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oteneaaron:
Are you sure you are not confusing Satan's Organization for your own?
So witches have district heads?
I thought JWs have district overseers too?
Or is this not the hierarchy of your organization? - -
1. Rank and File JWs - like you
2. Ministerial servants
3. Elders
4. Body of Elders
5. Co-ordinator of the body of Elders
6. Circuit overseers (also known as CO)
7. District overseers/heads - just like Satan's organization you mentioned above
8. Branch Committee members
9. The Governing Body
10. Jehovah
So Satan forces himself on people?
Is that not what a CULT does?
If a member of your CULT refuses to be controlled, is that person not kicked out and shunned?
So are you indirectly saying Satan is the true leader of your organization?
Because anyone reading your words carefully, will be led to conclude that it looks as though, that is what you are implying.
This is very interesting.

Guy, that's how things are ORGANIZED where a spirit who is the SUPREME BEING reigns.
This is what you're missing in this arrangement:
All these people are under the order from the overall SPIRIT BEING. John 17:22

So this arrangement is not hidden from anyone in God's organization unlike Satan's arrangement where you don't know those ruling over you underG. All of us in God's arrangement are under the same rule.
What i thought you should have refuted is how this setting doesn't affect your so called "ABSOLUTE FREEDOM" that you're clamoring for!

LordReed:
Ok so you don't know the name you just know there is a witchcraft cult? How did you know that? Did they come knocking on your door like JW proselyters? LoLz.

My friend, the highest form of CULT on this planet are the witches who communicate directly with Satan the spirit ruling this planet.

The one and only reason why we are much more united in thought than them is because their leader Satan is a LIAR who always deceives all those under his dominion. He tricked all of them into believing that they will have absolute freedom and rule over none- members. So each member of the CULT is subjected to their district rulers to whom they bow whenever that one says anything whether according to their laid down rules or not. It's only none-members they can treat anyhow but their are district heads who can do and undo while Satan is their overall leader with the power to exterminate any of them at will.

But under God's Kingdom arrangement all of us see just one King Jesus Christ who in turn looks unto his father and God JEHOVAH.
So we know there is nothing like absolute freedom, but each person is free to set his personal goals as long as it doesn't interfere adversely with the lives of our fellowman.
Satan's own organization is forcing itself on people whether they like it or not that's why we have POLITICS, you may continue deceiving yourself but know today that Satan's agents will decide what should or shouldn't be wherever you go on this planet. Therefore what happens to your so called freedom?

My friend, there are lots and lots of secrets you don't know but since you often say i'm a story teller that's why i left you to continue deceiving yourself with false reasoning thinking you have absolute freedom!

LordReed:
What is the name of the witchcraft cult?

Ask me again!

cornelboy:
Oh you think Jesus would say we can commit murder and aldultery right?
The law is not just the ten commandments
Study the new testament well and see what I'm talking about.
Jesus brought another new covenant and ended the old covenant.

They thought the law begins with Moses!

suicidesheep:
First and foremost you ingrate Bleep, nairaland is a very stupid platform hence why no one uses it. How u idiots manage to like here I will never understand.

Its u who haven't read ur bible. Why wont I side d Catholics over u. People that literally wrote the bible.. it's your stupid lazy ass that doesn't want to bring his brain out of his ass and make research about he's stupid religion and he's even more stupid denomination.

So Catholics wrote your own copy of the Bible, no wonder you're this stupid?

oteneaaron:
As in ehn
This is the first time ever in my life that a JW is admitting that they are a CULT, and that their CULT is the best performing one.
This is a really interesting twist.

Funny atheists, so far it's not a crime in the human society to be a harmless CULT no matter what you say it's your problem.
After all there is FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION, WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION.
So go now and hug the transformer!

oteneaaron:
Point of correction, I am not name-shaming you. You blatantly admitted that your religion is a CULT. And not just any cult, but the best performing one in the world! Wow!
This is a very interesting thing to admit.
Someday, we will get to talk about whether or not Jesus is truly backing your CULT.
According to the orgainzation, 1919 was the year that after searching many other CULTS, he (Jesus) finally decided to select your religion as the one and only true CULT.
This is a very interesting twist!!!
I am shocked!

