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sagenaija:It's like you need help to learn like a child in the nursery classes, so let's pick it one by one. [1]Is Jesus a messenger of God? YES or NO [2]Did God say Jesus is His Son? YES or NO Let's start from there before further discuss! ![]() |
DeepSight:The true God does not tolerate interfaith so His worshipers follow His footstep. God's law commanded the Israelites to cut off any rebel in there gathering and never to have anything to do with interfaith. So instead of accusing His worshipers just face the fact that they are obeying the laws of their God as His WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10 ![]() |
DeepSight:That's why you need to study the Bible well because even Jesus was not mention prior to his coming, it was prophecies about the Christ he fulfilled that made him qualified to be the Christ. For instance a Jew can argue from now till eternity that Jesus is not the Christ because there was no prophecy that specifically mention the name "JESUS" rather what Isaiah penned down is "Emmanuel"! Isaiah 7:14 So if it's about mentioning of specific name then Jesus couldn't have qualified to be called the Christ! As regards the Illustration Jesus is talking about how false religious leaders only care for people when people are watching. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing what that prophecy teaches today, they will only come to visit people in their homes and you'll see the changes in gradually whereas your religious leaders (Pastors) who never taught you anything will expect you to act in line with what is common as holiness instead of what you can defend yourself with the scriptures! ![]() DeepSight:Stop deceiving yourself! ![]() It was after you've been scammed big time by the Yahoo Plus big boys that you gave up on your former religion. So if you now gave up on them you need to calm down and look well instead of taking sides with your former pastors who scammed you! ![]() |
Janosky:He wants to know the group practicing what Jesus taught and at the same time he wants to dictate how they should go about their operations! ![]() |
DeepSight:This illustration is talking about how Jehovah's Witnesses LOVE their neighbours! Your religious leaders have robbed you off lots of valuables, they have enriched themselves with your tithes and offerings, their counterparts see you and walk away looking for their own mugus. All these are people you guys do revere as men of God and they keep lying to you that you must pay tenth part of your earnings, first salary of the year and other possessions making life miserable for billions. But the Jehovah's Witnesses (those you people despise so much) will come to your homes and begin taking care of your emotional wounds, they're prepared to give you Bibles and other information materials FREELY, they are prepared to continue visiting you IN YOUR HOMES where your Yahoo big boys never knew nor care. Surely they have proved to be your neighbour, but when it comes to their own brothers who have been baptized in the name of our God, His Son and His active force. We LOVE one another just as Jesus loves us. Meaning JWs are prepared to die for one another when the need arises! John 13:34-35 So you can't expect your neighbour to love you the same way Jesus loves NO! He can only love you as he does himself. Remember Jesus deprived himself of somethings but he never deprived his disciples of anything even when it has to do with his own life. That's what it means to love someone as yourself {Mark 12:31} which totally differ from loving someone as Jesus loves his disciples! John 13:34-35 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
sonmvayina:Well Isaiah called him the Wonderful Counselor and Prince of Peace! I don't think peace can be possible in this world without such a King! Isaiah 9:6-7 sonmvayina:Jesus returned in the year 1914 and ever since then he has been gathering his subjects under one umbrella that's why we now have over 8 million people from different races throughout the earth practicing what he taught, they are Jehovah's Witnesses. Good! Please write such a book and make it work out then you'll have proved that we don't really need Jesus, until then Jesus remains the one and only Prince who can bring about Peace! sonmvayina:After the death of the first pioneers of Christianity a Roman emperor diplomatically seized the opportunity to expand his Kingdom that's why Roman Catholic Church is known till today but that's not what Jesus taught. So it was after 1914 when Jesus returned in spirit that what he taught began manifesting again as he gathered faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella known as Jehovah's Witnesses. Just organize people who believe in what you're saying and let's see how things work out, then Jesus can be forgotten but until then Jesus is Lord over 8, 700, 000 people who are fully prepared to live by his teachings! You always end up insulting people when they disagree with you but try to grow up, you can't continue insulting people simply because they don't buy your idea, first make your idea work just like the Wright Brothers and leave people who will not travel in your flying vessel! ![]() |
