in their neighbourhood! Matthew 12:19

Aemmyjah:
I can enter but if there is no much people there but I don't go to the counter cos that is when someone will snap and post of one of us preaching and you will think we are betting.
Similarly, we won't enter a brothel

Aemmyjah:
Sports betting is gambling and all forms of gambling is a sin cos it is fueled by greed to 'win' money but it is others people money you are pocketing. Many people use jazz to win and many people lives have become useless
If Jesus were alive today, will you see him and his disciples playing sports bet

John 16:2

But then:

John 11:25

So:

Matthew 10:28

guysbewise:
Hosea 4:14
“I will not punish your daughters when they turn to prostitution, nor your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery, because the men themselves consort with harlots and sacrifice with shrine prostitutes— a people without understanding will come to ruin!

This verse has finished you walahi talahi but it's obvious you're just quoting without thinking!

God hates prostitution but because the Israelites men cheat on their women with prostitutes God promised not to punish their daughters who chose to become prostitutes.

They need to understand from what happened to Judah their great grandfather that engaging the service of a prostitute is evil.

Rahab wasn't a worshiper of God so she doesn't know what God said about prostitution but she loves the true God due to all His activities that's why she left her own people to join God's people and so Jehovah rewarded her.

You hate God's people today due to your lack of faith yet you're here arguing blindly.

Whether you like it or not the message has been passed, Jesus of Nazareth has proved to be the most wonderful counselor of all time as you can't present any group of people worshiping your god whereas their are millions of witnesses practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught globally today! Act 1:8

Wagwanbrethren:
Why?
JW are known to be so peaceful and loving people.

John 16:2

guysbewise:
God created men to have wet dreams because God has created men to have sex and if left for too long God has created wet dreams to do the job of having sex or masturbation, but people like you who do not use the brain God has given us but instead leave the brain God has given them under their bed and follow your invented master Jesus created by the Roman Empire to control their minds to believe a fake virgin birth and a fake resurrection and a fake second coming there by turning themselves into zombies.
It's better to masturbate instead of commiting insects and abuse like the ministerial servant in your organisation and you being a hypocrite has tried to play down the evil of the ministerial servant in your organisation. Read the screenshot in the image again and stop being a deceiver. I cannot post it here as any mention of your organisation results in a ban.

The Old Testament also has these so one needs to apply the wisdom God has given them when reading the Old Testament.

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)
Comment: It is wise to retreat in a battle if neccesary

611. Carry out the laws of captive women.
(Deuteronomy 21:11)
Comment: It is wrong to keep a woman captive

613. Not to retain her for servitude after having relations with her.
(Deuteronomy 21:14)
Comment: It is wrong to have relations with a woman without her consent

Wet dreams totally differs from masturbation!

Wet dreams is natural as all your senses and veins aren't stimulated to do something rigorous like forcing yourself to cum in the absence of a mate. That's why most of you do end up becoming useless to yourself and your parents because masturbators are half insane who can't think straight for stressing their brains to do what supposed to come naturally.

Ọmọ don't let me give you HBP because you can't survive my comments on this, that's why i said:

"if you feel (masturbation) is OK by you keep doing it nobody will force you not to do what you want"

But trying to justify it in my presence is what'll never be possible because i'm one of the students of the most wonderful counselor ever on this planet: Jesus of Nazareth! Isaiah 9:6

So in this debate you can't prove anything. I have told you that incest either mother and son, father and daughter or brother and sister is wrong so your lengthy epistle on that is not necessary. But prostitution and masturbation is wrong for anyone who wants to live forever as God promised in the Bible! Psalms 37:29

Meanwhile what Jesus said about lustfully looking at a female to whom you're not married {Matthew 5:28} has been said by Job whom God spoke of as a righteous man! Job 31:1

So whether you like it or not the message has been delivered, don't worry yourself faithful people will pick it and make the best use of the counsel of the most wonderful counselor of all time: Jesus of Nazareth!

Masturbation only becomes a sin because it's unhealthy habit but if you feel it's OK by you keep doing it nobody will force you not to do what you want. Incest is a crime and no one is in support of it.
What Jesus taught us is how to live in Paradise and people who hope to be remembered when resurrection happens {Job 14:13-15} will never look lustfully at females to whom they're not married:

“I have made a covenant with my eyes. So how could I show improper attention to a virgin?" Job 31:1

Compare to:

"But I say to you that everyone who keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" Matthew 5:28

So whether you like it or not the message has been delivered!

guysbewise:
It's better to masturbate instead of commiting insects and abuse like the ministerial servant in your organisation and you being a hypocrite has tried to play down the evil of the ministerial servant in your organisation. Read the screenshot in the image again and stop being a deceiver. I cannot post it here as any mention of your organisation results in a ban.

