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sonmvayina:
Lol..very very funny
So Sarah was impregnated by a spirit .
At least Sarah had a husband..
So how can active force just came and Mary just missed her period..
Hmm, how do you even explain these to anybody when you go knocking from door to door..

Dtruthspeaker:
First proof!
The Law of After its own kind (The Laws in Genesis)
"A good tree must bear good fruit and an evil Tree must bear evil fruit" Mathew 7:17.
So how does a man catch a woman who has cheated on him?
Answer: Through the child (fruit) born of the adultery.
Without doubt, Cain, the fruit, is evil, therefore, his father, the Tree, must be evil.
Therefore, who was the evil person in the garden with whom Eve could have cheated with? Only one evil person, Satan.

Dtruthspeaker:
Proof 2.
Natural living has shown that women never listen nor obey strangers. It always a person with whom they are 'very much close' and familiar with that they listen to.
Apart from her husband Mr Adam, who was the other person with whom she became familiar with?
Answer: Satan Again!
There wasn't any other person in the garden as the record showed.

PoliteActivist:
This is totally untrue.
The Bible was long b4 Koran:
Gen. 1 Verse 26
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

KnownUnknown:
lol, my favorite "Jesus style of teaching" is when he was asked to explain himself but instead insulted the people and called them "children of their father, the devil" or when he spews nonsense about where the wind goes.

Lukuluku69:
Let leave Prophet Muhammad out of this for now. So, what you are saying is that there is no turning back from an erring ways with your Assembly? Jesus did not condemn that woman taken in Adultery you know?

sonmvayina:
Lol..
I can understand the rest, but god impregnating another man's wife.. I can't even fathom it...

Lukuluku69:
Oga Intelligence Officer, so going contrary to what Jesus taught should ordinarily lead to suicides?
E de beru Olohun.

Dtruthspeaker:
Satan corrupted it by sleeping with Mrs Adam

KnownUnknown:
And he was so in love with his image that he fuckd it, impregnated it, then killed it. All for his own amusement.

KnownUnknown:
I have no qualms with him. I’m wondering why you draw the line at the Hebrew god impregnating a virgin when descriptions of him are very human like.
Numbers 31 is my personal favorite. What’s far fetched about “the lord” fucking a virgin?

KnownUnknown:
Lmao

dattaswami1:
Human incarnation results when unimaginable God merges with imaginable devoted soul selected by God for the sake of some important work to be done in the world for the welfare of the souls. The process of the merge of unimaginable item with an imaginable item is also unimaginable. Only the process between two imaginable items existing in this imaginable creation is imaginable. For example, gold and copper are imaginable items. Both these metals merge homogenously to form a solid solution, which looks like one item (gold), but when viewed through microscope, both metals appear as different atoms. This means the merge to become one item is only external, but, the merge internally reveals that both these imaginable items did not become one item in the actual sense. This state (externally as one item, but, internally as two items) exists for anybody as the constant uniform single state. Regarding the case of unimaginable God merging with imaginable soul, the process of merge is unimaginable due to the omnipotence of God.
The human incarnation will appear simultaneously to different human beings in three states:-
1) As 100 % God if the devotee is with 100% faith.
2) As mixture of God and human soul in various proportions like solid solution of gold and copper according to various proportions of faith and doubt of the devotee and
3) As 100% human soul if the devotee has no faith. Krishna appeared in these three states simultaneously to Vidura, Dhrutaraashtra and Duryodhana in the same time while giving cosmic vision in the court. Since devotees like Vidura are very very rare, I mentioned the second and third states only in the view of majority of devotees, who have partial faith or no faith. The first state is Monism of Shankara, the second state is inseparable dualism (like gold and copper in solid solution) of Ramanuja and the third state is separable dualism (like two different blocks of gold and copper).
This is told in the Gita that God results as per the view of the devotee (ye yathā mām…). Based on the worldly logic of imaginable items existing in the imaginable creation, we shall not discuss the state of unimaginable and omnipotent God.

sonmvayina:
Why should I believe god impregnated another man's wife to sire a son?

Blue86:
Are you a JW?

dattaswami1:
Answer:
An Industrialist created a factory in which inanimate items and non-inanimate workers exist. The factory is His property. All the workers need not be good and disciplined. The owner comes to the factory every day to supervise the workers. The owner is visiting His own property. Is there something abnormal in this? If the owner is visiting the factory of somebody else, we may be interested to know the reason. Moreover, some employees desire to see the owner everyday to discuss with him about their doubts face to face. The owner feels that face to face talks are more effective than talking over phone. The presence of the owner inspires them to work more efficiently.

