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Kumuyi is trying to bridge the gap between his church and others after seeing how foolish he has been for decades.
Adeboye is regarded as Daddy G.O even by other sects claiming denominations among the Christendom Churches while Kumuyi has been relegated from the scene.
The diplomatic approach Adeboye is using is making some of his followers popular and at times ordaining them to own their own churches. Kumuyi has been selfish and self-centered all through. So by the time all the products of Adeboye are making him their father in the Lord (Daddy G.O) Kumuyi' followers are nowhere to be found.
That's why the angry man left Deeperlife because he couldn't just believe that Kumuyi who has been teaching them that only Deeperlife is holy can welcome pastors ordained by other churches to come and preach before Deeperlifers.
Where are his own disciples?

sonmvayina:
God denies King David the ability to build the temple because he “shed blood in war.” How would Jesus be able to enter into New Jerusalem if he came back with a sword and a vestibule drenched in blood? How would he usher in the rebuilding of the temple—or be the new temple—if he came back to slay sinners and shed blood in war?

The book of Revelation of the New Testament says Jesus will come again “to make war” and that his clothing will be “drenched in blood,” which is another inconvenient claim not supported by the Hebrew prophecies of the Messiah.

The one and only group that can answer these questions using the Bible are Jehovah's Witnesses but since you want to argue with Churchgoers i'll leave you with them!

kingxsamz:
Lmao, what's this supposed to mean?

Stop deceiving yourselves!
Your attendance on Nairaland daily to argue VOLUNTARILY about God is an indisputable proof of RELIGIOSITY in your veins!

Image123:
You can be religious without being a Christian, let me keep it as simple as that because of your brain seizures.

Excellent 100%!

YES! There's no sane human that's not religious in any way.
Beings religious isn't all about people's believe but what they're convinced or carried along to do RELIGIOUSLY!

Truvelisback:
He is a JW member, they are very good at twisting the truth to suit their belief.

If you choose to go without food there's no problem but it's no business of those who are eating their own food.
You said "JWs are good at twisting the truth to suit their beliefs" please don't twist it perhaps it will yield fine fruit for you.
Your friend is an Apostate (ExJW) he knows what we teach but he will twist it to make people think what God's word says makes no sense.
Jesus' first century disciples never set anytime for going without food!
The problem they were facing is self-explanatory. Jesus' food is preaching and teaching throughout his neighbourhood {John 4:34} that's the only thing that makes him happy after he was anointed with God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 3:17
So since the first disciples had the same experience with God's Holy Spirit the one and only thing that makes them happy is freeness of speech in order to keep preaching and teaching what Jesus taught them. Act 1:8
But their rulers declared believers in Jesus criminals {John 9:22 compare to Act 4:18; 5:28} making it difficult for the Christians to do what is paramount in their mind: Preaching and Teaching about Jesus.
That's what took away their appetite not that they just don't want to eat food!
Go and preach your fasting to sane individuals try to convince them to go without food simply because they are worshiping your God!

It's impossible for anyone to claim he believes in GOD but doesn't believe in RELIGION!

The truth of this can be found in the definition of the title "GOD" which is "SUPREME BEING"
We are human and as beings we have diverse thoughts and hobbies which affects our actions. The diversity is what often leads to strife and jealousy in our society. The one and only way to PEACE is how much we are able to align our thinking with that of the SUPREME BEING. When we do this the oneness in thought will help us to ensure LOVE, JOY and PEACE within the human society.
But there is no way to ensure such oneness without RELIGION! John 17:20-23
Of course there is FALSE RELIGION {Matthew 7:21-23} meaning the original is somewhere, we can't dismiss the possibility of the ORIGINAL due to the bitter experience we had with FAKE.
So logically it's doesn't make sense for anyone to say
"i believe in God but i don't believe in religion"
What each and everyone needs to do is to find the ORIGINAL when we have all the time, energy and resources to do so! Ecclesiastes 12:1
Thank you!

okeyglm:
If You don't know William Marion branham as one of the old time revivalist, you're missing something..if this thing can be seen as far back as 1933, he gave you all the description, the woman on purple, looks like president or visa president..she will be cruel . Next thing he saw was a great fire and ashes . America gone . There is no time again . The World is about end . Mark my words. He also warned , about the 3 curtains. Iron curtain is Russia, red curtain China and purple curtain America. Even before the rise of these Russia nd china. This is a time of repentance, summit your live to Christ.

My friend i believe God's Kingdom is coming and soon it will be here but as for your branham there's nothing to write home about him!

