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Ken4Christ:
Witness for Jesus you don't believe in. You make me laugh.

You don't even know what BELIEVING truly means because if you do you won't be arguing blindly without presenting the group practicing what Jesus whom you call LORD taught.

If you're saying Jesus is Lord but you can't point to any visible group under the commands of the one you call LORD ọmọ you're mocking Jesus!

Flamemignon1:
I said "morality is objective" and it's everyone's truth in that regard

Stop deceiving yourself, you will never ever agree that a rapist who molested your mom has any sound reason doing so neither will you agree that anyone supporting such act is normal upstairs.
So morality is not objective!

Aemmyjah:
I know
I don't hate anyone
But there are two instances in the ministry when the householder asked a question. One, as I can remember is how one Witness in that house quarreled with a neighbor and she was not happy. (If na another person quarrel, it's normal but if na JW). She was almost emotional and I can't say something I don't know the facts and I will not say anything unpleasant about my brother to a non witness. I just stood there looking. Thank God I was with an elder, she now studies the Bible
You really did well to reason with that woman. If na me, I for just keep quiet or carry her to a more mature person to preach to

Keep following Jesus you will surely become wiser than those teaching you now! Psalms 119:99

GoodIsGod:
Matthew 28:18 (KJV) And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Everyone of us knows that All power belongs to God.
So, when Jesus says all power has been given to Him. What does that mean?

This means Jesus has same power as the Father.
God Himself has made it so.

Jesus was given all authority (after his earthly mission) that's why he could say on the torture stake:

"It has finished" or "it has been accomplished" John 19:30

Before then he only has authority over angels in heaven but after that day Jesus has was given the power to deal with any faithful man who proves to be stubborn in ignorance that's why he could attack Paul, note that Jesus couldn't do the same before his death and resurrection.
So only angels were scared of him knowing fully well his position back in heaven! Matthew 8:29; Luke 4:34

For now he is waiting for order from his father to destroy all evildoers both in heaven and on earth with the power confered on him.

But regarding Almighty NO Jesus is not the Almighty because the Almighty doesn't need permission to do anything unlike Jesus who must stick to orders from his father. John 5:19

Aemmyjah:
You're a skilled preacher n teacher, able to handle God's word aright
If it were me in that circumstance, I will not know what to say

This homosexuality stuff is sick to even imagine and someone come to you and say she's a lesbian¿! I'll tell her Congratulations

But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper and deep respect. 1Peter 3:15

We must RESPECT all kinds of people as long as they're not forcing their opinion on us so by tactfully sharing with them what we have you must also give such ones a listening ear not just trashing everything they say simply because you know it's ridiculous but with keen interest having them in mind because in order to make friends we must reason deeply with others to know why they choose to live the way they are.

We must not forget that faith is not a possession of all kinds of people {2Thessalonians 3:2} so we can't expect everyone we see around us to have faith in the invisible God the same way we do. But when they contemplate on how beneficial our conduct turns out to be they will surely like to come closer to make us their friends {1Peter 2:12} they surely know that's not possible unless they adjust their way of life so we must be fully competent and completely equipped to inculcate what we believe in the minds of others that's what makes us CHRISTIANS: imitators of God's only begotten Son! 2Timothy 3:16

Ken4Christ:
So, are you witnessing for Jesus. Jesus said in Acts 1:8 that the disciples will witness for him.
How can you witness for someone you do not believe in? You do not believe that Jesus rose from the dead bodily. So, what are you witnessing for?

If you think we aren't witnessing for Jesus there is no need for fruitless arguments just present those who are truly witnessing for Jesus so that everyone can see the FRUIT they're producing! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26

Ọmọ in the absence of that you be confirmed AntiChrist who is giving the credits belonging to God's Holy Spirit to the Devil! Matthew 12:31-32

Aemmyjah:
Very odd

As fishers of men {Mark 1:17} we must be really tactful when chatting with such ones even though they sound really odd. Matthew 10:16

Says the AntiChrist!

Ken4Christ:
He is cursed. He brought false teachings which has sent millions to hell and many more are headed there without knowing it.

Please, come out from amongst them lest you be condemned with them.

Embrace the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life.

Except a man is born again, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Ken4Christ:
Christianity is not an entertainment industry. God is not looking for a best preforming group. God is concerned about the salvation of your soul which is only available in Christ Jesus.

See AntiChrist!

If performance of a group doesn't matter then what did Jesus mean by this statement:


“You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltiness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything except to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men. “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:13-16

How could this be possible if there's not going to be a PERFORMING GROUP globally known for their excellent performance in what Jesus laid down?

