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AntiChristian:
Awon elebo!

Bẹ́ẹ̀ ni o, àwọn ẹlẹ̀bọ!
Má dàá wọn lohùn jàre, wọ́n fẹ́ràn láti máa pa ajá rúbọ lọ́ dọọdún fún Ọlọ́run wọn bí àwọn mìíràn ṣe máa ń fi àgbò rúbọ sí Ọlọ́run tiwọn náà nígbà ọdún iléyá!

NJyoruba12:
Can’t believe people still believe this nonsense

Well there is a big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers known as Jehovah's Witnesses, they strongly believe this and they are proud to take it to everyone in their neighbourhood.
So when they come to your home please try to reason with them perhaps you can convince them that it's all nonsense.

[quote author=sagenaija post=108150624
It was not the Jews who made the statement in John 5:18. It was Apostle John's analysis THROUGH INSPIRATION that brought about that statement.[/quote]Jesus said to him: “Get up! Pick up your mat and walk.” John 5:8
What has this got to do with calling someone a God?
[quote author=sagenaija post=108150624
The Jews in John 10:33 CLEARLY said Jesus "claim to be God.” "claim to be God.”, "claim to be God.”, "claim to be God.”
If I say you, MaxinDHouse, claim to be a JW would that be putting words into your mouth? I'm simply saying that you said so. Are you going to claim that you understand what those who were eyewitnesses said about Jesus than they did? Are you going down the same route of your GB adding to or subtracting from Scripture to fit your narrative?
NOWHERE in Scripture did it say that:[/quote]The Jews said~
(1) Jesus is a drunkard! Luke 7:34
(2) Jesus is mad? John 10:20
(3) Jesus is a Samaritan! John 8:48
(4) Jesus is working with demons! Mark 3:22
(5) Jesus forbid paying taxes to the authorities! Luke 23:2
If you agree with their statement at John 10:33 Surely you should agree with every other thing they say about him.
I only believe what the faithful Jews said about him, which Jesus himself attested to as authentic:
You are the Son! Son!! Son!!! Of God! Matthew 16:13-18

sonmvayina:
Did a woman that was betrothed to a man suddenly become pregnant by a spirit 2000+ years ago? Do you believe this to be true? Or it's all about faith?

Go and slap anyone around you that believes it just as those USELESS Jews slapped Jesus the promised Messiah (saviour) {Mark 14:65; John 18:22} that's what the scriptures prophesied about him before his birth.
So if you doubt the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) i hope you can go and tear the part in the Hebrew Scriptures {Old Testament) that prophesied all these! Isaiah 53:3; Micah 5:1

sagenaija:
"For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God."
John 5:18 NIV

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
John 10:33 NIV

Those faithless Jews were trying to put words into Jesus' mouth, he said someone is forgiven in their presence {Matthew 9:2-5} and they felt only God could do that so they're angry that Jesus is doing things no prophet prior to his time ever did.

But regarding his true identity Jesus commended Peter who said Jesus is the Son! Son!! Son!!! of God! Matthew 16:13-18

Jesus his one of God's Spirit Sons in heaven and we have found out that he is the Archangel Michael!

This is what people like you want Christianity to be, where some nonentities will just wake up and start telling you what to do and what not to do because you are a Christian.
But real Christianity is about accurate knowledge of truth which is not according to human perspective of what holiness should be!

Voice22:
Christian Women should Not Do Different Styles Or Moan In Bed, It’s A Sin – Pastor Claims
A woman of God has cautioned Christians about the different styles they use in bed and why they should stop.
According to her, the only approved style of sex for Christians is for the man to be on top while the woman lies down without moving.
She explained that any other position apart from missionary is from the pit of hell.
She was heard saying in a video “These things we see dogs doing on the streets is not for humans to do. These are things the devil uses to deceive Christians. Styles used in P0rnography is not for Christians.. I repeat styles is not approved for saints of God just like family planning.” She was heard saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH8jg0a9Bt0

jimiobanta:
You may have more need to study the word of God. For this purpose I have elaborated more on the passages of the scriptures earlier quoted.
Study and have peace.

