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Crysthaniel:
Yes by the Fruit we shall know them.. True yes

If you agree with that then the next thing to do is find out what is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in the gathering of imperfect humans who believes in Jesus?

Jesus likens each religion to a tree {Matthew 7:16-18} you and i knows surely that trees do have sharp resemblance and there are GIFTS in trees that could be found in many other trees but only the FRUIT that can't be found anywhere else except if it's that particular tree.

So what is the FRUIT expected of the religion that truly belongs to Jesus?

Janosky:
Someone else will look at it thoroughly & start asking questions & seeking for answers.
This is a public forum.
Unknown to him, he has unwittingly created a basis for that.

Of course Jesus Christ commanded us never to deprive anyone of the truth we know! Matthew 7:7-8
So when we notice individuals with honest hearts we mustn't leave such ones in the dark!

Janosky:
From the pulpit of your Pastorpreneurs & you swallow that GIBBERISH hook line and sinker.
If you are a student of the Bible you would have known that @ Mark 9:43-48 & elsewhere in your Bible, Jesus Christ spoke of Gehenna (Hebrew Gehinnom) NOT hellfire.
Your Trinity mentors removed Gehenna & put (hellfire which doesn't exist) into your Bible & you come online dey run your mouth
According to Jesus Christ, holy spirit Is God's finger.
Oga,is God's finger a person?
What of God's eyes and ears?
These (ears and eyes) are persons to you?
God placed a portion of holy spirit on the menu to assist Moses.
Oga,How many persons did God put on the men chosen to assist Moses in the bible book of Numbers?
Humans & Jesus were created in the image of God, Colossians 1:14-16, Genesis 1:27 dey your own Bible?
John 20:17, did Jesus Christ worship 3 persons?
You claim Jesus is God in the flesh.
Did God in the flesh ascend to meet himself?
Oga, you have not said anything close to your Bible truth.

Once i notice there's nothing tangible to gain in some discussions i will just excuse myself and let the person be!

TheSourcerer:
Tell me how's your area , peaceful I hope ?

Lagos is ever peaceful not until some hoodlums decides to protest against constituted authorities and trust the police can cage them!

TheSourcerer:
I'm not going to try to be coy lol but you know what I mean , I appreciate you reading through though.

I also appreciate your response, thanks Sir!

BBBmall25:
Thanks

You don't have to thank me, any honest hearted individual will discern that Jehovah's Witnesses have a lot in common with the first century Jewish disciples of Christ:

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the sweet fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you! 2Corinthians 13:14

nencounter10:
Since you don't believe the Bible there is no point getting into a discussion with you.

Thanks for the first post!

budaatum:
Well nature (what is perceived by us as nature and nature itself) has everything to do with thoughts in our minds, because we think about the nature we see around us, as intelligent creatures each of us have his or her own personal trait developed through our own individual experience of the nature around us, we only change due to convictions brought on when nature imposes itself on our perception and compels us to want to or forces us to change, as shown in the equation below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion

So unlike unintelligent creatures that can not think nor reason each of us is responsible for our own actions, and our nature, and our behaviour, and whether we burn in hell or go to heaven or just turn into manure.
And to learn and have one's own thoughts changed too, max, unless one is the only righteous know it all here and the rest of us are damned.

In the midst of millions of Nairalanders i just can't explain why Max is becoming the talk of many Nairalanders.
Well it's a welcome development!

Crysthaniel:
It saddens me why so many people attack each other doctrines as this is actually not what is to be done.. We should be telling each other how to improve spiritually
. Yes developing Godly qualities..

Jesus believes he knows all about spirituality {John 14:6} so his true followers must say the same thing.
But when people are saying this then all you need to look out for is the FRUIT their religion is producing {Matthew 7:16-18} through the FRUIT that's well observed you will know the truth and the truth will set you free from lies! John 8:32

AgirlsNightmAre:
You're nothing but a clout chaser
I've seen you being eaten alive several times by RottenNaija, you're just an empty vessel

So why debate with an empty vessel?

AgirlsNightmAre:
I will advice you guys to get an unbiased Bible commentary, Word for word ( Hebrew&Greek Interlinear translation) that is not affiliated with any mainstream church
Maximus will not answer your questions, rather he will promote his own stupid ideas with Bible verses taken out of context.
This Maximus is an extremist jw

There you go again!

