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FRANCISTOWN:
Ima fact, you are the one who is most stupid. Your Jesus didnt say only the people who believe in your Yhwh are knowledgeable. In fact, he even said non-yhwh believers are wiser.
Luke 16: 8 " for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

There is nothing you can tell me, atheists are far wiser than christains.
Your bible knew it takes a whole lot of dumbness to believe in such fairy ass stories.

Guy you're just a dumb fool walahi talahi!

So you're one of the children of this world or one of their generation shey?

Why not ask for the meaning and know if you are one of those Jesus was referring to in that statement?

Well i will school you:

Children of light are CHRISTIANS and the children of this world are POLITICIANS.
So how are they wiser than the children of the light?

They can give whatever it takes to get their share in the goodies that comes along with politics in fact most of them are ready to do away with their families, friends and love ones as long as it's sure they will attain the position they're pursuing in their political career.

But when it comes to Christians none is ready to loose everything they heard for what they are going to gain through the Christ in fact even those that saw him, walked with him, performed miracles in his name and got the promise that they will RULE with him in his kingdom weren't as determined as worldly politicians.

So my guy are you a politician?
What political post are you going for?
You're so stupid that you count yourself one of the children of this system of things whereas you're always here arguing for nothing as in NOTHING when the real children of the world are out there pursuing their political career!

FRANCISTOWN:
Let's both stick to the dictionary meaning of both words.
If that? Then it's fair to say. There is no one on the surface of the earth who lives up the lifestyle of that character called Jesus, hence there is no christain on earth.

Of course there are millions living that lifestyle but since you don't want to reason you can't grasp the fact that they are living up to the lifestyle Jesus set for them! Act 1:8

22jumpstreet1:
do you understand what you just quoted. you know this part disqualifies you too...The earlier the better
Jehovah's witnesses are the worst of them all...

The final part of the prophecy gave us exactly what will be the result if it's from the God of Abraham:

"He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore" Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Once the above has been achieved anyone who doubts the authenticity of such laws is not sane!

That's why i keep asking you to present the organization of those using the Torah to achieve what is written in that prophecy in fact the God of Abraham has laid a heavy CURSE on anyone who claims he or she is a Jew but disbelieve Jesus of Nazareth that's why they can never ever find peace anywhere they go with their hopeless, worthless, useless and stupid Torah.

But if you don't believe me just present any organized people living by your Torah and let's see how they can fulfil what these two prophets said about God's people in the last days!

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The above is what makes Kumuyi a false prophet! Matthew 7:16-18

With all his noise here and there members of his church are still into politics and military services which means if Tinubu and Weah should quarrel today your Deeperlife member in Liberia will carry weapons to kill you whereas Jehovah's Witnesses will be on the look out to rescue our own brothers both in Nigeria and Liberia because we are no part of the world {John 17:16} under the control of Satan the killer! John 8:44

Deal with that!

MindHacker9009:
Because you are always responding on almost every thread in this section day and night believing you spoke and saw Jesus Christ 2000 years ago.

No wahala go and erase the name "JESUS" in the hearts of millions of his disciples!

tctrills:
This is why you think taking a little cocaine is ok?

If it's prescribed by a certified physician there nothing wrong as long as it's meant for the well being of the patient! 1Timothy 5:23

tctrills:
Please explain how this helps your point. Still I disagree with you. We have examples of wealthy princesses marrying at the age of 14. So it's not about poverty.

God's word says those contemplating marriage must have passed the bloom of youth meaning they must be adults and in this case Paul said the woman should be the sole determinant of her own partner not the other way around! 1 Corinthians 7:36-39
So underage marriage is unchristian!

tctrills:
His disciples did not have money in their pocket at that time either, does that mean that they too did not handle money. Just because one doesn't have money at a particular time is no argument that he has never handled money.
If Jesus Christ did not touch money because it was unrighteous, why would he ask his disciples to handle it for him? How does that make sense. If you stay away from unrighteousness, would you ask your children to handle the unrighteousness on your

You love misquoting people.
Go back to what i posted "during his earthly ministry" that doesn't mean he never handled money nah after all he was a carpenter of course he will be paid for his service as one nah!
What i'm saying is that Jesus made his disciples realize that money comes with unrighteousness all the atrocities committed on this planet is linked directly or indirectly to the love of money {1Timothy 6:7-11} in God's kingdom we will not need money anymore as everything will be shared equally no matter what you think about yourself! Matthew 20:1-15

22jumpstreet1:
ode
they are not your regular constitution,
they are spiritual laws...learn them and keep it..