Gen 35:2-4 ISV 2 Jacob announced to his household and to everyone with him, “Throw away the foreign gods that you’ve kept among you, purify yourselves, and change your clothes. 3 Then let’s get up and go to Bethel, where I’ll build an altar to the God who answered me when I was in distress and who was with me on the road, wherever I went.” 4 So they handed over to Jacob all their foreign gods on which they had been depending, along with the rings that they were wearing on their ears. Jacob buried them under the oak that grew near Shechem.

The first time jewelry was mentioned in the Bible, it was a gift given to Rebecca by Abraham servant in his quest to find a wife for Isaac.
By Jacob's generation, jewelry has become identified with idols and that which should not be worn/used in the presence of God. This indicates use of jewelry is a defilement of the worship process, Jacob intended doing or an abomination which could bring the wrath of God instead of a blessing. Conclusion: Use of jewelry equates Idolatry and a profanity before God

Exo 33:4-5 ISV 4 When the people heard this troubling word, they mourned, and no one put on his ornaments. 5 The LORD had told Moses, “Say to the Israelis, ‘You are an obstinate people, and if for one moment I went up among you, I would put an end to you. Now take off your ornaments so I may decide what to do with you.’”

In this passage, the children of Israel have worshipped a golden calf made from their jewelry, therefore abusing and perverting God's provisions for them. God's judgement, appear not before me in ornaments. Is this judgement a permanent one. It is. God judgement stated is permanent and changes not

We see a consistency with the former passage above. Present not yourself before God decked in jewelleries.

Eze 7:19 KJ2000 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their stomachs: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.

In this passage gold and silver were denigrated by God and discribed as that which cannot save.
God also called gold and silver a stumbling block and the means of His people iniquity

1Ti 2:9 KJ2000 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with decency and propriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Here we see in 1Ti 2:9 a standard to dress modestly and in a manner devoid of worldliness and jewelleries.

1Pe 3:3-5 KJ2000 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of braiding the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in former times the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

This passage of 1Pet 3:3-5 finalized everything that the adornments/ornaments suitable for the people of God is in Godly character.

From the consistency of all passages above, use of worldly adornments such as jewelleries and attachments are not recommended.

Your lengthy comment can't change the fact that God's people used jewelries in the past and so it wasn't condemned by the early CHRISTIANS, what they urged their fellow believers to consider is modesty!

In each society modesty is determined by the culture of the people.
Look at the two women below, they're both believers but in different countries!

tctrills:
I still want to believe that your actions are not a reflection of your faith but I am not sure anymore. You keep bringing your church to defend your actions

You're behaving like a clown walahi talahi!
You're chatting with someone on a faceless forum about faith, he told you what his Master, Lord and King said about a faithless race, you want to accuse him of verbal assault, he quoted what the founder of Christianity said, you ignored and want to impose your own opinion.
How many of your friends remains with you now? Let them come out and prove before everyone that the Jews who treated Jesus and his followers badly are not useless from the standpoint of the God of Israel!
My friend i know you are bitter now, but when you've eaten and drank your choicest drink just sit down and meditate on everything we discussed and reread it all including the quoted and cited verses.
Stop trying to set standards when you don't even know anything about Christianity, this has nothing to do with what you or anyone think is right or wrong, it's what God's ancient servants believe so instead of worrying yourself about what you think is right why not concentrate on what God says is right?

tctrills:
I thought I could help you but I cant, you never learn

Help!
Please stop that crap!
You don't want the truth so there's no need tormenting yourself by asking me questions, we are Jehovah's Witnesses, we're not misinformed Churchgoers that you stylishly set standards for by telling them what to say and what not to say.
I told you "no weapon formed against our faith can succeed, any tongue that rises against us will be silenced, that's the heritage of the servants of our God, and regarding our righteousness (that you're trying to shapen) don't bother yourself because it's from our God" Isaiah 54:17

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
On this thread we are talking about how to identify a group that follows Christ. Members of such group would guard their words.

James 1:26; "If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless."

Proverbs 12:18 - "There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing."

