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Haynnie:
I'll Keep on asking, what are the material benefit for being a contented christain devoted to the services of God when an unbeliever/sinner is busy doing any means to secure the things (Wealth, power, fame, materialistic value etc.) of this world?

This is why i said:

You need to know the real Christians it's not about going to church!

But it's obvious you don't care to know us however i will drop the message.

The first century apostles of Christ asked the same question:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus answered:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—
houses,
brothers,
sisters,
mothers,
children, and
fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

So Jesus never promised one dedicated to Jehovah as his disciple that riches will be our gain rather we will have:
Houses ~ anywhere we travel to as one of Jehovah's Witnesses is home for us as long as members of our organization could be found there. Luke 22:11
Brothers, Sisters ~ all dedicated members of Jehovah's organization are like siblings. Matthew 23:8
Mothers ~ motherly care are there among God's people. John 19:26-27
Children ~ as an elderly dedicated worshiper of Jehovah younger members are our children. 1John 2:1; 5:21
Fields ~ there are crafts we can engage in when we meet each other we learn different trades and crafts to support ourselves. Act 18:3
Persecutions ~ faithless people will not like us so just like our Master, Lord and King we will be persecuted. Matthew 10:24-25

These are the things we will surely experience before we gain everlasting life.

God never promised His worshipers material possessions that's why there are poor ones among God's people! Luke 9:58

It's Satan who is promising his own worshipers the whole world! Luke 4:5-7

Aemmyjah:
So?
Who is Chief N. O Idowu
Why mention him now?

He just wants to talk back at you that's all!

Aemmyjah:
They represented God
Similar thing happened to Moses and the thornbush

Kumuyi boy has noticed that his thread never makes front page so in order to get more commentators he decided to include JWs.

I'm leaving his thread immediately!

OLAADEGBU:
Jehovah's Witness SILENCED After Seeing Jesus IS Yahweh

And now a Deeperlifer shey?

ojobolinda:
Thank you so much for this

You're welcome!

Aemmyjah:
He's like a wrestler who parades himself as champion
When he sees someone that constantly beats him, he tries to seek support from other wrestler he used to taunt and act friendly with them
That's what he did with these religious people he used to taunt
Atheists are no match
Very irrelevant, sadistic, reckless and overconfident set of worshippers

Exactly!

He wants to seek the support of misinformed churchgoers each time he comes in contact with JWs we always beat his intelligence so he is really really mad at himself!

Aemmyjah:
He has seen people who beat his intelligence hands down
He says he sees child molestation but ask him to honestly mention one he's observed or heard in his area that he verified, he can't.
He says we commit violence and posted a fake article of one demented individual that killed 13 people
Imagine him saying his teacher told him that labor is easy? I asked him to confirm from his wife or mum or any woman around him
Later, he said some women
Later he said goats
Person wey no well

That's what atheism turns them to: SADISTS.

So when engaging them i often choose my words carefully because they're suffering really hard emotionally drained as they can't find the purpose of life yet they're here!

You remind me of Enoch and Elijah, the two of them felt really bad about the events in their days so God took the both of them away from the sight of evildoers.
Enoch was sent to an early grave while Elijah was taken to another place where he couldn't see the bad things Israelites were doing again.
So you have asked just like those faithful servants of God.
However as servants of God in this time of the end we have a duty to find out people like us who are groaning regarding what is happening in our generation, we are to join them in the study of God's word and contemplating on what He wants us to do in support of His good plans {Malachi 3:16} angels will be commanded to write down names i pray that your name and mine be found written in the book of life! Revelations 20:15

May you have PEACE!

cornelboy:
If he can't write the "Bible" properly, I don't think his post is worth replying to.

Replaying to his post isn't about convincing him but it's like tormenting him because he is pained that there are religionists far smarter than his professors in atheism!

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix has no good sense walahi

He is really worried that all his professors in atheism has failed woefully lying to him that all religionists aren't intelligent so each time he reads comments from JWs he becomes bitter than ever before!

jaephoenix:
1. You borrowed the language, we know. So what language is the lingua franca of Nigeria? French? Yoruba? Igbo? Tiv? Hausa? If it is English, then make damn sure you can speak and understand it. And stop these stupid excuses.
2. You have no business with me, but you jump into my threads and other people threads uninvited. Idiota
3. The only fruit I can see from you is child mol@tation so I don't know what you're talking about

At least i'm living fine with or without the stupid lingual franca so you've got no point as long as you're the one engaging me you must humble yourself before me not the other way around.

From the look of things this is not your thread so you're the one needing me here i don't need you.

God has spoken in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated it at Micah 4:1-3 only Jehovah's Witnesses are meeting up with that so you're free to hold onto your PERSONAL opinion!

