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Greenholics:This is your problem! You don't really meditate on what you hear or read before jumping to conclusions. This is a man who has taken good care of his wife and children from infancy till they become adults so his convertion shouldn't make his wife and children abandon him. If he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses before and suddenly chose to join another religion it's members of our group to whom he is related by faith that must not relate with him again, as for his immediate family they must not involve in anything having to do with worship but he still remains a member of their family. So learn to know the difference! The person i relate with due to faith will no longer be my relation once we're no more worshiping the same God, but the person to whom i'm related by blood must remain my relation it's matters having to do with sacred services that we can no longer engage one another! I know you will still come around so you're welcome anytime my friend! ![]() |
A slave (servant) is one who has no choice when his master issues an order, many people don't see God as their Master because they feel they can choose to obey or disobey at will. But JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believe that we are slaves (servants) of our God JEHOVAH and of Jesus Christ our Lord! In our heritage (history of God's servants) only faithful and loyal worshipers of God makes themselves slaves (servants) of our God because they've tasted and are fully convinced that our God is good. So they made themselves His slaves so that whatever His orders we are prepared to OBEY without hesitation! ![]() |
sonmvayina:When Jesus commissioned this movement known as Jehovah's Witnesses today our first century Jewish brothers in Christ kept wondering how the movement will fare in later times when they're all gone. Jesus reassuring words is that God's Holy Spirit (Active Force) will continue to guide his own true followers till the end so that the PEACE he brought will continue to reign amongst them. John 14:26-27 So no matter what you think in your mind against pure worship you will be confused when asked to table your grievances because you will start contradicting yourself in a bid to condemn the Christians. Note how you've been accusing me of being intolerant whereas i tolerate all school of thought as long as you're not hurting your neighbours. After our long discussion you have come out to prove before everyone that it's you that's intolerant towards your neighbour simply because of his beliefs! sonmvayina:I said "those USELESS Jews infused hatred for Jesus and his disciples in your brains" because that was exactly what was recorded about the Jews back then! Act 4:18; 5:28 I just hope you'll learn to tolerate everyone around you no matter what they say about their God or beliefs since they're not posing a threat to anyone! ![]() |
sonmvayina:The highlighted solved the riddle! According to you everyone is a God that's given the brain to choose between right and wrong so what you think shouldn't be a problem between us as long as i'm not hurting anyone around me! ![]() |
sonmvayina:I appreciate that difference since we can both live peacefully without hurting each other after all there is difference everywhere the major problem is how to cohabit peacefully with our neighbours, if our difference doesn't make us think alike it's OK i can associate with people with whom i share the same line of thought "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" I hope there is no crime committed nah! ![]() |
sonmvayina:There you go again! ![]() I don't think you know what you're saying, if everyone has what it takes to be good then why are we locking ourselves behind burglaries and high fence? Well it's Jesus that led me into knowing how to cohabit peacefully with my own neighbours so go and assist those making life miserable for their fellowman at least you can start from there. I am OK at least from the standpoint of every sane human, don't worry about my Jesus that doesn't pose a threat to anyone! ![]() |
MindHacker9000:I appreciate the fact that you atheists always emphasize on the usefulness of human brains but instead of making further research on that you guys just wrappep up everything in one box! Well i don't know you so let me hint you on the usefulness of the book you're quoting. *The author of that book is God (according to those who penned down the words) *The author is the Creator of heaven and earth (we're not seeing heaven but we're here on earth) *The author claims he's the one and only person wise enough to make humans cohabit peacefully (an assertion that we need to verified since peace eludes our society despite our intelligence) *The author claims that if we should honestly pay attention to the book we will have PEACE (any sane human often say he has peace but our problem is cohabitation) After thousands of years that humans have been existing on this planet (as far as civilization is concerned) there has never been a time when people from different races across the globe form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers vowing never to raise weapons against anyone again except in our own generation! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 A group just emerge all of a sudden around 1919 and they began traveling throughout the earth preaching and teaching people in all our neighbourhood how to cohabit peacefully and never to raise weapons again. Today there are millions from different races that have embraced this teachings and people are saying everywhere that there is LOVE among this people! John 13:34-35 Well if there is any intellectual living in this generation that failed to find out why or how can such seemingly impossible thing be then i doubt if such a person is truly an intellectual and i wonder what humans are using their brains for if we can travel to the moon but we failed to cohabit peacefully on the planet where we have everything we need! Genesis 1:26-28 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
