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Sand2022:
It is really deep. How someone with bible will still be told that without a group of men in New York, he can't be saved, he still believe. Even when it is clear that salvation is by faith in Christ. E shock me.

https://www.nairaland.com/7532433/144000.html
https://www.nairaland.com/7482212/jehovahs-witnesses-babylon-great
https://www.nairaland.com/7471284/jehovahs-witnesses-inconsistent-interpretation
https://www.nairaland.com/7471236/jws-death-acquittal

So you too has a lot going on in your head about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Out of 6 threads 4 is based on JWs!

Ọmọ there's something to learn about this group o! Matthew 5:14-16

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob allowed his worshipers to be enslaved in the world's most powerful nation for centuries to show that no King or nation could rescue them from slavery.
Then He took two octogenarians (Aaron and Moses) to Egypt and without a military action this God singlehandedly rescued millions of people from the hands of the most powerful nation back then!
That is how this God gained recognition globally!

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just proving more and more why I jws are antiChrist else you would have known this. Every Christian knows this.

I wonder how someone just talk thoughtlessly like this yet claiming he's a disciple of Jesus:

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the stupid one whose generation are the most stupid people the world has never seen as they have confessed. And you are so stupid not to see the signs that it is your generation that the world is slowly destroying with sufferings, depression, failures and deaths such that you people are growing gray hair ftom 30. You are finished already.

I haven't accused you of anything other than your attitude towards people so if you can't quote the scriptures that says Jesus is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob keep your beliefs to yourself i'm not ready for your exchange of hurtful words!

Dtruthspeaker:
Jesus is The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so i am in order and under Psalm 94:16

Where is this written in the Bible?

Sand2022:
Jesus evidence for representing God was miracles, your GB doesn't have any miraculous evidence to establish God chose them.

God told the Israelites that another prophet will come in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} Moses and Jesus were like Gods in the midst of their generation {Exodus 7:1; Isaiah 9:6} both of them were given the power to perform SIGNS as evidence of God's approval regarding their mission.

But when it comes to Jesus' disciples they can only perform SIGNS as long as Jerusalem exists once that city is destroyed with it's temple all supernatural gifts will cease {1Corinthians 13:8-10} so if that's what you're banking on then i pity your condition {Matthew 7:22-23} according to Jesus the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit (not GIFT) will be the evidence that God is backing a group. Matthew 7:16-18

What is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit?

LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

According to apostle Paul whom Jesus used to connect people of all other nations whoever disregards the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit but is trying to find fault with the group God's is using is deceiving himself!

Sand2022:
I respect your believes sir. You're entitled to it.

Just as you're also entitled to yours!

Dtruthspeaker:
I attacked a dog who blasphemed The Lord as commanded, whats your justification?

Commanded by who?
And to whom?

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob spoke to the Israelites through prophets {Hebrews 1:1} you're not an Israelite so the person God used to speak to people of the nations like you and i is Jesus {Hebrews 1:2} Jesus commanded his own disciples never to curse anyone! Luke 6:27-28

Definitely you deliberately disregard God's son and instead of being remorseful you're trying to justify your disobedience to God's son.

So go and learn how to converse maturely i'm not your kind!

Sand2022:
It is really deep. How someone with bible will still be told that without a group of men in New York, he can't be saved, he still believe. Even when it is clear that salvation is by faith in Christ. E shock me.

Why must salvation be through a first century Jewish man called "Jesus"?
Why not through your own daddy?
Or are you saying your own daddy is evil?

God's plan is that salvation will come through the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob then the child that will be born through that lineage is the wonderful counselor, then a group will emerge as representatives of Jesus {Matthew 24:45} so failure to ACKNOWLEDGE God's plan means you're on your own! Matthew 25:34-46

Dtruthspeaker:
See jw perversion.
No where did Christ see "all the judges" only the judge He was arranged to see o.
Now who is committing the sin of lying.aka perversion and twisting, is it jw beliefs or you the doer of evil?

See your chat with a fellow human like you:

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the mad drug fed failure who his olosho mother rejected and threw in the dustbin. Your madness is obviously working. Useless universal failure. Gray haired at 30, died at at 30 and 2 months.

Go and learn how to converse maturely before coming to me!

cococandy:
No I think it’s just her personality
My cousin is a JW and he’s the opposite of her. jaguda person

You've said it all: your cousin!

