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davidylan:
That's funny because your own beliefs about "God" is entirely based on faith.

I do not believe I know it is true. . . .All man made religions are false. . . .and all their claims are all lies. . .

Abuzola:
*blink thrice*
shin zaka yaudareni ne ?

Allahumma inna nas aluka fil laylatul Qadir. . . Ka che amin. . . .

davidylan:
Round about senseless argument.

You come here daily asking us to EXPLAIN . . . when we do you say we shld just stick to our faith and try not to explain. when we dont you say its because we have no explanation and are trying to dodge.

You cant reason with those who have chosen to remain perpetually blind.

Will you stop giving yourself credit you do not deserve at all? explain what exactly . What do you know that any body will ask you for explanation? Is your belief not entirely based on faith? What then is there to explain again when we know that faith says that you should accept things that you can not explain. . . .You can never reason with those that deliberately choose to delude themselves. . .

Abuzola:
@mazaje,
kai banban banzane, maimakon karinga yin abu kamar mai hankali, well is not your fault,

Yi hakuri maigida na. . .ya ya azumi. . .

Is it allowed to smoke weed during fasting? Am I allowed to break my fast with garri and koli koli?

noetic2:
well u claimed that they are more intelligent. . . . .or didnt u?

No I didn't . . .

i guess we are talking about two different things then.

Perhaps. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520583#msg4520583 date=1252610532]U will never see me writing such gibberish. . . . .How can i say Mohammed is a liar?
I believe in what i want to believe and i let others believe what they want to believe BUT only a complete slowpoke will discredit others.
If you think a stone is your GOD, by all means---worship it!!! But don't tell me my God is FRAUD while worshipping your stone.[/quote]So sorry. . .You are one of the good ones that believes in live and let live. . . . nice. . .I thought you were one of the fundamentalist out here. . . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520546#msg4520546 date=1252610251]The co-equal and distinct persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not three Gods because they share the same essence in complete unity.

For example, the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are three distinct persons and beings.
They do not share the same essence or being or divine attributes.
However, the doctrine of the Trinity says that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit share the same being or essence, and this is where the human example of the three patriarchs and the divine nature must part company. So the human analogy fails to describe the Trinity and would in fact confuse this doctrine if we took the example seriously.[/quote]Is Jesus the same as God? I mean the same person. . . .

WildOne:
I'm sure that terrorist manual called Quoran has passages backing all these perverted behaviours up. Trust Abuzola to dig them up as soon as he comes back from visiting his favorite LovePeddler at the red light district.

He is locked up in the mosque banging his head on the floor wishing death and destruction on America and Israel. . .

noetic2:
I dont see the relevance of your assumptions.
but if intelligent exists somewhere. . .should they not be the first to discover us?

Is this what you believe or is that how it should be neotic?

noetic2:
what planet EXACTLY?

. Are you drinking beer neotic what kind of question is this. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520466#msg4520466 date=1252609667]Faith and common sense, bro!!![/quote]Faith and common sense again eh? Is this not an oxymoron? How can you put faith and common sense in the same sentence?

U can never understand. . . . . . .
As a mortal. . . . . .U are looking at it as 1 + 1 + 1 = SHOULD NOT BE 3.
But i am here telling you 1 X 1 X 1 = 1.  Infinity + Infinity + Infinity = INFINITY.

It is better for you to tell people that they can never understand instead of applying basic mathematics that explains nothing at all. . . .You accept these things based on faith and it is better you leave it that way. . . Jesus is god and mohammed is a liar. . . .Yahweh be praised. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520313#msg4520313 date=1252608612]Tsk Tsk!!!

God exists in three persons who share the same essence or being.
What this means is that God exists in the distinct and co-equal persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but they share a fully divine essence or being, such as uncreatedness, eternality, simplicity (non-composite or indivisible), immutability (unchangeableness), omniscience (all wise and knowing), omnipotence (all powerful), goodness, mercy, holiness, will and freedom, and so on.

Thus, in God, the attributes of his essence are fully shared by three persons, making each person fully God.

