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AgentNairaland:
I think you need to revisit your dictionary, stop being ignorant do as I said

Ignorant of your open lies that people must stop making use of medicines shey?

cornelboy:
Physicians use medicines.

My brother, they're worried over the deceit as their own pastors and church members will deny them regarding the use of medicines!

AgentNairaland:
The question says is it in Psalms 104:14 root is mentioned you jumped to Revelation, is leaf and root the same? You need to revisit your dictionary

Ọmọ nobody cares about your opinion, that is my own FAITH, go and use your miracles to cure your own people!

AgentNairaland:
Is it in your own Bible roots is mentioned in Psalms 104:14?

Go and cure your people with your miracles i am OK with my HERBS and ROOTS!

And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of its main street. On both sides of the river were trees of life producing 12 crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations!



Revelations 22:1-2

Maynman:
I address people the same way they address me, then they come back and start acting victim like a little bitc.h.
I don’t conclude anything, take it easy with FALSEHOOD, my friend!
You are the one assuming, making baseless claims and doing all the conclusions yourself now, and you’ve FAILED terribly reading “people’s heart” , listen to your advice
You mentioned THEOcracy.
Do you know what “THEO” means?

I will hold onto the highlighted so whenever you address me rudely i will remind you of this because i never for once addressed you rudely before you started calling me "MAD"

So let's close this for some other times now i'll love to believe that you'll keep your own words until then, farewell!

Maynman:
Where is it written boldly?
What if they are saying there are Gods, why one god?

Let's settle on one before moving to another!

You've always addressed people rudely on the forum and it's because you've concluded in your mind that they deliberately chose to hide from what you know as facts, not so?

That's what READING people's hearts mean.

You run a conclusion that they're hiding from facts yet you're just discussing with them.

In like manner how do you decipher when someone claims he/she believes in the existence of God yet lying?

Maynman:
ATHEIST is a greek word that means without god(s),god is called THEO in greek referring mostly to GREEK GODS, heard of THEOlogy or THEOgony?
The “A” means without, the “Theist(theos)” means god(s).
Opposite of A’THEIST IS THEIST NOT BELIEVERS.
Most politicians are THEISTS!

You mentioned THEOcracy.
Do you know what “THEO” means?

Let's take things step by step!

So whether such a person is born, bread and brought up in a religious family or not what is deep down in his/her heart written boldly there is "there is NO God" shey?

OK what if everyone around him/her are saying "there is God" how can you decipher what he/she really had in mind when he joins in saying the same thing?

HarlequinLekex:
DTruthSpeaker

MaxInDHouse
terrezo2002
righteousness2

John is not Elijah!

Jesus taught so many things in parables, God's word say:

“Look! I am sending to you E·liʹjah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers, so that I may not come and strike the earth" Malachi 4:5-6

Due to this scripture most Jews expected the return of Elijah in person but Jesus made them realize that it's not Elijah they will see rather it's another prophet having the same attitude as Elijah {Matthew 11:14} only Jesus' disciples agreed with this 98% of Jews disagree with what Jesus said so they're still waiting for Elijah in person!

Maynman:
You mentioned THEOcracy, do you know what that REALLY means?
If you are using your human brain you’ll know, Most Politicians are theists, they believe in god and even gods, because they don’t believe in your own particular Israelite deity and they are not BELIEVERS doesn’t make them atheist.
Theists have different ways of viewing god and gods.
We even have religious countries with their own religion laws.
IS IT NOT FROM THE MASSES THAT WE CHOOSE POLITICIANS FROM??
Hitler was a THEIST!
https://www.nairaland.com/7353552/hitler-theist
Stop your falsehood and deal with FACTS not emotions

Perhaps this won't work if we don't define the word "ATHEIST" first. So lets know the real meaning of the word "ATHEIST"

The Old Testament!

A powerful spirit being claimed He is the Almighty, proved His worth by journeying to the world's most powerful nation in ancient times and singlehandedly freed multitude of slaves without a military force then led them to conquer and occupied a region around Asia minor. He later imposed His standard on them and demanded that defaulters be put to death without fail. The generation of His original slaves died and the next generation met only stories so this Spirit decided to punish the faithless generation by allowing other nations to carry them away into slavery and by the time they return this Spirit told them He is keeping them together just to fulfill a promise which He made to His friend Abraham.

New Testament!