Don't be shocked, Jesus already prepared our minds for whatever faithless miscreants like you may say against us.
So if you call us a CULT for having the same line of thought {Matthew 10:22} just as Jesus foretold about his followers {John 17:22} our joy is made full! Matthew 5:11-12

LordReed:
LoL! Scientology doesn't believe in your god yet are one of the most powerful cults in the world. Your mythological god is not the issue. Bwahahahahaha!

Keep deceiving yourself!
Witchcraft are the most powerful cult on this planet, yet they're never united in thought!

My friend,
Ìṣọ̀kan ni à ń sọ̀rọ̀ nípa ẹ̀ báyìí, wọn ò lè jíi!

When it comes to oneness in thought it's not possible for imperfect humans so without the presence of the most High God: JEHOVAH!

LordReed:
JW propaganda won't let him see road.

It's obvious that really you're seeing the ROAD! Matthew 7:13-14

oteneaaron:
Come again?
Are you saying JW is actually a CULT, but the best performing one?
Ever heard of Heavens Gate?
Ever heard of the church of Scientology?

Call us CULT or whatever as long as we're able to meet up with Jesus' command we are 100% OK! Matthew 10:25

LordReed:
LMAO! At least you agree that JW ticks almost all the boxes in there. Bwahahahahaha!

You failed because the meaning of SUPREME BEING is one who is able to make all his worshipers have the same line of thought {John 17:22} but no CULT on this planet can do that.
Wọn ò lè ji, kìí ṣ'érù akátá, akátá ò ní pa ẹdìyẹ kó tún pa ẹlẹ́dìyẹ!
Satan can only deceive you into thinking you will have absolute freedom {Genesis 3:4-5} but for Satan to have deceived you you'll only continue to fight and kill one another because all of you want absolute freedom yet that's not possible as you must cohabit with fellow humans of your kind who also want absolute freedom while living together in the same society! Luke 11:23

LordReed:
LoLz. The family of humanity, where we appreciate the diversity of opinion and of being.

Exactly!
Please explain to him that you're his brother in your FACTS!

LordReed:
Yes the JW org is a cult. Below is the check list for cults and JW checks almost every one of them.

Hypocrisy is what's killing you!
You said it's FACTS that makes you feel good but here you are distorting facts yourself.
All what you mentioned up here cut across all religions not just one because there's no religion that's not interested in all but due to their failure they're now looking at JWs as the one and only group having the spirit to hold it's members under one umbrella! Matthew 5:13-16

There's no cult on this planet that can make all what you typed up there work because it's only the true God SUPREME BEING that has the power and will to do so! John 17:22

Satan is the founder of cultism, the reason why he can't succeed in all what you typed up there is his foundation. He deceived his first members (Adam and Eve) that they will have absolute freedom but ever since then he's been trying to gain absolute control over their descendants and since they're not submitting to him willingly he began using material possessions to entice them. Yet many of them do rebel against him so he kills many and turns others to insanes.

Therefore if what you typed up there is your definition of CULT then you're a failure because there is no cult that can have such control over it's members, ṣé wọ́n fẹ́ ji ni?

Truvelisback:
No matter how hard u try to explain the truth to him, he will derail ur ans and reply u something else that would be completely different from ur point. The truth is that, he knows u are right but because of the church(JW) he was raised and their doctrines won't want him to accept.

Don't worry about me explain your trinity truth to the OP he's the one asking you guys not me!

cornelboy:
I just saw that stuff @ MaxinDhouse gracias sir

I asked my friend @ MTN office in Lagos island to help me out because i've been trying to do it but it's just not going.
It's OK my brother!

cornelboy:
The early church and its doctrines and practices were pure and were established in the truth not based on human doctrines like the pharisees and today's christians.
The JWs are the only ones zealously doing close to what God and Bible teaches.
If you have any other better performing group, let's us know

Faithful people aren't difficult to recognize!