sonmvayina:If they're truly peaceful and helping people in their neighbourhood to become peaceful they would have reached my place before JWs did! Buddhism has been there far more than 400 years before Jesus was born yet nobody knows or heard of Buddha in my home town and villages. But JWs are everywhere! Act 1:8 Surely spirit pass spirit! ![]() |
sonmvayina:If it's guy Taze why not form yours and let's see the result? This is what i've been telling you all these while. Go and form your own or point to a better performing group, instead it's insult all the time. I believe in God, i honour my parents, i don't steal, i don't commit adultery, i don't long for other people's possessions, i do everything my God says but you keep saying i should leave all that to do what exactly? ![]() |
sonmvayina:The problem here is you don't know the result of idolatry in the midst of those practicing it. So you can call any religion that doesn't agree with your thinking "IDOLATRY" Instead of calling a religion names intelligent people think about the result in the society. You said what humans need is a system where we can cohabit peacefully and i present what is working out fine among Jehovah's Witnesses but instead of talking about the result which you first preferred now you're going back to blind arguments. Idolatry can be any RELIGION including yours but EVIDENCE is what we need not assertions. ![]() |
sonmvayina:Well if you don't SEE a difference between a group where there are no street beggars and the group where millions are begging in the streets, then you don't know the type of God i love to worship because no worshipers of my own God will beg in the streets, that's a promise fulfilled: The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. Psalms 23:1 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread. Psalms 37:25 KJV You can now resort to insults as usual! ![]() |
sonmvayina:JWs have been since the time of Abel, Satan kept intercepting pure worship and devastating the gathering of those practicing it. When Jesus came in the first century he told us that Satan will still devastate pure worship once again {Matthew 13:25} but that will be the last time because by the time he (Jesus) return he will recognize his group never to be devastated again, that's the time people throughout the world will see the glory of God's son as adherents of pure worship will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! John 17:20-23 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4 So JWs have been there all along {Hebrews 11:4-32; 12:1} but it's in our generation that Jehovah's word is fulfilling as we connect ourselves globally teaching ourselves the laws of our God and living like one family! Zephaniah 3:9 ![]() |
sonmvayina:The difference is i have a global family of peace loving worshipers who will never raise weapons against anyone and that i can vouch for anywhere in the world that if i'm stranded they will treat me like a brother in their homes. Muslims have millions of their brothers and sisters begging in the streets throughout the world all because they are stranded! That's what Jesus promised me that no religionist on this planet can have! Mark 10:29-30 ![]() |
sonmvayina:Just present the group practicing what you're saying and leave the rest for observers to choose after all you said "we are all Gods" You said you can write a story like harry potter or spiderman and use it to make people drop their weapons throughout the earth! Hen, let's see how it works nah! ![]() |
So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time. Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish" Luke 4:5-6 The highlighted are the utterances of Satan the Devil, so Pastors lied to you the riches of this system of things has been given to Satan {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so it's impossible for a true believer to gain worldly riches! Luke 16:13 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Janosky:I learnt a lot from Jesus' illustration of Lazarus and the rich man! Apostates are in serious torment {Luke 16:23} so they need JWs to cool their self imposed thirst {Luke 16:24} yet even when you wish to help them unknowing that they're Apostates the spirit disturbing them won't allow them so they will tell you where they belong {Luke 16:28} father Abraham is always right, Lazarus has no business with them! Luke 16:26 If Apostates are sure of what they want why can't they form their own organization and start worshiping as one family? ![]() |
Greenholics:Please spare me further stories, so far it has produced what mankind needed to solve the problems causing racism and politics on this planet i believe the book is from God! ![]() |
sagenaija:I said so for you not others silently following this thread but the short answers are for you while the Bible verses are for interested followers who may wish to know the scriptural backings for my short answers. So next time don't insist on what you can not do when chatting with people, you and i know very well that thousands are following this thread, therefore we need not dictate how each other should reply. I can grasp where you are driving ~ TRINITY And no doubt know where i'm going ~ Jesus is Archangel Michael So there's no need twisting scriptures just go ahead and present your answer then leave the rest for the followers to learn from our discussion. Once again Jesus is the Archangel Michael, it's not written directly in any part of the scriptures just as TRINITY is not written anywhere in the Bible. I was taught just as you were taught but i can present the PRACTICAL APPLICATION and BENEFITS of what Michael is doing in the midst of his earthly subjects who knows the IDENTITY of their king today, you are only arguing in support of TRINITY dogma you can't present any group of people practicing what TRINITY is nor BENEFITS of your dogma anywhere! ![]() |
After scamming billions both home and abroad with the lie shey? ![]() Well are confession is not genuine if she truly want to confess she should tell the whole world what prompted the lie so that when another scammer tries to do the same it will be easy to silence the idiot! ![]() |