A child is born who happens to be the promised SEED this Spirit foretold, he taught his people that the standard their forefathers knew will be restored but then that can only work when this Spirit does exactly what He did with Egypt, He will have to come with the angels to destroy all rebellious humans and establish what He laid down through ancient Israelites, that time it will not be just a portion of the earth but globally.
Until then all humble and obedient people must prove they're in support of this Spirit by voluntarily campaigning in their neighbourhood about this Spirit and His right to rule!

Maynman:
You see, you don’t even know the origin of the word “politician”.
You need to leave emotions and use logic.

You are using a forged christian book to defend your religion and deities.
Even in the forged books, we saw how david used his fighters to rule over other people’s wife.
Not to forget, his existence is not verifiable from any source other than the Old Testament created from unknown sources.

THEOcracy, hope you know what THEO means? It’s a greek word that stand for god(s), a good example is the Olympian gods!

Other “religionists” can also use that same logic by quoting their book and using their THEOS, very easy.

For your infornation, Israelites are cannanites, and they have always had “human kings.”

I never wanted to involve the Bible in our talk it's you that mentioned "David" and i explained.
So don't quote books let's use our human brains and what is common in the world we live.
Politicians don't believe in any god they only support whoever has gained favour in the eyes of the masses and when they are done with that one they begin demanding for their turn to rule. They are smarter athiests they don't believe in any deity!

Maynman:
Who is the “world”?
Is it not from the “world” that politicians comes from?
You definitely don’t know what “terrorist” from terrorism mean!
Is king david, Solomon not a politician, a terrorist?
Easy with the falsehood.

You see where you got things wrong?

Well the rulers CHOSEN by God to maintain his laws aren't politicians but leaders under the THEOCRATIC system established by the God of Israel.

POLITICIANS need the support of fighters to gain control but in the case of David and Solomon they never dreamt of becoming rulers in Israel neither did David come any close to the rank when God sent Samuel to anoint him.

David never need the support of Israelites to rule because it's God's standard he is willing to uphold. For your information the Israelites decided to have a human king in order to do away with rules that seems to strict for them, their thoughts is that a human ruler will make mistakes and so the strict rules will gradually die naturally.

Maynman:
I know you don’t know what you are talking about. You don’t have to use falsehood and baseless claims to promote your deity.

Just know that those forcing their opinion on others aren't BELIEVERS but smarter athiests disguising as religionists!

Maynman:
Your example of boko haram is so OFF POINT.
Did we start having politicians yesterday? Bwahahahah

Well the world has known politicians for ages but it's after they've gained ground that they put on soft faces when they're struggling for power they're the real terrorists!

Maynman:
Once a Chinese becomes a politician, he automatically becomes a theist?
Cause who is the chinese? And who are the atheists?
Is it not the atheist that will later become a Chinese politician?
Atheism has nothing to do with intelligence just as theism has nothing to do with stupidity.

Trump has always been against lesbians and gays before he got into office. Can you show where he solicited for gay and lesbians before he got into office?
And how does your statement got to do with trump been an atheist, even the pope and some Pentecostal churches supports lgbtq rights.
And also during trump first election, most lgbtq voted MASSIVELY for hilary, and yet trump WON!

There are hundreds of religion that supports lgbtq, do you know what “atheism and theism” means?
Christianity is not the opposite of atheism, so if your religion especially your doctrine, out of other hundreds of religion and doctrines doesn’t support lgbtq that doesn’t make other religion atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/7433608/church-england-paves-way-same-sex

I know this will be really difficult for you to grasp but with time you will understand better!

Maynman:
Is your point of view not also as a result of how you view certain things?? Bwahahahah
If I’m viewing things the way general people view things, what then will cause the quarrelling?
It’s you with your secluded view that will cause quarrelling among everyone around you.

You ain’t making any point because you don’t even know what you are talking about.
You just joining so many things together base on emotions and zero facts.
Religionist is a person that practice religion, theism means beliefs in theos(gods), when you use emotions instead of logic you don’t know what you are talking about.
Atheism means non belief in theos(gods)
Before using your vision, you should first use the brain.

Who are you to say islam is not about faith in God, you are making baseless claims.
“God” is an English word and in arabic language it’s translated to allah.
Each religion has the way they view their god and godS.
Your New Testament and Old Testament wasn’t written in English but in Hebrew and greek, what is “god” translated in those languages?

Another baseless claim, china is an atheist countries, with religion accounting for less than 20%. Each family doesn’t have their gods, why are so comfortable with FALSEHOOD?
If each family in china are theists, and the politicians too are theist, what makes them “smart atheists”? Isn’t that contradiction bwahahahah
Can you send me an article were they concluded that it's better to keep their numerous gods out of their politics” in what century?

