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cornelboy:
Your comments no need response
But wait o JOTL na bad name?
The moment you stop going to their church, enmity don start

No be religion matter Abi
Why don't you tell us why you stop going to church altogether or belong to any religion?

Oh the highlighted is simple!

He belongs to a god that doesn't care whether his worshipers are disorganized so far they're claiming "CHRISTIANS" his god is OK! Matthew 7:13-14; Luke 11:23

AgirlsNightmAre:
Concerning that verse in Matthew Chap.8 (although it has know connection with what you were saying) some Bible commentary use this approach:

Jesus is evidently saying: ‘Let those who are spiritually dead bury their dead,’ that is, the man should not wait to make his decision to follow Jesus, since other relatives could apparently care for the father until his death. By following Jesus, the man put himself on the way to eternal life, not among those who were spiritually dead before God'.

That means we are saying the same thing!
The spiritual controls the physical so whoever is dead spiritually is already on the road to destruction unless the person begin to put faith in Jesus in order to switch to the road leading off to life {Matthew 7:13-14} he will eventually be destroyed! John 3:16

So all humans are walking corpse unless those putting faith in Jesus! John 3:17-18

GHOSTS means "SPIRIT OF THE DEAD" but the dead don't have any spirt, apart from the most high God, spirits are angels whether loyal or rebellious spirit sons of God.
The loyal ones don't have any dealings with humans so we can't see or feel their presence unless they are sent to deliver a message to us. But the rebellious angels operates within their own thoughts so they can do whatever it will take them to instill fear in the hearts of those who can't see them!

cornelboy:
So your own bird get different feathers
I'm a JW, I'm proud to say it.
What about you, what's your religion, where do you stand?
Sorry if you see the 8 men as diety because i don't. There are brothers too like every JW but they head the org just like Peter and some apostles head the early church.

His type (Diotrephes) gave the Apostles tough times in handling their responsibility back in the first century! 3John 1:9
So don't be surprised that they will give those taking the lead {Hebrews 13:7, 17} any label just to ridicule them yet they can't find a better performing group!

LordReed:
Well, telling them fables isn't the solution either. The facts I have offered have formed the basis for many helpful things, just not the type of things a cult like yours can or wants to teach.

Whatever you can phantom that will ease the tension in the hearts of people around you so that they won't resort to killing one another is a welcome development my friend.
So whether you believe in God or not you can be useful now by offering sound counsel to people around you making them calm.

AgirlsNightmAre:
You said that ALL THOSE WITHOUT FAITH ARE WASTE PRODUCTS WETHER CHILD OR ADULTS
This goes in Stark contrast to what the Bible teaches
You are not the one to dictate who will survive the day of God's wrath, God has appointed Christ as the Judge, he alone searches the heart and decides who gets Eternal life or Eternal destruction...........God searches the heart, humans judge based on outward appearance

I love the highlighted, and i will like to tell you that you're blessed if you truly believe what you typed in there.

Now let's consider how Jesus view people without faith! 1Corinthians 2:16


Jesus is in Israel, among the Jews, people God said are His chosen race {Exodus 5:1} but this young man said to one of them who asked for permission to go and bury his father:

“Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead" Matthew 8:22

Can the dead bury themselves? NO!
So what did Jesus meant by this statement?

This is where the WISDOM is gotten that all those without faith are like walking corpse in the sight of Jesus judge of the earth! Luke 19:27 compare to Revelations 21:8

LordReed:
I enlightened people with facts not with fables and nightmares. LoL.

Lots is happening affecting people's lives, they want to know why, you don't know yet you want to argue after admitting you don't know.
What fact is in your ignorance?

Truvelisback:
MaxinDHouse, is just a derailer. He always comments off topic.

So of all commentators on the thread only Max is your problem, shey?

So with all the knowledge you've acquired both in your scientific researches and University all you can do is just trolling on a forum like this where people need to be enlightened.
Ó mà ṣeo!

LordReed:
LMAO! I am not the source of your nightmares Ok. Bwahahahahaha!

suicidesheep:
Selective arguments, why didn't u comment on the others. Why do u stop growing tall after a certain age, u grow old because ur body stops replicating stem cells after a certain age.
You'll just online and read any article that doesn't even relate to the argument. Using ur stupid logic we should be able to grow a new limb if one is cut off because the cells will surely be replaced.