ÒPÒNÚ come and force Torah on me nah!

Dustbinbint:
In a sense, you can say so. In the spiritual realm, God conducted a “procedure” where he had to convert Jesus life into a form that could fertilize Mary's egg cell.

Perfect explanation!

22jumpstreet1:
what GOD hates. He hates....what's beneficial in worshipping an idol? what can never help you and you are disrespecting the creator...
even the Adam and Eve you mention all the time did not even do them. The Jews has a covenant with him and he told them if they obey his laws he would bless them and if they disobey he would punish them, because of what people told you about them you became enemies with them...the people that did not have any convenient with their God...
if you are not a dummy you should have realized it..

It's stupidity that's worrying you!

There's no reason for laws if people aren't organized it's due to orderliness that laws came to be established that's why your stupid Jews and their Torah has become worthless today!

tctrills:
So you will take cocaine as long as you don't over do it ok.
As for underaged marriage, you claim it's as a result of rebellion against God, do you have that written in your scripture or is it a personal opinion?
And how do you know that Jesus never handled money, that again is your opinion.
One can also say that Timothy never handled money or Thomas never handled money. Unless it's revealed, you are only expressing an opinion not a truth.

Food we consume contains iron does that mean you can swallow an iron rod?
If everyone is living fine as in OK do you think someone will give out his underage daughter in marriage? There must be mutual agreement between the two before marriage so both must have become adults! 1Corinthians 7:36-39
According to what happened in the ministry Jesus kept the money bag with Judas Iscariot {John 12:6} and when he was caught unaware to pay the temple tax he told his disciples to go and get a fish then use the money found in the mouth of the fish to pay. Of course Jesus doesn't handle money otherwise he will have something in his pocket to pay that's why he referred to money as unrighteous Mammon. Luke 16:9

Aemmyjah:
All atheists are fools
Bible does not lie
If an intelligent person won't say the simplest house has no builder even if they see it in another planet where there's no life
How much more this complex universe?
All atheists are fools 💯

One funny thing about this OP is how he often call me out as if i'm the only person who believe Jesus on this forum imagine finding the verse that foresaw the emergence of Governing Body and the next thing he did was to call out MaxInDhouse!

Myer:
I was an atheist. So trust me some atheists have knowledge. But the knowledge is now puffed up and no longer blessing them.
We should pray they come to repentance.

The worstest creature on this planet is Satan he never doubted the existence of his Creator that's why God's word could say:

In his haughtiness, the wicked man makes no investigation; All his thoughts are: “There is no God.” Psalms 10:4

So i will rather God's word that says an atheist is a FOOL {Psalms 14:1} of course you know what a FOOL is nah!

tctrills:
Is it ok to take cocaine if not taking excessively?

Cocaine was discovered for a purpose but it's those abusing it that's wrong not the product on its own.

tctrills:
Also, did the bible ever condemn Slavery, Gambling or underage marriage?

All these are the result of rebellion against God so he never set rules regarding it until Jesus came and began living his life free from slavery, gambling and underage marriage.
Note that Jesus never handled money throughout his earthly ministry.
Do you why?
It's because those three you mentioned above comes from the use of money Jesus never had a slave because he didn't have any money to buy one so he does everything all by himself.
He never gambled because he doesn't want to have anything to do with greed.
He never married because marriage belongs only to those who knows the purpose of marriage not just anyone. His life will soon end and he must return to his abode so there's no one to whom he will shift the responsibility.

Just continue studying Jesus you will understand so many things about God's will for mankind. Hebrews 12:2

Myer:
There is a place for spiritual rebirth in Christ which makes believers spiritual Jews and heirs to the promises of God to Abraham.