Can you also send me any article of politicians using islam to hijack china and in what century?
or send me one muslim politician name using islam to hijack power, you are just talking vague, because the last thing i heard about islam, muslims are been sent to concentration camp.
Heard of Uyghurs muslims?


Because you want to promote your deity and religion you don’t have to lie about other deities and religion.
Apart from falsehood and baseless claims, don’t your religion work with facts and evidence?

You are looking at things from the surface my friend!

When Boko Haram first came to Nigeria they were tagged "TERRORIST" but when they capture any city or town do they continue killing the people?

NO!

They established their system of rule!

When there is a coup in any country the soldiers kill people who may object to their system of rule but after they've subdued they will introduce their leader who will mount the seat and establish their system of rule.

So you can't see the politicians until their plan to topple the government is successful!

Maynman:
Theism doesn’t deal with just god, it deals with gods and they are numerous.
We have different gods inside theism with different concepts of how they view it.
Once again, Christianity is not the opposite of atheism.
Christianity is just one of the religion under theism.
In arabic countries they practice islam, and they are not “believers”.
China is an atheist country, inside those atheists, a politician is been made.
We have muslims countries that the religion is islam by default, they don’t need to use “religion” for anything.
Most crimes in the world are committed by theists.
I’m yet to see your point.

The reason why it's difficult for you to see my point is your view of certain things. If you're viewing things the way people in general views it you won't get the clearer picture hence you will start quarrelling with everyone around you!

You classify all religionists under that word "THEISM" that alone has blurred your vision because you won't see the difference when an atheist claims he/she is a believer in God.

Islam is not about faith in God but the idea of ruling over your neighbour forcefully in the name of religion.

Chinese have countless gods with each family having their own god so since the gods differs they have to conclude that it's better to keep their numerous gods out of their politics, politicians claiming islamists have tried to hijack power by introducing Islam in China and by so doing brainwash their people telling them that there is just one God and that one God is the one the politician (Muslim) worships so to avoid all that nonsense China introduced their new system that says keep your god in your house when coming to political offices.

With that no politician can use the tool RELIGION to gain fame any more in China!

advocatejare:

Ever since Templee exposed your demonic JW cult for what it is and you the members for who you are, i stopped taking you seriously. I only feel pity for you, you left the frying pan Islam into the fire of demonic cult.

https://www.nairaland.com/7296359/experience-jehovahs-witnesses-organization


May God have mercy on your soul

It's OK continue deceiving yourself wasting your time on what is not profitable.
For your information Templee is an atheist and as for the label given to God's organization that's a welcome development:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

You're traveling to where you've never been before (Salvation) you can see people who also say they're going to the same place (countless religions claiming denominations in Christendom) with the same map in their hands (Bible) but instead of you to concentrate on reaching your destination since those with the map are contradicting themselves (countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines) you stopped by only to make stories about those without the authentic map (Bible)

Well i wish you the best in your endeavour!

Maynman:
How come “politicians are the smartest atheists” now?

The spiritual man (Christian) reads and listens to the hearts of the speaker or writer while the physical man only read and listen to what he hears or found written.

Atheism simply means lack of belief in God but politicians pledges to make life better for their people whereas the obstacle is there waiting for them as each member of the ruling council comes in with different mindsets, how are they going to succeed with their vows?

That's why they use all means to get to the office just to dominate their fellowman:

ELOQUENCE
FITNESS
BEAUTY
MONEY
WEAPONS
RACISM

and

RELIGION! All these are different types of tools in the hands of politicians but most of these tools are becoming obsolete that why the politicians are drifting to the last but most effective tool: RELIGION
With this tool millions are brainwashed into giving the politician unwavering support blindly all in the name of GOD but in the heart of each politician they know that those following them are fools because the politician will dine and wine with the most contemptible set of people to the gods they profess as long as such gathering will promote their political careers.

So are they believers or SMARTER ATHEISTS?

Maynman:
The same you said china politicians are theists, how come?

Chinese outsmarted the atheists using religion as cover to gain followers. They know you and know how intelligent you're that's why they voted you into the office. So use your brains which made them voted you in office and don't bring your idea of some God that cannot be questioned when you fvck up.

That's the idea.


But in other countries the atheist will claim he believes in some god yet he will be soliciting for support from people who are nonentities in the face of the god he professed.