Note that the lady in question is not related to you so it only a little you'll know about her which makes her the angel you're describing but your cousin is related to you so you will always focus on his errors but all JWs are taught the same thing the application is what makes each of us differ from another.

preciousee17:
focus on proving that your message is genuine. It's not the Church I argue against, just the message.

So what is the THEME of your MESSAGE?

cococandy:
true
one can’t help but love her though, she’s very easily lovable

That's JWs for you!

preciousee17:
You're deviating from everything and wrongly chasing one line of my point.
You mistranslated the Bible.
The normal judge I meant was Caiaphas and the other guy that Caiaphas referred Jesus to, not the Pharisees.
Then 2. Check the fruits of my Church Members (God's lighthouse)... Ask your people in Uyo...
The only difference here is your mistranslation, not all these random points that seem special for you.
Let's stop beating about the bush
Can you use scriptures to prove your translation?
If I drop my scriptures, will you run and avoid them?

It will result in fruitless arguments since you'll stick to what your church teach you but if you want to talk about the activities of true disciples of Christ and the fruit expected of them count me in!

Why arrest him?
If the god of Islam is alive let him strike the man but if not then all Muslims defaming other religions in their mosques claiming they're preaching should be arrested!

EnvyandHate:
There is no black Jesus it does not exist.
Keep Jesus Brown.

Only fools judge others due to skin color real intellectuals have nothing to do with skin color rather what we cherish is your IQ.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet you unculturedly mixed my post from 2 threads with the one not even directed at you. That is not what a cultured person would have done.

To show you the type of person you are which is totally unchristian from the viewpoints of the Author of the Bible:

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you. To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also; and from him who takes away your outer garment, do not withhold the inner garment either. Give to everyone asking you, and from the one taking your things away, do not ask them back" Luke 6:27-30

If you disregard the speaker above then i have nothing to discuss with you!

EnvyandHate:
Your biblical identity matters to God because He is the one who assigned each their destiny.

This is a lie!

The only identity is FAITH.

Job's descent has nothing to do with the God of the Bible or was Job an Hebrew? Job 1:2

NO!

Yet the true God IDENTIFIED that faithful man in his generation. Job 1:8

So stop this racist thinking the true God doesn't go with race rather He picked Abraham out from the midst of worshipers of IDOLS to liberate him not that Abraham has anything special than all others in his generation other than honesty and sincerity!

cococandy:
one of my best friends is a Jehovah’s Witness. Very nice lady. 8 years now. I really like her

This is because you think straight as to why she disagree with what you believe so you're liberal regarding other people's right to their beliefs.
But i'm telling you that most people will tell you that she's a devil simply because of her beliefs not how she treats people in her neighbourhood!

preciousee17:
Because he didn't actually twist any translation or blaspheme (in the eyes of the normal judge)

That's exactly what you should think about!

All the judges in Judea agreed that Jesus is guilty of twisting God's word so he deserves to die {Matthew 26:65-66} these are people who are KNOWLEDGEABLE in the scriptures!

So what could make a normal judge differ from these Jews?

Well any normal judge will ask:
What is the will of their God who authored the scriptures they're contesting?

Only Jesus was able to organize his disciples so that they're going about preaching zealously and industriously teaching {James 2:18} in all their neighbourhood to fulfil what their God foretold in the scriptures {Isaiah 2:2-4 and Zephaniah 3:9} all other Jewish schools of thought were racists fighting and killing one another for political reasons so they can't preach nor teach to make peace loving worshipers as their God foretold! Micah 4:1-3

That's how to figure out a normal judge!

preciousee17:
As for your point on actions, not words... I believe that not only your organization are doing it, but even other Churches and non-christian religions... How do you think my Church found me?

All religions are fetching for members to increase their number but the purpose of such a religion is to gain relevance so Satan who is the ruler of this world {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} is recruiting his agents right in the midst of all the false religions so that their members can be used to forward political ambitions.
But only Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) can't be recruited to support Satan's system of government that's what Jesus meant when he said:

When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword! Revelations 6:3-4

So my friend, i'm not disputing the fact that all other religions are fetching for members but by their fruits we will distinguish between the God's children and Satan's agents! Matthew 7:16-18

Janosky:
REMOVE the rafters in Christendom & STOP WAILING about JWs.