Emusan:
According to you, WICKED people are those who are once JWs but later turn their back on the organisation.
So, going by this your latest point, everyone that has never step their foot in your demonic hall (like me) will be resurrected. While people like you who rant every day might still not be resurrected.
Hope dey gidigba for me pass you self with all your brainwashed

You missed the point badly!

Can you present a better performing group?

You need to know why this question often hurt Ex-jws

Because as SANE humans we always opt for the best society where we can find love, joy and peace so once anyone has failed to point out a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES such a person has been judged already therefore no resurrection for him or her!

It's like a Jew who lives during the time of Jesus of Nazareth if he is still confused regarding who is the one and only teacher anointed by God among the Jews such a person remains INNOCENT from God's standpoint {Luke 23:39-43} but once he or she has noticed that Jesus is the most wonderful counselor ever after seeing that there is no better option whatever makes him rejects Jesus is direct judgement from God! John 3:16-18

There were two condemned criminals executed alongside Jesus the two of them knew Jesus has power to perform miracles but only one felt that Jesus' credentials is complete being a sinless prophet executed as a common criminal {Isaiah 53:12} so he woke up to quickly accept Jesus as Lord (King) that is why Jesus can't ignore him. Genesis 18:25

So beware!

BOSSkesh:
I always marvel at this
Why do people of the same race kill each other over foreign imported religion and gods

POLITICS!
Whether imported, foreign or local politics will always lead to bloodshed. Our ancestors killed one another when the white men hasn't come with their own religion.
So what was the reason back then?
POLITICS!

Perhaps he was disturbing the neighbourhood with noise {Matthew 12:19} it's really hard to attack preachers who are following Jesus' pattern.

POLITICS is the problem not RELIGION!

Politicians are using everything they have to further their career and FALSE religion is best in that aspect.

The one and only true religion gives no room for politics to thrive!

jaephoenix:
Learn to read and write English before engaging me. I asked what is God's will? What it means is what is the definition of god's will. I hope you know many christians believe their own denomination is always the best. Why is your own better than others if you still do the same thing they do

If you want to engage English go and talk to English man nah.
I'm not English i borrowed the language so if you want to engage me learn to respect me after all i didn't have any business with you before you quoted me.

If one thousand and one countries claim they are the best in electronics what should you do to know the best of the best?
Is it not by comparing their products to what is needed?

God's word says what humans need and only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is producing it so ask your friends to present the FRUIT of their religion just as i keep hammering on what God promised at Isaiah 2:2-4

Of course spirits can be destroyed but first they must be fully convicted before their death that's why the Bible said about dead Jesus:

"For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison" 1Peter 3:18-19

Jesus was a powerful spirit in heaven before his earthly mission so if he could be dead for days then God has the power to transform the life of all rebellious spirits into that which is liable to die in fact those rebellious angels are now worried knowing fully well that they are destructible but how?
They need to know through the mouth of Jesus' disciples to whom God will reveal most secrets! 1Peter 1:12

jaephoenix:
And you went off boil.
Must you use any opportunity to tout your child mol@sting group? I asked where this god's will is, and next you started telling me about jw.

If you asked for the place where something is operational and someone told you is it a crime?

You can continue deceiving yourself regarding JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION that's the one and only group doing God's will today whether you like it or not the Bible has given us what sane people should look out for as evidence of God's Hold Spirit working in the midst of imperfect humans:

They will come from different geographical locations on this planet and agree to use the Bible as their source of guidance {Isaiah 2:2-3; Micah 4:1-2} and the result will be settling all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

So your crying up and down about molesting children is not peculiar with only one group or organization and God never promised that the worshipers will be perfect rather they will be imperfect humans doing God's will perfectly as foretold in God's word!

Lack of knowledge is the problem! Hosea 4:6

Israelites became God's people for a reason, a promised King who will be anointed by God's Holy Spirit will be born right in their midst {Isaiah 9:6} whosoever disregard this prophet will be cast out from God's good plan for mankind {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so Israel remain God's chosen people as long as they stick to God's covenant with Abraham {Exodus 19:5} sadly the nation rejected God's covenant by killing His prophets {Matthew 23:37-38} and at last they rejected the promised Messiah (Christ) and stubbornly said the guilt of his blood should come upon their heads and the heads of their unborn generations {Matthew 27:25} that's why God rejected that nation and the blessing was given to another nation that will produce the FRUIT of God's kingdom! Matthew 21:43


After killing Jesus of Nazareth their rulers passed a bill that nobody should mention Jesus' name again in Israel they don't want his name or anything about him to be heard after his death {Act 4:18; 5:28} but his disciples who saw Jesus alive after his death and how he was taken to heaven in their very eyes can't stop talking about what happened! Act 5:29-32