For instance Donald Trump campaigned and was voted in but got into the office and started attacking gays and lesbians who voted him into the office claiming his God doesn't support their practices.

Do you think if he had told them this before hand Americans will vote him at all?

Well his stupidity caught up with him and they voted him out in the next election!

advocatejare:
You and this your know-it-all attitude!
Follow your style and leave me to follow my style, you can’t tell me which style to follow.
Which religion tries to water down the work of salvation that Christ did as much as Islam? No religion except Islam. Islam uses mixture of truth and falsehoods to confuse gullible christians and many have been made to believe that we are worshipping the same God when in the real sense, Islam doesn’t worship the true God of the universe. But tht is what Satan wants you to believe so that you can get derailed and lose your salvation. Islam denies the Sonship of Jesus’ Christ. Islam denies the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the death that brought redemption to mankind and the resurrection that brought defeat to Satan and his kingdom. Islam call Jesus liar by saying that all the lies muhammad came to say 600 years after Christ’s death and resurrection are the truth. All the teachings of Muhammad were direct opposite of Christ’s!
Muhammad broke all the 10 commandments!
The moment you believe in the teachings of Islam, you are against Christ and his works of salvation. So I implore you to face your own business and leave me to continue my own.
Anyways your JW cult is no different from Islam as both are known for falsehoods, fake prohecies and brainwashing doctrines!

The problem with people like you is lack of understanding. God's word clearly say:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

This popular scripture has removed Islam from the scene but it's just a pity that only JWs understand this scripture.
Well let me substantiate on this verse perhaps any practicing Muslim has a chance of Salvation.

Through Adam all humans have sinned and death is the portion of mankind {Romans 5:12} God arranged for redemption of obedient mankind that another perfect human should pay for what Adam lost {1Corinthians 15:45} that is what Jesus came to do {Mark 10:45} but this arrangement doesn't bring automatic gain rather each human needs to prove that he has abandoned the criminal father (Adam) and accepted the new father (Jesus) who will last forever {Isaiah 9:6} to prove this we must put away the Old personality we got through Adam and put on the New Personality {Ephesians 4:22-24} which Jesus taught us through his thoughts, words and actions! 1Peter 2:21

Please tell me in what way can anyone who has been taught that Jesus is just one of the prophets could make use of this golden opportunity?

I was a Muslim and it's until JWs taught me this that i believe in Jesus so instead of all these wasted energy of arguing about one out of thousands of false religions why not focus on the one and only true religion?

You're like a teacher who supposed to teach his students what the original money can do so they can work to earn it but instead you concentrated on a particular fake currency trying to prove it false whereas all what your students need to know are the features of the legal tender and how to earn it!

Dtruthspeaker:
If you say "politics is domination', is domination not imposition? Mo ti nlọ!

Good!
It simply means some only want to impose their opinion on others that has nothing to do with BELIEF!

zoer:
Thank you

You're welcome Sir!

zoer:
When you dey give them back to back. You are really exposing the fraud call Islam and wish to read more from you

When Jesus walked this planet he taught his disciples so many things about pure worship and how the Jewish leaders of his time failed to uphold God's standard but turned it into some type of laughable stuff. Matthew 15:6

Jesus knew all the false religions on this planet because he is the one who created all things and he's been working with his father to restore sanity on the planet and as for the fallen angels backing false religions Jesus knew them all so there's no religion on this planet that Jesus can't tell you how it started. But instead of making so much stories over false religions and the things demons are doing both in heaven and on earth Jesus focused on what you and i needed most which is CHRISTIANITY.

LESSON LEARNED!

It's a good thing to expose falsehood but then it's worthless arguing on what has nothing to do with pure worship, the only reason Jesus talked about falsehood in religion is because the Jews brought it into God's temple in Jerusalem otherwise it's none of Jesus' concern if it has nothing to do with Jerusalem's temple the center of pure worship back then.

So i'll advice you to concentrate more on what those claiming Christians aren't getting right and forget about Islam, it's just one out of thousands other religions. For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that all those exercising faith in him may not perish but live forever {John 3:16} no doubt you know this popular scripture but most don't get the vital point in it.

If you want salvation concentrate on the religions claiming "Jesus is the Son of God" that is where Satan can confuse many not Islam that you already know as a dead religion since they're not EXERCISING FAITH in God's only begotten Son. For your information fake dollar is the most produced today by fraudsters. Why? Because it's the money that belongs to the most powerful nation in the world. That's exactly how Christianity could be defined. Satan knew the only true religion that's why he created tens of thousands fake religions all claiming denominations under one umbrella.