Similarly, this creation is done by God Himself and this creation is His personal property. He has every right to visit and supervise His own property. He is not visiting the creation of somebody else. There is a special satisfaction among ardent devotes to see Him, to talk with Him directly for clearing their doubts, to touch His feet and serve Him and to spend their life time with Him. God also feels happy to satisfy them and feels that His personal visit will inspire them more in their spiritual progress. Hence, God visits this creation frequently in the form of human incarnations. God is called as ‘Pashupati’ (owner of animals like cows, buffaloes, bulls, donkeys etc.) and we must note that the human being is said to be a social animal.

AntiChristian:
God needs not visit humans to know them! God knows everything even before they existed! My own questions are why your God wasn't kind enough to forgive Adam but decided to make others inherit the sin but not his good? And why did your God have to come and die for the same sin he ought to have forgiven and forgot?

AntiChristian:
Is this what I asked you?
You lied i am following my parents religion and i asked which of my parents religion?
Abeg answer jáwé!

AntiChristian:
Which of parent's religion am I fighting for if i may ask? Your gibberish is getting worse!

RussellRutherfo:
Jehovah witness religion is one of strange religion from Occultism and Satan.

dattaswami1:
The hell exists in the space far above our earth, which can be seen only by the grace of God. The reason is that the souls embedded in the energetic bodies reaching hell for punishments and the divine administration staff including the entire hell is made of energy, which has frequency far above the reachable frequency of the electromagnetic spectrum. The concept of hell will give some control on the sin, which is very much advantageous to anybody. If the faith on the existence of the hell shades away, your future will be very serious and I assuredly tell all of you about this point.

You may argue that I cannot take you into the space and show the existence of the hell to you. But, at the same time you cannot also take Me into this infinite space up to its boundary and show Me the non-existence of the hell. In such case, the hell may exist or may not exist. Both the options have equal probability. In such case, a wise person will select the probability of lesser risk, which is to believe the existence of hell. If you are careful in not doing the sins, based on your faith in the existence of hell, nothing is lost even if the hell is absent.

If you take other option to disbelieve the existence of hell and go on doing the sins, you are lost if the hell exists. Therefore, the first option is always far better than the second one. You need not believe that much only whatever is seen by you. Inference is also an authority of the knowledge in which you believe in the existence of something, which is not seen by you. The miracles exhibited by the devotees in this world prove the existence of unimaginable areas.

The Veda says that the past memory of the hell or previous birth is nipped off with the nails of God (Paraanchi Khaani...). This means that the memory in us is lost by the will of God only. The reason is that if the memory of the hell remains, the individual will just shiver with fear and will be unable to do anything or even to read the scripture. This is not desirable to God, who likes the soul to start a fresh life forgetting all the past and achieve not only the worldly goals but also spiritual goals. Similarly, if the memory of the previous births exists in the mind of the human being, such a human being will utterly confuse due to millions of family bonds that appear whenever it goes out of the house.

In such a confusion, the human being will become mad and the same situation of inactivity results. Hence, everything set-up by God has its own meaning and do not criticize God in hasty manner. A passenger suffering with heat in summer came under a huge Neem tree to rest for some time. He thought that God is foolish because the huge tree is having tiny fruits where as the tender pumpkin creeper is loaded with very big fruits. Thinking like this, he slept for some time. He awoke after some time and found the tiny fruits, which have fallen on him from the tree. Then he realized his mistake thinking that he was foolish where as God is very wise. If the huge tree has proportionally huge fruits, his head should have been broken by the fruits, which are fallen on him! Therefore, patience must be the first quality of the spiritual knowledge as said by Shankara (Shamadamaadi...).

dattaswami1:
Reformation is a golden opportunity given by God to us. It consists of three steps. The first step is related to knowledge. It is realization or jñāna yoga, which is identifying the sin through analysis. The second step is related to emotions and it involves sincere repentance before God with deep devotion to Him, which is bhakti yoga. The third and final step, is the practical step of karma yoga in which you should not repeat the same sin in your life. Many fail in the third step. It is of no use because the third step is practical and the first two steps are merely theoretical. A person can be said to be reformed only when he does not repeat the sin practically. Some clever people try to exploit this concept thinking that they will reform their souls, just before death! Such over-intelligence brings double punishment as no one can cheat God since He is omniscient!