Janosky:He doesn't know the meaning of humility! Jesus preached and taught as someone having authority not like the Scribes in the first century! Matthew 7:28-29 So what makes Jesus' teachings unique? Well he doesn't give more than two options so it's either you're with him or against him unlike the religious title chiefs of the first century who will give their listeners several options in the public (you can go to any Bible living Church) Jesus will emphatically say you must follow him (it's either you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses or not a worshiper of our God) Perhaps that makes Jesus not a humble person himself! ![]() |
sonmvayina:Well that's exactly what Jesus has done peacefully with Jehovah's Witnesses today! That's why i keep telling you to go and work on your understanding so that something better than what Jesus did with Jehovah's Witnesses could suffice otherwise there's no other way you or anyone can prove that such a Wonderful Counselor never walked this planet! ![]() |
I remember a late JW who lived in Mushin in the 90s, he has practiced Islam (not just born) for 40 years before his convertion to JW. The only verse that kept hunting him is where Jesus was called "Al-misil" every other word in the Qu'ran was translated to English and other languages except this word "Al-misil" So the first time he found out that Al-misil means Messiah (Hebrews) Christ (Greek) Saviour/Redeemer (English) he said he was shocked since there's no way the translators of Qur'an can explain to anyone that the one called Al-misil "Jesus" is not the Saviour of the world! ![]() |
Yippeedaniel:He presented another illustration to them, saying: “The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’" Matthew 13:24-30 From the day God's organization in heaven was separated from Satan's organization the earth only feel the presence of aliens coming and going to create different religions making their worshipers hate the Israelites (the only nation worshiping God) with passion. Jesus came and established pure worship that will help faithful people from all races, first Satan made sure that Jesus was killed so that he returns back to the spirit world where only his followers can have access to him, then Satan arranged for his agents to start killing Jesus' disciples. This went on for decades until Satan was able to contaminate the pure worship Jesus established. In 1914 Jesus returned in spirit to reorganize his group for the endtime harvest work and instantly the difference became obvious as everyone can SEE globally that there is one group that's totally different from all others! So it's not strange to the children of light that all those in the darkness can SEE the children of light but the most pitiable are those who left the light for darkness surely they will live to regret it for the rest of their existence and form alliance against the light. But why can't they just form a group and start practicing what they felt is missing among the children of light? Well the answer is simple: all those who aren't with the light can never unite for anything good other than envy! Luke 11:23 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
The bone of contention here is not about the teachings or doctrines of any religion because there are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations of Christianity and they all contradicts one another otherwise there's no reason for segregation in the same religion. The major problem Jehovah's Witnesses have with all other religions is what their Founder, Father and God always claim: I am One like no other! Exodus 20:1-3 compare to Isaiah 43:1 This is the same problem Jesus had with people who claims they're worshiping the same God with him, Jesus declared that whoever truly wants to be approved by his God and Father must learn from him! John 14:6 The same problem the first century Christians had with Jews who claimed they're worshipers of Jehovah, the Christians insisted that everyone must practice what Jesus their leader taught otherwise there is no salvation elsewhere! Act 4:12 The same problem all the religions today are having against Jehovah's Witnesses, they're claiming in words and actions that whoever is not ready to worship with them will not see God's Kingdom. So it's not about the teachings or doctrines rather it's about the HERITAGE of God's people who always claim to know it all regarding pure worship ![]() |
sagenaija:The Jews have always believe that God is their FATHER because God called the nation His people {Exodus 5:2} and Israel His son {Hosea 11:1} so they told Jesus that God is their FATHER! John 8:41 Your question in the highlighted? Jesus is like a prophet in their midst {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} but this time around a prophet is claiming that he has a PERSONAL relationship with the same God they've always known {Matthew 11:27} and that whatever their God wants to do He informs him as a special son {John 5:20} making himself somehow important than any other servant of God prior to him. John 3:16-18 Moreover he told them that he existed before Abraham {John 8:58} to whom they're all looking as the father of all those having faith in their God! Romans 4:11 All these is just too much for them to bear from a young man of about 33 years of age. That's why they're having the feeling that he's turning himself to God before them but he kept saying "he was sent" ![]() |