Following your invented master Jesus means a person has to stop using the brain God has given the person and the person should allow hypocrites like you to control their minds. There is nowhere in the Old Testament where God says mastubatiur is a sin. Those that claim holier than thou because they are following your invented master Jesus, will be saying that masturbation is a sin but in secret they are doing terrible stuff someone that masturbate does not do.

Judaism that contains the True words of God and does not hate sex unlike your invented master Jesus that says if any man looks lustfully on to a woman the man has committed adultery. So how does a normal man even get attracted to his wife or a woman he wants to marry without thinking of intimacy, or is getting a wife an item you order on jiji that just gets delivered to your door like that.

James 2:25
In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?

Hosea 4:14
“I will not punish your daughters when they turn to prostitution, nor your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery, because the men themselves consort with harlots and sacrifice with shrine prostitutes— a people without understanding will come to ruin!

So if your mother or wife or sister or daughter decides to be a prostitute is their choice, I will not condemn them.

Flamemignon1:
Morality isn't the same for everyone

If we want justice, peace and progress in the human society morality must be the same.

That's why people support either sides during wars killing people and been killed instead of settling matters using the same yardstick for morality!

Deo1986:
You baptized as a JW in 2014 and you are all over Nairaland defending what you don't know.
I am not gonna engage you in any religious debate henceforth for lying to me that you studied the, you can live book in '92.

Ọmọ you're not even fit to do so! Isaiah 54:17

Now you know that you're not chatting with a person who just found the faith suddenly, it took the JWs more than two decades to make me one of them.

Farewell my faithless friend!

PoliteActivist:
You are a lay person. You just believe what you are told to belive. You don't know the kind of heart/spirit the leaders. Shine your eyes sometimes

Obviously faith is not your portion! 2Thessalonians 3:2

PoliteActivist:
My friend who was the shooter. I thought you'd have inside info

Any hater of what is happening in the hall can do that. JWs aren't really concerned about who the devil use to inflict pain on us we know the one fighting us it's not flesh and blood {Ephesians 6:12} in fact we often pray for such ones! Luke 23:34; Act 7:60 compare to Matthew 5:44

So the shooter is of no relevance to us it's the authorities who makes rules the shooter broke that will take him up on that and if he repents today we will welcome him with open harms!

immanuelsize:
can you boldly enter bet9ja shop and preach this to those hustlers there?

Can Jesus enter into the home of a none Jew to preach his message? Matthew 10:5-6

PoliteActivist:
WHAT happened is the question

Jesus' prophecy about what will happen to his true disciples in the last days are been fulfilled! Matthew 24:9; 35

Skyview01:
I never refer to any pastor as a "man of God", there was no time God told me they were his men. They are just pastors of their respective churches and 99.9% of them are self ordained with no tangible verifiable training. They are never men of God. Most don't even have a good understanding of the bible to start. My mother inlaw attended the bible school for Redeem and she said some were even cheating during the exams.

There are real men of God but it's difficult to recognize them if you're not a studious reader of the Bible.

They don't go about with religious titles! Matthew 23:8-10

They don't practice interfaith! Matthew 16:6-12 compare to John 4:20-22

They don't make noise in the street corners or public buses claiming they're preaching! Matthew 12:19

They don't pray with or for whoever is not ready to obey the words of their God! John 17:8-9 compare to Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

They don't meddle in politics! John 17:14-16

They don't promote materialism! Matthew 6:19-21

They don't marry more than one wife! 1Timothy 3:12

There women don't teach in their gathering! 1Timothy 2:11-12; 1Corinthians 14:34

So it's only by observing the attitude of those listening to these men that you can know what they truly are! Matthew 7:16-18

May you have PEACE!

PoliteActivist:
Below, what's going on?

That's exactly what Jesus said will happen to his (TRUE) disciples if they stick to his teachings:

Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God. John 16:2

So what you just cited shows that JWs are doing exactly what Jesus taught that's why this could happen to them in a religiously tolerant country like Germany!

