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Janosky:
Very correct.
This is true rendition of Exodus 3:14 PROVEN by Hebrew language speaking Jews (screenshots).

Trinitarians always quote this mistranslation to support their trinity simply because Jesus said "before Abraham came into existence i have been"
Trinitarians translated it to:
"Before Abraham I am"
Then their clergy will correlate it with their "I am that I am" claiming Jesus is the same person.

So if any of them wants to know the truth we'll just leave it for such ones to make his own personal research!

jaephoenix:
You have a way of beating around the bush and losing focus.
Lemme repeat…
Is your organization the only one bringing people of all race, language, caste etc together?

Bringing them together for what purpose?

jaephoenix:
Your bible said by their fruits you shall know then. It didn't specifically say who the 'you' is. That means everyone, irrespective of their religious or non religious leanings should know

Hmmmmmmm so you mean a person who has never read or heard about the Bible will know what Jesus meant by FRUIT even if such a person hasn't studied the Bible to know what he meant by FRUIT?

Well there are many fruit sellers in the market perhaps we should start examining different fruits in the market!

Ọmọ no matter how intelligent you are a Bible student will prove to be 100 times smarter than you!

Janosky:
Oga, quote the holy scriptures & STOP ABUSING YOURSELF.

Don't mind that novice whenever he's stuck that's when he accuses people of being devils!

Dtruthspeaker:
Do Words go back into the mouth?

So Adam and all other creatures that came into existence through the utterances of God are not Gods but God's creations and Jesus is the firstborn of all the creations all protruding from God's mouth! Colossians 1:15

Instead of quoting scriptures and arguing we'll just reason from the scriptures to help anyone willing to learn!

Dtruthspeaker:
For you not to know this just proves that you are a devil who does not confess that Jesus is The Lord. It is proven that both you and your jw legions are devils.

Devil guy, just answer the question:

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where Jesus himself claimed he is the Creator?

Any architect could be employed to construct a house {Proverbs 8 30} but the real builder of the house is the employer of the architect who instructed him on what to do.

So if Jesus never claimed he is the Creator it means the initiative was never his own! John 5:30


Humble yourself and learn instead of going up and down calling everyone "devil devil"

4KNGOATS:
Can xtians be holly?

The adjective "HOLY" means "PUREST" or "BEST OF IT'S KIND"
Out of all the Gods known throughout the earth the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob claimed He is HOLY! Isaiah 48:17
What is the evidence that this God is truly worthy of such claim?

He also called His first organized worshipers "HOLY" Exodus 19:6

What quantify that nation as HOLY?

If we know answers to all these questions then we can figure out if the followers of a first century young Jewish carpenter named Jesus of Nazareth can be Holy.

jaephoenix:
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In the first Bible book God explained how a lot happened that led to what mankind is facing today. So to grasp the meaning of certain idioms later used as illustrations in the Bible you must go back to study that first book diligently.
God's word said Adam and Eve ate a certain FRUIT which led to their change in nature and they began growing old, got sickly and died.
What is that FRUIT?
Moreover God's word said there are many other FRUITS in that garden that's good for food too.
So when Jesus later said "By their FRUITS" you will recognize them he was talking about hurtful as in deadly concepts God didn't mastermind but men developed as time goes by.
For instance mankind was to scatter throughout the planet and live in all the geographical locations on it {Genesis 1:27-28} but due to fear of being wiped out with flood some other times they decided to stay in one location and build a tower in which they'll run perhaps God decides to repeat what happened during Noah's time. Genesis 11:4
That's why God confused their language and they scattered throughout the earth each person going with the one that understands his or her language. Genesis 11:6-9
So instead of seeing themselves as one big family racism set in as each is supporting his own dialect with everything they had whether right or wrong.
God promised to unite all right thinking humans under one umbrella so that they can form a global family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
It will be as if they're speaking the same language {Zephaniah 3:9} as they settle their disparities peacefully among themselves! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Whatever religion you find on this planet today you will notice that they're all fetching for members (supporters) of the concept they developed as their religion and ideology about God so as they're fetching for members their FRUIT will determine where they belong whether it's God's doing or man's.
Out of all the religions on this planet the one and only organization that's producing what God foretold in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Zephaniah 3:9 is Jehovah's Witnesses.
That's the only religion gathering people from all nations and making them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers where they've settled all their disparities among themselves as if they are speaking the same language.
They're going throughout the earth making disciples and inculcating in them what Christ Jesus commanded to love and pray for their enemies {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28} love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and be prepared to die for fellow members if the need arises! John 15:12-13