The Samaritan woman asked Jesus a question that's been bothering are mind. Jews are saying it's only in Jerusalem (among the Jews) that people should worship the true God while Samaritans believe it's both in mount Zion (Jerusalem) and mount Gerizim (Samaria) that anyone could worship the true God. John 4:19-20

Did Jesus approved both? NO!
Did Jesus present the better performing group? YES!
He said to the woman:

“Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews". John 4:21-22

Definitely Jesus spoke of the better performing group!

achorladey:
Then the below from you is useless, irrelevant and very apt at that
What you call my LIES have repeatedly become your TRUTH . No be today you start am. You need reminder from LordReed who you really are?

Good!
LordReed is your family, ATHEIST FAMILY!

Apt!

achorladey:
No be by force to respond to fruitless arguments. The choice to look away is very much available. Make use of it.

achorladey:
Se wa kekoo?
Are you doing the will of the Father? You go learn now and see the divisions. Show me a Bible verse that categorically states Splane is a spiritual brother of Jesus and you MaxInDHouse is not. Just one verse. Where in Luke 12:32 did it states Splane is a spiritual brother and MaxInDHouse is not a spiritual brother?
In order to equate your religious leaders that are not inspired you will drag, denigrate and bring those not in their class into the same class as they are. This is Paul's words to Timothy
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,* for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
How will the same not equipped Paul be saying the things he has written will completely equip others for every good work?
The partial knowledge is what has stood the test of time for centuries and ages up till now and you still find people read here and there. That is not the same for the imperfect spiritual food your religious leaders feed you over the years.
For example the religious organization you belong kept manipulating the same Paul's partial knowledge on Romans 13:1. . You see the difference.
The issue you have is even accepting the words of your religious leaders that states Jesus didn't guarantee that they will give you perfect spiritual food.
Jesus didn't state that. It was cooked from the memory of your religious leaders and it has become a doctrine and they don't humble themselves enough to even accept correction from others knowing that they cannot guarantee spiritual guidance
What was the proper food regarding Romans 13:1 from the existence of the religious organization you belong till now? I have read it numerous times already What will you get at the proper time, guaranteed perfect spiritual or guaranteed imperfect spiritual food. Which one? Faithless people like us as you posit know enough that
Work, not for the food that perishes, but for the food that remains for everlasting life, which the Son of man will give you; for on this one the Father, God himself, has put his seal of approval.”
Oga intelligence officer why should I be working for guaranteed imperfect spiritual food?
Those your guaranteed imperfect spiritual food keeps perishing all over these years in past truth, present truth, future truth.
Don't go about then telling others to show you better performing group or go about boasting about being better. They are equally contented. Ka ji ko?

With the lengthy epistle only two Bible verses:

“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom" Luke 12:32

Jesus clearly explained that few chosen ones among his disciples will RULE the earth that's filled with OBEDIENT mankind {Luke 22:30 compare to Revelations 20:4} understandably it's not all his disciples that's going to rule with him.


"Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God" Romans 13:1

This is the funniest part because Paul isn't talking about leadership in the congregation of God here but worldly politicians (rulers) that's why he mentioned TAXES and DUES {Romans 13:6-7} where subjection to those taking the lead in Christian congregation is emphasized is Hebrews 13:7, 17 nothing like taxes or dues is mentioned!

Regarding those that will RULE with Jesus Paul emphasized that they will be baptized by God's Holy Spirit so they'll participate in the eating of the emblem during Christ's memorial and anyone who eats and drinks unworthily will have himself or herself to blame! 1Corinthians 11:27-30

So giving support to Christ's anointed brothers is what will save the other sheep {Matthew 25:31-40} as for those arguing blindly trying to validate all sects simply because they just don't want to SUBJECT themselves to Christ's brothers, Jesus will give them what they deserve in the end! Matthew 25:41-46

Typing epistles for fruitless arguments without anything tangible to gain and adding countless smileys won't save you ògbéni it's obvious you're completely empty spiritually speaking!

achorladey:
Se wa kekoo
Na outside the camp Jesus dey.
Therefore, Jesus also suffered outside the city gate+ in order to sanctify the people with his own blood.+ 13 Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the reproach he bore
I don't have to be in the better performing group you keep asking for to bear the reproach he bore.
Se wa kekoo?
Divisions like.....
Splane is a brother[/b to [b]Jesus.
MaxInDHouse is not a brother to Jesus.

