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Instead of humbly learning from Jehovah's Witnesses you're crying all over Nairaland.

Most of you people are worshipers of the gods of the founders of your different religions that's why your teachings and doctrines always contradicts one another yet you people are claiming believers in one man Jesus who prayed for all his disciples to have the same line of thought on doctrines! John 17:22

WHY?

Because all of you have human founders not Jesus so instead of readjusting your beliefs and practices to conform to Jesus' thoughts words and actions you people are focusing on the lifestyles of your human founders. So you think Jehovah's Witnesses are doing the same!

advocatejare:
You’ve not answered my questions and you are asking me questions. Something is wrong with your brain! Answer all the questions I have been asking you since and I’ll answers yours. You think you can use diversion technique? Be a man, answer my questions

Whose brain is disturbed now?

Is it me who is substantiating what FOUNDER means or you who is irrationally agitating over what you don't grasp?

Ọmọ keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Dtruthspeaker:
Knock yourself on john 5:30. O i forgot. You devils have deleted this one too from your bible.

My own God is the Almighty who has no senior He created all things including Jesus who is His firstborn, that's what Jesus told us! John 20:17

Newshome:
Can we have a minute of silent prayer that bad things will not happen before the year ends ?

Do you truly BELIEVE this man from Nazareth?

This is what he told his real disciples in the first century:

“Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you. So never be anxious about the next day, for the next day will have its own anxieties. Each day has enough of its own troubles" Matthew 6:33-34

“But pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with overeating and heavy drinking and anxieties of life, and suddenly that day be instantly upon you as a snare. For it will come upon all those dwelling on the face of the whole earth. Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that must occur and in standing before the Son of man.” Luke 21:34-36

Surely lot of EVIL things are yet to happen so Jesus admonished his disciples to PRAY for an escape not for bad things not to happen.

May you have PEACE!

Dtruthspeaker:
Offu Point! Even though "our God" has already explained that He acts under the Authority of His Father, john 5:30. But this is offu Point!

Your God has a father, elder, senior, ancestor. Shey?

Dtruthspeaker:
Offu Point!

Fugitive!
Go and ASSOCIATE with your fellow BELIEVERS otherwise you're not a believer at all the word BELIEVE connotes TRUST in beliefs of a certain group of people and such beliefs is binding on all members.
So if you can't find any group then you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS (INIQUITY) It's the same as saying no community worths your liken throughout the earth meaning you're a lawless man that's why you can't find any community to associate with! Matthew 7:21-23

jaephoenix:
Since you're accusing me of not being neutral, I leave you to your device. By the way, advocatejare's question needs an answer

He is deceiving himself, that's why i ignored him.
First of all he needs to tell me the founder of his own church, then the life history of the person in question then his questions will be answered satisfactorily.

Of course you're not neutral as you claim since you're not interested in knowing who the founder of his own religion is rather you're just interested in rumours.

The founder of any group means someone on whose thoughts, words and deeds a group is formed so even after such a person has died the legacy will remain as the foundation of the group but in this case your friend is saying something and i want to help you all to see that he's mistaking just to discover that you're not sincere in your findings.

Charles Taze Russell was a member of a group formed in the late 19th century this group was dedicated to finding out how Christianity supposed to be practiced since there are countless religious sects all claiming they're Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. He became the president or Chairman of that group because the American government doesn't recognize any group without a spokesman and ever since then the group kept making research on the lifestyle, ministry, thoughts, words and actions of a first century Jewish young carpenter named Jesus of Nazareth whatever they discovered or concluded after a thorough research on the scriptures will lead to adjustments in their beliefs.

That's why i keep asking advocatejare to tell us the founder of his own church because i know for sure that he doesn't understand the meaning of that word "FOUNDER" he's just following whatever people say.

So if the teachings and doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses organization keep changing based on what we found in the scriptures regarding the life history, ministry, thoughts, words and actions of Jesus of Nazareth then how do you think Charles Taze Russell who was just a member or spokesperson of the research group the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are the teachings and doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses based on the life history, ministry, thoughts words and actions of Charles Taze Russell or that of Jesus of Nazareth?

For your information Charles Taze Russell do celebrate his birthday, he was bearing the title PASTOR, he also celebrates Christmas and used the image of cross until his death in 1916 whereas all these have become unscriptural practices among Jehovah's Witnesses today.

So in what way is Charles Taze Russell the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

Thanks for your time!

Janosky:
"ANY ONE" who believes in His Son MUST
[b]OBEY Hebrews 13:7,17
7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account.[/b] Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.
Sink that word "LEADERS" into your skull.
I don't need to lecture you that LEADERS & Organisation goes hand in hand.
Is Hebrews 13:7,17 in your Bible?
DSPEAKER of FALSEHOOD delete that portion from your Bible and continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Cain wanted to be counted among worshipers of the true God and at the same time detests leadership of the flock as instituted by Jesus himself!

Janosky:
It's Stupidity to attempt to bar anyone else from making posts on this public forum.