It is perfectly correct to say that a soul cannot remain idle; simply keeping silent without doing any action. This is clearly told in the Gītā “Nahi kaścit kṣaṇamapi”. Even the Veda recommends action “Kurvanneveha karmāṇi…”. God never asks you to become inactive like an inert stone. Such inactivity is not only impossible but is also useless in the spiritual path. You have to learn both activity and inactivity in life. Inactivity should be applied in the context of doing or even desiring to do a sin.

In other words, one should avoid doing or even desiring to do a sin. Activity should be applied by ordinary human beings following pravṛtti in doing good deeds that help society. Activity should be applied by exceptional devotees following nivṛtti in doing God’s work. The Gītā stresses on both activity and inactivity in the context of these two separate paths respectively. In both these paths, you should do the work without getting attached to the fruit due to selfishness. When you are detached from the fruit of the work, you can do the work perfectly by concentrating your entire energy on the work (Karmaṇyevādhikāraste—Gītā).

Devotees like Śaṅkara, Meera etc. jumped straight to God’s work, avoiding all worldly work from their very childhood. It is a direct jump to salvation from the worldly bonds which is called as sākṣānmukti and is attained by forming a very strong bond with God. Devotees like Rāmānuja, Janaka etc., walked towards the same goal of salvation from worldly bonds passing through all the four states of life, which are known as the āśramas. This gradual walking towards the goal is called kramamukti and is applicable to the majority of human beings.

Severe Punishment Without a Serious Sin

Sometimes, we are punished here severely, even though we have not committed a sin, which is deserving of such a severe punishment. We get confused in such a situation thinking that God is cruel and a sadist. Such thinking is only due to our ignorance. In fact, the punishments for our sins are usually given only in the upper sub-world called hell. The reason is that we should not be disturbed in this sub-world called earth or Martya Loka while performing our worldly and divine duties. The upper worlds and sub-worlds are called bhoga lokas, which are places for enjoying the good and bad fruits of our deeds.

Earth, on the other hand is called a karma loka, which is a place for doing deeds. This is the general rule, but there are some exceptions to the rule. One exception is that intensive sins done here are punished here itself immediately. Another exception is that sometimes, the punishment for a sin committed in the previous birth is received here on earth. This happens in the case of killing animals for food. The killed animal thinks while dying that it too will kill the killer in the same way. So the animal of the previous birth is reborn as a butcher while the butcher and the consumers of the meat in the previous birth are born as animals and are killed by the butcher. In both these exceptions, the soul receives severe punishments here due to intensive sins committed previously in this birth or in the past birth respectively.
The case mentioned above, in which the soul is severely punished here in spite of not having done an equally severe sin in this birth, is different from the above two exceptions. In this case, since no severe sin has been done in this birth, as per the general rule, the soul should not be punished here for any sin done by it in the past birth. Why then is the soul punished here severely? This case is covered under another exceptional rule. Note that God is all-in-all. He is the Maker of the rules, and is beyond all the rules. Whenever He breaks any rule, it is only for some good purpose.

All these rules regarding a soul’s deeds and the rewards and punishments for the deeds are only for the soul’s reformation. God does not give any punishment to a soul out of revenge. He is the Doctor who is treating the patient. The soul is the patient, who is to be cured. Sometimes, God feels that a person will be benefited and his or her reformation will progress better if some punishment is given at a certain time. So, He brings to the present life, a punishment which the soul was supposed to face in a future lifetime. It is like the premature withdrawal of a deposit from a bank, which leads to a loss in the value of the deposit. So the punishment, when preponed to the present, reduces in value.
This is a benefit to the soul. Additionally, it accelerates the reformation of the soul. So, the soul gets a double benefit! This exception is made in the best interest of the soul. It is like the Supreme Doctor, God, deciding to increase the dosage of antibiotics for a patient, deviating from the regular treatment plan, to speed up the recovery of the patient. This exceptional rule, like all other rules related to the administration of the deeds of souls, clearly shows the loving kindness of God, the Divine Father for the souls, who are His children.
God gave freedom to all souls so that they could do whatever they felt was good. God helped the souls in determining what is good and what is bad by preaching to them through holy scriptures, holy devotees and holy Incarnations. Freedom means the complete freedom for all souls in this creation to act in any direction, without the slightest force on the mind, either here or in the upper worlds. God always preaches to every soul to bring the realization of the truth to the soul and to reform the soul. The soul is expected to realize and get reformed only through this knowledge introduced into the mind of the soul. It is the only way the soul can be saved. The only force used by God on the mind of a sinner is imparting knowledge. He does not use any physical force or miraculous power to reform the sinner. The king tries to reform the sinner through physical force in the form of punishment, but such reformation is only temporary. Even the horrible punishments in hell cannot reform the soul permanently. Eternal reformation can never be attained through punishment. In spite of this defect of punishment, it is still used to reform the soul temporarily. Only the spiritual knowledge given by God-in-human-form can bring an eternal reformation in a soul.

