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You came to defend your colleague, i guess he was embarrassing the whole organization of Jwickedness. In context, he actually wanted me to learn that some Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God. i will be back to address your hallucinations. i have other better things to do.

When you ask us a question don't forget that our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus sends us out two by two {Luke 10:1} so when one is with you the other is also very much with you and our Lord is backing us with God's Holy Spirit anywhere we are interrogated based on our faith! Matthew 18:20 compare to Luke 12:12

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Let me just address them at once, there is no need to waste further precious time. Remove your head from deep poo and see the fact that all you have said applies to EVERY denomination including even other religions. Get some exposure or at least travel and mingle with others. Even people from the same village or local government do these things you think is only done by your cult. Ask even all these confraternities in Higher institutions(oh sorry, you don't go, my bad). They are "family" all over the world.

Good!
So how come your brethren from Russia are going to kill your brethren in Ukraine?

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Hypocrite, you and your cult are the first to condemn every single denomination apart from yours. It is your core belief that only people in your cult are going to be in paradise, yes or no?

YES! Jesus taught us that he is the way the truth and the life no one comes to his father except through him {John 14:6} so if you're wise you supposed to find out which of all the groups claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines is practicing what Jesus really taught because it's not just by calling him "Lord! Lord!" but only those doing his father's will! Matthew 7:21-23

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i have not seen any other denomination that teaches or believes that only their denomination is going to Heaven. Unfortunately, some do act that way but they don't really teach or believe that.

It's so unfortunate that you haven't heed the words of our Lord Jesus Christ when he said:
"By their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} it's out of the abundance of what their leaders infused in their brains that they're acting upon {Luke 6:45} remember action speaks louder than words!

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But Jwickedness, you act it, teach it and believe it and you are here playing ostrich? You are on your way to hell if you do not repent, i have told you that several times and i repeat it. This is clearly because you are an hypocrite, a liar, a drunkard and an immoral person.

Well Jesus supposed to be the one you're accusing here because he taught us to be as cautious as serpent and harmless as dove {Matthew 10:16} so no JW will come preaching to you that you're doomed rather we will show you all the benefits of God's kingdom in the scriptures and if you want to be part of the beneficiaries we will teach you what Jesus has commanded that we must do. It's you yourself that will judge yourself by turning away from all the good things you've heard from us and start expecting us to change what our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus commanded.
So don't think we hate you for keeping our feet on the narrow road to life because we are 100% sure that all those on the broad road are matching towards their destruction! Matthew 7:13-14

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This thread had nothing to do with your Ukraine obsession, sin did not start in February. If you are so deluded to think that you are a child of God because of Ukraine, it further justifies that your brain has being arrested and kept under lock and key in the sad hall. There are chiefest of sinners and devilish acts perpetrated farrrr before Ukraine and Russia and asides them. Stay focused and bring your head out of poo worship of your cult.

This bitterness in you doesn't change anything we are only presenting undeniable evidence of pure worship to everyone so it's left to you either to rejoice with the truth {1Corinthians 13:6} or hate us for no just course! Matthew 10:22-25

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Learn what exactly?

Learn that when Jesus said:
"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one". John 17:22

It's not just an assumption, Jesus truly meant what he said that a religious group will emerge having the same line thought {1Corinthians 1:10} so that the peaceful reign Jesus who is the Prince of Peace is coming to enforce would have been noticed in the gathering of the friends of PEACE! Isaiah 2:2-4

Therefore instead of assuming you have the same believe with people around you make sure you're not deceiving yourself as you did with the idea of Mary being the mother of God!

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Give me three benefits of what you are so particular that i should learn, thanks.

Even though we're all imperfect humans prone to committing serious blunders {1John 1:8} yet God's Holy Spirit has made it possible for humble and obedient people to form a global family of peace loving worshipers in the name of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus! Act 1:8

So the benefits!
[1] In the midst of true believers there's no discrimination whoever has accepted the same teaching we embraced has become our brother no matter where he comes from! Matthew 12:46-50
[2] If we travel outside the country where we live all we need to do wherever we go is ask for the friends of PEACE (JWs) like us and there is our home! Luke 10:6-7
[3] When there is agitation among politicians a Jehovah's Witness is safe with his/her brothers and sisters because we're no part of the world that's tumultuous due to politics! John 17:14 compare Revelations 6:3-4
May you have PEACE!