Someone deliberately called me out to ask me about my beliefs when there are millions of people on this platform arguing day and night yet each has his/her own religious conviction.
Now out of all these religionists with different religious ideas that's contradicting you singled out Maximus as if i'm the only person who never agreed with others on this forum.

Now it's obvious that you're deceiving yourself Ma!

AgirlsNightmAre:
" I meant you can't stand me in a debate"
You just went around highlighting my typographic error, it's a pity

I don't know you and i don't wanna know you, neither do i want to have anything to do with you so it's you that's forcing yourself on me not the other way around!

AgirlsNightmAre:
It's left for me to decide, I'm not like you that force things you can't prove on others
Just go n relax

Do you know the difference between simple EXPRESSION and FORCE?

Because i don't think expressing myself on a public forum is the same as FORCING people, on the contrary you're the one who came insulting me for expressing myself freely!

AgirlsNightmAre:
Maximus stop this nonsense, stop taking scripture out of context
There's nothing like GB in the scriptures

AgirlsNightmAre:
You dey mad, na your papa edit him profile

AgirlsNightmAre:
I don't like to use curse word's but I can say that you're deluded. I've been doing critical and exegetical study for the past 10years, Maximus go and sit down you can stand me in a debate, several of your JW doctrine has no basis in the scriptures but just a product of mental gymnastics and eisegesis
You saw a male moniker and called it female, it seems you're a womaniser, idiooot!!!

I won't free you from what you jumped into yourself by changing the subject matter, i'm smarter than that!

AgirlsNightmAre:
DID NOAH'S FLOOD REALLY HAPPENED, AND IF IT HAPPENED WAS IT WORLDWIDE?

THE GENESIS ACCOUNT OF CREATION HAS A LOT OF LOOPHOLES," LIGHT WAS CREATED BEFORE THE SUN".......

A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES IN SOME VERSES IN THE BIBLE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS VERSES WAS LATER PLAGIARIZED BY COPYISTS?

WHY IS THE THE BOOK OF ENOCH REJECTED, WHEN JUDE QOUTES FROM IT IN HIS LETTER

There are more than this, they are somethings that need a second thought before being dogmatic, religion from what I've seen limits your thinking capacity.....

So do you still DOUBT what you formerly believe or you're now making a second U-turn?

I'll like to start from there with you!

Kumuyi wasn't diplomatic at all unlike his counterparts he blindly stick to the old system of hypnotism even when Fela Anikulapo Kuti has caused a big confusion for most of the church leaders Kumuyi still hing on the old ways of brainwashing people.

Fela Anikulapo Kuti sang a song and instantly most religious leaders started changing their perspectives because the masses will be carried along with Abàmì Ẹ̀dá's song.

Suffer Suffer for world ~ Amen
Enjoy for heaven ~ Amen

This was the old ways of brainwashing people into giving their money to Pastors but after this song majority of the Church leaders turned to prosperity preachers telling their gullible followers that they're supposed to reign as Kings on earth with all the goodies but Kumuyi failed to wake up to that call until he realized that majority of Nigerians revere the RCCG man more than him.
Now he's trying to change things but it's just too late, Fela died in 1997 that is 25 years ago and that album he released during the early 80s almost 40 years ago.

So it's too late for Kumuyi to start changing what he supposed to have changed almost four decades ago!

cornelboy:
Lol
You can do better than that bro.

I always ignore that one unless there's something sensitive to clear in his comment i will do so and leave him to continue playing around!

For instance the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that Jesus returned spiritually speaking in 1914, of course that's just a claim until it's a proven fact!

Most critics don't realize that Jesus of Nazareth came in the first century yet millions of Jews don't agree with what his disciples were claiming.
WHY?
Because it's not everyone that saw Jesus and majority of those who witnessed him performed miraculous signs concluded that he's just a magician.
So what convinced his disciples that the promised Messiah has come and gone?
Well it's what the scriptures said about the things Israelites will experience when the Messiah is around. Even John the baptist began doubting if Jesus is the expected Messiah {Matthew 11:2-3} because there has been lots and lots of speculations regarding what the scriptures said about the Messiah's arrival. So when Jesus discovered that John is confused despite being privileged to be the prophet who prepared the way for the Messiah and even baptized the Messiah Jesus decided to help John regain his stand by telling John's disciples to go and remind him (in the prison) what they should expect the Messiah to do when he's around! Matthew 11:4-6

Jesus concluded by telling the audience that despite John's confused state of mind he was the greatest of all the prophets ever live before him! Matthew 11:7-15

So if Jehovah's Witnesses organization said Jesus returned in 1914 there's no need to start arguing with them all what any intelligent person need to ask is:

Where is the evidence that this mighty spirit King is here now?