GoodIsGod:
What do I say about your organization?
What have you not said about other christians
You guys are the 21st century Pharisees
You are like the man who pointed at the poor woman praying in the synagogue saying: " God you know I am not like that sinner over there..".
You are the only one practicing what?
You all are living in A Fool's paradise

Goodnight

You guys just argue blindly when you don't know anything!

The highlighted shows that you don't even read your Bible you only listen to what your pastors say. The Pharisee Jesus talked about was condemning a man (not a woman) praying to the same God in the same temple.

Secondly Jesus told a Samaritan woman that only Jews are practicing pure worship out of the twelve tribes of Israel! John 4:20-22

Why did Jesus utter such hash words against the children of his great grandfather Jacob?

Well it's because the Samaritan's form of worship totally differs from that of the Jews just as my form of worship differs from yours yet you want me to agree that it's the same God whereas we disagree on almost all the terms and conditions of worship.

Ọmọ your God is not the same as my God if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's exactly what Jesus told the Samaritan woman! John 4:22

guysbewise:
You ignored all these and decided to dwell on olosho: Christianity does not allow a single man to masturbate, any man that looks lustfully onto a woman has committed adultery so how do you even get attracted to a woman you want to marry without thinking of intimacy, or is getting a wife an item you order on jiji that just gets delivered to your door like that.

Masturbation is the only way out for a man that is still single till he can find a good partner and not to quickly try to marry within the gathering of fellow worshipers which does not guarantee a happy marriage.

But Jewdasm the True Words of God and not the Roman empire invented Jesus Christ Christianity, in Judaism God tells us how to acquire a wife.
Mishnah Kiddushin 1:1 specifies that a woman is acquired (i.e., to be a wife) in three ways: through money, a contract, and sexual intercourse. Ordinarily only one is necessary to effect a binding marriage.

Hosea 4:14
“I will not punish your daughters when they turn to prostitution, nor your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery, because the men themselves consort with harlots and sacrifice with shrine prostitutes— a people without understanding will come to ruin!

So if your mother or wife or sister or daughter decides to be a prostitute is their choice, I will not condem them.

Ọmọ the message has been delivered, whatever you don't want for your mother or wife or sister or daughter know that it's not going to be OK for someone else mother or wife or sister or daughter.

Nobody decides to do what is shameful when things are going fine for them so Christianity is about discouraging people from doing what is wrong with the excuse that things are hard for them. You want to justify prostitution but you shut your eyes to the case of Judah the man from whose name JUDAISM was coined.

He wanted his daughter in-law to be stoned to death for prostitution while he himself is the man who patronized her. The young lady said she's ready to die but she wants to see the man who impregnated her, the evidence in her hand revealed that Judah himself is the man who got his own daughter in-law pregnant so he shouted "she is more righteous than me!" Genesis 38:6-26

So if Judah from whose name JUDAISM was coined out disapproves prostitution for his own daughter in-law then all Judaists are unrighteous patronizing prostitutes.
That's what Jesus of Nazareth concluded! Matthew 7:12

As for the man commiting incest he is wrong and nobody will tell you that he is justified simply because they never knew he's doing such in secret no matter the regard they had for him before then. So don't think stealing is OK simply because the person caught stealing is a respectable man in the society!

Deo1986:
I thought as much. And you lied by saying you studied the, you can live book in '92.

The book is titled, 'You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth!'
you are actually a intoxicated newbie!!

Now JW's of the 70s, 80s and 90s argue differently.

To your question, what parameters are you using to make comparism? List them.

What do you mean by the highlighted?

guysbewise:
So what should a christian man who is still single do, Christianity does not allow a single man to masturbate, not allowed to see an olosho with condom, any man that looks lustfully onto a woman has committed adultery so how do you even get attracted to a woman you want to marry without thinking of intimacy, or is getting a wife an item you order on jiji that just gets delivered to your door like that. Now you can see that you are the one deceiving yourself with lies here and there.

But Jewdasm the True Words of God and not the Roman empire invented Jesus Christ Christianity, in Judaism God tells us how to acquire a wife.
Mishnah Kiddushin 1:1 specifies that a woman is acquired (i.e., to be a wife) in three ways: through money, a contract, and sexual intercourse. Ordinarily only one is necessary to effect a binding marriage.

May you know Judaism and have knowledge!

If you want to ask questions why not just do so instead of jumping from pillar to post?