AntiChristian:
The truth?
You're just another weird christian organization advertising itself!

You're 100% right here because we are to ADVERTISE! ADVERTISE!! ADVERTISE!!! the Good News of God's Kingdom by presenting to the whole world the group that's fully prepared to welcome a peaceful reign of the Prince of Peace!

AntiChristian:
What sin did Jesus commit to be crucified?
What sin did John commit to be beheaded?
How is a person's death connected with his sin?

First of all you need to know that your question stems from the teachings of a foreign religion not what our forefathers believe so there's no need forcing what a foreign book says on everyone around you.
These questions supposed to be a blessing to everyone after it has been rightly answered not just a conclusion of what the foreign book say!

cornelboy:
Why bring age up here old man?
You don't even know my age. I might be acting it. Just say you don't have my time. Should I keep my questions till after your pending post?

As true Christians we're to reason with people who really wants to know what the future holds for obedient mankind but where someone views such questions as shooting him then it's better to just present what the Bible really teach and leave him to decide on his own.

Ever since i noticed that he sees thoughtful questions as bullets i've stopped asking him questions, i just reason along with him based on what is WRITTEN in the scriptures, yet he's so myopic that he feels everyone should prefer the idea of what they assume God can do to what the scriptures said God did.

He reminds me of the Pharisees that used to reason from their traditional dogmas and judge others for not succumbing to their assumptions.

How can everyone base our beliefs on the idea that "Jesus is the Almighty God" not because the scriptures explicitly stated it but based on the opinion that God can possibly projecting himself out of himself as his own servant then present himself to his worshipers as his own Son SENT to us?

Janosky:
Oga, stop DECEIVING yourself.
Isaiah 6:8 , God says your claim is spurious.

Instead of concentrating on what the Bible say they're trying to force their assumption on God!

"Can't God do this?"
I don't know how that should be the back up for their beliefs instead of what the scripture says!

Janosky:
NNTR passed off Empty Human philosophy as Scriptures.

It's a pity that one could be so blind to reality yet assuming he's right.
Everything i posted he keeps turning away all to write the epistle that's based on tradition of men, and when you talk about the benefits of their blind religion they will be offended!

NNTR:
Ssshhhh! People are discovering more about you from the improved questioning
Good for your lot then.
Neither do I, most of times, dont base beliefs on presumption, hence why I keep on firing questions at you
Thank you for your honest since and truthful replies to questions [3] and [4] however as regards, questions [1] and [2] where according to the Bible, does it, allegedly by you, say that. Provide bible verse where in verbatim say that:
1. Moses, is God to 'Messenger'?
2. Jesus, God to 'Messenger'?
Malachi 3:1
'“Behold, I will send My messenger, who will prepare the way before Me.
Then the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to His temple
—the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight—see, He is coming,”
says the LORD of Hosts.'
Who is an angel?
Angels, ' malakh' in Hebrew and 'angelos' in Greek, are agents sent on an errand to do something or deliver a message, call them, messengers, if you like. They can be celestial beings, meaning heavily hosts or can be terrestrial beings, meaning human beings
Do people send themselves on personal errands? Of course, capital YES, people can or do send themselves on personal errands, so implying that there's no exception to this rule
Trinity, is fit for purpose and albeit, the word itself, is non existent in the bible, the word, nonetheless, is used informally to describe the mysterious and fascinating distinguishing features of the infinite incorporeal, powerful, supreme, supernatural, influential, phenomenon Entity known as God
OK, I confess. Which is, I lied, when I alluded that, its a fact, we live in a three dimensional world. Thats not completely true because we actually, do live in a 3+1 dimensional existence, and I hope from that observation, its seen to be ludicrous to think, this God, in the real sense of His unparalleled Majesty, Serene Highness, Glory, Greatness, Matchlessness etc is subjected or limited to trinity, talkless of, a 3+1 dimensional existence
God always employs whatever we are used to, what we are familiar with, to attract our interest or attention with, uses them to transmit, share or exchange information or ideas with us. Now every physical thing on earth is represented, is identifiable with three metrics, which are: length, breadth and height, or distance, width and depth even latitude, longitude and altitude, but if you throw time, in the mix, you have the a 3+1 dimensional existence. Right now, you dont need me to say that, God is not subjected to time, and meaning, God is timeless
There is more to trinity. Trinity is a bus stop, not the bus terminus, but some jump off at the bus stop, instead of waiting to get off at the bus terminus. Is it no wonder, why the word, trinity, by divine providence, is absent in the whole of the bible.
I AM, that I AM, is signifies infinity. It imports infinitude, indicates endlessness. God can not fit, cant be squashed or roughly pushed into a trinity box and stay indefinitely in it . There is a time and place for trinity. It happens that such a time, like that, is now
Trinity does not stop God manifesting Himself in 3 ways, now, if especially, thats how our ecosystem exists and operates, then so be it. Bring it on.
Thank you very much for being a rich old good sport. Really enjoyed and loved the discussion, we eventually in the last two or so episodes got to have. We should make a habit of it more, loll.