Proverbs 18:21 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits."

Ephesians 4:29; "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear."

Matthew 15:18; "But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person."

You want to argue about the word "USELESS" simply because you're tormented by the things happening now as all your friends ran away instead of presenting to you the group that's practicing what Jesus taught.
Now someone came telling you that Jesus never existed and you're now dragging issues over my response to such a person.
Doesn't that shows you're not even interested in knowing the truth about Jesus and his group?
Well our language is straightforward we call a spade a spade {Matthew 23:17 compare to Galatians 3:1} but we will never raise weapons against anyone nor assault anyone physically for his beliefs or unbelief.

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
Just watch your language. So you would go to Israel and announce that all Jews that don't acknowledge Jesus are useless? We are still correcting you from one and you are commiting another.

My friend, Jews that failed to acknowledge Jesus despite all his credentials are USELESS that's what Jesus taught!
Matthew 22:2-13

tctrills:
"Well i know those useless Jews have infected you with their terrorist mindset so you're gradually getting closer to your grave. Just slap someone for saying what his/her religion teaches and you'll never live to tell the story[color=#770077][/color]! "

Your language is in contrast to everything you preach on nairaland. If this kind of language is OK by your religions believes, it's not OK by mine.
I do not know if there are others from your organization on this thread. If there are , I would love to ask if this language is OK by JW stsndards.

Ògbéni you love to deceive yourself a lot and i really really feel for you because you're struggling really hard to find fault with the truth but you can never find any.
The person i replied said 'someone should be slapped for airing his beliefs in the public' you couldn't find anything wrong with that.
But when i told him that the USELESS Jews whose mindset he's carrying have infected him with their terrorist mindset you're looking for every means to find fault with my statement.

Well for your information, Jesus was given a dirty slap for speaking about his beliefs just as your friend suggested, and the one who slapped God's only begotten Son was a Jew:


After he said these things, one of the officers who was standing by gave Jesus a slap in the face and said: “Is that the way you answer the chief priest?” Jesus answered him: “If I said something wrong, bear witness about the wrong; but if what I said was right, why do you hit me?” John 18:22-23

Then the high priest ripped his outer garments, saying: “He has blasphemed! What further need do we have of witnesses? See! Now you have heard the blasphemy. What is your opinion?” They answered: “He deserves to die.” Then they spat in his face and hit him with their fists. Others slapped him on the face, saying: “Prophesy to us, you Christ. Who struck you? Matthew 26:65-68

So my friend, i know how bitter you are right now and i don't like tormenting anyone with the truth from God's word but know that those people who slapped Jesus simply because of his beliefs and teaching your friend to do the same for people simply because of their beliefs are USELESS Jews!

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
If we have to explain to a grown man what racism is, it's a big shame.
The most annoying thing is that you claimed that your organization is the only church that is against racism.
I am sure that there are many fine people in your church that would not use racist language but you just proved that humans are all the same. There are racist and non racist in all churches.
If you like go to any gathering of responsible people and say useless blacks or useless Jews and see if they would clap for you.
You keep telling me to be humble. A humble person would admit his error and repent of it. Don't preach what you never practice.

Continue deceiving yourself!

"Useless blacks" differs from "Blacks are useless"
For your information when someone is sentenced to death it simply means he/she is no more useful in that society. That doesn't mean the entire society where he is brought up is useless.
So stop deceiving yourself.
Any Jew that failed to acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah despite everything the scriptures say about the promised Christ is useless from the reason of faith!

tctrills:
You love to judge others intention. Not everyone should share your interest. Some are on nairaland for romance, sports, news, business everyone has their own interest. You can't expect everyone to find interest in every topic.
Judge not.

You love to deceiving yourself!

There thousands of followers on this section so ordinarily giving a Christian an opportunity to establish facts about pure worship is enough to make a believer swing into action.
Moreover there are many who were with us in the other thread, they all ran away as i boldly predicted before now.