ajoke1824:The thread is dated 2013 meaning 8 years ago even Kumuyi is regretting now that he's been so stupid because other Yahoo big boys are snatching the customers from the oldfashion churchy ideas. RCCG has reversed the case, now women in the church can put on make-up as their so called BORN AGAIN evangelists in music have advanced! ![]()
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sonmvayina:So why quote a book written by men who are Gods themselves for someone who himself or herself is a God? Why can't each person choose whatsoever he or she pleases to do without anyone telling them? ![]() |
Misinformed Churchgoers, Confused religionists! When the same people introduced vaccines for so many other pandemics, your stupid pastors didn't fabricate all these nonsense. When the same people introduced blood transfusion which doesn't guarantee that the receiver will live, your stupid religious title chiefs didn't see anything wrong even when it's boldly written in the Bible that God's servants should abstain from blood! Act 15:29 But all of a sudden a vaccine came due to a pandemic and voilà all of you are dancing after your useless Pastors who have been robbing you of material things. That's your problem! ![]() |
Jesus want people to know him for his teachings not miracles because prophets before him also perform miracles but none is as wise as the world's most wonderful counselor! ![]() |
AntiChristian:Jehovah performed His own once and for all times but Ògún worshipers and Muslims does their own yearly. Secondly it's not all people who claims they're worshiping Ògún that do perform the yearly dog sacrifice just as it's not all Muslims that performs the yearly iléyá sacrifice! If you want to prove that your religion is the truth just present the good works of your religion and how people around you are benefitting from your religion, that's what you can do to beat other religions not speaking abusively of their religion when yours is not different and of no benefit than them! ![]() |
Greenholics:That's why Jesus referred to money as "UNRIGHTEOUS" you're saying "it's not possible" because we are used to the wicked system. The business man will not give everyone equal pay because that's what Satan established after the fall of man. Regarding the illustration you cited Jesus wasn't talking about the wages of workers their but more privilege of service as each is able to manage, the one who can't manage was sacked because he doesn't care about his master's business. This is talking about people claiming they are Christians but aren't ready to do the preaching and teaching work Jesus commissioned. Among Jehovah's Witnesses we have individuals recording over 100 hours of preaching and teaching monthly and we also have many who only report 5-10 hours monthly depending on their circumstances but the one who is inactive are those who only run after money and anxieties of life leaving the work completely. If you're looking for an illustration regarding payment go and read what Jesus said in the Bible book of Matthew 20:1-15 According to Jesus everyone should earn the same that's when nobody can think of going to rob another. Remember it's because of the difference in pay that made some hire security guards with weapons to protect them from the less privileged. That's what this wicked system of things is promoting! ![]() Greenholics:That's the system we find ourselves so Jesus is not condemning those who became rich due to the setting of this system rather he is telling them to concentrate on how to use it wisely not thinking of how to transfer it to someone simply because that one happens to be their child. So the wealthy in God's organization is useful for so many things keeping the organization going. You don't expect God's people to start sharing what was meant for the propagation of the Good News to members so that each can start planning how to enrich their own family nah! We are not Muslims that will gather money and start thinking of how to transfer it to our children. That's why your religion lacks the spirit of preaching and teaching. An average Muslim only focus on his nuclear family, no business with neighbours whether that one is a pagan or not, your people only become envious when they see other religions snatching their followers with preaching. Jehovah's Witnesses use the wealth to train all members to become effective preachers and teachers of God's word. We don't promote materialism!/ ![]() Greenholics:It was his underwear so we know that it's not man-made because there has never been any cloth in the history of mankind that's not sewed. The giving Jesus is talking about is not what you're practicing in your Islam where your people are becoming beggars everywhere all because they believe that the rich must give the poor, rather it's about assisting our fellow believers who have the love of pure worship to meet up with the requirements whether they have little or much, that's why each JW globally have quality Bible and other necessary materials to preach and teach no matter the condition of the country they live and you can never find one JW begging in the streets because it's an insult to our God! Greenholics:The highlighted shows you don't understand what is happening at all, but i'll help you. Ògún