That's the one and only evidence of Christ's true disciples {John 13:34-35} and everywhere Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed they make disciples {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} having this same line of thought! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

That is the FRUIT expected of God's people which no other religion can produce no matter how hard they try they will only catch one tribe or race while people living in other geographical locations on this planet won't even know about them talkless being their member!

cornelboy:
So when Jesus went back into heaven, he went back into God's mouth?

You will hear lots of things from trinitarians!

Emusan:
But Jesus is the Creator and no sons of God ever claimed that!

Can you quote where Jesus himself claimed he is the Creator?

advocatejare:
I will keep asking until become man enough to answer:


Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

advocatejare:
Of course I will keep asking until become man enough to answer:


Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

[quote author=Kalatium post=125220541]Religion has not yet come to terms with the current technological revolution.[quote]Instead of beating about the bush why not say what is in your heart regarding the confusion you're experiencing due to false religious ideas!

Well the true God gave man the privilege to go and make research regarding technology that's man's duty not God's!

Emusan:
See incoherent jargons.
Jesus came from heaven to be part of God's spirit sons who are in heaven
How does this even make sense to you?

Jesus is God's son who came down from heaven and there are many spirit sons of God in heaven so he is one of them simple. All these jargons of God being father, son and at the same time holy ghost is what makes no practical sense!

cornelboy:
So you just repeat that without understanding it? Are you saying Jesus is the word in God's mouth?

Anything goes for trinity so far it's not about Jesus (who came from heaven) to be part of God's spirit sons (angels) who are in heaven!

advocatejare:
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

jaephoenix:
Again you err.
You said its only your organization that bear this 'fruit', so are you saying other organizations or sects don't have this fruit?

You're really funny with your "Neutrality"

Do you know the FRUIT expected of worshipers of God during the endtime?

If you don't know it how can you say i err for saying only Jehovah's Witnesses are producing it?

HellVictorinho6:
Please,can u help me with 1k?

Years 2023! beggy beggy again?

Below are your threads all about witchcraft.

Ọmọ are you sure all is well with you the way you're always talking about spirits and magic?

I hope you don't run mad one day in the pursuit of demonic powers to solve your problems o!

So calm down and think of how to live a simple lifestyle, seeking demonic powers won't solve your problems, everyday comes with it's own troubles we just need to find a way to cope and move on!

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MightySparrow:
Shrine goer.
How market?

OK so you admitted that you're a churchgoer?

Hmmmmmmm this is wonderful!

I said my friend is busy arguing with churchgoers and only you responded to counter my comment.

Henceforth i will no longer respond to you now it's obvious you know that you're just a misinformed churchgoers and you're not ready to learn!

My people are great but most of them have been brainwashed by disguised atheists who are claiming PASTORS in our society, these are the ones blurring their senses into gathering all their resources and turning it into money just to pay these PASTORS for no reasonable service to the society.
So instead of our youths to make use of their brains to invent in Nigeria these so called "men of God" have sown greed, selfishness and showy display of material possessions in the hearts of our youths hence most of our youths are using their brains for fraudulent activities while others are into prostitution!

johnw47:
i don't have pastors and so learn nothing from them,

Idiot!
You don't believe in pastors neither do you learn anything from them yet you're claiming those following them are your brothers in faith is that not first grade hypocrisy and madness?

johnw47:
you know very well i'm not interisted in chatting with you devils mob,

Do you think i'm interested in chatting with some insane like you?
Well for your information i'm setting matters straight using the full strength of the scriptures to help any right thinking follower of the thread to see the difference between a true Christian and a deluded misinformed churchgoer, between a fully competent and completely equiped Bible scholar compared to a empty barrel who is claiming believer:

"But what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to eliminate the pretext of those who are wanting a basis for being found equal to us in the things about which they boast. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ" 2Corinthians 11:12-13

So whenever you're agitating and crying over my comments i know how my comments are itching you really hard!