Yet, the three persons are distinct. The Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit; the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son.

But, to repeat, the three persons share the same essence. That is, the Father and Son and Holy Spirit duplicate the same attributes. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are equally wise and merciful and holy; one is not more wise or merciful or holy than the other. Augustine says: "These three have the same eternal nature, the same unchangeableness, the same majesty, the same power".[/quote]Don't let Oladegbuu hear you ohh. . . how dare you say that his Jesus is distinct from god? The bible according to him tells him that jesus and that concept is shared by millions of other christians, others say that jesus is equal to god but not the same person as god. . .so which is it really? is jesus the same person as god or is he different from god. . .This trinity wahala sef. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520369#msg4520369 date=1252608999]This God is Allah.
Sango, Buddha and Oya are small gods.
People who worship these gods still acknowledge Olodumare in Yorubaland.
Go and watch Sango before spewing heresy here.[/quote]So this god that exist as 3 distinct persons is the same as allah of the koran eh? I laugh in chinese. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4520313#msg4520313 date=1252608612]Tsk Tsk!!!

God exists in three persons who share the same essence or being.
What this means is that God exists in the distinct and co-equal persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but they share a fully divine essence or being, such as uncreatedness, eternality, simplicity (non-composite or indivisible), immutability (unchangeableness), omniscience (all wise and knowing), omnipotence (all powerful), goodness, mercy, holiness, will and freedom, and so on.

Thus, in God, the attributes of his essence are fully shared by three persons, making each person fully God.

Yet, the three persons are distinct. The Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit; the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son.

But, to repeat, the three persons share the same essence. That is, the Father and Son and Holy Spirit duplicate the same attributes. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are equally wise and merciful and holy; one is not more wise or merciful or holy than the other. Augustine says: "These three have the same eternal nature, the same unchangeableness, the same majesty, the same power".[/quote]What is all this dogma . Is this the same god that is 3 in one that you are equating to allah, buddah, and sango?

Deep Sight:
Are you asserting that other than the Semitic people, no other race ever conceived of a CREATOR?

Who then is Brahman in the Hindu tradition.

What about the Yoruba Creation Myth.

Just because they have other gods doesn't mean they dont have an idea of the CREATOR.

Damn it even catholics are accused of worshipping saints, mary etc. Does that mean they dont know the CREATOR?

Mazaje, clean up your arguments, they are fast spiralling out of the realms of basic logic and basic knowledge

What is wrong with this deist . Stop putting words into my mouth. . .I know that as a deist you are only interested in the concept of a creator. I never said that people do not believe in the concept of a creator all I said was that all the various cultures have different concept of gods and all of them are mutually exclusive from each other. . . the creator god allah of islam is not the same god as the cator god yahweh of the OT. . .Chineke is not the same god as sango. . . they are all mutually exclusive entities that are NOT the same. . . .

noetic2:
is this based on the assumptions that they are humans?

Humans exist here so what stops humans from existing in other parts of the planet? There are trillions of stars that are just like ours with planets orbiting countless stars. . . .

noetic2:
you are yet to establish how EXACTLY the existence of a different intelligent life discredits the christian belief. . . . and

If intelligent life is found in other parts of the universe it will completely shatter all man made religions and their various lies. . . .Christianity talks very little about the universe, the bible only talks about god creating the stars and thats all in other places it talks about the stars falling into the earth if as the stars are some little bulbs hanging out there in the sky. . .The writers of the bible do not know that the stars are just like our sun and also have planets orbiting around them. . . The stars are of no use to them because the bible talks says that the stars are made so that people will use them for signs . The writers of the bible have no idea about the galaxies that exist, the comets etc. . .They have no idea about the universe at all. . . to them ONLY the earth matters, the earth is the center of the universe and everything revolves around it that is why their god had to come to some parts of the earth and dwell with its inhabitants. . . They don't know that the earth is insignificant. . take the earth away and the universe will remain the same. . . .

The illiterates that wrote the koran say that meteorites are allah's spears against the jins who go up to Aljanah to eavesdrop   .