One thing i often do is express myself so that if you're coming to quote or mention me you will know that it's either you hate me or like me.

If you like me then there's no need criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses because that's the source of my understanding, and if you hate me it's a welcome development.

I'm not here to make friends rather the little time i have is to make disciples who are ready to serve shoulder by shoulder with me as Jehovah's Witnesses. Period!

Dtruthspeaker:
Kai! Satan is evil o. Devils calling themselves Christians

Please explain what you're doing with other members of your chosen religion that makes you CHRISTIANS in line with what is written in the Bible!

Dtruthspeaker:
See it Stupid devil. It is now very clear that you people are Satanists and atheists.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,(Mathew 2:11, Philippians 2:9-11/Mathew 14:11.) to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
From the very beginning in Genesis The Lord is written in uppercase so it is very understandable why David would write in uppercase.
And in.Genesis 4:1, it was written "the Lord" to show us it does not matter. Same thing we see in Genesis 18:26/27/30. Whom Abraham was speaking to.
So child of Satan you wrong and a devil and you have nothing to say and definitely The Lord will never forget your blasphemies.

According to Psalms 110:1 David addressed TWO persons with the title one LORD and the other Lord.

So tell us who is talking to who?

Dtruthspeaker:
As long as you have now seen that you are a fool for not.seeing ANYONE(SINGULAR) John 11:25 that God is looking for, i have nothing more to say to than you shall burn in pieces!

Believers (plural) are individuals from different geographical locations coming together nah but you're just a fugitive who disowns all gatherings of BELIEVERS claiming all gatherings are led by evildoers.

Yet Jesus is the head of his CHURCH (assembly of Christians)

Ọmọ if you can't find any gathering where you can worship God it means you're a worker of LAWLESSNESS who doesn't want to submit to the rules binding on other BELIEVERS, Jesus doesn't know you o! Matthew 7:21-23

Dtruthspeaker:
The moronic thing about you is how greatly stupid and evil you are not to real eyes that God is looking for "ANY ONE" (SINGULAR) John 11:25 and not a group of liars and demons claiming believers.

So you're the ANYONE while all assemblies of worshipers are evil shey?

advocatejare:
Follower of useless Russel whose lifestyle was against the teaching of Jesus Christ, and not worth emulating

Followers of Russell who don't celebrate birthdays, who don't bear Pastor titles, who don't celebrate Christmas like Russell shey?

Continue deceiving yourself!

Dtruthspeaker:
Mathew 2:11, Philippians 2:9-11/Mathew 14:11.

OK nah!
OLÓDO!
After verifying in the KJV you can't quote the Old Testament anymore to support your Jesus God lies shey?
Why not address the point i raised about two lords one referring to God Almighty and the other referring to Jesus?

At least it's the same King David who wrote Psalms 95:6 and Psalms 110:1

So prove me wrong using the KJV that Jesus is the one David was talking about @ Psalms 95:6

advocatejare:
A noisemaker is better that your useless founder called Russel whose lifestyle was against the teaching of Jesus Christ, and not worth emulating.
MaxInDHouse
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Dtruthspeaker:
Only those who do the will of God are BELIEVERS and not those who claim to be BELIEVERS. Mark 7:6
And definitely you jws are not BELIEVERS but devils and demons!

The funny thing about you is how stupid you're not to see that BELIEVERS (plural) aren't isolated noisemaker like you but a gathering of faithful individuals who has learned how to put their mistakes in the past and worship as a family! Hebrews 10:24-25

Dtruthspeaker:
Psalm 95:6
Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord, our Maker

Mumu!

Check the quotation very well on the KJV.

That LORD is fully in upper case showing that it's not about Jesus rather the LORD who sent Jesus:

O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.Psalms 95:6

The KJV referred the Almighty God as LORD while Jesus is referred to as Lord:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.Psalms 110:1

So it's another person that Psalms is referring to not Jesus!

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the antiChrists

Says a so called Christian who has abandoned the gathering of fellow believers! Hebrews 10:24-25

Well maybe it's their numerous ancestral Gods that's punishing them!

cornelboy:
Lol.

Really hilarious!

Abi1985:
Even though I am not Jehovah Witness or do not plan to be one. I can see their consistently in reaching out to people

Well love, endurance, tolerance and equity is what Jesus taught us so whoever hates such will surely hate us with passion! John 17:14

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MindHacker9009:
The Jews went and checked their Torah and Tanakh which showed that Jesus was nowhere near their Messiah.

NO!
Jesus proved beyond all reasonable doubt he's the Messiah but 99% of the Jews in the first century were as unreasonable as you are today!

They wanted a King that will lead them to wars fighting the nations around them {John 6:15} while Jesus was teaching them how to reach other nations with the GOOD NEWS that the Messiah who will destroy all evildoers on this planet has come. Daniel 2:44 compare to Isaiah 9:6-7

Surely if they must do this effectively there is no room for hatred in their hearts against the people they are going to preach to {Matthew 5:43-48} but those Jews were killers and racists who don't see others as humans deserving the love of their promised King (Messiah) most especially Romans who were oppressing them back then.