MaxInDHouse:
Why twisting it all over again?
Well we don't base our beliefs on presumption.
According to the Bible and Our own God:
[1] authority over Pharaoh
[2] authority over sickness, death and natural forces
[3] No
[4] No
He only sends angels to represent Him always on planet earth!

Now i understand why you hate responses that's backed up with scriptural quotations, just imagine the whole epistle you put up here without a single biblical quote.
No wahala my response still remains my response anyday anytime anywhere and before anybody i will repeat it because i've got enough scriptural backings for everything!

NNTR:
Thank you for your attempt, but lets try this again in an improved way.
Please keep it short and sweet, when responding to the following questions, i.e. reply with just one word.

1. Who specifically was Moses, God to? (i.e. Note what Exodus 7:1 says)
2. Who was Jesus, God to?
3. Is God capable of projecting Himself out of His existence to externally become a human being? Yes or No?
4. Does God have the capability, ability, know how and power to exist in more than one place at the same time? Example, in His full glory exist in heaven and equally exist physically on earth, as a human being be, too. Yes or No

TRINITARIANS, whatever TRINITARIANS means, have not captured my allegiance

The trinity dogma, in a three dimensional world, that we live in is a fact, but it does not mean, it absolutely defines nor justifiably represents an infinite incorporeal supernatural supreme phenomenon being known as God

Why twisting it all over again?
Well we don't base our beliefs on presumption.

According to the Bible and Our own God:

[1] authority over Pharaoh
[2] authority over sickness, death and natural forces
[3] No
[4] No

He only sends angels to represent Him always on planet earth!

Broveens42:
You should know

If i know i won't ask!

What is the difference?

NNTR:
Please keep it short and sweet, when responding to the following questions, i.e. reply with not more than one sentence.

1. Who specifically was Moses, God to?
2. Who was Jesus, God to?
3. Is God capable of projecting Himself out of His existence to externally become a human being?
4. Does God have the capability, ability, know how and power to exist in more than one place at the same time? Example, in His full glory exist in heaven and equally exist physically on earth, as a human being be, too

According to the Bible, answers are:
[1] Messenger of God! Exodus 3:10
[2] Messenger of God! John 3:16-18
[3] He will never share His glory with anything or anyone {Isaiah 42:8} so he is always on His throne in heaven while thousands upon thousands are always rendering service to Him! Daniel 7:10
[4] He will never do such that's why He has uncountable angelic sons at his service!

TRINITARIANS may have taught you so many presumptuous things to support their trinity dogma but the Bible never present the true God that way! Isaiah 55:8-9

NNTR:
I get that 'Moses WAS God, just as Jesus WAS God. Period!', but now using your reasoning, who specifically was Moses, God to, and who was Jesus, God to?

Good and reasonable question!

