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The question i want to ask is
"did the so called bro imọlẹ beat Alfa's wife?"
Because if he did then he's the one who invited trouble!

rottennaija:
Pick any activities, "like banning singing laughing on Sunday" or "the clapping of hands when a disfellowship person is reinstated" and you will see religious leaders and teachers providing "proves beyond reasonable doubts" why those activities are unscriptural and you see the members claiming their have proven beyond reasonable doubts why does events are unscriptural.

Please go straight to your point, i wasn't born a JW, i'm a convert and i've not seen anything they practice that's out of the scriptures so what exactly do you think JWs are doing that's not scriptural?

oteneaaron:
Interesting.
But how safe are the countless children who have been sexually molested by pedophiles who abound in your religion?
And when these pedophiles in your midst strike, you don't report them to the police, but try to cover it up so as not to shame your organization - just like it happened in Australia and other countries.
Or is that also part of the benefits too?

Oh i never saw this in time before taking my leave!
Of course whatever could makes people to let go of vengeance is of great benefit to mankind! Do you think keeping records of evil and nursing it until it escalates to killings does anything good to the human society?
Meanwhile in a family when anything happens what proves that the family is united is their ability to quench troubles within themselves. So unlike you who feels like taking revenge and thereby prolonging the troubles God's people have chosen to resolve all their cases within themselves so they don't have to start killing one another just because of blunders they can easily resolve within themselves! Isaiah 2:3-4

oteneaaron:
How about the countless people that have died believing many of your old and revamped doctrines?
Like when people sold their homes and didn't go to school because your religion taught that the world was ending in 1914, 1925, and in 1975?
Or isn't that part of the benefit(s) too??

Selfishness is your problem so you need to be schooled on this topic of BENEFITS!
Some people have trained their conscience to the point of letting go of worldly possessions that billions around you are killing one another just to gain and are you still blind to see that if 70% of the world's population have that same line of thought life will be lot easier?
Imagine 70% of people in your neighbourhood decides to let go of worldly possessions just because of their faith {Luke 18:22} do you think there will be thieves around you?
My friend, wise people think far than foolish ones who only see things that's right in front of them! Isaiah 55:8-9

aribisala0:
No Jesus is Ogun's small brother

There's no need for fruitless arguments.
Both of them are spirit persons so it's either we judge through the number of adherents they're able to gather globally in their names! Act 1:8

Of course it's alcoholic!

Our fans are back on track!

aribisala0:
Yes
But Ogun is greater

Where Jesus wants to fight Ogún will vanish like solid turned gas!
Both spirits were brothers in heaven before the rebellion separated them but Jesus (Michael) is the first born of all angels so they all respect his presence anytime, anyday anywhere because he was their Creator!

aribisala0:
Ogun is greater than Jesus

He is a CHRISTIAN!
Jesus ordered his followers not to go into the way of the nations or Samaritans {Matthew 10:6} WHY? Because those are spiritists and the Christians need to take permission before entering any house {Matthew 10:12} definitely the so called Pastor never took permission before entering that place therefore he's on his own!

GodIsDead:
Oh wow, a round of applause for Jehovah's houseboy Maximus69 aka TATIME. I would have awarded you a medal, but your detective skills here are quite frankly like that of an amateur
I never ever conveyed the fact that this is a new moniker. If you're interested, I'm also TheArranger, Judas1X and Adrammelech
And when next you want to talk about Atheism, please understand that Atheism is not a religion. Atheists doesn't promise you imaginary castles in the sky. Atheism is simply a lack of belief in gods. That's all!
Farewell, MaxDHouseboy. It was fun while it lasted

Thanks for sharing your time with me Sir, it's a pleasure having this discussion with you.
But as for the underlined!
I'm Maximus69, TATIME is a friend of mine that often join in discussions, he became an elder in the congregation of JWs and that's why he quit Nairaland. So i deleted my own account including the Gmail due to disturbances from some who often beg for financial assistance after getting my mail address!

Thanks once again Sir, hope to share some time with you in the future on this same forum!

cornelboy:
Yeah it's not only the JWs that don't agree with hell fire dogma.
I know some US pastors that were removed from office because they told their congregation that Hell didn't exist but imaginary.

Thank you o!
I wonder what the Apostates will say about such people who have made their research regarding the doctrine of Hellfire.
I wasn't comfortable myself with this teaching when i was still a Muslim but i don't have any options, i know everlasting life could logically be a gift to the righteous and not the wicked!

cornelboy:
Yeah i fully understand.
I watched a video about how to deal with them today. They are like poison....

