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absolutesuccess, you are above that omo Ibo in every way. Please stay above him and not reply him.

Someone convinced him in his formative years that once he gets a degree he will become the king of internet. So at every opportunity he tries to test how far he can expand his domain. Unfortunately he picked the descendants of imperial warriors to test. We will teach him and re-educate him to the proper orientation of subordination.

Olu317:
redboneSmith, are you what you claimed? For posterity sake, I will appreciate if you are sincere with your information on Catherine Acholonu. Please be honest in your information always. Simply because of Israel's link or Genetic connection to Yoruba? It's not worth it.

Catherine Obianuju Acholonu (26 October 1951 – 18 March 2014) was a Nigerian writer, researcher and former lecturer on African Cultural and Gender Studies. She served as the former Senior Special Adviser (SSA) to President Olusegun Obasanjo on Arts and Culture, and foundation member of the Association of Nigerian Authors (ANA).



Cheers.

Becareful with Acholonu materials. Post the civil war a new awareness, an awakening dawned on the Ibo. What they failed to achieve in political warfare they wanted to erect in literary circle and academia. Yoruba art, culture, theater, rituals and pantheon was widely known to scholars. The only point of reference to Igbo was Achebe, Azikiwe and Biafra, nothing more. In culture old researchers documented them as forest people that practiced cannibalism and human rituals. no nobility, no dynasty or throne or kingdom. No known progenitor, no records of war or conquest. Most people around the world had never heard of a people called Ibo or igbo or Biafra. The war put them out there. So what Achebe and later Acholonu did was to start binding discussions on Igbo with Yoruba as reference. If they talk about Ibo arts they would throw in the Benin and Yoruba arts. if they talk about human sacrifice they will say it was common in the South amongst people like Yoruba and Benin. So the pattern grew to where you could not talk on Ibo arts and not mention Yoruba for comparison. They bonded Ibo to Yoruba...to the point that scholars thought whatever greatness Yoruba had, Ibo must have too. if you doubt me type a keyword into google search asking for Yoruba arts and antiquities. I guarantee you something about Igbo will be mentioned. These propaganda was made possible by many people, Acholonu being one of them.

The red cap igbo wear is Igala in origin. The traditional igbo hat is the knitted winter cap. The shift from the knitted to the red cap was brought about by a political necessity. If you review all pictures of Ibo politicians and leaders going back to the 60s and 50s, they wore the knitted. The way you could tell which Ibo is resident in Yorubaland and which is not is to look on their head to see which cap they wear. Azikiwe, Sir Louis Ojukwu, Okigbo, all wore Yoruba caps and Agbada when in native. The igbo mode of dressing was not acceptable in Lagos, you are seeing as an illiterate villager, an Okoro.

Red cap started when Ekwueme became VP. NPN was largely Hausa, Yoruba and Kanuri and wore their traditional caps. Igbo could not wear the knitted so the red cap as adopted and popularized by Ekeuwme and Chuba Okadigbo. During Obasanjo regime same thing. People like Soludo made it popular. Now you go to a gathering and every Igbo is wearing red cap...in fact they have taken ownership of it from Igala.

We don't like to talk about igbo too much but when it comes to race of superiority we can bring out facts that will expose everything back to its genesis.

Sharpshooota:
Look at this fool



Advising political party to rig... SMH

Thats not rigging. Some of you just serve as repeaters for jingoism. If APC redistrict the polling units to effect an advantage ahead of the election will you call it rigging?

I fear that the citizens of Osun are dangerously close to reversing advantages and gains of political alignment regionally over the past 8years, and nationally for almost the past 4yrs. They want to punish APC for not paying salary of civil servants in the state. While I empathize over the ill-treatment I empathize even more with the damages they are about to bring upon their state if they elect PDP into Government house. Osun is relatively a young state, just 27years. It was created on same date with states like Jigawa in NWZ, Adamawa in NEZ, Kogi in NCZ, Abia in SEZ, Edo in SS, and many others. In the 27years of its creation Osun has suffered development deficit. For a state in the Yoruba controlled SWZ, with the super advantages of economic and market integration, Osun should by now be far ahead of sister-states created on same day, but something is missing and Osun is struggling, marginally ahead of states like Abia, Adamawa or Taraba and Yobe. The value-chain of colocation and political advantages of industrial giants, financial and technological hubs in Lagos, Ogun and Oyo is a wasted dividend on Osun State. So how did this happen?