Priests do put on palm tree leaves and their members will be following their priest going from place to place, even though there are billionaires among them the priest will be asking passersby for money saying to whoever gives him money: "Ògún á gbè ọ́ ọ" So don't even go there because my own mother come from the family of hunters who worships Ògún and i've followed her to their festivals several times when i was still around 7-10 years of age, i know that Ògún Priests have a day that they do put on their attire to go BEGGING in the streets! ![]() Greenholics:You don't understand what we're discussing at all but i'll help you. Things meant for the worship is not to be distributed because that's not the purpose for which it was gathered. Remember the poor widow that dropped two coins of little value in the treasury box? Jesus said she's the richest in the sight of God! Luke 21:2-4 The temple was built with gold and costly materials, yet this needy widow still contributed her two coins adding to the billions others are contributing and Jesus said she contributed more than everyone. What point was he making? Jesus is emphasizing that no worshiper of God should view the worship as a means of livelihood rather they are all there to contribute their quota not thinking of what they will get from the contributions, in fact Jesus said that's what really makes people happy from the bottom of their hearts knowing fully well that no matter the success of pure worship they are part and parcel of the contributors! Act 20:35 That's why Muslims aren't happy when they're not rich because they feel worthless as the names of contributors are announced with the megaphone while others comes unnoticed by everyone. In pure worship everyone counts because no matter our condition each person contributes to the success of pure worship! ![]() Greenholics:When next you find people on social media ask them about their original. I'm from the family of Ifádùbí in Abéòkúta so when i speak about African tradition i know more than you do. You're just an atheist who wants to raise an argument against Christianity. I saw this in your first move that's why i said "no matter the religion it is a million times better than atheism" i purposely called you out to enlighten you because i know you're not truly interested in Islam you just want to create a confusion among those claiming believers be it Christian or Muslim. That's why you picked me out of all the commentators because i clearly knocked off atheism (your faculty) So when i said "your religion" i just wanted to draw you out since you say you have chosen Islam, i know you're lying! During ọdún ifá in any part of Africa the worshipers must put on white and the snail is their meet that period. Odù ifá mélòó lo lè kì Ṣé Èjì-ogbè ni àbí Ọ̀wọ́nri-wòrì ònílàjà Àkẹ̀sán? My friend just keep your atheism if you don't want to have anything to do with worship i understand but coming to play on people's intelligence thinking you're smart will only work on misinformed Churchgoers and other religionists not Jehovah's Witnesses. Our Bible is not from the Roman Catholic if you want to know the history of the Bible i can help you! ![]() Greenholics:Just calm down and learn my friend, you still have a long way to go. I purposely chose to deal with you because you think your lengthy comment will piss me off but i'm responding to expose you that you're not interested in any form of worship rather you're an atheist. Abraham or Moses didn't establish any form of worship known as Judaism. I told you that Judaism started after the breaking of the kingdom of Israel into two region. The ten northern part began their own form of worship because their King doesn't want them to return to Jerusalem under the King of the southern kingdom. Both region were enslaved by foreigners and by the time they returned to their land they brought some of the cultures of their captors and inculcated into what Moses taught them. That's why the southern kingdom (Judah and Benjamin known as Jews) separated their own form of worship from the rest of Israel, that's what is known as Judaism. Despite all these their worship has been polluted with Babylonian reasonings the only thing they have left that relates to the pure worship Solomon (the last king that ruled the whole twelve tribes) is their Temple but there is confusion because there were several sects each claiming they knew better. So when Jesus arrived to establish pure worship permanently as Moses has foretold centuries before Jesus {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} all the rival sects in Judea formed alliance against him for condemning their teachings! Matthew 23:1-36 In fact Jesus said Jerusalem will be condemned if these people don't forgo Judaism (the confused religious system they initiated decades after their return from Babylon) and accept Christianity! Matthew 23:37-38 That's why Jesus promised those who accepts Christianity that God's promise to Abraham's descendants regarding the rulership of the earth will not change but it's the center where the government house will be situated that will change. Instead of Jerusalem as proposed before Jesus and his co-rulers will move to another destination and from there they will rule the earth! John 14:1-3 Greenholics:Well that's exactly what the God