This is all i need in your post!

FRANCISTOWN:
WRONG!!!
There is no such thing as a spiritual Jew, a Jew is a Jew.

So calling a stupid atheist "knowledgeable" makes no sense tell him that there's provision for gentiles to become SPIRITUAL JEWS!

cornelboy:
💯💯

When people want to talk about colonialism hypocrisy won't allow them to think straight.

The whiteman came to Africa only for the blackman to sell his own brother as slave to the whiteman and by the end of the day they want the Gods of their land to fight for them against the whiteman, abeg who sold out the child of ifá priest as slave to the whiteman?
What happened to the son of the priestess of Ọ̀ṣun? What about the tears shed at the shrine of Ogun, Ọbalúayé, Ṣàngó, Ọ̀ṣẹ̀rẹ̀màgbò, Èṣù and other Gods of the land?
Is it not injustice as their children were missing and those in high places did nothing to it?
Most of these people goes to the shrines with heavy hearts and tears laying curses on those involved in the missing of their children.

Now let's travel back to the time of Jacob who is called "Israel" his own sons sold their brother Joseph into slavery thinking that's the end not until famine struck the land God promised Abraham so they have to go all the way to Egypt for food.
Abeg was the God of Israel wrong for bringing Abraham to that place?
Is this God no longer powerful to make their land fertile?
Or it's the CURSE of selling their brother into slavery that brought such misfortune to them?

So when most people think about whiteman, slave trade and oppression they have forgotten that the misfortune wasn't the fault of those deities but curses brought upon the land by perpetrators of evil deeds!

cornelboy:
Their knowledge is based on misinterpretation and shallow knowledge of the scripture.

The three of them are suffering from madness of the highest order!

The OP believe the God of Israel should be worshiped without having to do with Jesus because Jesus never excited.
The atheist doesn't believe in the existence of God at all so he is against God and worship.
The third fool say Jesus is real but all existing religions claiming Christians are wrong.
Yet the three of them wants to talk about me because i have millions of brothers and sisters throughout the world practicing what i believe.

Is that not hilarious?

Funny cultist!
So to you God is interested in people living in a geographical location than those willing to hold onto His covenant shey?
Why are you this stupid?
Ṣàngó is from Ọ̀yọ́.
Please tell me between an Israelite who choose to become a worshiper of Ṣàngó right here in Ọ̀yọ́ and living by all the tenets of Ṣàngó, and an Ọ̀yọ́ indigene who doesn't care about the tenets of Ṣàngó who do you think this God will strike dead if the wrath of this God comes upon those living on its soil?

The same applies to the God of Israel.
This God ordered the Israelites to KILL an Israelite who goes against His laws yet Rahab and Ruth were welcomed among His people because they are willing to live by His rules.

So the laws given to Israelites back then was to make them an organized people worshiping the God of Abraham in a geographical location but after Christ that law is no longer in force since Jesus sent his disciples to go and make disciples of other nations {Matthew 28:19-20} are these converts expected to continue living by the constitution given to the nation of Israel?
NO!
Because they can't explain to their own rulers why they have to stone anyone among them to death for going against the rules of a foreign God surely that will make it difficult for any nation to welcome the religion.
That's why the rules must change to fit in to what makes practical sense globally.
But cultists like you can't understand since you don't even know why you are worshiping a foreign God.

bobestman:
Hmmm a certain athiest just lectured a brainwashed fellow from a cultist organisation. The Creator made an irrevocable couenant with his ppl. So when the bible says Hebrews or Jews (a fake name) it only refers to his ppl. In the verse the op quoted, it is only talking about Hebrews. Jews are the white impostors claiming to be Hebrews - Rev 2:9; 3:9. They have the land many years before the messiah came - 2 Kings 17. The Hebrews are your true teachers- Isaiah 44:7. You can't know the truth except the Mccoys the Hebrew come into the scene. Salvation or the truth will come from them - John 4:22. Paul warned you that they will wake up from their blindness or sleep one day. Isaiah prophecies shows they will first be restored. They will have a temple where everyone will go and seek their God. Only a true son can tell you about his father. A bastard can't. The unwise churchians that claim to replace Isreal are in a long sleep. You ppl don't know what you worship for salvation will come from the Hebrews - John 4:22