The highlighted!
According to the book (Bible) God created the first human couple adults not babies so whenever any of their descendants grow to that stage they automatically stop growing!

Please can you answer my question instead of this unwarranted anger?

AgirlsNightmAre:
You just wrote a bunch of trash, common! how do you read your Bible?
When the Bible openly talks about a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous and Romans 6:7 says: "For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin"

Thanks for going through the post Sir, we really appreciate people like you for the interest you show in our book (Bible)
There are many errors during the translation of Bible texts hence the misconceptions.

The righteous and the unrighteous Paul spoke about {Act 24:15} simply connotes two categories of people. The first knew God's standard and lived their lives in harmony with it so God declared them "RIGHTEOUS" {James 2:21} but there are many people who never had any dealings with the true God, throughout their lives they worship idols yet they're prisoners of conscience as they won't do to others what they don't like {Matthew 7:12} these ones even though they don't know God's will they are a law to themselves {Romans 2:14} so God declared them "UNRIGHTEOUS" they will be remembered for their humaneness.


But some people choose to be evil, they don't care what others go through due to their actions so these ones God declared them "WICKED" such ones will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

LordReed:
This guy and his nightmares. Anything to validate your cult.

Guy you've always said it repeatedly that you don't know anything about God so instead of wishing everyone to be as ignorant as you're
it's better you stick to a section where you can be of good use with what you know!

bmdmix11:
if Muslims had Mohammed witness like jehovah witness I wonder what it will b like when they knock on ur door?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is really thought provoking!
But nobody will show interest in this topic.
WHY?
Because Jehovah's Witnesses don't participate in politics so if you're not interested in their teachings they will not force you unlike Muslims who feels unbelievers are hindering their prayers therefore they want to dominate in policy making. Matthew 5:14-16; John 18:36 compare to John 17:14-16
Jehovah's Witnesses don't retaliate as in paying evil for evil so instead of thinking about how to take vengeance they live matters in the hands of God! Matthew 5:43-48
Jehovah's Witnesses don't join in protests against constituted authorities {Romans 13:1-3} because Jesus ordered them to pay Caesar (authorities) their dues! Matthew 5:41; Mark 12:17 compare to Romans 13:5-7

All these are the things JWs believe and teaches, there's no way any group can come from some other religions to practice all these {Matthew 7:16-18} so they can't go to people's houses to preach (plead) most especially when they feel you should be corrected forcefully!

suicidesheep:
U grow old cause stems cells in ur body begin to age just like every other animal
U get sick because of so many things weather, no self care, etc just like every other animal
And u die just like every other animal

I thought scientists say the (HUMAN) body cells always replace themselves so they can't figure out why people grow old!


Our Bodies Replace Billions of Cells Every Day Blood and the gut dominate cell turnover

By Mark Fischetti, Jen Christiansen on April 1, 2021
Our Bodies Replace Billions of Cells Every Day
Credit: Jen Christiansen
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The human body replaces its own cells regularly. Scientists at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, have finally pinned down the speed and extent of this “turnover.” About a third of our body mass is fluid outside of our cells, such as plasma, plus solids, such as the calcium scaffolding of bones. The remaining two thirds is made up of roughly 30 trillion human cells. About 72 percent of those, by mass, are fat and muscle, which last an average of 12 to 50 years, respectively. But we have far more, tiny cells in our blood, which live only three to 120 days, and lining our gut, which typically live less than a week. Those two groups therefore make up the giant majority of the turnover. About 330 billion cells are replaced daily, equivalent to about 1 percent of all our cells. In 80 to 100 days, 30 trillion will have replenished—the equivalent of a new you.

Cellular Turnover In The Human Body
Credit: Jen Christiansen; Sources: “Revised Estimates for the Number of Human and Bacteria Cells in the Body,” by Ron Sender, Shai Fuchs and Ron Milo, in PLOS Biology, Vol. 14; August 2016 (total cell data), and “The Distribution of Cellular Turnover in the Human Body,” by Ron Sender and Ron Milo, in Nature Medicine, Vol. 27; January 2021 (cell turnover data)
This article was originally published with the title "A New You in 80 Days" in Scientific American 324, 4, 76 (April 2021)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/our-bodies-replace-billions-of-cells-every-day/#:~:text=The%20human%20body%20replaces%20its%20own%20cells%20regularly.&text=But%20we%20have%20far%20more,giant%20majority%20of%20the%20turnover.