It's the Muslims that can quench the troubles caused by people claiming Muslims, the founder of Christianity (Jesus) never said his followers can stop the enemies, rather this is what Jesus the Son of God said: "When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes" Matthew 10:23 Jesus who is called CHRIST told his followers never to retaliate in any way {Matthew 5:43-48} rather they're to leave any territory where their enemies don't want them to continue the work of preaching and teaching. The secret of today's terrorism group is not religious but POLITICAL, so if the first century Christians are here today Boko Haram won't have anything to do with them, WHY? Because the Christians have nothing to do with politics, they're OK with whoever is in power as long as they're allowed to continue with the Good News of God's Kingdom! Romans 12:18 It's politicians disguising as Christians that are the cause of hatred for anyone carrying the Bible, the terrorist groups are working for politicians so they don't care whatever your religion says as long as you're not coming to drag political seats with them you're free to practice your religion! ![]() |
sagenaija:Now you're ready to learn! Question [1]Is Jesus a MESSENGER of God? Answer YES! According to Jesus himself: For God SENT not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:17 KJV It's messengers that are SENT on errands! Question [2]Did God say Jesus is His Son? Answer YES! According to the gospel account of Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. There is no country, culture or tradition where a father is equal to his son, we all know that when it comes to two persons that often claim equality it's twins born the same day as they're both conceived in the same womb at the same time. So for God who created us in His image to have used what we are familiar with to make us understand the relationship between two persons using the term FATHER and SON it's evident that one is far GREATER in everything than the other {John 14:28} of course a father and his son may share the same line of thought {John 10:30} just as a multitude of people can share the same line of thought {John 17:22} but one person will be the source of all the knowledge and wisdom that all the sharers are benefitting from Him! John 20:17 You may ignore all these cited verses, i used it not for you but for any follower to read and understand that JEHOVAH is a totally different person from JESUS and that they're never in the same rank just as a FATHER is not in the same rank with his SON! ![]() |
Greenholics:When God created the earth the purpose is for man and beasts to live in peace where man will dominate over the unintelligent creatures as we are created to make things better and make better things unlike animals that can't think to improve in anything. That's what it means when the Bible said "God created humans in His own image" Genesis 1:26 The only no go area for humans is the right to rule over themselves as in setting standards for right and wrong. Genesis 2:17 Satan never created anything so what we are using to make life better doesn't come from Satan it all belongs to God. Then how come Satan is the author of inequality? Satan initiated the idea that man supposed to rule themselves without God's intervention, that is why some are getting richer and billions are getting poorer leading to desperation, envy and hatred. That is the system of Satan not God. So when humans living under Satan's system now come together to gather what other humans are fighting and killing themselves for to organize themselves in a peaceful atmosphere then Satan is put to shame. 1John 3:8 Greenholics:When you meet people it's wise to calm down and know their level of understanding before running to conclusion. I've been to many aspects including traditional religion before i got to know that only Jehovah's Witnesses are on the path to life. So you can't hide under Ifá to tell me the Bible is fake, i know about ifá and the spirits behind the mythology, they are demons pretending to be angels of light. Test each spirit by allowing them to guide humans then see the result in the midst of their adherents, if they orderly and well organized to resolve issues amicably without raising weapons against one another then know that it's the spirit of God who is LOVE {1John 4:8} but if you're not careful you can never find the flaws because these are higher intelligent beings who knows how to cover their tracks perfectly. The only thing they can never do is gather humans and make them cohabit peacefully without the use of force or weapons! ![]() Greenholics:The source of something may be difficult to decipher it's benefits will stand as evidence to prove whether it's from a good or bad source~ Jesus of Nazareth Matthew 7:16-18 So with the situation of things in the world today, what we need is not just another religion having gestures or acts of devotion but a form of worship that will bring lasting peace and harmony in the gathering of imperfect humans from different races across the globe. No matter what anyone says you and i are not that daft to be deceived by what is not benefitial in our society. Jehovah's Witnesses have proved beyond every reasonable doubt that the Bible is from God. How? With that book they have been to all the countries on this planet to gather people from different cultures and traditions, they have turned them into peaceloving people, they have made them preachers (people working for peace in their neighbourhood), they have erased racism and politics from their hearts, they have uprooted military services and use of weapons from their brains! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 Today i am 52 years old i don't need any storyteller or professor to convince me that the book this group used to achieve all that is from the God of LOVE! ![]() |
MindHacker9000:That book is not some textbook to be read and understood using common logics, because it's about intelligence beings both seen and unseen. So if you keep reading it expecting you can grasp it's content without anyone to guide you then it's better you leave it! Those given the understanding are using it now and solving the problem that no faculty has ever attempted to solve because the author is not human but GOD! ![]() |