The Bible answers:
Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet! Exodus 7:1

God in this context means Moses's authority will override that of the most powerful ruler in the world of that time (Pharaoh) this people are called Gods because they decide on what will be in the human society! Psalms 82:6
So how did Jesus rule as God?
During his time Jesus was given the power (authority) over all manner of sicknesses including death!
That's why Isaiah 9:6 could say one of the name he (Jesus) will be called is "Mighty God" and due to the authority given him he will be a God in the midst of the Israelites {Isaiah 7:14} that no matter the calamity Jesus has the power over it including natural forces like the sea! Mark 4:39 compare to Exodus 14:21

So the person who gave the both of them the authority is with them that's why anything they commanded will take place. The difference here is that Moses is just a human like you and i so he needs to hear God's voice before acting but Jesus is not a human like us from the beginning {John 8:23} so God communicate with him in the spirit giving him orders that only him could hear, understand and act upon it! John 8:28-29

We know Jesus is far far far greater than Moses due to his vast experience having being with God from the beginning but he is not to be worshiped, according to him we all have one father and God who is above us all! John 20:17

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Why do you sell your magazine if you really think the case between people and God has nothing to do with you? Why are you so desperate on NL if people's lives are none of your business? Were you unaware that there were several different thousand denominations in protestantism before presenting your point? Are you naive enough not to know that almost all denominations and organizations have the same line of thought in their organization? Are you so blind and myopic to think that the sun only shines on your silly halls and not all over the world from East to West?
Did you see me judge or you don't know the meaning of judgment? What gives you the idea that others have dogmas while you have doctrine? What deceives you to feel you are critically benefitted and others are not? Hypocrite.

Did Jesus go about telling people whose beliefs differs from his own that they're going to perish? Of course he taught his own followers that people who failed to embrace his teachings can't survive the end time but you people will just be spewing gibberish even when you're in the midst of people who don't share your thoughts!

The answer to all your questions is found at John 17:20-23

Only Jehovah's Witnesses can confidently say none of our members is involved in the ongoing slaughter in Ukraine today. Revelations 6:3-4

No other religious group can confidently say that because you're all scattered spiritually speaking so that during politics and racism you will pick up weapons against your so called brethren to kill him while JWs (no matter what happens) love to save lives! Mark 12:31

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You did read him, right? He's not learning from your comic books or asking questions about what he does not know.

Says you, the self-appointed spokesman!

NNTR:
1. Who was Moses told he specifically will be as God to?
2. Was Moses told he is equal to God?
3. Did Moses have the power to declare to someone and say: Your sins are forgiven?
4. If Moses was God, did he ever know what was going in Pharaoh's mind? Did he know the thoughts or any other human being for that matter?

Asking me to go and edit all the Bibles in the world to erase the above verse is a daft suggestion to make

Thanks for your comment and for waiting, life, after all, is always about waiting for the right moment to act

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Moses WAS God just as Jesus WAS God. Period!
Whatever any of them became is due to the grace of God who sent both of them so both of them were Gods at a point in their lives!

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This thing really pain you sha. You should carry the Word of God on your head, not my words and experiences like gala. Prior to this, i have not heard or noticed anyone teach that Mary is not the mother of God. Didn't notice them and can't notice them still. It's just a play of words on their side. A person that says Jesus is God should know that Mary was/is the mother of Jesus, and therefore the mother of God the Son. But that doesn't mean she should be worshipped or prayed to or idolized. She played her part and her part is undeniable except for antichrists who don't believe that God came in the flesh.
How did God come in the flesh if not through the virgin (Mary)'s birth.

Funny enough Apostle John carefully chose his words when he said:

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. John 1:14

The word who later became God in the midst of people just as Moses also became God in Egypt did not appoint himself rather he was SENT by a greater person! John 3:16

So that Jesus is not our God today but the Son of our God, and that's the way we are to accept him! John 3:17-18

AntiChristian:
Are you not tired of these lines?