I believe i'm not one of Jesus' spiritual brothers because he addressed some of his disciples as the little flock given the Kingdom to rule with the Christ {Luke 12:32} but others he referred to as the other sheep! John 10:16
So i'm OK as one of the other sheep, you don't need gnashing your teeth at Jesus' brothers you can go and join them if you have the garment of invited wedding guests! Matthew 22:12-13

achorladey:
According to your modern day Governing body.......
Jesus didn't guarantee they(your governing body) will give you perfect SPIRITUAL food. That is your not having spirituality in your face.
You no go want study those scriptures as it applies to the organization you belong.
Baba e bo le ni be
Your self centered begins with telling me your religious organisation is a better performing group when they still practice and sin like all those you call bad ones do and are still under the influence of Satan like other.

Even Apostle Paul emphasized that they're not equipped enough to give perfect spiritual food to the other sheep:

"For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially" 1Corinthians 13:9

So no right thinking person will seek PERFECT spiritual food from IMPERFECT humans Sir, but our food at the proper time will be delivered by Jesus' faithful and discreet slaves, that's what Jesus promised! Matthew 24:45

You can read that verse in any version of your choice, Jesus only promised that we will get it at the proper time meaning it will dispensed gradually. So it's faithless people like you that's complaining about the portion but we who are faithfully considering Jesus' voice, we are contented Sir!

suicidesheep:
Not surprised at your disgusting comments
Man created God in his own image.
See the nonsense you wrote in d name of defending your God. Better have a good look at yourself

When next you find yourself in a public forum like this just look very well before you leap because you may end up seeing that you don't have enough information to criticize what others are saying.

suicidesheep:
I'm new to this nairaland.

That's why i patiently followed you responding like a gentleman until you proved to be stupid and empty in your reasoning!

cornelboy:
Where do you think Adam and Eve went to after death? To the ground and returned to dust right?
Did God say they will leave after death?

He will tell you "God has forgiven Adam" whose sin brought us all into trouble causing the stress that's unbearable!
But those struggling to find their way in order to live a meaningful life will be thrown into fire to be tormented forever!

cornelboy:
Èkọ́ irọ́ àwọn atheists
Bring better performing group, you no fit

Ẹ̀kọ́ láti ọ̀dọ̀ aláìgbàgbọ́!

Now the words of the first century Governing Body and their modern day brothers is coming to fulfillment:

"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 2John 1:10


These are the ones who cause divisions, animalistic men, not having spirituality. Jude 1:19

They don't want to learn from God's anointed ministers but they want others to learn from them:

I wrote something to the congregation, but Di·otʹre·phes, who likes to have the first place among them, does not accept anything from us with respect. 3John 1:9

The highlighted in red shows why they can't stay in the truth, they want to lead others with their self-centered mind set but since it's not working among Jesus' sheep they left and began complaining outside the camp.

Now God's Holy Spirit is revealing to you what they want to do with you: lead you even when they don't have the spirit to do so, that's why he kept repeating LEARN! LEARN! but he is not ready to LEARN from those who have produced fine FRUIT with their WORKS! Matthew 7:16-18

suicidesheep:
I'm new to this nairaland. Give me your WhatsApp number let's have discussion on a better platform. You can post screenshots here later on.

Your stupidity is why the catholic church never wanted every to be able to read d bible. Any idiot like u can interpret it to mean anything.

See madness!

Now you want to take side with the Catholic Church yet you've been ridiculing what they believe but when you see LOGICAL reasoning in what's written you want to go back to that which you're able to debunk.
You're just a foolish mugu using atheism to cover up for your laziness instead of making a thorough research to know what is written in the Bible you gave up easily due to laziness.
Now that you have someone who doesn't give up like you you want his Whatsapp number!

Answer the question WÈRÈ!

Do you still have anything to say against God's word?
YES or NO!