Janosky:Don't mind him, he's just deceiving himself. He's been trying to avoid explanation of verses just to impose his TRINITY dogma on the issue, now the time has come for him to answer straightforward questions he wants to twist things: The two questions that will expose his trinity dogmatic doctrine: [1]Is Jesus a messenger of God? YES or NO [2]Did God say Jesus is His Son? YES or NO No trinitarian can answer these two without stammering because once you acknowledge Jesus as a messenger of God that the Bible called him and God's own declaration saying Jesus is His son, you will need more than ten pages to twist the truth in order to explain how the messenger himself is the one who sent the messenger! ![]() |
sagenaija:Can you now see how woefully you failed to practice what you've been demanding? The two questions again: [1]Is Jesus a messenger of God? YES or NO is the simple answer required. [2]Did God say Jesus is His Son? YES or NO then we can further the discussion. ![]() |
Greenholics:That's why Jesus sent his disciples to come and teach you {Matthew 28:20} so that you can see where the problem of mankind started from. @ Genesis 3:4-5 we read At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad. Satan established a system where humans will rule like Gods over their kind, they will determine when you wake, when you'll sleep, where you'll live, what you'll eat, what you'll wear, where you can sit or stand, the level of your appearance and many more! Ecclesiastes 8:9 How? By the amount you earn! Satan planned all these after man's fall and there is nothing God can do until the time allowed for Satan to prove what he said: "Humans can live successfully without God's guidance" So money was introduced by Satan to make some live like Gods while others are oppressed and trampled under foot like lowlife. Now after thousands of years no human on this planet can doubt the fact that humans have failed woefully in ruling ourselves, in fact human rulership has brought excruciating pains on this planet! Ecclesiastes 4:1 That's why Jesus sent us out after training us to go and declare the Good News of God's coming Kingdom (Government) where everyone will receive equal payment throughout the earth and peace will reign globally as we will no longer follow this system of things rather everything will be shared EQUALLY! Satan is the initiator of over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations of Christianity today, only one group belongs to Jesus the rest are under Satan's organization {Matthew 7:13-14} so as to complicate issues for people like you who will not calmly ask to know the difference between false religions and pure worship talkless of grasping the benefits of pure worship! ![]() |
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DeepSight:Just as anybody from any nation is acceptable among Jehovah's Witnesses as long as the person is prepared to fear our God and obey the rules binding us together as one. That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading! ![]() DeepSight:You're a liar! If you've never been to any other religion apart from JWs what exactly makes you feel God's people are wrong in any way since you never attended the churches of Christendom? ![]() Next time just say you're an Apostate instead of arguing aimlessly claiming you're agnostic. Thanks for your time, if you are truly an exJW you should know that it's wrong for a JW to chat with you. Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11 So goodbye! ![]() |
Matthew wasn't relating a literal event but a vision of what will happen in the nearest future! It's a vision of what will happen in the future due to the sacrifice Jesus just made with his own blood. No dead bodies left their graves because resurrection will only take place when Jesus call {John 5:28-29} the one who will make that call is dead so it's a vision not literal event! ![]() |
sagenaija:Your comment is lengthy! The questions are just two. [1] Is Jesus a messenger of God? YES or NO [2] Did God say Jesus is His Son? YES or NO Then you can ask your question, because you've been the one asking so since you don't want lengthy response try to answer the two questions exactly as you want me to answer yours! ![]() |
The only thing that can make your case similar to that of Jesus is when you're able to present a visible spiritual family of people who don't see you as insane. For instance when Mary (Jesus' mother) and Jesus' brothers thought he was insane {Mark 3:21} many in the neighbourhood also thought the same thing {John 10:20} but what about his close confidants? They're seeing something different entirely {Matthew 6:13-16} these are the people Jesus view as his spiritual family {Matthew 12:46-50} Jesus also promised anyone who follow his footstep that the same thing will happen to them but they will have families in 100 folds {Mark 10:28-30} these are not just imaginary people or faceless social media commentators but real people with whom you can relate anywhere you go on this planet. I was a Muslim before i converted to JW, YES i lost all as they turned their backs on me (some who comes to me don't let others know and they're coming for what they need which they knew i have) but throughout the world i have millions of brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, children, houses and so on because i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses! So even though those who knew me before thought i'm now mad they're not up to 1% of millions across the globe who now cherish me as one of their big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Janosky:One thing i've noticed about him is he loves straightforward questions and straightforward answers. So instead of typing so much that will confuse him just pick things one by one like you're studying my book of bible stories with a toddler. I'm sure that will work! ![]() |
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