So for Jesus to come preaching and teaching love for Samaritans (Northern Israelites) Romans (Colonialist) and surrounding nations that's being lifetime enemies of the Jews really irritates them.

Take for instance Jews came to Jesus asking him to specify who really are the neighbours they're supposed to love according to God's laws {Luke 10:29} because Jesus made it clear to them that whoever they're able to assist is their neighbour {Luke 10:30-37} these racists all got really mad but they don't know how to deal with Jesus for getting on their nerves.

So when Pontius Pilate asked them what he should do to Jesus who was brought forward to be punished by their religious leaders even though they know all the atrocities of their leaders they were really glad that Jesus has fallen into their trap so they asked for his execution {Matthew 27:15-23} Pontius Pilate washed his hands off the blood of this innocent man {Matthew 27:24} this bloodthirsty racists said Jesus' blood should come upon them and their unborn generations! Matthew 27:25

So my guy you're saving your money with a liquidated Bank the Jews are doomed for good {Matthew 21:43} they can never ever produce the FRUIT of God's Kingdom as prophesied by two servants of God:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

They are CURSED {Matthew 23:37-38} that's why a mosque is what is now built where their former temple was standing in which they're bowing towards the black stone in Mecca something that's really detestable to the true God they're claiming is their God! Mark 13:1-2

Naijaboy18:
Mmm I don’t believe that

It's misinformed churchgoers that does all the things you're saying.
The REAL CHRISTIANS (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) don't worship Jesus because:

The true God has made other faithful servants like Gods before Jesus {Exodus 7:1; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1} He is one JEHOVAH (YHWH) not three persons in one God misconstrued by churches of Christendom {Deuteronomy 6:4 compare to Mark 12:29} Jesus himself declared JEHOVAH is the one and only true God {John 17:3} Jesus told his disciples that himself and all worshipers of JEHOVAH have ONE father and God {John 20:17} Jesus cried for help when he's under severe test! Hebrews 5:7

So he is not the one true God that Christians in the first century worshiped back then.

And before i leave tell trinitarians that Thomas never referred to Jesus as his Lord and God rather he said so in amazement after seeing a dead man walking around alive with holes in his palm the bruises inflicted on him when he was executed. John 20:26-28

The same thing often happen when we see what seems impossible we will shout in Yorùbá:
Olúwa Ọlọ́run mi ò!
Meaning
My Lord and my God!

It doesn't mean we have seen God or that God is visible at the event.

Meanwhile if you want to know the significance of Jesus of Nazareth and what he has done so far for mankind in our time you're free to ask me it's not just about quoting what is written in a book rather we will both consider the practical applications and benefits of what Jesus did in the first century and it's benefits today!
Thanks!

sonmvayina:
but the new convenient is God writing his laws in their heart, not some body dying on the cross..... you are just too dishonest..
read read Jeremiah 31 again..

The problem you're having is those faithless idiots claiming "Jews" because reading, quoting and cursing people due to what is written in a book makes no practical sense if you can't present the benefits of what you're quoting.
Jehovah's Witnesses are performing globally and it's exactly what God promised that's done in their midst.
So you can go to hell with you, your faithless Judaists and your hopeless Torah!

advocatejare:

MaxInDHouse
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking? Matthew 7:7

Ekrenji:
Answer the questions advocatejare asked you

Come and force me to answer the noisemaker!

Ekrenji:
You are the fool here mr man, you are always everywhere acting like you know everything and someone asked questions about the foundation of your religious sect and you are wailing and looking for escape route by trying to pounce on me. I don’t have time for your nonsense attitudes, face the person that is asking you the questions you are uncomfortable to answer!

Ọmọ so you can actually type all this yet you've not answered the simple question i asked you shey?

Even if you like go and jump into the lagoon because i will continue to chat with anybody that's ready to learn, if you're not comfortable with that it's your problem not mine!

englishmart:
Which politician asked for Deborah's lynching?

Who are supposed to fish out the killers and deal with the perpetrators?

Politicians, Pastors or imams?

If politicians aren't behind it the pictures of the killers are on the internet, a politician spoke against the act on Twitter and within just few hours deleted it.
How many sons or daughters of politicians has been involved in such attacks?
Are you saying they're not known in the higher institutions?

Guy there are lots of things going on in the underworld so the more you look the less you see, it takes high intellect to solve the riddle!

Ekrenji:
I see!

Blackman's mentality!

Someone accuses the other and the next thing a black man awaits is SHOWTIME instead of thinking about what could have led to such an accusation that's unfounded?

OK now that i choose not to respond to the noisemaker according to his foolishness what has happened?

Ekrenji:
Mtcheew.Why don’t u face the person asking you questions and give him the answers?

You should be wise enough to say whatever interests you in the discussion between two persons!

talk2hb1:
So You Want us to believe you are a Spy?
NIA or DSS?

Format my personal details in your system and focus on the subject matter:

RELIGION or POLITICS what's fueling the killing and terrorism in our world today?