In fact Jesus concluded:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be WITNESSES of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

The highlighted WITNESSES is sure evidence that Jesus strongly believe that it's the fine WORKS of FAITH as demonstrated by his followers globally recognized as one group with the same line of thought {John 17:22} that will judge the divided world of Satan! Luke 11:23

Guy you may have been deceiving yourself along with faithless miscreants like you {2Timothy 3:13} but know that fully competent and completely equipped Bible students {2Timothy 3:16-17} like me will always expose you that you're against the Christ: AntiChrist


So continue dreaming in your fairy HellFire!

Sin is strange to our making that's why there's always a disagreement among sinful humans regarding right and wrong as each sinner wants to prove himself/herself right at the detriment of his or her fellowman. Jeremiah 10:23

The way God created us we are supposed to be Holy (pure) {Genesis 1:26} but then our first parents chose to alienate themselves from God {Romans 5:12} that's what lead all their descendants astray making us aliens to our original nature. Romans 3:23

Humans are supposed to live together in love and peace but sin caused a lot of contradicting opinions on right and wrong even though this could be easily corrected if we all agree to reason with our Creator on right and wrong! Isaiah 1:18

Satan capitalized on our divers opinions to promote evil deeds among us but God's only begotten Son has come so that we can all have the same line thought regarding right and wrong! John 17:22

Aemmyjah:
I wonder what churches think of gambling. Maybe, another means of gaining 'blessings from God'

How many of their pastors will discourage the youth from engaging in jigolo service when he is paying tithes in hundreds of thousands?

To them once money is coming out of it and it's not forcefully done nothing is wrong in it, they only frown at someone collecting other people's money at gun point but since it's all about betting they feel it's OK.

They don't really know the meaning of "Mammon" God of good luck and fortune! Matthew 6:24

Just get yourself occupied with activities that'll take all your thoughts away because this act often start when a child reaches puberty age as he/she first had the experience which is natural and enjoys it if care is not taken he/she will start to initiate the feeling by himself/herself.
Another factor is pornography, after watching the viewer starts feeling like being part of the show which is not possible so masturbation is the next thing.

To stop it the masturbator needs to know that the act is unhealthy then seek help from those who are experienced.

I asked this lady how sweet it is being a lesbian and she told me that as a female she knows the parts of her body that makes her feel high so she enjoys doing it with a female who knew all these as it makes her cum easily touching each other's sensitive parts.
So i asked her:
"haven't you met a man who knows all these?"
She said that's extremely difficult because most people are just too serious about life's big problem of ends meet and other troubles so all they think of is the normal lifestyle of rearing chicken through sex they don't really see it as something to be fully enjoyed.

Then i quoted the song of Solomon where the writer said a lot about the sensitive parts of the female body and i asked her:
Do you think this writer can perform better than your partner who is female like you?

She picked up the Bible and read it several times then she asked: "is this part of the Bible?" I told her "but you're reading it yourself" she was really amazed!
This now led her to ask "but why is it that most preachers say sex is sin?"
I told her if it's sin God wouldn't have given us such sensitive parts that needs to be stimulated for sensual pleasures.
So she asked "are you saying all JWs knows all these?" I told her most but not all because we all come from different backgrounds so that often contribute a lot to our understanding of the scriptures and there are certain things you need to figure out yourself since each of us has what we enjoy mostly since it's not sinful.
Our conversation continue until she asked me "are you married?" i asked her why asking she said she's just curious so i took my wife to her place to study the Bible with her.
On seeing my wife she said "now i know why you're this good, you've gotten a perfect match" i said "why?" She said ordinary looking at my wife she knows this lady is enjoying all the goodies in her perfect man.
My wife was just laughing but afterwards she insisted i stop chatting with her so i left the study in my wife's hand but she stopped studying which means she's not really interested in her study rather what she wants is the man that knew so much about a woman's body.

So being gay or lesbian is not difficult to cure if all men and women knows how useful the body parts God gave us for sensual pleasures instead of thinking it's all about producing babies.

It's satisfaction in sex that some couldn't find in the opposite sex that leads them into these acts, when a person first got his or her sexual appetite fully satisfied through mating with the same gender the thought of getting the same result from their gender continues to linger in their minds hence they try to introduce it to anyone around them.
That is why the Bible said:

"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work" 2Timothy 3:16-17

Most Bible readers do shy away from the book of Songs of Solomon due to the way the writer penned down lots of verses promoting sexual attraction to the opposite sex. Back in those days when i was still a Muslim our clerics often quote this book to discredit the Bible claiming that what Solomon wrote their shouldn't be taken as inspired expressions.