So according to STUPID SCIENTISTS humans are supposed to continue living without growing old but they just can't explain why it's not so.
That's why many believe what's written in that old ancient book that says:

Then Jehovah said: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely, because he is only flesh. Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years. Genesis 6:3

Because ever since this statement was made no human outlived 120 years without growing old!
So please can you explain better than those stupid scientists because it seems you know far better than they do!

cornelboy:
Lol a free ticket won't change anything about God and his Messiah.

Even archeology has proved that the new testament is historically accurate.

Now you will know what being a true Christian means!
On a thread where many claims CHRISTIANS achorladey (Apostate), MindHacker (AntiChristian), oteneaaron and LordReed (atheists) were able to figure out just two commentators belonging to a unique group and challenging them as if only these two are followers of Jesus! Luke 12:11

Jehovah's Witnesses, my God will continue to bless you guys for locating me!

cornelboy:
Eeyah sorry i feel your pain. You've really got some experience

He's just trolling here and there!

The OP has said something worth considering and we need to know if it has any bearing with the norms of first century followers of Christ.
Of course that's the rule they laid down:

"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them". Romans 16:17

"But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man" 1Corinthians 5:11


"They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort" 1John 2:19

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works". 2John 1:10-11

What we need to ask ourselves now is:
Which group is practicing true Christianity just as Christ's disciples?

Only faithful people who love Jesus will like to know the answer to that! Matthew 7:21-23

LordviccoDaGuru:
Good morning everyone and happy Sunday. Pls I wish to pay the 10% (tithe) I was paid 100k now how much will be my tithe (10%) ?

If it's your monthly earning you must first deduct all bills e.g. house rent, electricity, water, gas, food stuff, transportation, health care and other monthly bill afterwards you must divide the balance into ten places the tenth of it is your tithe, that's your gain.
So it could be probably ₦2,000 or ₦2,500 monthly, this is why there is frustration everywhere because when you pay 10% of ₦100,000 as your tithe it will leave you with a huge deficit to be carried over to the next month!

suicidesheep:
Not surprised at your disgusting comments
Man created God in his own image.
See the nonsense you wrote in d name of defending your God. Better have a good look at yourself

That's what's written in God's word for us to understand why we do grow old, get sick and die!
But since you don't believe in God then go ahead and explain what you think is the cause for oldage, sickness and death.
No one is depriving you of your freedom of speech or expression!

Steep:
You are seriously deluded

It's OK!

Titaniumental:
Steep and MaxInDHouse both of you are still saying thesame thing,but in a slightly different way,I don't see any cause for argument here

Thanks for the intervention.

He's ashamed to admit that he goofed bit time exposing his ignorance through his own question, it's clear that all humans have sinned and fallen short of God's glory whether a fetus or adult.
But he's feeling so uncomfortable that it's one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's explanating to him how come little babies have sinned.
That's all.
We know them by their FRUITS, they will try to criticize Jehovah's Witnesses on a public forum like this but by the end of the day when they are humbled they just want to turn everything into blind arguments!

Birds of the same feather, atheist family!

LordReed:
He is not going to read any book his cult hasn't approved and definitely not any one that seems to be critical of the foundations of his beliefs. He needs to maintain his illusions after all.

MindHacker9000:
Posting such a picture shows you are the one that is raving mad and mentally ill due to your insinuation of a FAKE man made messiah that could not keep his promise to save even the elect he promised to come back for after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD.
“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. Matthew 24:22
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Matthew 24:30-31
Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened..Matthew 24:34

So can you now tell me how your supposed Messiah will judge people who never knew anything about him nor had the opportunity to be taught how his government will be?
Because in the absence of such then you should tell me the BENEFITS of this information you're carrying in your head otherwise you're not different from the mad woman to me o!

Steep:
you are ignorant man!
Paul is talking about the inherited sin from Adam that is attributed to all mankind.

Now you're trying to argue blindly out of your arrogance!
This is why Jesus told us not to give you such holy things because instead of showing appreciation you will turn back to fight us for enlightening you! Matthew 7:6

Steep:
which sin did David commit in his mother's womb

I want to believe you know the meaning of the highlighted!

Steep:
It is the sin nature that is passed to all men not because all have sinned but because Adam sin.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

This is not talking about sins committed by individuals but the sin nature passed to all men.

Remember Paul said "FOR ALL HAVE SINNED".
So is the fetus in the womb part of the "ALL" that "HAVE SINNED" or excluded?