Because of their wickedness, faithlessness and stubbornness the wrath of God came upon them finally and they were SCATTERED on the earth! Luke 11:23

Earlier this year their parliament passed that old bill again that Jesus' name must be banned in Israel:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyBY6AybJ4M?si=uUXb1e-LeV5Ln1Gy

And immediately God sent them a warning:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4owOHU2Hjk?si=WAkuxyMNUwH9Y_Vs

So let it be known that Israel as a nation is no longer God's people their location is no longer valid as center for pure worship {John 4:23} and another organization of faithful people has replaced them throughout the earth these ones now worship in SPIRIT and TRUTH. John 4:24

May you have PEACE!

jaephoenix:
Where is this god's will? And how did u determine it? If u say the God's will is in the Babble, then it doesn't make sense. How can you compare the babble against the same babble

God's will is logical and simple.

Are you a human? As humans we need love, joy and peace to make the society runs smoothly so if anyone as in ANYONE should be revered as SUPREME such a person must be able to maintain LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} in the midst of those adhering to the rules of such a being.
So try to find out any of the Gods you've ever heard of in the midst of whose worshipers those attributes permeates, i have done my own findings and discovered that it's only the worshipers of the Bible God called "Jehovah's Witnesses" have these attributes running in their gathering that's what God's will means!

Aemmyjah:
Just has a map has keys to help one understand the meaning of signs and symbols ln the map
The Bible also has keys to help sincere readers know which one is literal, prophetic , parables... Some just take everything literally tho

They never think twice when their pastors were spewing gibberish so they concluded they've heard it all!

jaephoenix:
So how do you know the passages that can be literally or idiomatically translated? And how did u know them?

By placing such passages beside God's plan (will) if you know that a man can't be a cheetah then you should know that whatever is written in the Bible which doesn't correlate with God's will is not to be taken literally!

The Antichrist has ruled over the church of Christ for almost two thousand years now his agents were first planted inside the church in the first century immediately after Jesus' ascension {Matthew 13:25 compare to 1John 2:18} and according to Christ himself weeds when left unattended to will overshadow seeds planted in a farm. Matthew 13:26-29

So the Antichrist grew so big that most people were enslaved under it for close to 2,000 years until Jesus returned in the year 1914 and called his people to come out of the spiritual bondage! Revelations 18:4

Today Jesus' church is enjoying the freedom to worship in many lands unlike few centuries back when you can't speak freely about what you believe.

What most people call RAPTURE has a totally different meaning from what the Bible teaches but it's only when you come in contact with Jesus' true disciples that you will know better! Act 18:24-26

May you have PEACE!

You're setting your own standard God isn't in anyway like you're assuming!

MyExpression:
I'm just tired of a non-responsive relationship with this Christian God.

He is closer now than ever before but you are the one who needs to be more attentive than just following misinformed churchgoers.

Will you like to know what God is doing around you presently?
Well it's written in your copy of the Bible that at this time in the history of mankind God will be doing something so if you're ready to know just type "YES" and i will show you right there in your own copy of the Bible.

First of all try to remove selfishness from your heart because He is the Creator and father of all so if you're trying to be His friend don't expect material gain because He never promise anyone that as you can see in the Bible that most of His worshipers aren't rich materially speaking.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Aemmyjah:
God sent an angel to Daniel to deliver a message but he was withstood by the prince of Persia for 21 days?
Common sense

According to Jesus the Prince of the world is Satan {John 14:30 compare to Luke 4:5-7} this means that whenever any country is ruling as world power that is where Satan's seat is. 1John 5:19

So when the Bible said the Prince of Persia stopped an angel of God it should be understood that it means a more powerful angel having authority over the earth is the one being referred to as the Prince in control of the world power at that point in time.

When Satan wanted to introduce religion into politics he used Nebuchadnezzar by making the man to build an image then at the sound of musical instruments all the people must bow (do obeisance) to this image. This is what the world has today as National Anthem but majority don't know what it really means.

Satan knows that his end is near so out of spite he wants God to wipe out everyone in existence so that He (God) would be found as a failure who can't see anyone doing His will on planet earth, with the National Anthem a so called Born Again Christian attending the same church with a Ghanaian would gladly carry weapons to aim at each other after each one saluted the flag of his own country but this are the ones claiming they're brothers in Christ obeying Jesus as Lord (King) who commanded them to love one another just as he love them! John 15:12

So the angel couldn't do anything until Michael (Jesus) who is the commander of all the armies in heaven arrived to rebuke Satan.