Here are the Pros and Cons:

Pros -
1 - Alignment
Osun is central to Yorubaland and a gateway between North, South, West, East of Yoruba Commonwealth. Shares border with Kwara, Ekiti, Ondo, Oyo, Ogun. Distance to Lagos about two and half hours, distance to Kogi same, or less. Business initiatives in Lagos and Ogun is capable of creating multiplier effects in Osun, greater in outcomes and far reaching due to the market synergy that exist in this alignment.

2 - Immune from security challenges
SWZ is the only region in the sovereignty with the least security risk. The region serves as abode of refuge for citizens escaping threats and hazards from other regions of the nation. This creates over abundance in ethnic diversity, manpower and skills resource.

3 - The Lagos model
Out of the six states of SWZ three are listed in top 10 centers of Excellence in Nigeria - Lagos, Ogun and Oyo. These three states were able to accomplish the feat because a new political order was idealized and executed in Lagos to bring the Party closer to Government to mirror a Corporate Boardroom principle called Business Continuity. Out of this is derived the theory of Best Practice. Business continuity is best practice for the political dividends of any state in Nigeria. To achieve the goals it is imperative that the political structure in the state stays constant and in harmony for a long term...long enough for the seeds to take root and germinate. Changing political party, disturbing the political structure, displacing the harmony, will all make it impossible to deliver best practice through the principles of business continuity, hence the reason why certain states are at bottom of performance. Osun is the newest state in SW and the only one that has suffered the most displacements in political structure. It is important to keep APC in place for continuity, than to change to PDP and loose gains of the past 8years. If you must change party, then put a mechanism in place that secures continuity so the incoming party does not deviate from the gains of past administration, but this is the most difficult guarantees to give.


Cons -
1 - Non payment of salary
Osun is at the top of violator list, but it is not the only state that has not paid salary. APC and PDP states are both guilty of not paying salary. So kicking out APC to bring in PDP is illogical and hard to concile with wisdom. if PDP is capable of paying salary, there should not be any PDP state owing salaries to workers.

2 - We will punish APC
APC controls the center and the legislature as well over 50% of state governments. Moreover, all the states that Osun share border with are in APC hand, and all Yoruba states of SW are in APC. How do you punish APC by bringing in PDP for Osun? You will end up doing damage to derived advantages due to your strategic location and market synergy. You will also repeat past pattern of changing party and destabilizing political progress in Osun. Instead of dynamically rising to compete with APC in Ogun, you will end up sparring with who is better between PDP Osun and PDP Abia. Is this what you want?

3 - An exit interview
I believe Ogbeni Aregbesola can be censored for the way he treated workers salary. This will be a way for the people of Osun to exact their pound of flesh on him. The people should protest and demand that Osun House of Assembly must sit and pass a Vote of No Confidence on Ogbeni and enter it into the House record no less than 24hrs before the scheduled rerun election take place. In concession, the people will return APC to State house. This is a win-win position. Business continuity can proceed to the benefit of the people of the state and the need to stabilize the politics of Osun for growth and development. At his exit, Ogbeni does not get away free, he will carry with him into future a political impeachment as evidence of a bad job.

4 - Polarization
There is too much political division and turf battles. Osun needs one or two political rallying points that integrate with other rallying points in the region to promote development and spread industries inland. The polarization on the other hand creates too many landlords competing for right of way but not breaking down barriers and artificial walls that block access for investments. Ooni is single-handedly doing in Osun what politicians should naturally have been championing as a policy.


Check out the list of the states and the month they are owing teachers below:

1: Osun State; 28 Months

2: Nasaraw State; 26 Months

3: Kogi State; 25 Months

4: Benue State; 12 Months

5: Ekiti State; 9 Months

6: Bayelsa State; 7 Months

7: Taraba State; 6 Months

8: Abia State; 5 Months

9: Kaduna State; 5 Months

10: Ondo State; 4 Months

11: Kwara State; 2 Months

12: Delta State; 2 Months

13: Oyo State; 1 Month



My dear brothers and sisters in Osun, here is my parting message to you.

A ki fi ara eni se oogun alokunna.
One does not use oneself as an ingredient in a medicine requiring that the ingredients be pulverized.
(Self-preservation is a compulsory project for all.)


A ki i fi ida pa igbin.
One does not use a sword to kill a snail.
(Remedies should be commensurate with the problem.)


You have had too much political switches in 27years and it has impacted growth. Sustain what you have and continue with APC. Do not repeat errors of past years.

The venom that should be taken on Ogbeni, do not put it on APC.

MrJanuzaj:
Good nice job. Many people are following you. I love the way this election went. Very tight so that politicians will start respecting electorates

Exactly! Issues matter. Look at Adeleke that has no political pedigree and did not even participate in debate but giving APC concern. People are paying attention and will wait for you at the polls to answer back.