You may wonder why i'm not having any difficulty with the Apostates and their troubles, well it's because they're the ones who built my interest in the truth unknowingly to them!
While i was a Muslim i heard of "CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS" i knew Jesus never fought any wars neither did he support fighting to kill opposers so i began wondering "who are these CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS and what type of weapons are they using?"
In the army our primary duty is to make the enemies surrender their weapons not to kill them! Killing becomes the last option when the enemies refuses to retreat or surrender.
In fact we mostly kill our own fellow soldiers whom we discovered is not having the same mind regarding the war with us than the captured enemies. So if we capture an enemy soldier our target is to find out certain things from him not kill but we don't spare enemies discovered in our own camp!
The JWs are the most harmless religionists on this planet yet they're the strongest at heart so i began to observe them from a distance then i ran into the Apostates!
They will say a thousand and one thing against the JWs but not one single thing in their favour that's when i began noticing how toxic these people are. Because i know within myself that if all the religionists on this planet are JWs 95% of the world's problem would be easily solved leaving the remaining 5% like death, sickness and natural disasters.
It wasn't long before an old JW became my friend, he was the one who made me see that i wasn't as intelligent as we used to see ourselves in the intelligence. He gave me the key to see through the hearts of Apostates!
He said "just ask them for a better performing group than this one they're condemning and see how frustrated they'll become"
The first time i asked an Apostate that question he almost hit me then he remembered i'm still serving in the army so he angrily went away. How can such a simple question lead to frustration?
After all you're my friend and you should be able to present just any better group (at least the one you're worshiping with) but Apostates often loose their sanity at the hearing of this simple question so whenever i found anyone who hates JWs i will ask him/her the same question, if he mentions a group then i will know that he's not an Apostate but as for the Apostates they always go mad at that question!

Everything the JWs believe perfectly match with that of the army with the exemption of KILLING!
They're the best in peacemaking as they conquer their enemies without the use of FORCE, WEAPONS or INTIMIDATION through numbers of casualties. Rather they will make their own enemies not only surrender but vow never to take up weapons against anyone again!
My brother i said to myself "YES! If there is any man who ever walked this planet in the name of Jesus Christ then there can't be any group best discribed as his SOLDIERS than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!"

So my becoming a JW is like switching from one army camp to another, now i fight for Jesus and instead of using physical weapons i go with my SPIRITUAL SWORD (BIBLE)

rottennaija:
See the bolded? Even the hell fire believe can also be backed with the scriptures beyond reasonable doubt. The Doctrine that Jesus is God can also be back up beyond reasonable doubts in the scriptures.

I thought you're talking about their teachings not backed up with the scriptures, if it's about arguments then know that it's not only JWs that doesn't agree with HellFire teachings and JWs never denied that Jesus is a God for it is written in their Bible.

cornelboy:
I've deleted it. I think you should delete it too.

Please the hatred Apostates had for JWs is unimaginable so don't allow them to contact you because they're dangerous!
On social media like this they may put on the smileys as if they're happy but inwardly they're full of bitterness and they're ready to hurt any JW at the slightest opportunity!

cornelboy:
I haven't Sir.

Copied, please delete immediately!

cornelboy:
Can you tell me how you ended being a witness. Cos it's unbelievable that a Muslim could convert like that. It's a miracle.

My brother it's a long story.
Please have you sent and received messages from Janosky?

cornelboy:
Are these what you called satanic doctrines?
If you're really looking for church organization with satanic doctrines, i think you should look elsewhere
Like the Catholics that TAKE VIRGIN MARY, a mere human AS THE MOTHER OF GOD .
They even worship statues and have all sort of lawless practices.

Jesus said:

Let your light shine before all men! Matthew 5:14-16

Chapy9billion:
The Jehovah's witnesses you are castigating here are 100% better than you and any religion today. I have seen, heard and read on newspapers of pastors, imams, atheist and every other religion except Jehovah's witnesses that are involved in greater crimes of ritual killings, mob actions, extortion, stealing, manipulation, kidnapping. I'm yet to see one Jehovah's witnesses in the news for crime committed. Jesus said you will be hated on account of my name, Jehovah witnesses are the most hated people on earth, yet they don't kill, fight, participate in wars, collect tithes and offerings (like your criminal pastors) or even join politics. Please leave them alone, they are the only group of people living truly like Jesus Christ

Even if they failed to accept the truth others will see the light from far distance!

In Israel women are not allowed to take the position of Priests so a woman can't become their High priest. But in other cultures women do take the position of Priests in their shrines that's why Apostle Paul emphasized by saying:

But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1Corinthians 11:3
In Christianity
@ Christ has authority over all men.
@ Men has authority over women.
@ God has authority over Christ (Jesus)

So just as Jesus has no say except what his God and Father decreed, the women in the congregation has no say over the men and the men in the congregation has no say above Jesus.

That's why Jesus never appointed a female Apostle {Luke 6:13-16} we shouldn't forget that Jesus has prayed fervently over the night before chosing only males! Luke 6:12

In other cultures they may have female Priests so Apostle Paul emphasized that the women in the congregation must learn in silence {1Corinthians 14:34} and whatever they want to know regarding the organizational arrangements and appointment of ministers in the congregation they should ask their husbands at home! 1Corinthians 14:35

So if we are talking about the Christianity in harmony with the Acts of Apostles, women are not supposed to minister over the congregation!

Dtruthspeaker:
As old as you are, if you still can not discern "Right" from "Wrong", then your life is already a waste.