Well Christians are urged not to lust after the opposite sex when we're not yet ready for commitment. But when we are ready it's the woman or man to whom we're sexually attracted to within the gathering of fellow worshipers that should be our choice to avoid troubles after marriage.
If you feel like sleeping with a prostitute nobody is stopping you but in Christianity we're preparing for a New World where nobody will be sad. So can you approve of your mother or wife or sister or daughter to be that prostitute someone feels like mating with for cash?
If you won't like such well Jesus said:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

How do you think the son or husband or brother or father of the one you want as harlot to feel towards you for encouraging her to continue such lifestyle by paying her off?

Ọmọ whatever you don't wish for yourself try not to think it's OK for others! Genesis 38:6-26

Flamemignon1:
Exactly why I said morality is somewhat objective because there are some things in some cultures that I find barbaric that may clash with my moral compass but they are considered morally right in those cultures even today

You don't have to conclude that way because once you can find two or three families from the same culture that came out and form one happy family with people from other cultures leaving the barbaric thoughts behind then morality is not objective rather some just don't want it so they excuse themselves with stupid cultures which they don't really take in totality.

That's why Africans are suffering because they are trying to sit on the fence between their own traditional beliefs and that of the white man instead of standing firm on one.

Recently Queen Elizabeth died and by the time the English will crown the new king they went into their tradition proper. Do you think such a king will go against the deities of their lands and bring curses upon their people?

Ọmọ morality stands out and it's not objective it's either you accept it or find excuses to reject it!

Deo1986:
lol.
pray tell me,
When were you baptized and what bible study book was used to study the bible with you?
because your responses reeks of newbie intoxication and amaturism.

I met JWs in my early twenties and began studying with them since 1992 using the book
"You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth" i dedicated and got baptized in the year 2014.
Meanwhile i tried so many other religions including Buddhism and even thought of what atheists are saying.

So don't think i never gave them a tough fight before i finally succumb to the fact that there is no religion on this planet that has the truth like JWs.

By the way don't dodge the question:

Do you know any better performing group of worshipers on this planet than JWs?
Please if you do present them to me because i want the best of them all!

GoodIsGod:
I have quoted verses to support my beliefs in former posts. Guy I am tired of repeating same thing. Oga sleep tight.

Everyone can quote the Bible even Muslims do what false religionists can never ever do is to present the group PRACTICING what Jesus taught the way JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will do globally after quoting and explaining.

After preaching and teaching for an extensive period of time Jesus presented the group of people practicing what he's been teaching so far! Matthew 12:46-50

So if you quote the Bible Satan also did while chatting with Jesus {Matthew 4:4} what Satan can't do is to present worshipers of God doing exactly the application he's giving God's word!

So stop blaspheming God's Holy Spirit that's working out fine deeds among Jehovah's Witnesses {Matthew 12:31-32} if you can't present any group practicing what Jesus taught yet condemning the one globally known for actively preaching zealously and industriously teaching God's word even in your neighbourhood then you're fighting against God Himself! Act 5:38-39

You can sleep if you wish just watch what you type with your hands against an organization of faithful worshipers globally performing! James 2:18-26

GoodIsGod:
If you want me to quote verses I have quoted before NO!
Believe what you want.
JW are like Atheists
Even when they realize you made a point and floor their beliefs, they stubbornly stick to their beliefs because they've been programmed like that.
Remain Blessed bro

Ọmọ you're the one who has been programmed!

I quoted God's word, showed you the practical application by presenting a global family of peace loving worshipers doing what i explained! James 2:18-26

All you did was to say your PERSONAL OPINION on what supposed to be God's word which all believers should have the same line of thought on its application! John 17:22

So who has been brainwashed?
I that's teaching with living examples or you that's guessing without any practical application to back up what you're saying?

You just keep deceiving yourself with lies here and there, who told you Christianity hate sex?
If Christians don't have sex how do they have children?
Perhaps you think their wives are Mary who got pregnant without having sex shey?

Well real Christians are punished if their partner should report to the congregation that a husband or wife failed in her marital vows regarding SEX in fact my wife has authority over my body than I do just i have authority over hers too except there's a genuine reason which must be resolved quickly! 1Corinthians 7:2-5

So before you say anything against Christianity try to ask very well so that you don't continue nursing wrong thoughts! 1Thessalonians 5:21

May you have PEACE!