Olril18:
zombies will have you believe we are dunce sucking tinubu's dik.
elections in southwest will always be a close affairs.

Election in SW does not trend the way you see it. Issues determine outcomes of elections in SW, not emotions. Issues differ for each state. We are seeing here a consequence for the issues that troubled people of Osun. It will be different for Ogun or Oyo or Lagos.

Thanks2God:
This election its a clear indication that PDP is very much on ground in southwest.

South west may not going to be a bloc vote for Buhari come 2019

Na lie! You cant use Osun as yardstick. Did you not see what happened in Ekiti, a PDP state, and how they were thrashed?

Olohunjedalo:
Someone is behind this . Lol
They’rre releasing pdp strongholds results to make it look like pdp won .
These Inec people sha.
EDE north and EDE south results already released where as Ilesa East and Osogbo votes have not been released
They’re not manipulating the results, but they’re manipulating people’s minds

They will all end up in jail. Isnt that why Ekiti radio and tv was shut down, for releasing unofficial and inaccurate results.

Stop counting LG wins and count votes.

Final result of what? This is not a poll tabulation thread. This thread is a congratulatory message.

Ade a pe l'Ori, Bata a pe l'ese Oba!
Igba yin a dun fun Ilu!
Kabiyesi O!

My dear brothers and sisters,
Congrats to everyone of you in the State of Osun for coming out to exercise civic responsibility and elect a person to govern you over the next four years. This congratulatory message goes to all Omoluabi. We are Yoruba first before anything else and our Omoluabi has no religion or party, it is simply a Oriki of Yoruba doctrine of righteousness. Our brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers, uncles and aunts, friends and neighbours in Osun exercised righteousness today. We rejoice with them and join with them to accept the outcome of the election. We must now face front for what is important in Yorubaland.

What does the APC victory in Osun mean for Yorubaland?

In 2011 ACN won every state in West except Ondo. The central government of President Jonathan in Abuja was sympathetic and supportive of Governor Mimiko in Ondo. ACN had been working to bring all states in West under one party, then use that bloc as a credit to gain political advantages in the center and manifest them as windfalls for the region. Then in 2014 ACN lost Ekiti to opposition. If we look at the victory pattern in West we see that since return to democracy in 1999 Yorubaland has not been able to come under one political roof until this victory in Osun on 22/09/2018. This is first time in the new civilian rule that we are all under one party in the SW zone. The only time we ever achieved this was in the previous civilian rule and under UPN. If we expand the bloc to cover all Yoruba Commonwealth we will see that we have made a breakthrough in Nigerian politics. We have accomplished in Nigeria a feat that no other ethnic group has ever achieved under a democratic government. Here is the breakthrough going from top down....

Kwara - APC
Kogi - APC
Ekiti - APC
Osun - APC
Ondo - APC
Oyo - APC
Ogun - APC
Lagos - APC


This breakthrough ought to be entered in records of political achievements in Nigeria.


Going back to SW, Yoruba has two programmes that we should all have on the tip of our tongues.

1 - Odua Investment -
http://www.oduainvestment.com.ng/

2 - DAWN -
http://dawncommission.org/



Likewise, in 2019, after we put Buhari back in office and he is settled in, we have a succeeding Presidency that should be in our hearts and brains. We are going to be proactive and work towards a Yoruba Presidency in 2023. We are not asking for it to be given to us....we have earned the credit to make the political victory successful for Yoruba Commonwealth.


To close, we must appreciate Alhaji Ahmed Bola Tinubu for his thoroughness, vision and patience to bring us this far. He didn't do it alone. We also thank all the Gorvernors in SW for their dilligence and unity. Their unity is the unity of our land!

Congrats to all Omoluabis, from Kwara to Kogi, down to the coast and all inbetween. To those in diaspora, we greet you well. A great future awaits us.

Ise ya o, Ise yaa...

sing it if you know it

Juliusmalema:
I wonder most of the times why my igbo brothers engrossed themselves too much in any election holding in southwest or north....and to me it is high time we stop them.

To clear the air, yorubas and hausas have a political cohesion and understanding that has existed between these two for ages and I don't see that breaking in the nearest future.....Is high time we igbos understand that our political white space and understanding is different from these two......you can't force your ideology on others.

Apc as a party can only lose election in southeast or south south but not in southwest or north and as a matter of fact argue it with sango, Apc will win Osun state.

I think it is time SE or SS pursue their own political space and ground themselves with party that protects their citizens interest and fight for there right.

Finally I repeat Southwest and north has a political leaning, understanding and union both economically and otherwise.....Apc will win anyday in any of these states( not minding other major factors I didn't state here)......

Se and Ss protect ur own territory....thats all.