of Israel said he will do to Israel if they go after other gods {Deuteronomy 7:4} so i'm not surprised if his Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10-12} are practicing such as He ordered them! Deuteronomy 13:6-11 So i can't accuse His worshipers because He knows the best reason why He ordered them to do so. But if you want more enlightenment on that i'm still available for you! ![]() Greenholics:It's not about the people who brought the book but the benefits derived from practicing what is found written in the book. For instance a medical personnel today is through learning and reading book from those who knows better. After the enlightenment gotten from the book he will never permit anyone to jeopardize his health no matter how closely related to him. He will kick out the person or leave the place where his health is at risk. But what led to such action? Well it's enlightenment! ![]() Greenholics:You're mistaken my friend! It's civilization that's changing so many things not the white man, before now white men do bit their children but as the world is getting to the routine stage children are rebelling against such treatment and some people are taking it round the globe. Jehovah's Witnesses don't condone such nonsense in our midst so no matter the country we come from we discipline our children to the right perspective! Remember you're talking about what JWs do globally not what some does in Africa, that's why we are known globally as one big and happy family having the same line of thought! John 17:20-23 As for LOVE it doesn't relent from disciplining in righteousness! 2Timothy 3:16 compare to 1Corinthians 13:6 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
DeepSight:Well he actually sent his first century Jewish disciples out to PREACH and TEACH {Matthew 28:19-20} but they must wait for the active force of God that will organize them as a group so that they will continue doing the work boldly and orderly! Act 1:8 Today we are the one and only ORGANIZED group practicing what Jesus laid down: PREACHING and TEACHING. So if you're not connected to us you are on your own! Luke 11:23 ![]() |
sagenaija:It's you that's shying away from facts! John was talking about the allegations levelled against Jesus by the religious title chiefs, not what really happened. Jesus called God his father just as those people did {John 8:41} but what is the bone of contention? Jesus was speaking as God's representative making it sound as if he knows the making of all the laws in Israel and the practical application and nobody can accuse him of breaking it. For instance Jesus condemned their cruel application of the Sabbath exposing their wicked mindset! Mark 3:1-6 Before the Roman authority their accusation is clearly spelt out: The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God. John 19:7 KJV Your TRINITY won't change the fact my friend! ![]() |
sagenaija:According to the four gospels those religious title chiefs wanted Jesus dead by all means so they kept LYING and LYING and LYING, they even organized and payed FALSE WITNESSES to accuse Jesus face to face until their mission was accomplished. So whatever they said about Jesus meant nothing to me because they said a lot about him that's all lies! John 8:44 ![]() |
DeepSight:That's why you need true Christians to TEACH you what Jesus taught otherwise you will be totally confused when someone inquisitive ask you what Jesus meant here: Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:34-38 If you want us to TEACH you we will because it's the work we are assigned to do but if you're not interested there's no problem! ![]() |
sonmvayina:No problem, you were a prince among Ibos in your past life, and now you're back among the Ibos again, shey? You have no problem! ![]() |
sagenaija:This is why the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God So what exactly? ![]() |
sonmvayina:Other races are what in their former life? sonmvayina:Now it's clear what other tribes are in their former lives! ![]() |
walkbrazil4k:Excellent! ![]() |
walkbrazil4k:There's a difference between respecting one's neighbour and form of worship, and accepting their form of worship. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we must respect everyone no matter their religion but we don't accept all forms of worship. So we mustn't disturb anyone from practicing his/her religion but we will never participate in their worship! ![]() |
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sonmvayina:You believe this, right? Can you tell me where you were and exactly what you were doing before you died and reincarnated? ![]() |
sonmvayina:What concerns me with your questions? You advised someone to SLAP people for airing their beliefs, that's what matters to me. That's irrational and intolerant, you also believe in reincarnation nobody slaps you for believing it so why slapping others for what they believe? ![]() |
sagenaija:That's exactly what i'm saying, Jesus never made such claim, they lied! ![]() |
I'm only being sarcastic, the Muslim i quoted knows exactly what i meant! Nígbà ọdún Ògún àjọbọ àwọn abọ̀gún máa ń pa ajá bọ Ògún gẹ́gẹ́ bí àwọn Mùsùlùmí náà ṣe máa ń pa àgbò bọ Allah nígbà ọdún iléyá. Nitori náà kòsí ìyàtọ̀ nínú méjèèjì! ![]() walkbrazil4k: |
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