No honest hearted and sincere individuals gets tired of the TRUTH no matter how bitter it is we love it because everlasting life is tied to it! John 8:32

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And how does this discovery help your life again? Have you discovered that you are a hypocrite on your way to hell? Have you discovered that Jesus Christ is supposed to be your Lord and Savior? Have you discovered that you are not ready to see God? Have you discovered that there is freedom found in Jesus? Have you discovered that you are not born again and need to be born again?

The case between me and my God has nothing to do with you Sir, but now you know that when it comes to protestantism the one and only ORGANIZED group having the same line of thought is Jehovah's Witnesses! John 17:20-23
So instead of judging others based on your dogmas why not look critically at the benefits of your dogmas? Luke 11:23

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Make a bit of sense, there is no sense with this wailing of yours. Do take heart dear.

It's OK Sir!

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Lol the hypocrite. i am not bitter with or against or about you, why should i be? You must have seen Olaa my friend and his response to your wishes. It was what i referred to as hurting your feelings that you said you felt.

If you call Olaa 'your friend' is he my own enemy?

Wahala dey for Okpoko!

AntiChristian:
Salvation is attained by the believe in Allah alone, worship Him alone as He ought to be worshipped through following the injunctions of the Prophet.

Not all Muslims kill ram. Capable Muslims kill it. And it's not compulsory on those who can't afford it. And the Ram is to obey the injunction of the Prophet following the footstep of Abraham. He wanted to sacrifice his son and the sacrifice was replaced with a ram.

The People of Moses were to follow Allah as Moses their Prophet commands them.

Jesus never claim he brought a new covenant anywhere in the Bible.

Jesus said why do you call me good! there is none good except God alone Luke 18:19, Mark 10:18! That means Jesus is not perfect!


You will die one day and your destination is either hell or Paradise!

Steep:
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

So that the law was our custodian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a custodian Galatians 3:24-25


"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30

cornelboy:
It will be the same old story

Had it been a JW asked for just an hour to answer them they'll say "he wants to go and ask their Governing Body" but here we are!

PastorMIsBack:
If you watched the clip, the other cleaners could have corrected the new cleaner.

Your idea sounds good but when talking about humans there are lots of things to put into consideration.
A newly employed cleaner who wants to keep his/her job surely needs to learn from experienced ones, after all they knew how to keep things going that's why they're able to keep their jobs. But when the one on the wrong feels he has gotten everything figured out, trying to correct such a person will sound like insulting his/her intelligence!

You can't correct anyone until they feel the need to learn from you!
That's why Jesus said:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean" Matthew 7:12

So it's after noticing you've gotten what it takes to TEACH/CORRECT them that they'll come asking for it! Matthew 7:7-8

NNTR:

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Two positions are empty in hell. Two gone AWOL in hell. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Moses WAS God in Egypt accompanied by his own prophet:
And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. Exodus 7:1

Go and edit all the Bibles in the world to erase the above verse!

cornelboy:
In the first place, I am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God

Wake up from your slumber and see what is really happening around you!

I've pasted this on the other thread now he can start arguing singing praises with the OP who debunked the idea of Mary being the mother of God!

cornelboy:
That's what I wanted to do sir

Image123:
But this is so brazenly ignorant and foolish, you believe the Catholics only to spite Protestants. Then, after you've finished, you'll turn round to demonize the Catholics, hypocrite comedian.
In the first place, i am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God. Or maybe i missed the teaching. Of course Mary is/was the mother of God the Son. The Virgin birth is a core doctrine in all christianity i suppose.
What Protestants would disagree with is worshipping Mary or praying to Mary or praying through Mary instead of Jesus Christ. Remove your head from inside Asleep comic book and see what is really happening around you.

So he has just discovered there are millions of protestants who don't believe that Mary is the mother of God!

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He is not a christian but a cultist Jwickedness. They are cool with insults as their own elders break even bottle on people's head if you push them to pray.

Funny enough people know better.
So keep peddling lies!

cornelboy:
Image123 shebi you haven't seen any protestants say Mary is not the mother of God na one be this.
You are the one to wake up from your slumber!

Just copy that post and paste it here perhaps he has forgotten what he typed!