Well written. If I may add, Osun is the billboard for 2019. What you saw today is how 2019 will result, in both presidential and legislative. I therefore urge SE to fall in line and begin to shout Sai Baba starting daybreak tomorrow. Serious! Buhari has ears but he is deaf...he will listen but do nothing to your cry of marginalization. You have to earn it. It begins at daybreak tomorrow....SAI BABA!

OlaoChi:
Every learned person knows that Yoruba and Igbo share a common origin
Accusing anybody who knows this fact to be igbo or mixed with igbo means you are insinuating yorubas are incapable of learning, you might have a learning disorder but not all yorubas reject facts

Where was their common origin?

Obalufon:
Yoruba are not bantu Bantu are forest people ..Some oral history source claim We came to our present abode due to great war from the east

Do you subscribe to that oral history? Give us the full account of this "EAST".

RedboneSmith:
For the umpteenth time, why do people on this forum tend to think being Bantu is a negative thing?

I've encountered people here throwing the word 'Bantu' at their perceived enemies as if it is supposed to be some kind of insult. I don't get that.

And secondly: Why do some of you keep saying 'Bantus are not related to y'all at all'? The Bantu migrations took off from West Africa. Bantu languages belong to the Niger-Congo phylum like many (if not most) West African languages. Prominent exceptions being Hausa (which is Afro-Asiatic) and Kanuri and Songhai (which are Nilo-Saharan). Which means that on some level, at some very distant time in the past, all of you on this post who are not Hausa or Kanuri or Songhai shared relationship with the ancestors of the Bantu peoples.

Focus on what science said. If we start saying Yoruba is not Bantu now you guys will say to prove it. Get with the scientific fact. This is the new mainstream of quest to unlock the past.

Now on people having negative attitude about Bantu, there is an unconscious impulse in the spirit of man to excel. The excellence is tied to survival and life. This impulse is exercised through discrimination between himself and others; he views competition as a threat to his right to life and survival. When the sense of discrimination kicks in it can be brutal....include maintaining a sense of superiority. It is all human, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with it.

Obalufon:
we are not fucking bantoid or bantu ...we are different.. i know bantu people

Are you aware, Obalufon, that the present Ibo tribe is a migrant from the Central African Zone? All the attributes by which you can make comparison, i.e physical features (particularly muscular density), language, worship, culture, cuisine, art, all these characteristics the Ibo and the Bantu and Pygymy all possess in common? Now im not surprised at all with what Olu put up there about the DNA strata which scientifically excludes Yoruba as a aboriginal stock. What linguists and historians refuse to accept, science will compel it as a universal truth.

Yoruba is AfroAsiatic.

May God bless and protect her!

Lagos - APC
Ogun - APC
Oyo - APC
Ondo - APC
Ekiti - APC
Osun - APC

....but they say Jagaban is no longer influential. Who else, excluding the Grand Baba, can or has ever done this?

Has Saraki visited FFK yet?

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Surveillance is a stealth move to observe or monitor a person for collection of information data to corroborate an accusation of wrongdoing.

First, there has to be an accusation or complaint
Second, the complaint must be lodged with a competent court (that is, one with jurisdictional power)
Third, the court must be convinced that the person is a safety and security risk, crime risk, or in case of wanted person, a flight risk
Fourth, the court issues an order of authority to a law enforcement agency permitting them to carry out the surveillance.

EFCC is jumping the gun here. Not only that, they are breaching citizens rights, and by acting the role of judiciary they violate constitutional statutes.

SIRmanjar:
Mid1960s ke?what was dere to restructure in the 60s when tinz were ok and evry one happy with the status quo?Indomie generation forming old.

Exactly! Yoruba was ahead of the political curve and had been pushing resturcturing back in the days of JS Tarka and the MiddleBelt Movement. I bet Nwosu did not know this?

deltaisgreat:
you lied. Nigeria was operating a regional system of government in the 60's before the civil war which is the bed rock of igbo's restructuring plan proposed by the igbo leaders in the 90's. You want to steal the glory

Regional government or not had nothing to do with restructuring. It depends on what regional government you are talking about. The one ibo put us in on Jan66 or the one before that?

Yoruba has been on this restructuring talk since Mid-60s. In fact a lot of traction has been gained as a result but when military regime do coups they waste the gains and we had to start afresh. A lot of hope put on Obasanjo as a civilian President to make things happen but he failed. Igbo is a new boy on the block when it comes to restructuring agenda.

ABUJA-Former Minister of Health, Professor ABC Nwosu has vehemently refuted the claims by an elder statesman, Alhaji Tanko Yakassai that uninformed Igbo were championing the cause of restructuring which he ( Yakassai) referred to as a Yoruba agenda.