Deo1986:
MaxinDHouse, It appears you are a baby JW drunk with his new found beliefs.
when where you baptized? JW's celebrated christmas uptill the 70's and, the religion has always had a succession of presidents; Russell. Rutherford. Knorr. Henchel etc, all celebrated christmas. Besides each of these presidents made some doctrinal change e.g Rutherford gave the name, Jehovah's Witnesses. Knorr called your worship centre, kingdom hall.
Henchel stopped the celebration of christmas and made some clarifications on, the war of armmageddon which JW world over believed was to happen in 1976. My interest is how puny you is trying to diminish the influence of C.T. Russell on your organisation. are you ashamed of his ties with the Masons?
your current presido is a high ranking mason. Check the logo on the ring of his left finger whenever he gives his broadcast.

If you've made up your mind there's no need asking again but know that the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) stopped the celebration of Christmas in the year 1926 and the name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES was divinely given in the year 1931 after Jesus' angels have separated pure worship from false religions! Isaiah 65:15 compare to Matthew 13:30

So hold onto whatever pleases you i know that only JWs are practicing what Jesus taught that's why none of you critics can present any better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

May you have PEACE!

GoodIsGod:
HERESIES
You guys just make up stories and expect everyone to take it.
Jesus did not need the permission of God because he is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He automatically can't do anything against the will of God. So, he needs no instruction. The only time he prayed before a miracle was at the tomb of Lazarus. And it was not a prayer of request but of thanks. And he told us why he had to say the words "but because of these people that are present. For them to know I am from you"
Read your Bible and ask God for understanding not relying on AWAKE AND WATCHTOWER May God Help you.

Thank God you only responded without a single verse from Jesus' words!

He said he cannot do a single thing out of his own initiative {John 5:19} you can continue with your friend but we know that Jesus cannot do anything without the permission of the one who sent him! John 8:28-29

May you have PEACE!

Deo1986:
Founder, beginner, brainchild.

OK, NO!
He just happens to be part of our brothers in the Lord.
When people carry rumours they don't use to think deeply over what they're saying.
Do you know that most Jews in the first century thought John the baptist founded the Christian group back then?
Well before his time there was no prophet that baptize people they only preach about their God so after John's death Jesus' disciples were later baptizing people just as John did and many of John's disciples joined Jesus so most Jew believed the founder of the Christian movement is John the baptist.

The same happened in the case of brother C.T. Russell himself and others were making research as to where the churches ran off course what they discovered led them to many churches perhaps to help those churches make amendments but none took them serious that's why they formed a movement preaching publicly in street corners using megaphones. That's totally against Jesus' style of preaching because Jesus never taught his disciples to disturb the community with noise! Matthew 12:19

It was much later after his death that the group found out so many wrong things they were doing and began making adjustments and the name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES came as a surprise to those remaining because most people who believed C.T. Russell's legacy left the group thinking those making amendments were wrong. In fact there are several groups today that still practice exactly what C.T Russell did when he was alive.
For your information do you know that Russell used to celebrate Christmas in his time?

So how do you think he is the founder of the group that has changed so much after his death even the name he knew in his lifetime is not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

That's why i said you've been thoroughly misinformed. Unless if you agree with the first century Jews who think John the baptist founded Christianity then i will agree with you that C.T Russell founded Jehovah's Witnesses organization. But then remember that John didn't know most things Jesus later taught his disciples and even the group name Christians came much later after the death of John the baptist!

Deo1986:
Man are you say CT Russel is not the originator of the JW sect?

What do you mean by originator?

Deo1986:
The Jehovah's Witness.

OK you've been misinformed he's one of our brothers not the founder and he never committed suicide.

Deo1986:
I heard your founder, Charles Taze Russell committed suicide, true?

Founder of what?

Flamemignon1:
Uhhh, wasn't twins an abomination in some cultures back in the day?

In ancient times excrement was used as part of the ingredients of medicine but gradually as enlightenment comes it was eradicated.
So if some people believe something but later discover it's wrong that's not the time to start arguing blindly claiming it's objective!

Ken4Christ:
Keep looking for presentation until the demons present you in hell for serving the devil very well with your false teachings.

False religions has made you dumb!

If you don't have sense learn from those who have, Jesus can't be Lord if he's not commanding a multitude of witnesses who are practicing what he taught. So your inability to present a group practicing what Jesus taught is evidence that you're empty headed!

Present the group practicing what Jesus taught!

Ken4Christ:
You are a confirmed agent of darkness.
I will soon set some of the people you are holding captive by your false teachings when I expose all your lies.