Good to hear from you because this really show that you aren't worshiping simply because your parents practiced the former religion but because you really want to worship the one true God.
However i was a Muslim before i converted to Christianity for just one reason: TRUTH

That means each person has his/her reasons for switching from one school of thought to another!

suicidesheep:
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You think I quarreling with you.. lol.
Everyone with their own. You lack basic reasoning and understanding

Ọ̀DẸ̀, ÒPÒNÚ, OLÓDO!
FOOLISH, CONFUSED, DULLARD!

So it's you who can't figure out any solution to the problems affecting everyone including you that has basic reasoning and understanding, shey?

God said Adam will die and Adam began deteriorating unknowing to him gradually until he could see for himself that his youthful vigor is failing out. That's the one and only reasonable answer why humans grow old, get sick and die.
Your stupid professors in atheism wanted to debunk this but were frustrated to see that according to man's DNA our body cells keep replacing themselves but they can't just figure out why we are growing old.
My friend, the Bible (God's word) has given you the answer so whether you like it or not there's no reasonable answer elsewhere!

Another shocker for you and your stupid professors in atheism!

That book Bible said the first snake spoke, of course that sounds unbelievable but then it goes on to say it has legs before it was cursed {Genesis 3:14} go and ask your forefathers in atheism who keeps looking into science to debunk God's word.
They just discovered that in the DNA of snakes it has four legs but they can't figure out what happened to it!
God's word answered: it was due to the curse!

You want to throw all that away just because you've been scammed by false religionists due to your own stupidity, now you want to tell me you have basic reasoning and understanding!

Abeg stop it because this makes you sound really stupid!

It's misinformed Churchgoers you should ask such questions not Christians!

cornelboy:
Na you need to go school o.
Make i go run PhD Abi before i go fit understand
Paining me? Baba you de reason like a 10 years old kid

His problem is understandable, like his fathers (first century Jewish Pharisees) he wants to stop JWs from commenting {Act 4:18; 5:28} but he doesn't know how to go about it since America has declared FREEDOM OF SPEECH EXPRESSION and WORSHIP so he now wants to use other tactics.
Please if not frustration what is the problem of a commentator going through the profile of another commentator and complaining about how long, how many posts, how many hours and so on?
Between the first century Jewish religionists and Christians who is trailing and bitterly complaining about another's movement and activities?
My brother, it's well with God's people. Let him and his cohorts continue crying bitterly since they don't have any power again to hinder God's work.
We will never stop talking about what we have heard with our ears and seen with our eyes in the truth! Act 4:20

Backlaw406:
Ok, mr comedian, thanks for your hilarious post.

It's OK if that's what makes you happy!

Steep:
Look at the mirror and ask yourself if you make sense!
The father , Son and holy ghost has one name.
Jehovah witness organization for many years are having it difficult to explain away that verse, that verse is very clear about the Trinity.

The father, son and holy spirit are persons with one name because they are one God.
Baptizing people in the name of Jesus is the same as Baptizing people in the name of the father and the holy spirit too.

It's OK!

Backlaw406:
haha, lmao.
Truth be told, guy you're good at making people laugh by your comment.
I'm here, I want to laugh, let your tale by the moonlight be rolling

The message is surely to bring laughter and joy to the heart of many so instead of sad faces you'll see the smiles showing the good condition of their hearts.
Therefore you're always welcome my friend!

Steep:
Mathew 28 vv19
The father, son and holy spirit has one name.
Mathew 28 vv19 validates the kjv 1 John 5 vv 7.

Well that verse simply means Jesus' disciples must extend God's warm invitation to people of the nations.
And that will require helping them to know so many things they never heard before regarding the true God (Father) the prophet that commissioned the preaching work (Jesus God's Son) and the active force behind all the achievements of God's people (Holy Spirit)

If you checked what happened when Peter was asked by Jews (Israelites) who already had partial knowledge about God (Father) and the active force (Holy Spirit) Peter asked them to get baptized only in the name of Jesus Christ! Act 2:38

WHY?
Because this people already believe in God and the Holy Spirit that's why they were moved as they saw the WORKS of their God as the Spirit is enabling Jews speak in foreign languages. So the only name missing for their salvation to be complete is "JESUS" that they don't know!

May you have PEACE!