Nwosu who is one of the Igbo leaders from south east said he was surprised to read a person in the mould of Yakassai make such a fallacious submission.

He said that Yakassai was utterly wrong in his assertion, saying that restructuring though firstly proposed by the Igbo people has now become a national agenda. Recall that the northern leader had on Monday opined that uninformed Igbo were championing the cause of restructuring referring it as a Yoruba agenda. But in his reaction to the development, Nwosu who spoke exclusively to Vanguard on Tuesday said that it was at the 1994 Abacha Conference that Igbo leaders comprising the former Vice President, late Dr. Alex Ekwueme, former Biafran leader, late Chukwueme Odimegwu Ojukwu, former governor of old Imo State, Dr. Sam Mbakwe and others made a presentation on the matter. According the Nwosu, the presentation also articulated rotational presidency, the 6 geopolitical zones, devolution of power and resource control as Igbo agenda to the conference. He said: Yakkasai is wrong, very wrong and I don’t know why she should utter such a fallacy. Everybody knows that the south west boycotted the 1994 Abacha conference. Every Nigerian knows. It was at that conference that the Igbo after a 6 months meeting of how Nigeria can be better produced a programme on restructuring, devolution of power, etc and sent its very best to the conference, namely late Dr. Alex Ekwueme, late Chief Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu, De Sam Mbakwe and others to that conference. “It was at that conference that the Igbo through a motion from Dr. Ekwueme proposed rotational presidency and the 6 geopolitical zones, devolution of power and resource control. They were all in the Igbo memorandum. The Igbo memorandum was adopted at Mkpoku Igbo conference in April and I was the chairman of that Mkpoku Igbo conference. I was also the secretary of the Pius Okeigbo committee that prepared that memorandum on restructuring, devolution of power and the 6 geopolitical zone. I was sent to Abuja to run the Igbo Secretariat to see to these. Prominent Igbo are still alive and can testify to it. Such persons include Gen Ike Nwachukwu, Commodore Ebitu Ukaiwe. They are many. “So, it is annoying to the extreme to read an elder statesman talk of uninformed Igbo championing a cause. Restructuring is now a Nigerian desire and the sooner everybody realised that, the better. “But having been so involved in the preparation, presentation of the memorandum to the conference, in the running of the Secretariat that produced the conference, I feel compelled to correct this information from Tanko Yakassai. He is so wrong, very wrong. “The Igbo restructuring agenda goes even to proposal arrangement for the Nigerian Army, not divisions. It goes into Police. It is all-encompassing. It is very strong on resource control and also supported the south south strongly in getting the resource control even the 10% that was given finally. So I don’t know why he should say that. We are neither championing a Youruba cause or the Yorubas championing our cause. “I thought we are all favorably disposed to restructuring a Nigerian that is not working and I don’t like people talking from the two sides of their mouth. “I don’t want to accuse him of ignorance. I am saying he didn’t say the truth. That’s all I am interested in and I have said what the truth is. The reports of the conference are there which I think he was a member of. It was whenever there was crisis, it was Senator Olusola Saraki that formed the group. Yar’Adua was there. “So, I don’t know why he should be saying that we are championing a cause which we, the entire Igbo ethnic group proposed after a 6 months preparatory meeting that included the very best of Igbo including Professor Ben Nwabueze. He still alive. “I don’t why he should say that the uninformed Igbo are championing a cause being proposed by the Yoruba. I don’t know why. Is restructuring a Yoruba agenda? It is a Nigerian agenda. Knowing him personally and having participated with him in a conference and being given copies of his book, I am completely perplexed that he said this. “Why does Yakkasai malign ndi Igbo by describing them as uninformed? Why does he abuse Ndigbo when they are the people most worried about their situation in Nigeria? Restructuring is a Nigerian desire.”


Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/restructuring-tanko-yakkasai-wrong-to-say-uniformed-igbo-re-championing-yourba-agenda-prof-abc-nwosu/

olasaad:
I don't understand

Who are the people in Kwara North that you said should take turn?

ItsMeAboki:
Quite on the contrary; that accolade seems to belong to you, because Tanko Yakassai was very clear in what he said and in equally making a clear distinction between them by drawing attention to the constitutional/practical dilemma of reverting back to the 1962 constitution.

His words:
“Some people are advocating we should adopt the 1962 Constitution. To the best of my knowledge, the 1962 Constitution recognised four regions. Now we have six geo-political regions. But they failed to explain which regions should be retained or merged.”

What are the four regions in 1962 constitution? I think he mixed the years up. Midwest was not formed before 1963.