I want to believe you're a teenager, that's why you're so arrogant that you can't admit you're wrong.
Apart from Adam Jesus is the second PERFECT man to ever walked this planet, that's why only him can save (redeem) obedient mankind from Adamic sin.
I don't know why this simple truth seems too difficult for you to accept and if you want to argue it please present your argument not running away and throwing insults here and there!

Dtruthspeaker:
No reasonable person learns from fools as you have proven to be!

And, if as old as you are, you still can not discern "Right" and "Wrong", then your life is already a waste.

It's not about throwing tantrums my friend, if you don't know what the Bible really teach you need to calm down and learn.
Only Jesus is perfect all other humans were declared righteous by their fine WORKS not because they were perfect.

achorladey:
The below is enough. Just one scripture will do as proof

My disguised fan, i know you're trailing me up and down on this forum but let it be between rottennaija and i for the moment.
Thanks for trailing me i really appreciate!

rottennaija:
I don't need to. These are the beliefs JWs have which you are aware of and they do not have scriptural backing. I want to belief you must have gone through my posts, you will see a lot of these discussed.

Guy stop deceiving yourself, i was a stubborn Muslim but everything the JWs believe was proven beyond reasonable doubts that's why i succumb to the teachings.
You can ask me any question here now on this neutral ground and let's see who is lying!

GodIsDead:
FORCE

noun

physical power or strength possessed by a living being:
He used all his force in opening the window.

strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence:
to use force to open the window; to use force on a person.

strength; energy; power; intensity:
a personality of great force.

verb (used with object), forced, forc·ing.
to compel, constrain, or oblige (oneself or someone) to do something:

to force a suspect to confess.
to drive or propel against resistance:
He forced his way through the crowd. They forced air into his lungs.

verb (used without object), forced, forc·ing.
to make one's way by force.

here knock yourself out: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/force

Now I ask again: where is your evidence that your God exists?

Guy i just wanted to psych you a little.

I already knew you're one of the usual atheists changing monikers on this forum like new year clothes.

When next you want to talk about Jesus remember to include what you've learned from me today:
Jesus talked about BENEFITS of faith in our invisible God. So without visible benefits whatever you cooked up remains nonsense and ingredients to any right thinking person!

Farewell!

oteneaaron:
Benefits you say?
What I know is that your doctrines are always changing.
A teaching you might receive this coming Sunday during the watchtower indoctrination session might likely become obsolete in a few years time.
You call it the truth, but how can "truth" be always changing when it is supposed to be a constant?
Isn't that the benefit you receive?
Consistently changing beliefs and doctrines??

Tell your friends how welcomed i will be in any country where my fellow believers lives.
Tell him i'm safe when there's trouble between Buhari and Macron i am 100% safe with my JW brothers in France.
Tell him that all those adhering to the so called "ever changing" beliefs of those eight old men in America have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe.
Tell him that in the place where only JWs live the police have no business there because we can handle our cases amicably within ourselves!

Now i'm asking all of you, please tell me what benefits you're getting from your so called FREEDOM?

GodIsDead:
Why should I indulge your ignoramus questions when you have been avoiding my questions for pages now?

Do you now understand that it's not ability to communicate in another man's language that proves you're educated.
A Boko Haram member may simply feel threatened by what a misinformed churchgoer said about his God and the next thing is WEAPONS! Tell me what is the essence of the education such a stupid fellow has if he can't ignore harmless noisemakers?
Dude you don't know anything!

GodIsDead:
If you are that desperate to prove you're not a circus act, then start by providing objective evidence of your God. I'm not having any ignoranum discussion with you until you do

Dude you have no business with my God it's me that you wanted to prove how free you are to so go ahead and prove to me that your so called freedom is worthwhile!

GodIsDead:
Duh... The Christians?

Now is time to prove how EDUCATED you are my friend:
What is the meaning of the word FORCE?

oteneaaron:
No, not Sunday school.

During weekdays as a JW, he attends the Theocratic Ministry School.

Then every Sunday, he goes thru a Question and Answer indoctrination session using a journal called the Watchtower.

Sorry you forgot to add that after all these there's lots and lots of BENEFITS that neither you nor all those professors that are deceiving you can get!

See how you're deceiving yourself?
With all your epistle you're unable to deceive me the slave of God, and after trying hard but frustrated you resort to childishness.
Doesn't that prove to you that my God is great?
Come on beat my intelligence and prove to me that my God hasn't equipped me enough to ridicule your useless researches!

GodIsDead:
How is it madness to demand that I talk to your God? Or you think your God can't communicate with me? You don't believe in God again?

GodIsDead:
Stamp collectors aren't infringing on my basic human rights or forcing me to collect stamps!

WOW! Now you're talking like a real psychopath! And who is forcing the concept of God on you?

GodIsDead:
After making a spectacular fool of yourself, this was your best retort? Damn bro, you really need to throw in the towel. You've said a lot of dumb shit since the inception of this thread, but this right here takes the cake

My friend i will school you when it comes to EDUCATION because it was meant to bring great benefits to those longing for it not just some useless informations of no benefit!

GodIsDead:
When you present the benefits of not collecting stamps, then I will

Do you go about arguing about STAMPS?