That's my piece of advice, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

hopefulLandlord:
"Theocracy is the worst of all governments. If we must have a tyrant, a robber baron is far better than an inquisitor. The baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity at some point be sated; and since he dimly knows he is doing wrong he may possibly repent.
But the inquisitor who mistakes his own cruelty and lust of power and fear for the voice of Heaven will torment us infinitely because he torments us with the approval of his own conscience and his better impulses appear to him as temptations."

C.S. Lewis, "A Reply to Professor Haldane" (1946)

Your professor is WRONG!

Theocracy is the best system of government but since people like you can't differentiate between THEOCRACY and AUTOCRACY the professor's comment make sense to you.

What you people misconstrued for THEOCRACY is AUTOCRACY in which the ruler is given unlimited power to do and undo while all the subjects are made to believe their ruler knows it all. But THEOCRACY is a form of government that's fair to one and all nobody is treated badly or unjustly under THEOCRATIC rule because the orders is from a perfect mind which is the SUPREME BEING: GOD

Nobody is above the law so the one sitting on the throne under THEOCRATIC rule is also subjected to the laws the power given him could be scored through pros and cons of the rule itself. So in no way is such a ruler a tyrant unlike the autocratic leader to whom everyone looks as if he/she is perfect whereas he/she is just human (fallib[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=118399086]Your professor is WRONG!

Theocracy is the best system of government but since people like you can't differentiate between THEOCRACY and AUTOCRACY the professor's comment make sense to you.

What you people misconstrued for THEOCRACY is AUTOCRACY in which the ruler is given unlimited power to do and undo while all the subjects are made to believe their ruler knows it all. But THEOCRACY is a form of government that's fair to one and all nobody is treated badly or unjustly under THEOCRATIC rule because the orders is from a perfect mind which is the SUPREME BEING: GOD

Nobody is above the law so the one sitting on the throne under THEOCRATIC rule is also subjected to the laws the power given him could be scored through pros and cons of the rule itself. So in no way is such a ruler a tyrant unlike the autocratic leader to whom everyone looks as if he/she is perfect whereas he/she is just human (fallible) like everyone else!

Dtruthspeaker:
As sharia imposes their belief so does America impose their unbelief.
In the end, we see man doing whatever he likes and someone receiving his injustice in the power of legal.

Nobody is imposing beliefs it's politics which is domination! Ecclesiastes 8:9

LordReed:
Wow. Did someone hijack this account? LoLz. Kudos anyway, couldn't have said it better.

Now you know the difference between a true Christian and a churchgoer!

OK!

Maynman:
Religious countries have blaspheming laws, secular countries don’t, so what will secular countries consider as “blaspheming” before they legally deal with the person?

Blasphemy can't be justified again after the Jews scattered!
Blasphemy could only make sense if the God in question does something incredible, such a God can impose on the worshipers certain rules that mustn't be broken.
For instance the Israelites were slaves in the land of Egypt for centuries until the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who called them "His people" singlehandedly went there to free them.
Logically such a deity has every right to impose His standard on this people now that they are His own property. But is there any as in ANY other god that has done something close to that?
So any religion pointing to what the God of Abraham did with the Israelites should provide reasons why their god should demand such from people. Jesus did not impose God's laws on his generation because he knew that such can't be justified anywhere. Therefore instead of imposing what God told Moses (who was one of those that witness the Exodus) Jesus told his own disciples never to impose his rules on anyone {Luke 9:52-56} because such can only be justified when the so called deity has proof of ownership over the people!

Wilgrea7:
The persecution of unbelievers is something that stems from the alleged instructions of certain Gods in the Bible/Quran.
The Abrahamic God is the one who allegedly made these laws

MISCONCEPTION!

The God of Abraham never forced His laws on anyone but it takes thorough meditation for a reader to grasp this fact!

1Sharon:
Imagine if Nigerians directed that energy and hate towards atheists, towards their politicians .

Politicians are the smartest atheists!

Dtruthspeaker:
You expect to get just is from legal? You are joking!

As long as they're not imposing their unbelief on others they're free to live but sometimes imperfect go to the extreme.
That's where politics comes to play, if each person should stand on his own nobody will support anyone to impose any barbaric rule on our fellowman.
If you choose to subject yourself to some forms of rules that's your cup of coffee but it's evil forcing such rules on others!