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tctrills:
English, a demigod is the opposite of a mighty God. I never said Jesus was equal or not. That was never the argument. The argument was if the bible called him God and I have shown you that he was called might God.

Do you have that in any dictionary?

Because mighty simply means powerful and all Gods are powerful no matter there position it's the title "ALMIGHTY" they're not qualified to be called!

tctrills:
Or you believe there are lots of God's now. See confusion. You asked me to show you where the bible called Jesus Christ a God and I showed you where he was called a mighty God, does that settle it now?
Also, simple English, a demigod is the opposite of a mighty God.

Demigod is the best word for any person referred to as God but not with same power and authority as the Almighty God!

tctrills:
For you English lesson, a mighty God is the opposite of a demigod.
Demi means half; half-size.
"demisemiquaver"
2.
partially; in an inferior degree.
Hence, a demigod is never a mighty God. Please consult your dictionary.

Exactly!
Jesus is not equal to the Almighty God so we can rightly say he is a demigod!

tctrills:
I did not insult you. I only stated that the definition of a demigod is not someone that prays to his father. So if that is the only JW argument then it is foolish.
Did your bible not call him the mighty God?

There are lots of Gods {1Corinthians 8:5} and they're all mighty in power {Psalms 82:1, 6} but there is just one who is the Almighty that's the God Jesus himself worshiped! John 20:17

That's why it's appropriate to conclude Jesus is a demigod!

tctrills:
Your reason for calling Jesus Christ a demigod is because he prayed to his father. My reason for calling him God is because the bible called him God. Isaiah called him the mighty God and John told us he is the word and the word was God. Even the Apostle Thomas declared Jesus Christ is Lord and God.

So in a nutshell you're trying to prove it but it wasn't CLEARLY STATED anywhere that
"Jesus is God" shey?

tctrills:
Baba, just agree to the challenge na. Stop beating about the bush Mr demigod.
The definition of a demigod is not someone that prayed, knelt, begged and cried onto someone greater than him. Please look up the definition before making a foolish argument.

Don't resort to insult now my friend.
Tell everyone the meaning of a demigod as found in your dictionary and let's see if it correlates with what i said.
For the challenge it's not about choice of words but what you claimed:

It is not CLEARLY STATED anywhere in the Bible that "Jesus is God" that's what you're trying so hard to shy away from and i have gotten your message.

TenQ:
No direct but Dumb answer as usual!
Have a nice day!

Enjoy your day!

tctrills:
Someone is scared here. Please sir don't be afraid of a little challenge. It seems you are no longer sure of your beliefs.
You question my beliefs and I am happy to teach you from the scriptures but I just want to know if you can do the same.

If you truly want to TEACH you won't tell a lie that it's CLEARLY STATED in the Bible that "Jesus is God" then start disturbing me when i told you the meaning of "demigod"

TEACHING is not about quoting other people but choosing appropriate words to drive home your point.

Jesus prayed, knelt, begged and cried onto someone greater than him so that is enough evidence he is not the Almighty God but a demigod just like Moses.

Ọmọ this is not about arguing blindly but what anyone with COMMON sense can easily decipher!

tctrills:
Oga I am waiting. I will show you 3 verses in the bible that called Jesus Christ God and you just show me one that called him a demigod. Do we have an agreement 🤝?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i never said it's CLEARLY STATED in the Bible that's the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.
When PREACHING we only appeal to people's hearts to gain attention but when TEACHING we choose appropriate words to drive home the point.
So it's you who claimed what you said about Jesus is CLEARLY STATED in the Bible that's having issues now!

Ọmọ just rest the case, it's not CLEARLY STATED anywhere in the Bible that "Jesus is God" enjoy your day!

tctrills:
I will but I would also love to hear your demigod version so are you promising to quote your demigod version?

Ọmọ i never said it's CLEARLY STATED in the Bible that's the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.
When PREACHING we only appeal to people's hearts to gain attention but when TEACHING we choose appropriate words to drive home the point.
So it's you who claimed what you said about Jesus is CLEARLY STATED in the Bible that's having issues now!

tctrills:
Yes it is sir. But your JW scriptures says he is a demigod. I actually prefer my own scriptures to your myth.

No STORY!

Oya quote it out in any version of the Bible for everyone to see where it's CLEARLY STATED that "Jesus IS God"

tctrills:
John 1.1
Isaiah 9.6

Is it "CLEARLY STATED" in your own copy of the scriptures that "Jesus is God" in any of the two verses you cited?

Skyview01:
The topic above is a mind boggling , valid question that has been gnawing at
my mind for a very long time.

Why do you refer to your pastor as "man of God". I am yet to see this trend in any western country but only in Nigeria and African countries.

These people are simply pastors of their respective churches and nothing Godly about most of them so stop this ugly attitudes ok.

Thanks.

Africans do seek for priests to solve to their problems instead of using their God's given brains, that has been our people's attitude from ages. So when the white man now replace the priests in our shrines with their own spies our people turn to them forgetting that everyone has problems including the priest in our shrines and pastors.