But after a careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayer over this book i discovered that it's teaching me how find pleasure in having sex with the opposite gender as i work towards making my partner cum after noticing her body parts that i need to concentrate on while making love.

Ordinarily composing a poem about my wife's body is enough to make her feel like enjoying sex with me because in that book of Solomon the writer did mention the parts a man needs to focus on while making love with his woman.

This is what most people don't know so when they find satisfaction in their own gender who knows the exact part of his/her that needs to be touched they end up being gays and lesbians.

I once met a beautiful attractive young lady who confessed to me that she's a lesbian in the field ministry. After presenting myself and the message i brought to her about God's Kingdom she asked me if she could have my WhatsApp number which i gave her joyfully hoping she's now one of our Bible students to be introduced to my wife or another Christian sister who will continue studying with her.
But while chatting she openly told me how she enjoy listening to the message JWs do bring only that she couldn't figure out why God will punish gays and lesbians since they're just catching fun after all they're not hurting anyone and from my presentation it's obvious that God wants us to enjoy life to the fullest. So if she finds pleasure mating with a female what has that got to do with God?

I was dumbfounded!

But after discussing at length with her something happened!

Ken4Christ:
I used such harsh words on him because he has consistently resisted the truth of God's word and permit himself as a tool to turn people away from the truth. Jehovah Witness organization are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

See confirmed blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31-32

You can't present any group practicing what Jesus taught yet the only group performing globally {Matthew 7:16-18} you accredited the fine WORKS {James 2:18-26} they're doing to the devil! Isaiah 5:20

You're the WORSTEST among Satan's agents!

tctrills:
Jesus Christ was Jehovah from day one. He is the Jehovah in the old testament. You claim to be his witness but you don't know who you witness?

So the father is also the Son shey?

Thanks for your time!

Aemmyjah:
Truth has tormented him

When they hear real preaching hen, ọmọ they will kill Jesus again and again and again.

They thought it was all these sweet talks their pastors are telling them that made Jews hate Jesus with passion!

immanuelsize:
@op jokanem, young man, i have questions for you, do you practice other things in the bible? Why must you preach about gambling? Don't you see other things to preach? Better mind the type of preaching and comparison you making with the bible. Na your dey carry bible for head yet, never practice it.
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admin, seun, just close this thread. It doesn't worth discussing.

Gambling is a crime from God's standpoint!

It promotes greed in the society all you need is thorough explanation to understand the matter, that is if you want to know.

What set apart believers in Christ from others?

It's the tag that they are willing to forgo their ambitions and put on the thoughts of Christ for the rest of their lives.
That's what the thief was willing to do before Jesus gave him a direct Visa to Paradise {Luke 23:43} that criminal never became perfect but he will after a thousand years training under Christ's reign in Paradise on earth!

tctrills:
You keep bringing up this your demigod doctrine. You say there is a difference between the father and the child but you forget that the children grow up to become Fathers. That is what it means to be God's heirs. Again Jesus Christ is the true Jehovah

If Adam was created in God's image does that make Adam Jehovah? Genesis 1:26

Well the Bible called Adam God's Son too {Luke 3:38} perhaps he has grown up to become Jehovah!

tctrills:
Everything you say is out of place. It does not matter if Moses or Jesus Christ were God's of their own or if they were made God's. That's not even an argument. Why do you think it's even important. At least it seems you are slowly coming around and you can now see that Jesus Christ is God.
I don't have a problem if Moses was made a God. A son of a God would become a God. So I don't see your point. The bible says we are heirs so we inherit God's nature. We also would become like him. So what's your point.

If we're all sons of God and the son of God will become a God then that makes all humans Gods shey?

Well the point here is clear there's a difference between father and child so all other intelligent beings are demigods the one and only true God is JEHOVAH!

Deluded Churchgoer!

Ken4Christ:
I will really love to watch how you will weep and gnash your teeth in hell since you don't want to repent. Your founders, Rutherford and Russell are already there waiting for gullible souls like you to join them.

tctrills:
The verse proves nothing, so if God days he made Moses a God how does that affect Jesus? What is really your point. God made Moses a God how does that affect who Jesus Christ is. Please explain how making Moses a God relates to Jesus Christ?

Moses is one of God's worshipers just as Jesus so if God said He made Moses God yet Moses remains a worshiper of God and the same happened to Jesus who WAS also God and did worship God then what the scripture said at Deuteronomy 18:18 is fulfilled in the life of Jesus of Nazareth.