Generally, the cloud rains everywhere and the rain makes the seed present in fertile soil to grow up into a plant. But a seed fallen on rocky soil cannot give rise to a plant immediately in spite of a lot of rain. Devilish or demonic souls are like the rocks present here and there on earth. The God-cloud does not use His miraculous power to change the rocky soil into fertile soil since God never interferes with souls using any type of force. Judas was like rocky soil. But due to his association with Jesus and continuously listening to His preaching, he realized, confessed his sin, and punished himself at the end. The priests of the temple never listened to the preaching of Jesus at all and so they never got reformed. They were like solid rocks. Judas was like soil having some rocky nature. So, the seed of reformation at least germinated in him, even though it germinated late.

For a person’s reformation, apart from the divine force of spiritual knowledge, the receptivity of the person’s mind is also important. There are some good souls with high receptivity for the knowledge. They are like good soil and they get reformed immediately on listening to the spiritual knowledge preached by the Human Incarnation of God. Then there are some average souls, who are like rocky soil. They take some time to get reformed like Judas. Both these types of souls are reformed and saved. But there are some other souls like the priests who crucified Jesus, who have no hope of reformation at all. They are like solid rocks and they are condemned forever. This worst type of souls is punished in the liquid fire of hell forever. Their punishment is forever because such souls will never get reformed. They are kept aloof from mankind in the lives of wild animals, worms and so on (Tānahaṁ dviṣataḥ...—Gita). God’s attempts to reform are confined only to the first and second types of souls who are like good soil and rocky soil respectively. The moment a soul is reformed, it is saved forever.
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oneolajire:
Christian leaders, parents, mentors should be more steadfast at making the young ones know the Lord from their childhood as seen in Timothy (II Tim 3:15). They should be conscious of laying good examples, making Godly paths for the younger ones and express more love.

ObamaMessi:
I'm a very stubborn 19-yr-old boy and very troublesome. I just love violence and defying the authority seems like my daily bread. I've been sacked twice all because of my stubbornness. I've been dropped as headboy and expelled from school too. I've been poisone because I defied my mother's warning not to eat in my step-mom's house. She sometimes curse me and many people hate me because I'm stubborn and troublesome. I earned the nick name "Trouble sack" since 2017 because of that. I don't fear people at all and I once challenged a soldier in a check point when I was 17, I was beaten to stupor and until today, there's a scar on my back. My name is Victor Divine Barde, I'm from Jalingo, Taraba. Pls how do I get rid of my stubbornness? I want to receive Jesus as my personal Lord and Saviour and make my ways right with God.

mechanics:
I disagree with you.

sonmvayina:
So did your god marry Mary before impregnating her ?

VenumX:
You are talking about yourself here but you are to blind to realise it.
That's why you ran from one pedophilia sect to another. And you think Jesus acknowledges your hypocrisy as truth cause you quote and confuse yourself with edited Bible verses.

VenumX:
I told you already. Brace up.

VenumX:
But the sect you ran to hide pedophiles and you are a muslim. By their fruits indeed.

VenumX:
How many hours have you reported now? I am sure even the people that have insulted you here have been recorded as your recruits.

NemoDatQuod:
These should be conversations and conversations only. You use your power of reasoning to take someone through the logic of what is before them. Most important is the need to be respectful, very respectful to anyone you are trying to reason with, not just about this but about anything else in life. It is not everyone that will get it. Some may get it later in the future. But it's more about showing what the bible states and then let men and women of reason make an informed decision. Some of us have believed something different from what is in the scriptures all of our lives. It is difficult and challenging to wake up one day and discard those beliefs, even in the face of truth.

When you tag something negative to someone, you make it more difficult for the person to focus on what you are saying. Let respect lead.

VenumX:
Keep comparing yourself to Christ who has already rejected you for your Islamic garbage okay. Your pants are down, every one can see you for who you really are. No pretending and delusions will save you. Let that sink.