Goodman247:
Most Nigerians tend to be highly religious, Thier voice is like sounding cymbals, they can praise God will thier mouth but thier heart and doings are far from God, they can easily point fingers at someone that he does not go to church but that person is more righteous than them, you can access God at any place even in your personal house, they behave like the biblical pharisees, they can devise evil against Thier neighbours and fellow humans, they say they love God whom they have not seen but they hate thier fellow humans they see everyday, What is your take

You need to study the words Jesus spoke in the gospel accounts and compare to the Acts of apostles that's how to identify Jesus' group today they are practicing exactly what Jesus taught and they are found in almost all countries around the globe.
There is no single country where people aren't hypocritical about worship but the real Christians are different as they go about their activities orderly as an organized group.

Globad:
There are some sins that the modern day church has not been able to address
Why is this so? What does this mean for Christianity and religion generally?
Add yours to the list:
1. Homosexuality
2. Drug use
3. Drunkeness
4. Pre-marital sex: fornication and adultery
5. Porn
6. Masturbation
7. Abortion

Can you explain in details using the scriptures how the first church addressed it?

According to apostle Paul the man Jesus used to establish so many churches he said:

"Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

The highlighted in blue shows that these people were practicing what God's kingdom will not condone but with the ongoing process of taking in spiritual food from the church they were able to forgo these traits.

So how do you think the modern day church is not addressing the issue if preaching and teaching still continues till today? Matthew 28:20

Myer:
So many atheists are actually very knowledgeable about God and Christianity.

Do you think ATHEISTS have the knowledge of God at all?

The foolish atheist only quotes what his white supremacists infused in his head.

Take for instance he is quoting apostle Paul that a Jew must be by birth whereas in that same letter Paul made it clear to everyone that the REAL Jews aren't by birth but by faith:

"Circumcision is, in fact, of benefit only if you practice law; but if you are a transgressor of law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If, therefore, an uncircumcised person keeps the righteous requirements of the Law, his uncircumcision will be counted as circumcision, will it not? And the physically uncircumcised person will, by carrying out the Law, judge you who are a transgressor of law despite having its written code and circumcision. For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision something on the outside, on the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people" Romans 2:25-29

The first thing the Israelites does when they have a male child is circumcision on the eighth day {Luke 1:59} so all Jews are circumcised but when someone is not circumcised it simply means he is not a Jew naturally.
Therefore Paul is hereby saying that only those who believe in the Messiah are real Jews because they're the ones who should be called the descendants of Abraham who got the promise to become the ancestor of the Messiah and was willing to forgo everything he had just to meet up with this covenant:

"Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s offspring, heirs with reference to a promise" Galatians 3:29

Paul here was addressing the congregation (church) in Galatia a pagan nation calling them heirs with reference to a promise which means these ones doesn't need to be CIRCUMCISED like Israelites does naturally but they automatically become Abraham's descendants through faith in Christ Jesus.

So in what way does an atheist have the knowledge about God or Christianity?

FRANCISTOWN:
First of all, you cannot define ATHEISM to me. Atheism is not a scientific phenomenon or a rocket science that needs a rigorous explanation. Atheism is as simple as "come" so, keep your explanation.

The same way you can't define Christianity to me because Christianity simply means the movement of people who are Christlike.
So if you don't know those practicing what Jesus commanded then there's no need for any explanation from you after all you're an atheist one who doesn't believe in the existence of God!

cornelboy:
Where were the Gods of your ancestors, when the Europeans came to conquer them?
Or you should tell us more about the God you're talking about.

I have noticed that the young man isn't really interested in the truth it's the condition he found himself that determines the direction of his thoughts!
He feels that since black people believe in Jesus Africa supposed to be advanced like the countries where the Bible came from.
He doesn't know that God has no business with the system humans subjected themselves into! Ecclesiastes 8:9

Dustbinbint:
In a sense, you can say so. In the spiritual realm, God conducted a “procedure” where he had to convert Jesus life into a form that could fertilize Mary's egg cell.