KNOWMORE56:
... him to continue going on the hunger strike,...

There's time for everything...

YES!
I lost my appetite when my mom died, i couldn't eat when i had typhoid, i slept till the morning and it's called breakFAST.
There is time for everything but when there's nothing affecting my system i don't just starve myself unnecessarily! Matthew 9:15

okeyglm:
if a prophet tells you this says the Lord , A WOMAN WILL LEAD TO END OF AMERICA . YOU SHOULDN'T DOUBT HIM. try and read about William branham

Who is William branham?
I am telling you what is WRITTEN in God's word and it's meaning!

okeyglm:
you don't know what your saying, go read more about seven prophecy of William branham. Kamala harris will lead destruction of America by Russia. hope you have given your life to Christ

Well the director of script in the Bible book of Revelation is Jesus Christ, God is the sole author! Revelations 1:1
The woman in purple according to Revelations 17:4-5 is the world empire of false religion.
Through this woman billions have been sent to their graves earlier. Revelations 17:6

KNOWMORE56:
Don't worry yourself. Everything has it own time, when situations arise that will make you lose appetite, no food on earth will make you feel like eating.

When Jacob was to face his brother revenge mission, nobody told him to forget: wives, children, nama (heard and cattle), sleep and food!

*. Genesis 32 :6 " KJV:And the messengers returned to Jacob, saying, We came to thy brother Esau, and also he cometh to meet thee, and four hundred men with him.
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KJV:Then Jacob was greatly afraid and distressed: and he divided the people that was with him, and the flocks, and herds, and the camels, into two bands;
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KJV:And said, If Esau come to the one company, and smite it, then the other company which is left shall escape.
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KJV:And Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, the Lord which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country, and to thy kindred, and I will deal well with thee:
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KJV:I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which thou hast shewed unto thy servant; for with my staff I passed over this Jordan; and now I am become two bands.
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KJV: Deliver me, I pray thee, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau: for I fear him, lest he will come and smite me, and the mother with the children."

Please convince him to continue going on the hunger strike, it's like my trouble has been too much for him and his thread!

Uptownerd:
Who did the census?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
You're here trying to convince religionists that the Bible billions of people are carrying up and down doesn't worth it. Yet you're still asking who did the census when i said 99% of people on this planet are religious!
Do you truly need a census to know that 99% of people around you don't truly believe in the existence of God?
If they do how come crime rate is high globally?
Who are the criminals?

mhmsadyq:
CAN is clearly a nuisance to our national polity, just as their members are a nuisance on Nairaland. If they have the balls, let them mobilize their members, form their own party and vote for their own cadidates. Why is it so difficult for these people to do!

They are not followers of Christ because Christ has nothing to do with the world's politics! John 15:19; 17:14; 18:36
Whenever you see people meddling in the political affairs of the world know that they have no business with Jesus, rather they are agents of the person who said:

“I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. If you, therefore, do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.” Luke 4:6-7

So it's Satan's agents that always argue, fight or kill their fellowman for POLITICS! Revelations 6:3-4

Uptownerd:
Alright.

It's OK!

Uptownerd:
Lol... Racism? Hmmm.
I know you are just trying to shift the goal post. See how you just magically brought racism into a link back to our site. We are really very proud of your reasoning skills.

Well 99% on this planet are religious, so far you do things because others around you does then you're simply religious.
Only FAITHFUL ones can convince the religious and gullible around them to see solutions to problems affecting everyone but the religious only follow blindly.

Uptownerd:
Despite seeing a website link in my signature, you are still asking?

Lol... I hope you apply the same curiosity when next you read the Bible. Maybe try reading between the lines and you will realise that you have been reading and understanding it all wrong.

Your signature means nothing to me, what matters is the thoughts running through your heart and how far you're able to present a permanent solution to the problems facing the entire human race.
In the absence of that your signature is as worthless as the writings of the fowl on the ground!

Uptownerd:
Please visit https://uptownerd.com for more interesting information and articles on diverse religious and non-religious thrilling articles that will blow your mind away.

RACISM is your problem!
There's a lot of differences between a religious person and a faithful person.
But because most of you guys don't know how to distinguish between believe and credulity you summed up everything in your shallow thinking assuming your resolved it all about FAITH!

Uptownerd:
Lol... Dodging questions is your M.O

If you are here in Nigeria, talking about Israel i think you need to identify yourself first before questioning others around you regarding what they believe!
So you've been the one asking questions the asking since, why not try to answer for once!