22jumpstreet1:
The messiah the Jewish prophet talked about will be a man from a kingly line...He will be anointed king he will be very knowledgeable in the torah he would rule with justice there would be no wars or oppression of any kind no nuclear weapon or any weapon of war and moreover Maxindhouse and his JW cult will not go knocking on peoples doors, because they will see it and experience it after the world religion has become disillusioned by their religion, they will look up to him for the knowledge of the true God, the creator of heaven and earth he is not a deity or divine in any way...and he is coming just once...he would do those things the prophet said he would do...that is how we will recognize him, not through magi or miracles.. God never said his servant was coming two times. it was because the Jesus character failed in their gospel that is why the catholic church invented the idea of a second coming...to still deceive you..

An Israelite king will be installed and suddenly turned the whole world into peaceful people so that they will no longer use weapons to settle their disparities anymore yet he will not force the idea on anyone nor send out preachers like Jehovah's Witnesses to teach the people why they need to obey him.

When some people just choose to be dumb it's better to leave them in their dumbness.

With the way things is going today even Israel is no longer a safe place not to talk of a king being installed to issue any order to people who doesn't want to be controlled.

But it's OK since that's what you choose than sensibility but you can't force that down our throat we know Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} and he has issued the order for his disciples to go out there and make disciples of all the nations {Matthew 28:19-20} so that obedient people can form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Act 1:8} throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} and whoever refuses to welcome the message of peace will be utterly destroyed {Matthew 10:14-15} by the time the Prince of Peace begin his rulership! Luke 19:27


You will see how it correlates throughout the scriptures and Jehovah's Witnesses doing the needful in your neighbourhood so that there will be no excuse for you by the time God's wrath comes upon you! Zephaniah 2:2-3

MightySparrow:
You were in love with Allah, not Jehovah. How did you get to know about Jehovah as s Muslim?

You're just a disguised atheist so you can't get the sense of what we're saying.
To love God differs from to be born into a religion or to join a religion due to what some people say.
I fell in love with the idea of God after i met the JWs but before then i found it really difficult to believe in anything call "GOD" not to talk of loving such entity.
So it was the way JWs explained what Jehovah wants me to know about Him in the Bible that i began to develop the interest in God and now the love i have for this invisible being keeps growing day after day as i notice idiots like you wandering around in hypocrisy yet wanting to be recognized as believers! 2Timothy 3:5

MindHacker9009:
Promoting an invented messiah is worse than an atheist. If the Messiah came 2000 years ago there will be no need today deceiving people that the Messiah came 2000 years ago, it be like trying to convince people that the Europeans came to Nigeria.

Over to you bobestman!

Aemmyjah:
But i did not know how to pray cos I hated shouting, praying for deaths of unknown persons or greedily asking for material things
I wrote my feelings to God as a letter and kept in under the church pulpit.

You just said my mind!

When i was still a Muslim i remembered my cleric condemning the JWs while preaching in the mosque he asked sarcastically:
"can anyone claim he is a witness of God?"

But during the call to prayer the caller always say:

"I'm bearing WITNESS that there is no God except Allah"

I can't just wrap my head around all these!

Aemmyjah:
Nothing can tempt me to wanting to collect money and teach false doctrines as a job
It makes me misrepresent God and adds more to my judgement
MightySparrow
If Jesus were on earth today
How many jets will he own?
How many cars?
How many schools and universities
How many bodyguards?

To be candid with you i just began love Jehovah (God) after i met the Witnesses but even before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses i can't just wrap my head around falsehood talkless teaching it because it makes me sick!

bobestman:
@Maxindhouse
Now that you have told us according to the bible those who entered the Ark, where did you get the Noah's babies you are trying to add to those who entered the Ark? Lol
So you now agree that a faithful person can err? If they are faithful and commit abominations what do you think is making God forgive them if not GOD'S MERCY. So it is not about faith cos one can be faithful and still not fear God. The key words here is Faithful and Innocent. I know you used faithful cos you think it is all about faith. Now i have made you understand that one could be faithful and be a sinner. The word you should have used is Righteous not Faithful. God only saves the righteous. It is written "everyone would be saved by their Righteousness" not Faith. Faith is nothing. You can be a FAITHFUL SINNER. So those faithful sinners were saved by GOD'S MERCY or GRACE cos of His covenant with their fathers. Righteousness and Innocence are the same. In the latter you avoid sin and is clean. You have been schooled again!

You just feel like arguing ọmọ there's nothing you can correct whenever i make a comment because you're an atheist with no knowledge about God.

After all your rambling you still agreed that only the FAITHFULS (not INNOCENT) are saved so whether mercy or not the fact still remains that only FAITHFULS are preserved.