MindHacker9000:
This youtube video has loads of research findings by top historical researchers if you have data to watch the whole video. Rome already had the library of Aristotle before they conquered Israel and it does make sense for them to take the library of the Temple Old Testament scrolls from Jerusalem to Rome and keep it in their secret chamber from where they wrote the New Testament and created a FAKE Jewish Messiah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

In the video it says the Romans took the original Old Testament Scrolls away from the the Temple in Jerusalem and kept it in the private chambers of their palace in Rome where no one was allowed to see it.

What is the difference between you and the mad woman in the picture?
She's carrying luggages on her head but others around her don't know the usefulness of her loads?


Satan is just using this fabricated stories to block you from getting the BENEFITS of being one of Jesus' disciples!

So tell me what you're BENEFITTING from this false stories!

Steep:
It is the sin nature that is passed to all men not because all have sinned but because Adam sin.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

This is not talking about sins committed by individuals but the sin nature passed to all men.

Here the highlighted answers your first question!

Steep:
So a baby had sinned how? What law has a baby broken?

So David is a sinner even while in his mother's womb!

Steep:
Answer the question

Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only group given the spirit to interpret God's word so whoever feels like resisting them is loosing a lot!

This is the explanation behind all the Bible quotations pointing to the fact that mankind is doom.

God doesn't have any business with whoever comes out of Adam's body because through Adam's rebellion we have all become unholy so we don't merit God's glory {Romans 3:23} but out of His infinite mercy God took the initiative to draw us closer to Himself while we are yet sons and daughters of the rebels (Adam and Eve) {Romans 5:8} this means God will use a means to redeem mankind back to the lost glory so through the death of Jesus Christ we can connect our heavenly father again as His beloved children! John 1:12

What happened to babies?

Well our death is not due to the sins we commit in our lifetime NO it's due to the sin we inherited from Adam {Romans 5:12} so all humans whether a fetus in the womb or an adult has inherited Adamic sin {Psalms 51:5} that's why God told the Israelites to dedicate their babies to him and start teaching them His Holy writings once they're able to speak {Deuteronomy 6:4-7} by so doing an Israelite has proved that the child doesn't belong to him but to the God to whom the child is dedicated so each parent must strive really hard to Keep their children under the mighty hand of God through teaching not of their own thoughts but God's word! Psalms 127:1-3

So we are all sinners not due to any sin we're commiting presently but through Adamic sin, the problem most people bring upon themselves now is that while God is working towards our salvation to redeem us from the sin we inherited many are adding more to it by doing things abominable before God that's why God's word said they will be forgotten when God's richly blessings come with His kingdom {Psalms 9:17} but God will keep those who strive to please him in His memory book! Malachi 3:16; Revelations 20:15

Please we humans that concludes that babies are innocent but from God's standpoint all Adam's descendants are sinners no matter the age!

Steep:
The fool said (in his heart) there is no God.

Psalms 14:1

thankgod460:
You have not respond to my questions. You can't tell me God reveals it to you via Holy spirit and you wouldn't be able to explain. I read bible as well and I hate over exaggeration on things people don't have insight. If Holy spirit reveals it to at share more light on it.. let hear from you.

It's your arrogance that's depriving you from getting what you need, don't worry someone perhaps your own child will ask you this same question don't forget to say "i don't know" then see how seriously that child of yours will hold the faith you proclaim!

I repeat humble yourself, tender an APOLOGY and i must not deprive you of what rightfully belongs to you!

Steep:
See, who cannot ever answer the question 'what sin do babies comit' saying someone is ignorant.
You are a clown.

Had it been you politely asked in this manner it will be a sin on my part to withhold the answer from you but instead you directed the question to me as if i'm the one who penned down those words.

Steep:
What sin did you commit in your mother's womb

So tender an APOLOGY for your rudeness and i wouldn't have any reason to deprive you of what Jesus said i must give you FREELY!

Steep:
Romans 3 vv 23 is talking about all humans that knows what is good and what is evil.
The previous verse explained the context.
Your are an arrogant man who know nothing.

Romans 5:12

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned!

Why is it so difficult for you to humble yourself to gain WISDOM?

@ oteneaaron & MindHacker


Below is a pic of one of the world's greatest researchers, she has gathered many things that she keeps as personal belongings but her properties may seem worthless to you.
Please who will take time to study what she's carrying just to know what's in he beautiful luggages?