Workch:
Isreal is not a Christian country

There is no Christian country in the world!

MindHacker9000:
We can talk to GOD Almighty directly HE will hear us.

4 different accounts of The Resurrection of the same person in the 4 gospels and no one actually saw the resurrection take place.

Cannot believe I believed this lie for decades!

In Matthew: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary saw an angel. "Come and see the place where he lay. "He has risen""
In Luke: The women saw 2 men.
In John: [Notice there was no angel or young man. Here it was just Mary Magdalene, Peter and the other disciple]
"Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.". "So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple". "Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb". "The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen". "Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside". "Then the disciples went back to where they were staying"

The highlighted!
You never believe the book in the first place just as i never believe anything written in the Qu'ran from inception. I only followed my people to the mosques back then and whenever anything is read in the Qu'ran we'll all chant
"Allah Akbar"
Just as misinformed churchgoers like you will chant
"Halleluyah"
Because you were following the crowd like majority of gullible followers in such a gathering.

The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST and you can't trust if it's just about following the crowd!
Don't think everyone was just following the crowd gullibly like you, all smart people going to the churches had a targets it's only majority of gullible followers like you thought their is FAITH in the churches.
So no matter what you say you'll still see the smart ones who has a target attending churches even though they don't believe in the existence of God!

Uptownerd:
Who Wrote the Bible?

Who are you?

Uptownerd:
So, who told you that God abandoned the Israelites?
You seem to be too sure.

Who told you things that happened to Israel is in ancient times?
Well it's the same book (Bible) that says Israel was the chosen nation {Exodus 5:1} that says the same God who chose them has abandoned them due to their unfaithfulness after many prophets has been sent to help them {Matthew 21:23; 23:37-38} they're like any other nation now no longer God's CHOSEN people.
So my friend the name ISRAEL became significant due to what is found written in the book (Bible) therefore if someone now quote the same book to show you when the same God said He has abandoned them i think you should borrow a leaf from there!

Uptownerd:
So, what's your business then with the God of the Israelites?
Remember that the Israelites are still worshipping the God you talked about. Why are you not a Judaist but a Christian?

Wow!
So what exactly is your point?
Is it because the God of Israel has abandoned the faithless nation that makes their God not worthy to be worshiped or followers of His Son should completely rule out the true God because Israel failed to hold onto the Holy One?
Well the true God has condemned that nation.
After their leaders conspired to kill Jesus the prophet Moses promised them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so whoever wants to continue being a worshiper of the true God must forgo Judaism and join the people with whom God established the New Covenant CHRISTIANS!
That's why God's angel tore the large curtain of the room where he was staying in the temple. Matthew 27:51 compare to Exodus 26:31-33
Ever since then the nation and whatever they're doing has nothing to do with the true God!

God condemned that nation long ago so as a nation Israel have no business with the true God again! Matthew 23:37-38
God has chosen another nation better than Israel! Matthew 21:43

AntiChristian:
Sir, where did Adam brought death from? Was death created by Adam? Is death a subject of Adam or God?

According to the Bible God told Adam:
"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die." Genesis 2:17
God just gave Adam the power over death.
Someone or something becomes your subject when you've gotten what to subdue it, and that's what God just gave Adam. So Adam subjected himself and all his descendants to death by giving his life into the hand of death over which he has the power to keep as a slave forever if he didn't eat the forbidden fruit!

AntiChristian:
And how did Jesus took death away when your book says death killed him and same death still dey kill people?

Jesus took the power away from death when he laid down his perfect human soul to redeem mankind (who has been sold into slavery under death) he proved his victory when he resurrected from the death and keep on living till now. As for mankind death will be no more when it's conqueror (Jesus) comes to establish his kingdom on earth!

AntiChristian:
Lastly, Adam descendants means we all came from the union of Adam and Eve.
Jesus descendants really means what?

We are all Adam's descendants by birth but each person has the right to choose the father of our choice if we continue working hard to remain obedient to God like Jesus did then we prove to be Jesus' children, the same way all disobedient humans remains Adam's descendants. So just as Adam died forever all his descendants will die but those that have switched over to Jesus will surely be resurrected to live forever like their father Jesus!

AntiChristian:
And where did Jesus himself says we need to leave being Adam's descendants and become his descendants?

"For even the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” Mark 10:45

Jesus has given his perfect human soul in exchange for many who will later continue to live forever (in his name) as his own children such ones are no longer Adam's children!