So if anyone is not interested in what has to do with pure worship well listen to what God's word says:

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. Malachi 3:16

Of course everyone has what interests them be it Sports, Music, Entertainment, Politics and many more while some are always worried about the state of pure worship.
Therefore let it be known to you that what we are doing here right now will determine whether our names will be found or missing in the book of life! Revelations 20:15

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
I was really disappointed that you would go the path of racism and I am more surprised that you don't even realize what you did.
Saying useless Nigerians is insulting and if you are not a Nigerian it is racism.
You refered to Jews as useless and terrorist. We don't talk like that in today's world anymore. Imagine a white man say "useless blacks"

Keep deceiving yourself!

I asked you a simple question, why not answer first before looking for what you're going to use as excuse against the truth?

Well there's a difference between the phrase

"Useless blacks" and "blacks are useless"

"Useless blacks" simply means those that are useless among the blacks while "blacks are useless" means there's no useful black.

So humble yourself and learn!

sonmvayina:
I am not a Muslim, I am not a Christian...I am a human being following Gods laws and statues.
You that believes a woman can become pregnant without the input of a man. Don't you think you need to see a psychiatrist.
You know naturally it is impossible...but you mumuishly believe it. Why?

BELIEVE (TRUST) is not about what everybody can grasp how it works so if it's about what everyone can explain then there's nothing unique to BELIEVE (TRUST) in that because everyone including unintelligent creatures like beasts knows how it works.
Roasters and Lizards do deprive their kinds from mating with their females because they know that it's through mating that the females lay eggs and it's the sperm of the one who mated with the female that will determine the looks of their young ones.
So if that's what you call BELIEVE then what's the difference between you and the animals?

tctrills:
Oga, you just told me that your group stands against racism and here you are being the most racist. What do you mean by useless Jews. Like I always say, most Christians are the same

My friend, you can't find anything against me so help yourself to embrace the truth!

If someone say "those useless Nigerians" does that mean there is no useful Nigerian?
Jesus was born, bread and raised a Jew.
His foster father, biological mother, brothers, sisters, other relatives, disciples and those that planned his execution were all Jews!

Now all the records of his life and ministry were penned down by Jews, the first set of pioneers who took the gospel to other nations were Jews and those persecuting and killing their own people for propagate the gospel we're all Jews!

So answer this question.
Are there useful as well as useless Jews? John 8:44

tctrills:
Do you realise that the world is a more loving and peaceful place than in the time of Jesus. Thanks to the Christian world. So we can't honestly claim that only one sect is responsible for the better world we live in.

Stop deceiving yourself!

When i was a child my parents use woody doors and there was no burglaries but today iron doors are everywhere including tick iron burglaries, people lock themselves in their own homes like caged animals all due to fear of their neighbours. Whereas i traveled to Iléṣà and got stranded because we were robbed, then i remembered what JWs quoted for me about the man they called God's Son {Mark 10:28-30} so i asked for the house of a JW, i was shocked that after seeing the first JW the others came all the way from their destinations and i was celebrated as if i came to visit them, food, drinks, roasted meat and they even asked me to take a cool shower in the house of one member. I can't believe my eyes, it was like a dream!
Ever since then i believe everything Jesus said and whatever the JWs teaches me from the Bible.
I slept over and was given enough cash to continue my journey, one of them offered to take me to the car park with his car four accompanied me and i remembered their little ones, a child was crying when i was leaving all because we sang the hymns to praise our God and as a former singer, the child came sitting by my side, when i was leaving the boy started crying, they have to tell him that i'll soon be back.

Do you think such is possible in any religion on this planet?

Please tell anyone around you that a JW lied to you about what i said and hear them say "don't mind them, they love their members" {John 13:34-35} so you may continue deceiving yourself but the truth can't be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16

tctrills:
This is a free thread.. maybe others are not interested

Which of the churches today is following Jesus' teachings?

Whoever is not interested in this topic is not a true follower of the man who is called God's son:

However, when they hand you over, do not become anxious about how or what you are to speak, for what you are to speak will be given you in that hour; for the ones speaking are not just you, but it is the spirit of your Father that speaks by you. Matthew 10:19-20

Just know today that they're not Christians!

sonmvayina:
Jesus will soon impregnate your mother, and you will foolishly believe her...won't you? One single sense you no get at all..