The tag MOG shows the way they view these guys it's like those who can solve their problems!

Ken4Christ:
Instead of you to hide your head in shame for being a part of a religious group that has turned the Bible upside down with their lies.
Don't worry, my book exposing all your false teachings will soon be released. You will all be exposed.

OLÓDO!

All you can do is delude yourself, real intelligent examiners don't go about declaring losers rather we declare the winner.
Instead of arguing blindly on what you don't know why not help Nairalanders to identify the group that's practicing Christianity for real out of countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines?

tctrills:
Oga, keep justifying your fetish beliefs. You guys have invented a whole new religion by mixing Christian realities with febles. The bible clearly stated that Jesus Christ is God, but just to be different you guys now make him a demigod.
I noticed that you and your bro went silent at the very same time. I am sure you guys have met to collaborate your stories so you don't continue disgracing yourselves.

NO!
The Bible never say "Jesus IS God"

You can never find it anywhere in the Bible!

TenQ:
Just mention one verse when Jesus mentioned your group "JW organisation" or forever keep your mouth shut.

Jesus has told you that fine seeds will be allowed to grow together with weeds but in the last days angels will come and separate them! Matthew 13:24-30
Jesus can't reveal the group name JEHOVAH intend to call His worshipers {Isaiah 65:15} so it was revealed when false religionists like you have profaned the name we borrowed in Antioch! Act 11:26

Humble yourself and learn!

tctrills:
So according to JW correction of the bible,
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was a demigod.
And Isaiah 9.6 should read, the mighty demigod.
You religion is a foolish bend of Greek mythology and a little bit of the bible.
Do you realize that demigods are used in Greek mythology not in Christianity?

Words like demigod/ godlike/ a god is more appropriate to help your listener understand why someone you call God is praying, begging and crying onto another God for help. Isaiah said the child will be called "mighty God" wisdom should tell you that there is another called "Almighty God" Psalms 83:18; 110:1

Your dictionary should help you out here but quoting the Bible without reasonable meaning leaves your listener in confusion that's why none of the churches around have active members to preach zealously and industriously teach like JWs as Jesus commanded his disciples to do! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

Ken4Christ:
But you are not free from the guilt of sin.
Only those who have received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are free from the guilt of sin and condemnation. And you cannot receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit because you don't know him. Embrace the gospel. Philosophy will not save you.

Misinformed Churchgoer, it's not just reading and quoting what you see in the Bible that is called preaching. Real Christians don't just pick up the Bible and start preaching to everyone expecting them to believe (trust) in the book we carry, the first thing is working on our IQ to boost it's level because faith is not interesting to all kinds of people. 2Thessalonians 3:2

The person you're chatting with surely agree with virtuous deeds and not disputing that God doesn't exist, what he is saying is that you can't raise your opinion of God above his own after all you have no living proof other than the book you're quoting. That's why JWs are trained to speak with people intelligently in order to reach the heart of our listener.

When Jesus sent us out he emphasized on told us to go from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} this will allow for a heart to heart talk with our neighbour who has a totally different outlook about God not that someone just stand up in a bus or street corner and start quoting the book in his hand expecting everyone to concur to what you're quoting in your book! Matthew 12:19

I know you will start arguing blindly now talking about HellFire and how you wish to see people been tormented alive for not trusting what you're saying but ọmọ that's delusion not knowledge!

tctrills:
From your arguments, it's clear that you believe in many Gods only that you call one Almighty. Very little difference between you and me at that except that you sound exactly like the ancient Greeks. This was their position.

tctrills:
Really, it doesn't matter if a God prays to another. Clearly you believe in many Gods. Also I am pretty sure the bible never refered to anyone as a demigod. This is another JW invention.
If only you guys could turn your inventions to science and tech and not just in stupid catch phases.

Whether you like it or not God's word confirmed that there are many Gods both in heaven and on earth! 1Corinthians 8:5

So if you don't believe that's your cup of coffee!

tctrills:
Jesus was a demigod according to JW. Not written in my Bible. Meanwhile you elder brother thinks Moses is deity.

Ọmọ nah demigods dey bow, pray, beg, cry onto someone else!

TenQ:
Just mention one verse when Jesus mentioned your group "JW organisation" or forever keep your mouth shut.

Funny misinformed churchgoer!

Can you quote where the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi said the Christ will be called "Jesus"?

Well that's why majority of the Jews never accepted him.

As for the name Jehovah's Witnesses God began calling us that name in the year 1931 so you can't find it written in the Bible otherwise false religionists like you would have claimed it just as you stole the borrowed group name "CHRISTIANS" and turned it into a curse among mankind! Isaiah 65:15

tctrills:
Now you call Jesus Christ a false God. Loool

Surely both Moses and Jesus were a demigods because the power was bestowed on them by someone who is all powerful!

That's what consistency is all about not just arguing without concluding on a clear point!

tctrills:
Please talk to him, your boy is very confused. You called Jesus Christ a God and not you say he is not a God anymore? You are more confused than him looooool

This is why you're semi-atheist always saying you're catching fun when you can't prove anything right!