Here is what God's word said:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18

Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus of Nazareth is the one God was referring to in that verse! Act 3:19-23

Now the concluding part of that scripture said

Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:19

Here God is telling the Israelites that whoever among them that reject this prophet will not be forgiven. You can confirm that in the Bible book of John 3:16-18

So it's the same GOD that made both Moses and Jesus God they were never Gods on their own! John 5:19

tctrills:
How do you know all God's are mighty. You just keep saying anything

The reason why people call anything GOD is because of the extraordinary power if it's just the normal ability found in all other creatures no one will refer to them as GOD.
So mighty means powerful and in the case of Gods they exert extraordinary power humans can't imagine!

There are many Gods {1Corinthians 8:5} but there is only one who is SUPREME (Almighty) while all others are mighty (powerful)

The true God is the author of life who created all including those given power to partake in the process procreation.

The secret is that it's only the true God that has the sole authority to direct all His creation to the person they must obey as ruler (demigod) but fallen angels have made themselves Gods in different parts of the earth under the chairmanship of Satan the devil {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} this is why people in different parts of the earth are worshiping these fallen angels as gods and since these fallen angels won't tell those worshiping them the truth about the Creator they become false gods.

Gods like Moses and Jesus were appointed by the Almighty {Exodus 7:1 compare to John 1:18} they told all their followers the truth about the one and only true God! Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29

So unlike the fallen angels who chose humans as their own demigods to rule over their worshipers the Almighty never empower any imperfect human as demigod over His own worshipers except Jesus of Nazareth {Matthew 17:5} as for Moses he was chosen as a demigod over Pharaoh of Egypt who knew him from childhood like his cousin, Moses was to prove to Pharaoh that all the Gods in Egypt are powerless in the presence of the God that sent him to deliver the Israelites.
But since Jehovah is not visible to Pharaoh {Exodus 5:2} the true God made Moses His representative to serve as a demigod before Pharaoh! Exodus 7:1

So don't get it twisted Moses and Jesus aren't the Almighty God but demigods who render sacred services to the Almighty God.
Unlike human Kings who are serving as demigods to fallen angels Moses and Jesus aren't false Gods because they openly declared that they were sent by the one and only true God!

tctrills:
Just so you know, mighty and demi are basically word and opposite

Ọmọ all gods are mighty whether demi or not.

The only difference is Almighty who has power over all other Gods! Psalms 83:18

tctrills:
In fact, at a point in our discussion, your brother Janosky claimed that Jesus Christ is an ex God. He said like Moses was a God for a while, Jesus Christ was also a God for a period.
So the JW position is as follows.
1. Jesus Christ is a demigod
2. Jesus Christ is a Godlike deity
3. Moses is a Godlike deity
4. Jesus Christ is an ex God
5. Jesus Christ is not a God

On the other hand, the bible position
1. The word was God.
2. He is the mighty God.

Anyhow you feel like putting it just know that Jesus is not the Almighty God. Simple!

tctrills:
You mean the bible did not call Jesus Christ the mighty God? You mean the bible did not say that the word was God? But it's not clear to only JWs

Well there are many sects claiming Christians who disagree with you that Jesus is the Almighty God. Of course he once served as God just like Moses! Exodus 7:1

You see that verse (Exodus 7:1) has rendered your idea useless because if God Almighty said He made Moses a God then Jesus was also made a God by the one he always pray to!

tctrills:
Oga, your bible called Jesus Christ a God not a demigod. I understand you think the bible is wrong but some of us don't.

If the Bible clearly stated so nobody will argue it but it wasn't so you can't impose what isn't clearly stated each person will have to stand on his or her own personal opinion.

tctrills:
First Jesus Christ told you that all power in heaven and earth has been given to him. Secondly the argument is not between mighty or Almighty. We are discussing if Jesus Christ is a God and you guys think the bible is wrong.

Out of those been called God a superior GAVE Jesus the authority and will still collect it back from him! 1Corinthians 15:27-28

So Jesus still remains a demigod not the Almighty!

tctrills:
You brother Janosky called Moses a deity and you call Jesus Christ a demigod. You guys are so funny.

Both means the same thing!

tctrills:
Oga a demigod is Greek mythology. The bible and Christianity is a different religion. The bible recognize Jesus Christ as God. I understand you guys don't stick to the bible but if you stop inventing your own religion and stick to the revealed word it would do you God.

Ọmọ the Bible never stated in anywhere that "Jesus is God" so comparing verses from one scriptures to another is what you're doing just as i to said Moses WAS God! Exodus 7:1