Nobody has the right to physically assault his or her neighbour for saying what he believes so go and see the psychiatrist fast before you get into trouble with your intolerant religion!

Janosky:
They want Jesus Christ to give them "feel good motivational speech" rather teach them the Bible truth he learnt from his God &Father John 15:15. 17:17

Thanks my brother, they don't want the other side of Christianity it's only the sweet side they want. So it's good to quote Jesus' words for them and allow them to explain what God's Son meant if Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the group practicing it!

sonmvayina:
Christianity started in Egypt as the worship of serapis. Who was a deity created by Ptolemy the first when he became pharoah of Egypt. To unite the Egyptian and Greek factions in Alexandria. Some Egyptian followed the new deity, other continue to worship the father as Osiris, the son as Horus and the mother as Isis. After more than half a century of argument, emperor Constantine called the presbyters to Nicea to harmonise their belief. After a arguing for almost 3 months they finally decided on serapis christus as the official god of Christianity. Eusebius was mandated to unify all the manuscripts brought forward into a uniform documents. Hence the reason why all the gospels began life anonymously. Ever since them they have been holding synods and council to iron out any beliefs that will pop up. The last was held in Vatican called Vatican 2. If anybody ever told you Christianity has a Jewish man born by a virgin woman. Slap the person for mouth.

And gradually you're running mad!

So there is no freedom of speech again shey?

Even if someone says God had sex with his wife should you think of slapping him for his faith?
Well i know those useless Jews have infected you with their terrorist mindset so you're gradually getting closer to your grave. Just slap someone for saying what his/her religion teaches and you'll never live to tell the story!

DeepSight:
This reads - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

1. How do you read the words "keep away from them?"
2. Does it suggest to you excommunication from fellowship?
3. Do you believe that such should form grounds for the division and break-up of families? For example, if that person is a spouse, do you "keep away from them?" Do you shun them? If that person is a parent, do you shun them?
4. Do you recognize the potential for cult-like fanaticism in this? Do you recognize that shunning others was a standard practice of many of the most dangerous cults in history?
5. Do you recognize the potential for religious intolerance in this? In the sense that if you are to "keep away" from people who think differently from you in terms of religion, then you probably should not associate with people of other faiths.
6. How would you feel if people of other faiths "shunned" you for being a JW?
7. How can you show Christian love to a shunned person?



This reads - He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.

What does this have to do with shunning?

Jesus never used physical sword against anyone neither did he support using it but he clearly stated that he did not come for peace {Matthew 10:34-39} perhaps you should tell me what he meant in those verses if not causing division in the families!

My friend, it's either you're for Jesus or against him, so choose to be with Jesus and see the reality of what Jesus said. That's what we are practicing among Jehovah's Witnesses!

Greenholics:
Thats funny, i woukd have enagage you regarding the wealth thing, but you are not up for conversation... Go check your bible and you will realize Jesus was not poor, your bible says his garment was woven in one piece from neck to hem ( that mean there was no join join as we call it, that garment is whatbee call "alreadg made" today)...... a poor man will not wear already made garment.

That simply means the cloth is not man-made!

Also your bible says he was on a boat sleeping, the only place u can sleep on a boat or any means of transportation is where we call forst class today.... poor man cant fly first class.

You missed it!
Jesus was in a boat because most of his followers were fishermen so they're used to sea-life but Jesus is a carpenter that's why he wasn't peddling the boat along with them.

[quote [Lastly your bible says he has an accountant, what does a poor man need an accountant for? So you see..... you read your buble like its a story body.[/quote]Judas Iscariot is not Jesus' accountant rather he was the group's cashier keeping the money given to them on their journey throughout Israel because their laws says they must be hospitable to strangers.

Any religion based on hate will self destruct......
Also can you give me a very practival example of wealthy persom that took from thw poor? Maybe we should use bill gate as a case study.