Jesus and Moses were Gods but the one and only true God they both worshiped is the one we JWs worship.

That's why Jesus said:

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17

Ọmọ Jesus' Father is my father, his God is my God!

tctrills:
So you agree that there are more than one God. Please teach your brother, he is yet to believe this

He never doubted 1Corinthians 8:5 it's you who now said Gods Son is the same God that born himself is the one needing wisdom here!

Janosky:
When you shout "oh My God! ", Exclamation mark of surprise, @ John 20:28.
That's not a reference to God at all.
Oga,Stop deceiving yourself.
Open any translation of John 20:28 & take note of the exclamation mark (!) there.
Las las ,John wrote chapter 20 verse 31 to DISAGREE with your claim.

My Lord and my God that people always say whenever they see what is incredible, shey?

Perhaps my colleague who saw a lady with huge boobs and said that was referring to the lady as his Lord and God!

tctrills:
Oga, mighty God is a quality hmm. Guesswork people

Psalms 82:1

"GOD stand in the congregation of the Mighty Ones He judges among the Gods"

So there are many Gods with that quality of being mighty in power but only one is the Almighty and that's the God Jesus worshiped, prayed to, begged for help and cried to for his safety! Hebrews 5:7

TenQ:
The Lord Jesus know those who are His own and it is certainly NOT any group.
Those known by Christ Jesus are His disciples aka Christians. They are His Disciples because they follow Him and also follow His words
UNLIKE some certain people who follow their ORGANISATION and Obey the Commands of their Governing Body instead of Christ.

They follow Jesus yet you can't find just one group of worshipers who aren't fighting and killing their enemies except those following the older men in New York, shey?
Ọmọ you try!

tctrills:
Oga his name is God. He did not serve as God. The bible did not teach that he served as God, the bible called him God. Who do we believe, you or our bibles?

"His name is God"

Ọmọ you need a Bible study, when Isaiah said "his name will be called" it simply means
"do the works of"
Wonderful Counselor
Mighty God
Everlasting Father
Prince of Peace
This are the qualities Jesus' disciples saw in him so when Jesus asked them what the people said about him the responses are:
John the baptist or Elijah or Jeremiah or another prophet.
Jesus later directed the question to his faithful disciples and their response is:
"You are the Son of God" Matthew 16:16
Jesus commended that and said it's on that note that his congregation will be built. Matthew 16:18
What Jesus wants everyone to believe about him is that Jesus is the Son of God NOT God!

tctrills:
You just quoted that the word was God. Oga your bible never said Moses was God stop being funny.
And yes Jesus Christ is Jehovah.
Please read John 1.1
It seems you are assuming that at some point, Jesus Christ stopped being God. But that is not biblical so I can't join you in such believe.

Moses WAS God says the Bible!

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Exodus 7:1

Whether you agree or not Moses WAS at a point in time God on this planet says the Bible.

Jesus never ever claimed to be God just as Moses never claimed to be God but the power to act as God was given to both of them when they walked this planet.

So your idea that Jesus IS God has been flawed because there is no Bible verse that says Jesus IS God rather what we found written is that the word WAS God. John 1:1

Isaiah prophesied that the male child will be called.... Mighty God {Isaiah 9:6} and so when the child walked this planet he served as God in the midst of his contemporaries but never at any point in time did he claim to be God rather he prayed, begged and cried unto the one and only true God to save him!

tctrills:
The argument was never about seniority in heaven. Please stop losing concentration. I am only teaching you that your bible tells that Jesus Christ is God. Is his father senior to him? Yes
But if you don't believe the bible, it's up to you.
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Please quote or cite a verse where the Bible says:

"Jesus IS God"

There is no verse from Genesis to Revelation where it's written that way.

John said:
"the word WAS God" because Jesus only served as God for a point in time just as Moses also served as God at a point in time. Exodus 7:1

Jehovah is the one and only person who IS God, all other Gods are lesser than Him because he permitted them to act as God for a reason there IS no other God but one! Deuteronomy 6:4 compare to Mark 12:29

This is the first time since 1960 that a political party will present both their candidate and his running mate from the same religion, it has always been one from either side.

Nnamdi Azikiwe/Tafawa Balewa
Shehu Shagari/Alex Ekwueme
Olusegun Obasanjo/Abubakar Atiku
Umar Yar'adua/Goodluck Jonathan
Goodluck Jonathan/Namadi Sambo
Muhammad Buhari/Yemi Osinbajo

These has always been the arrangement that's why most Nigerians (including political Muslims) frown at it.

The last vision or revelation from God has been sealed in the Bible book of Revelation where Jesus said
NO ADDITION and NO SUBTRACTION! Revelations 22:18-19

So if anyone say God showed him anything apart from what is revealed in God's word let him or her be accursed! Galatians 1:8

We may not fully understand the prophecies found in the Bible but openly declaring God revealed any secret to anyone apart from the sacred secrets found in the Bible is totally wrong!