So whether they're still alive or sleeping in death everlasting life is certain for all those that are willing to accept Jesus as their Master, Lord and King! John 11:23-26 compare to Philippians 2:10

Truvelisback:
U are the one complicating it. U don't ans questions in a straight way.

Never mind my comments that's complicating, your friends are here they will come and answer you in a straight way!

Cashsteady:
If religion is not scam tell me why countries like Nigeria are still underdeveloped ravaged with poverty despite the fact that we are the most religious...
If American say if anyone de annouce religion today will be allowed into their country for free. You think most Nigerians won't do it??. Let's stop deceiving ourselves and tell ourselves the plain truth.. nothing like Christianity

Most people think TRUTH is costly whereas it's the cheapest anywhere you go.
The problem is that 99% of people who often talk as if they're starving for TRUTH always turn their backs on TRUTH at the slightest opportunity.
That's why i highlighted the part i want to talk about in your thread.
Now the important question is:
ARE YOU YOURSELF PREPARED FOR THE TRUTH?
Note that the TRUTH doesn't attract likes and shares because those giving likes and shares are imperfect humans like you and me so it's whatever appeals to each person as in desire is what they like or share not what is true!
Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE! John 14:6
But scammers (Satan's agents) are everywhere using Jesus' name to extort money from foolish people. Matthew 7:21-23; 24:11 compare to 2Timothy 3:13

Please keep your Bible aside and let's reason with our God's given brains, because i can prove to you that Christianity is just the group name some people in Antioch gave the one and only PURE WORSHIP on planet earth. Act 11:26

Please feel free to ask any question that comes to your mind regarding CHRISTIANITY!

GOOD MORNING!

Truvelisback:
Do u mean that when a person fast and sit where people are eating, it means he/she is starving?

You people love deceit so continue deceiving yourselves.

Truvelisback:
Oga, Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights. He was on fasting when satan tempted him.

Is this not what you said when i tried to enlighten you further?

Ògbẹ́ni go and continue with your fasting, it's not a matter of argument, when you've heard the voice of WISDOM {John 10:4} but rejected it what else do you want me to do?
Even Jesus himself can only pass the message he can't force it into anyone's brains.
So go and continue with your fasting if what you've heard doesn't appeal to you!

Kumuyi will resolve it for them!

Truvelisback:
Oga, Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights. He was on fasting when satan tempted him.

No wahala at least Moses {Exodus 34:28} Elijah {1Kings 19:8} and Jesus {Matthew 4:1-2} did the same thing: 40 days and 40 nights.
None of them did it where anyone can see them so i've solved the riddle here, there's no servant of God who fasted where people will be eating while they are starving.
Hen go and do the same in lonely places nah if you want to do like them!

Truvelisback:
Aside that, satan knew that Jesus was on fasting and he knew Jesus was very hungry and weak physically too, that was why he tempted Jesus.

The real truth is that Jesus wasn't fasting at all!

Note that after his baptism it was God's Holy Spirit that led him to a lonely place (wilderness)

Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. Matthew 4:1-2 NIV

Compare to

Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. Luke 4:1-2 NIV

According to Matthew's understanding whoever spent 40 days and 40 nights without food must be fasting.
According to Luke since Jesus never intended to fast it's not a fasting at all, that's why he omitted that word "fasting" in his own account.
This same thing happened to Moses when God took him to a lonely place for 40 days and 40 nights {Exodus 34:28} Moses didn't record it as fasting because it wasn't his intentions to go without food.
So if it's not Jesus' intention to go into the wilderness but taken their by the Holy Spirit it must have been the same thing that happened: God was teaching Jesus how he will spend the rest of his days as a human who is now about to abandon his job (carpentry) for the Good News of God's kingdom.
That's why nobody can state how fasting regarding food should be practiced because Jesus never taught his disciples how to go about it!

Satan only wanted to seize the opportunity to make Jesus use his God's given powers for selfish reasons that's why Jesus reminded Satan that even Moses and Elijah who are just an ordinary human (not a supernatural being like Jesus) survived without food for 40 days and 40 nights because God was with them! 1Kings 19:8

If you want to know the real meaning of FASTING please read the Bible book of Isaiah 58:1-7 then we'll discuss on it later!

jesusjnr2020:
True. You can imagine that Jesus was surrounded by food in that sense, yet He lived by God's Word alone.

You're free to call me anything you like after all your friend Peace is still very much around, Jesus had no food in the wilderness.
That's why Satan who knows that Jesus has the power to turn stone (inedible) to bread (food)