If people work for a righteous boss, everyone will receive the same salary because they all contributed to the success of the business. So where people underpay some it's stealing from them that's why we're having armed robbers in the society. Imagine a situation where everyone receives the same wage do you think there will be armed robbers?

Also you said some wealthy brother in Jw do contribute money to watch tower, which is a good thing.... but then you also said all wealthy people make their wealth in a dirty way, so you know they are evil and bad people in jw giving money they took from poor people, why havsnt you guys chase them out of Jw or reject thier money?

They made their wealth the way they feel it's normal but when such a person comes to Jesus, Jesus ordered him to return everything back to the poor if he wants to rule with Jesus and become one of Jesus' followers {Luke 18:18-23} selling everything doesn't mean he will not have anything again but share what he had equally with other members of the group.
That's exactly what the wealthy JWs are doing to make sure their is free Bibles and publications throughout the earth for others!

And also like the verse you quoted Jesus told the rich man to sell off all he owns, your watch tower is worth billiona of dollar why havent it been sold and the money used to help the poor Jw world wide? Rather they sold it added some extra billions (poor people money) and bought an even bigger place.

Jesus wasn't talking about sharing their money equally otherwise he wouldn't have said there will always be poor ones in their midst {Mark 14:7} what he meant is for them to make sure all members get what is of utmost importance to them which is the Bible and other publications that's useful not material things.
Each person can do that on his own but what is contributed is for the Kingdom interest.
Despite this you can never find anyone begging in your stree in the name of Jehovah like your brothers in your religion. WHY? Because we are taught to be contented with whatever we have unlike your brothers who will continue promoting begging in the society all in the name of your Allah!

So you are preachinf stuff you dknt practise, usinf your logic watxh tower took money world wide from poor people and use it to fund expensice stuff not needed.
( i am waiting for u to come tell me not all wealth are dirty or ill gotten i will show you your previous messages)

It's because your religion is worthless that's why you don't know the difference between pure worship and false religions. Israelites contributed to the works going on in the temple and Jesus commended a widow who contributed the smallest amount. Meaning it's not just for the rich to contribute everyone can share in the joy of being a partaker in the success of pure worship. Unlike your own religion where only the rich see themselves as blessed and the less privileged see themselves as cursed!

Now Mr Neighbors, i have a question you sae this post evidently for muslims why did you decide to leave your high tower and come here? Since you hate us so much.

Perhaps you should go back and reread my first comment on the thread, i said anyone who believe in the existence of a creator is a million times better than an atheist.
Do you still remember?

Side note: if Jesus come back to earth today, you will probably hate him too because i am very sure he will not practising the religion you approve of, as a natter of fact Yeshua (Jesus) when on earth practise Judaism, and he did that till he was crucified and not once did he speak again Judaism he only spoke againt the leaders and some things they allowed in the temple.

Jesus spoke against Judaism because that's not the religion Moses established with the law.
Judaism simply means the religion of the southern region of Israel known back then as Judah. The Jews (the southerners) treat the remaining tribes of Israel as outcasts that's why they called them "Samaritans"
So you missed it Jesus never supported such segregation rather he was preaching unity among all the children of Jacob (Israelites)

I bet you will probably cut him off and excommunicate him. If jw is the way why make it hard for people to leave? Sounds like a cult to me now.

Nobody makes it hard for anyone to leave. If you're with us we treat you as our family and if you say goodbye we treat you as a neighbour.
So you can't say you're no longer interested in what binds the family together as one yet demanding to be treated as a family!

tctrills:
The world is becoming less racist not because of any church but as humans advance racism reduces. America fought a war to end slavery. Very few have done as much as Rev Matin Luther King Jr. I wouldn't give the fight against racism to any one organization.

So who are those claiming Christians carrying weapons against their fellowman?

Well i just want to prove a point and that has been done.

Where are those claiming they're Christians on your other thread? Why hasn't anyone come up to speak about the works of their group as i've been doing?

WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
No weapon formed against our faith will have any success, any tongue that rises against us will be silenced, that's the heritage of those worshiping our own God JEHOVAH, and as for our righteousness don't bother yourself because it's from our God JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17

Thanks for sharing your time with me!

tctrills:
That my point so just because a certain church has not yet gotten to all nations we cant use that to judge because they might get there sometime in the future. Everything in God's time.