According to the scriptures Michael (Jesus Christ) will come during times of distress and confusion to gather obedient mankind and lead them spiritually speaking! Daniel 12:1-3

Few ones will gain the insight while majority will continue to languish in their ignorance due to the wickedness of their hearts! Daniel 12:10

Then those who have been taught by the promised Messiah will start connecting themselves globally, they will use the scriptures to teach one another and erased all forms of racial disparities causing troubles among the nations within their own gathering, they will divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they will stop building destructive weapons neither will they learn wars anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

All these we're all seeing live without any doubt. Please if a Jew lives in the first century but had no opportunity of seeing Jesus directly how would such a person be convinced that the Messiah (Christ) has come and gone?
Is it not by observing what is happening around his neighbourhood?
The scriptures foretold that some Jews will perform signs when their God pour out his spirit on their people {Joel 2:28-30} and when it occurred in Jerusalem Peter reminded honest hearted Jews many that joined in condemning Jesus of Nazareth that this things they've seeing is what the scriptures said will happen after the Christ has offered the ultimate sacrifice! Act 2:16-18

So if Jehovah's Witnesses say Jesus has returned as a mighty spirit King in 1914 and today we have a global family of peace loving worshipers in the name of the Prince of Peace there's no reason to doubt them!

cornelboy:
It's pure madness but they are so convinced that they're speaking it from the spirit.
I was once convinced though. Those pastors ehn. They will say "the holy spirit is already within you just utter what is on your mind, the holy spirit won't do the speaking".

It's just a simple trick to gather arrogant ones and make them do away with their earnings!

They know how to carry along rebellious humans like themselves by telling them that the Apostles aren't special, you too can perform miracles and speak in tongues yet after all said and done they're the ones collecting the money to live like gods!

cornelboy:
I don't speak in tongues.
I did in the past though.

Ha ha!
So Cornelboy can't even speak in tongues shey?
Well i will teach you, just say after me:

Shakirudeennoboboloradodonidootunjedodo, Owafowododoromoonidodonidodo!

Can you just mimick that for now?

Hismasterpiece:
Lol... Mr Max... The JW who swallows every thing the Watchtower gives him without questioning... the man who uses only one Scripture in the whole Bible to form a doctrine about the non-existence of Hell when there are more than 10 Scriptures that contradict that doctrine... The man who believes that the Holy Spirit is not a person... The man who believes that human beings are made in the image of Angels... the man that denies the doctrine of the Trinity....
I could go on and on but like I said before and will say again... continue in your deception

Thanks for spending your time and data!

TheSourcerer:
Its a humble Question . You never met him , yet you claim to love him , how do you love someone you never met ,and who never met you?
I know it is easier to love people who had died past us , but why love someone so deeply yet you know nothing about him except what is in the bible or Koran , why? Love is to be mutual , I know you love Jesus /Mohammed but do they love you? Do they even know you ? So how can love exist , its like loving a president of a country even though you have nothing in common or have never met him , why then would he care about you... Similier to modern day celebrities, our grandad , our Ansestors. , especially at their death ,their fans love skyrocket

Are you sure of the highlighted?

Because sane people do love MONEY, CAR, HOUSE, DECORATION, FLOWER, FOOD and so many other none living things. Please can you tell me how such love could be MUTUAL?

Thanks in advance!

oteneaaron:
Kettle calling pot black!
You are very guilty of the above.
Your receipts are all over NL.
You have insulted and called people names just because they didn't agree with you.
So before pointing fingers at Sonmvayina, you gotta look at yourself.

I've gotten lots and lots of fans on this forum, many say nice things about Maximus while others say bad things about Maximus.
So you're welcome anytime anyday Sir, you can't be the first or last to say whatever you feel about Maximus!

BBBmall25:
No need for quarrel. Your opinion on my religion won't change anything! Same to yours. So stop judging, let God be the ultimate. My verdict haven gone through your comments: no marriage of Christendom is perfect, but on average compare to the rest, J'w has some liverage_ peace and thanks all.

For speaking or saying something in favour of Jehovah's Witnesses {John 7:50-52} guy you have entered one chance in their hands.
So get prepared to face more of what you're seeing now!

cornelboy:
Jworg won't teach you to hate. If you were my enemy, you think I'll be here replying you?