Abi1985:
I wish more Nigerians operate like you think

About 370,000 Nigerians are operating the way i stated but what effect can that little number make in the midst of almost 250,000,000?
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses our activities is to make peace with everyone in our society by telling them what we think about God and knowing what they think then we can either agree to worship the same God joyfully or each person worship his own peacefully without insulting or cursing his neighbour for having a different opinion about God.
The major purpose of our preaching and teaching is to discuss with people around us how we can all cohabit peacefully and leave the rest to God so that He will judge between the evil and the good people!

MightySparrow:
You know what your Alfas were doing nah!
Ẹni ba kọ́'lé ti ọja , ti da 'ran ariwo...
We are together

If you need knowledge ask but stylishly asking and later throwing tantrums is insincerity for any sane human.

CHARMS/AMULETS are never meant for attack rather they're to protect their owners because there is a spirit attached to each amulet people wear. Before attacking anyone demons need to see something familiar or friendly around the accused person that's why God told the Israelites never to practice magic because whatever makes you practice magic then demons are working with you.
When the Israelites left Egypt Archangel Michael was leading them as Jehovah's representative {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} so no demon can follow them. Balam tried to curse them but it won't work because the Israelites has nothing to do with demons but as soon as they got in contact with demons through the worship of Moabite gods all the curses came to them. WHY? Because the angel protecting them has been irritated with the filth brought into their camp.

If their Allah truly have any power to attack those speaking against it let all of them stand before their black stone and ask their god to attack those speaking against it instead of carrying weapons to kill people.

To me there is no Allah but powerless demons that only give them charms/amulets to protect themselves from attack.

jaephoenix:
Lemme oblige you for a moment, and agree with you. So its only your organization that exhibit these 'fruits'?

You don't need to just be neutral as you claim and ask each religionist claiming Christian to prove what the FRUIT is then explain how their religion is bearing it.

Mind you the FRUIT is just one unique thing that God planned to achieve with pure worship so it's not FRUITS but one FRUIT.

Jesus is saying each religion has their own fruit that's what he meant when he said:

By their FRUITS (as in different religions) will produce their own kind of fruit but as for God's organization you need to know the type of fruit expected.

You're an atheist and you trust in testable logic that's approved by your own school of thought not just whatever anyone choose to present so if you're truly neutral ask all these people to present the TESTABLE LOGIC Jesus Christ talked about instead of pointing accusing finger at one another. That's nonsense and Ingredient if they truly want to prove they're for Jesus then they must stick to what he said about how to figure out the true religion! Matthew 7:16-18

advocatejare:
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Abi1985:
They should leave people alone if they do not want to accept their religion.

Leaving people alone is not the issue but accepting the fact that everyone is free to hold onto whatever religion or thought they feel is right.
For instance if someone says:
"there is no God"
It's not my business to start insulting, cursing or accusing him simply because i believe in a book where it's written that God exist.
And if someone says:
"God is a stone"
I shouldn't start criticizing him simply because it's written in the book i carry that stone can't be God.
My duty as an intellectual is to look for ways to find a neutral ground on which my neighbour and i can cohabit peacefully, as for God whether He/She/It exists or nor that's left to the God but i must make peace with my fellow human whom i can see before thinking about any God that i can't see.
That's how real intellectuals thinks!

jaephoenix:
To be honest, he doesn't need to. Remember you have been claiming your sect is the best thing after sliced bread. He hasnt made any of such claims concerning his own sect. So since you made the claim, then you have to defend it by answering his questions and staking your claim. Basic logic.
End of

Of course my group is the one and only true religion on this planet but that's not how to prove it according to God's word which none of them can refute there's nothing any of them can say against my group that's strange among God's people.

So if it's about proving that my group is the one and only true religion then we must follow the testable logic given by the founder of Christianity himself: Jesus Christ.

According to Jesus it's not about what happens to imperfect humans that we are to determine the one and only true religion rather it's about a certain FRUIT expected of God's organization {Matthew 7:16} so if they're ready let's get to work by reading, studying, meditating and judging from the viewpoint of Jesus Himself!

The problem is immaturity!

No matter what a person beliefs so far he has kept his peace with others in the society such a belief is his cup of coffee but there's a secret:

Most people claiming Christians, Muslims, Traditionalists, Judaists, Atheists and Agnostics in Africa do feel intimidated when others don't accept their religion!

cornelboy:
Who's the son?

The same person he calls the father and it's the same as holy ghost!