Sonmvayina (22jumpstreet1) is a victim of one Judaist who has so brainwashed him with the idea that all the Gods worshiped throughout the planet are the same so whatever brings Jesus into what you want to say Sonmvayina will continue to oppose it no matter how much beneficial it could be!

22jumpstreet1:
its me quite alright..
i created this moniker on my laptop when i could not remember my password for the other account.
no biggie here..
There are million of people round the world obeying it..
we don't need to form a group or cult...
my mind tells me you where really abused as a kid hence your attachment to such group...
i might be wrong.

Intellect should tell you that there is no reason for laws in the absence of an organized people when God created the earth there was no Torah because only Adam and Eve existed as humans on this planet and God never made laws not until He established a nation that needs to be ORGANIZED.
So your thinking that people should randomly obey some laws without being ORGANIZED makes no sense at least those obeying laws should be grouped in order to know how they can assist one another when anyone is downhearted because depression kills morals and there's no law that can suppress depression except those close to you with whom you're keeping the same laws.
That's why you can never make any sense to me as long as you're not ready to present an organized people living by the laws you choose. Torah was like a king meant to keep the Israelites together as one family until the Messiah comes {Genesis 49:10} it's the Messiah that will establish the laws to govern all other PEOPLES no longer will the Torah be relevant after the coming of the Messiah.
The Torah became useless when people aren't living in the same geographical location that's what Jesus meant when he said:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth." John 4:22-24

By the time Jesus uttered the above statement the Samaritans (ten northern tribes of Israel) were no longer using the Torah only the Jews (three southern tribes) were still operating with it that's why Jesus told the Samaritan woman it will no longer be in force since the worshipers of Jehovah won't need to be in the same geographical location.

So calling God's people "CULT" will not change the fact that there is no need for LAWS if those living by it are not ORGANIZED its when they are organized that observers can see the sense behind the laws.

Maynman:
Yet you keep replying.
Eye service

OK henceforth i'll ignore you!

Maynman:
Ehn nah!

Can't you see i don't want to chat with you?

22jumpstreet1:
Torah is the way the truth and the life....whoever is lead by it can never be lost...

Sonmvayina stop quoting me no matter how many times you come with different accounts i can see you through the comment.
Go and continue obeying your Torah we are Jehovah's Witnesses if you can't present a group that's benefiting themselves using your Torah then your Torah is DEAD!

Maynman:
Dead like Yahweh

OK nah!

MindHacker9009:
How did Jesus Christ become the official religion in Europe and was taken to all the countries they occupied? It was because Jesus Christ appeared in the sky with a sword in 300 AD and helped Constantine to win his civil war in Rome if not no one would have heard of Christianity today.

Sorry your criticism is dead on arrival!

Talk about Jehovah's Witnesses who are doing what Jesus commanded not religionists claiming they're believers but disobeying Jesus' commands.

Maynman:
Dead like the god that dictated it

OK nah!

22jumpstreet1:
forget about being a member of a confraternity...

just be a loner obeying the divine laws..

you see all what they have been saying about JW...ALL these while...even if you have a good heart, but because you mention that you belong to them, they group you among them...

just obey Gods divine laws as contained in the Torah.

Ọmọ your Torah is DEAD!

It's rare to sin against the Holy Spirit because to do so the sinner must render his or her God's given conscience dead.
This is what sinning against God's Holy Spirit means:
You can't see God face to face but you can see His active force in action so when the first century Jewish disciples of Christ got baptized with God's Holy Spirit people in Jerusalem saw them and felt they're drunkards those saying this are sinning against humans because what the disciples were doing that day is not natural therefore anyone that speaks abusively about them did so not against the spirit of God.
But after Peter has reminded the Jews present at that event of what God said about pouring out His Spirit on Jews and the vivid evidence of it's fulfilment whoever among the Jews that will continue speaking bad about that event is no longer sinning against those involved but against God's Holy Spirit that's operating on those disciples of Christ.
That's why i said it's rare to see people sinning against God's Holy Spirit one who will do such must kill his or her God's given conscience first!