The real secret behind hatred is POLITICS!
Where each human seeks his or her own glory, Satan set this trap to catch all arrogant humans so no matter how nice one is he can never decipher what he/she is getting into until you meet Jesus' ANOINTED brothers.

Many would feel they love you because they're trying to be friendly but what about politics at the corner hidden from their sight they will like to PROTECT their lives, families, investments, properties and they also want to be viewed as patriotic citizens.
So they will support politicians in taking up weapons against those the politicians blackmailed as ENEMIES thereby killing even their so called fellow believers in other countries. Revelations 6:3-4

Only Jesus' anointed brothers can teach us how to LOVE our neighbours for real, Satan's agents may not even realize they're working for Satan {Matthew 7:21-23 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4} in fact most of them do think they're doing God's will when they persecute Jesus' true disciples who are well organized and orderly which is the only fence Satan can't break in to pollute the minds of those hiding in the city of refuge in order to sow the weed of politics in their hearts!

Crysthaniel:
You made some valuable comments here.. But actually there is no distinction in worshipping God alone or in Group As a group may all believe in the wrong thing.. Mind you that According to the Bible, people that claim to know God Also derailed and non servants of God are also pointed out and appreciated for their So called fine works.. So what's the thing here.. Is to know that God don't love a group or a person, he loves everyone and everyone can seek him.. Yes in group or not..

To this he said: “I have been absolutely zealous for Jehovah the God of armies; for the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, your altars they have torn down, and your prophets they have killed with the sword, and I am the only one left. Now they are seeking to take my life away.” 1Kings 19:10

The above comment is from Elijah one of the greatest among servants of God in ancient times.
Do you notice the highlighted?
Definitely true worship of God can't be done in ISOLATION!

Well nature has nothing to do with thoughts in our minds, as intelligent creatures each of us have his or her own personal trait, we only change due to convictions.
So unlike unintelligent creatures each of us is responsible for our own actions, that's why you are here to reason with others perhaps to make them change their thoughts otherwise there's no reason arguing with people like you if all their thoughts and actions is as a result of their nature!

sonmvayina:
Lol..I don't, do I?

Do you want me to start copying and pasting all the end result of your numerous debates on this forum as you always end up telling everyone they're not using their brains?

sonmvayina:
MaxInDHouse,
What is the nature of God
What is the nature of Satan.
I think this will clarify a lot of things...

What is the nature of people around you?
Do you believe everyone is thinking rightly?
If not, what is the cause?

I've noticed that you always insult, abuse and even curse those that disagree with you on this forum.
So what makes you differ from them?

Iyaebe:
Daddy you said Adam sided with Satan? you're wrong

Do you believe the Bible?

Well the scriptures emphatically stated that it was Eve (the woman) that was DECEIVED into rebelling against God but as for Adam he deliberately chose his own path! 1Timothy 2:14

Thanks for your contribution, may you have PEACE!

AntiChristian:
The lineage of Mary was not mentioned in the Bible.

Only that of Joseph was mentioned twice with two different genealogies!

And Jesus has no ancestors as mother's ancestors do not count in those times till now!

Matthew recorded the lineage of Mary that's why he mentioned her name as the person through whom Joseph became SON-in-law in Mary's genealogy! Matthew 1:16


Luke recorded what everyone around Judea knew since the child was born to Joseph so he said "as the general opinion of people around" Luke 3:30

So from both sides Jesus is related to Isaac whether we follow the opinion of people around or the fact that the pregnancy and birth was miraculous!

sonmvayina:
Lol...
I created a thread. Come let's thrash it out.

Go check it out!

Now you've done the needful!

So many people can learn from this even though you will end up calling me names!


God created the heavens and the earth! Genesis 1:1
Satan rebelled against God, left heaven and decided to woo humans into becoming his own worshipers! Genesis 3:1-5
Adam (God's first earthly Son) {Luke 3:38} sided with Satan! Genesis 3:5-6
Ever since then 99.9 % of earth's population began doing Satan's will! Genesis 6:6
Whoever has the majority is the one in control! Psalms 14:1-3
Satan asked Jesus to join his government since the world and all the governmental seats are under Satan's control! Luke 4:5-7
So until God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} to destroy all Satan's agents {Daniel 2:44} Satan remains the ruler of this world! John 14:30; 2 Corinthians4:4; 1John 5:19


May you have PEACE!

Mary is from what lineage?
Is your grandson (daughter's son) not related to you by blood?