What have they achieved in the places where they reached?
Have they been able to erase racism and politics from the hearts of their followers?
Jesus said Christians must love and pray for their enemies, why do we have people claiming Christians and into politics and racism today.
Do you think there can be real love when they're into worldly politics?

DeepSight:
Talk to us about the practice of shunning.

Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11

tctrills:
Every Church contradicts the other so none is of God?

Of course Jesus' group also contradicts other Religious groups of the first century but only Jesus' group kept doing the work to erase racism and politics from the hearts of all their followers so that love can reign among them! John 13:34-35

Note that all the religions in the first century were contradicting themselves yet they all singled out Jesus' group as the worst of their enemies! John 15:19; 17:14

So ask yourself, can any member of the churches travel to any country in the world and expect to be welcomed hospitably just because he's a member of their religion?
Well Jesus' group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are doing it throughout the earth! Mark 10:29-30

tctrills:
Yes, Jesus told them to go into all nations but did he give them a timeline?
I am not sure Peter and Paul took the gospel to Nigeria, Australia, or America in their day. That doesn't mean they were false.

Jesus told us an illustration showing that it's not his first century Jewish disciples that will take the preaching to the ends of the earth! Matthew 13:24-30
Note what Jesus said at verse 25 "when men were sleeping" this means while all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century are dead in their graves Satan will seize the opportunity to establish his own religion and overshadow the real Christians.
But Jesus later said by the time he returns what he laid down would have been overturned by Satan and his agents {Luke 18:8} that's when Jesus (as a mighty spirit king) will start using God's Active Force to direct the humble group back to all the truth Satan has buried after killing all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century! Matthew 24:45

So it's the other sheep of Jesus whom the first century Jewish disciples don't know that Jesus will gather to continue the work from where the first century Jewish disciples stopped! John 10:16

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
How did Jesus set up his Church? Was it before or after his death?

When Jesus was alive he was preaching and teaching to gather people who will later become subjects of his Kingdom.
That's why he told them:

“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come! John 16:12-13

So it was at Pentecost that God used His Holy Spirit to choose a group of worshipers {Act 2:1-4} Peter reminded the Jews in Jerusalem that day that what God promised the Israelites through His prophet is what they're seeing the fulfilment that very day {Act 2:14-21 compare to Joel 2:28-30} when the people heard Peter's utterances the honest hearted ones among them were touched in their hearts so they asked Peter and the rest of those standing having the blessings:

Now when they heard this, they were stabbed to the heart, and they said to Peter and the rest of the apostles: “Men, brothers, what should we do?” Act 2:37

The Jews already knew the name of their God and are not unaware of the works of God's Holy Spirit but one thing is missing! They don't know that Jesus is the promised Messiah, so Peter told them straightforward to repent of all what their nation did against Jesus and get baptized in the name of the same Jesus they killed if they want to be part of the beneficiaries of God's promise! Act 2:38

Many of them yielded immediately and that was how Jesus' group was established after the death, resurrection and ascension of God's Son!

tctrills:
I love your story.. You mean up till 1914, one church was teaching the Gospel of Christ?

NO! After the death of the Apostles the AntiChrist (Satan's agents) began claiming Christians, they succeeded in killing all the pioneers of Christianity and they began forcing their beliefs on people with wars they called "CRUSADES" later the oppressed ones among them began protesting that's why they're called "PROTESTANTS" as they kicked against the authority of Roman Catholic Church back then. Gradually Satan was able to establish many sects all claiming denominations of the same religion but they have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet they're claiming they all belong to one master even when they're killing themselves due to politics and racism!

tctrills:
You seem to be saying that one sign of the true church is that it should be in every country?

Jesus said it not me:

Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20; Act 1:8

But when you see different sects contradicting themselves then know that they're not for the Prince of Peace! Luke 11:23

Funny atheist!
Why bothering yourself over what believers say?

Yippeedaniel:
Gimme his number so I can text him directly