This thread shows only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have a unique teaching that could be used as standard to rate all other religions claiming Christians.
All of the religions claiming Christians have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines but then the OP singled out Jehovah's Witnesses asking all the others to come and explain why they disagree with the one and only organization that's standing out:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house". Matthew 5:14-15

So my brother let them continue arguing among themselves at least they can all see that there is confusion among them yet they're all seeing the city located on the highest mountain: Jehovah's organization! Isaiah 2:2

abuhari:
FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE:
1. Shahada (Mark 12:29)
2. Salat (Matthew 26:39)
3. Zakah (Hebrew 10:24)
4. Fasting (Matthew 4:1-1)
5. Hajj (Psalm 84:5-6)

This is what you find similar to the religion of your parents in the Bible and i want you to know that other religions like Buddhists, Hindus, Traditionalists, Judaists and Christendom each have what to back their religions in the Bible.
The truth is that God introduced all these after Adam and Eve became rebellious so if anyone wants to know how to worship God acceptably the first question to ask yourself is:

"How does Adam and Eve worship God before their rebellion?"

Because after God has done away with all rebels and restore Paradise as it was in the beginning mankind will return to the earliest form of worship not the ones introduced when men had become sinners (filthy)

preciousee17:
I actually agree with the person that says this your translation is twisted.

What is the goal of TRANSLATORS?

When Jesus walked the earth that's exactly the same thing all the Jewish rabbis said about him:
"He is twisting God's word" John 9:24
But then only Jesus was able to organize his disciples and make them do the work of God zealously, faithfully and industriously.
So if you think our translation is twisted then try to agree among yourselves not only when arguing {1Timothy 6:4} but get to work {James 2:18} and prove you people understand Jesus by doing the work he assigned to his disciples {Matthew 10:11-13} and start making disciples {Matthew 28:19} who are peace loving people as expected of Christ's followers! Luke 6:27-28 compare to Isaiah 2:4

That's what proves you people truly understood what you're reading not just arguing fruitlessly! Matthew 7:16-18

cococandy:
Are you a Jehovah’s Witness?

YES!

EnvyandHate:
Now it's not you're not a Hebrew so it's not your business. Edomites are right here in America the majority of Black Americans are Edomites and the same thing is happening again.

Obviously you know nothing about God you're just a racist the true God welcomes all people who are faithful not minding their nationality so try to format the racism in your head unless you're not worshiping the same God who nationalized Rahab and Ruth for their Faith!

If you're baptized in our midst but failed to marry one of Jehovah's Witnesses none of us will attend your wedding! 1Corinthians 7:39

cococandy:
Actions do in fact speak louder than words

This is God's will for mankind which will be fulfilled in the midst of worshipers during the last days:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4

That's what Jesus' counsel should achieve as the prince of peace {Isaiah 9:6} and just as you have rightly said:

"Action speaks louder than words"

God's people (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) are fulfilling the quoted scripture today!

Dtruthspeaker:
See jw twisting!

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the mad drug fed failure who is olosho mother rejected and threw in the dustbin. Your madness is obviously working. Useless universal failure. Gray haired at 30, died at at 30 and 2 months.

Please i'm not your type that's uncultured let the OP respond!

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Janosky:
This Emusan loves his MUMU exposure of his poor comprehension skills.

I tell you!

Someone said the father differs from the Son yet he wants to continue arguing blindly.

Ọmọ i don't have time for his nonsense!

EnvyandHate:
That's how the story is written centuries after. Jesus was betrayed despite because my ancestors were in a very precarious situation. The Edomites are the central issue as they are today in America. They do not want to humble themselves to Judah and they will side with any foe to prevent us from ascending the throne their betrayal keeps us both trapped. Once you understand this complexity that it is a competition
for the Edomites then you can see why Jesus proceeded with the Crucifixion.

Guy this your Edomite story is irrelevant now!

The obsolete English used in the translation of your copy of the scriptures is what you need to update.

" Knowest ye not that the Kingdom of Heaven is within thee?"

Today that verse will be rendered this way:

‘For look! the Kingdom of God is in your midst." Luke 17:21

Jesus is saying God's Kingdom is already in their gathering in a figurative sense since he who will teach them how to get there is right in their midst! Zechariah 9:9

cococandy:
It not about what I think. I know for a fact they are not being true Christians by upholding extremist beliefs.
Do non Christians know that?
As far as they know, we are one and the same.
And even some Christians who claim these people can’t be true Christians are in fact sympathetic to their cause.

My friend it's a loooong story but to cut the story short you need to know that the true God has separated His worshipers from among Satan's agents claiming Christians and He began calling His own worshipers by another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Isaiah 65:15

So let anyone who cares to know be aware that God's people have been separated from Satan's agents therefore we are beating our swords into plowshares and our spears into farming tools we no longer participate in wars neither do we support it anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4