The day intelligent life will be discovered in another part of the universe that day all the religious fundamentalist will go on rampage some will even lay down their lives just so that they ca destroy the evidence. . . .

noetic2:
all of these remain assumptions. . . .unless and until there are substantial evidences. . . these innuendos should be discarded.

We know from our own existence that the universe is very conducive for life. . . There are trillions of solar systems that are just like ours in our own galaxy with planets revolving around stars like ours. Life building blocks have been found on some comets so there is that possibility. . .But you will rather discard it because it will never want it to be true because it will shatter everything you thought was true. . .The fact remains that we know very little about the universe to make up any conclusion or discard anything about it. . .the universe might be part o something bigger we just don't know. . .the Hubble space telescope just sent some very interesting pictures go have a look at them

have u ever wondered why evolution remains an assumption even after 150 years?

Some people believe it to be a fact just as you believe in creationism to be a fact. . .

Deep Sight:
Mazaje, of all the things you have said this is the most incredible.

So once an idea (in this case God) is expressed in a different language, it becomes something else.

So if i say "El Presidente", i am not referring to "the president".

Careful now. . . dont let the knights begin to doubt your clarity of mind or intelligence. . .[color=#990000][/color]

What is incredible there? It is a fact. . .yahweh is not the same as allah. . . they are two very different entities that are mutually exclusive in every aspect. . .Africans have a very different concept of god and invented various gods to explain away things to them. . . there are gods of thunder and lightening. . .gods of harvest, conception, gods of the evil forest that ensure discipline, gods for wealth and prosperity etc. . .some ever worship their ancestors. . . monotheism is not really an african concept. . . africans believe in a pantheon of gods. . .when the europeans came they had to incoporate the strongest gods the people were worshiping and apply/integrate the Jehovah concept to it. . .Chineka means something very very different from allah or jehovah. . .read more about chnike here  and see how the concept differs widely from the other forms of the abrahimic concept of god. . .

noetic2:
is there any evidence that suggests that intelligence life exists outside this planet?

Astronomers all say that they do not know but some say that they believe that there is intelligent life out there. . .there are gazillions of stars out there and astronomers know very little about the universe. . there might be other universes out there(Multiverse) No body knows. . .Life building blocks have been found on comets according to astronomers and if that is true then it suggest that there might be some kind of life in other parts of the universe. . .We kno very very very little about the universe to know if there is life else where. . . I know the thoughts of life else where is the last thing religious fundamentalist will like to hear because it will expose and shatter all the lies they have been holding unto. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4519817#msg4519817 date=1252605216]Don't mind the stark illiterates.

I can understand when some group of people choose NOT to worship God(it's their prerogative). . . . . .but to open one's mouth and say GOD does not exist at all is not only moronic. . . . .it is fatuous.[/quote]You were asked a simple question to tell us which of the gods exist and you claim that all the gods are the same and therefore they all exist. . . I laugh in spanish. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4519674#msg4519674 date=1252604149]Jesus Wept!!![/quote]And the holy spirit masturbated. . . .

There's only one GOD.
People of different faiths call him what they wish to call him.
Allah=Chineke=Osanobua=GOD.

This is completely false. . . .You do not even know what you are talking about. . . .Allah is not the same god as jesus/jehova/yahweh. . . Osanobua is not the same as jesus/jehovah. . . chineke is not the same as allah neither is sango the same as yahweh or allah. . . .  

Where is your IQ?

My IQ is there beside you. . .

I can help you answer it since Abuzola is not here. . . .

Deep Sight:
Abuzola -
Can you clarify the following for me:

   1. Is it right to have sex with children?

The koran has no specific age for married at all. . . the beloved prophet and messenger of allah married a 9 year old girl and consummated the marriage when she was 11 or there about. . .

 

2. Is it right to take your son's wife as your wife?

It depends. . . You are only allowed to do that If you have divine revelation from allah like the beloved messenger of allah had. . .

 

3. Is it right to marry a woman you love, and thereafter marry three more?

Yes. . . women are deficient and intellectually less than men. . .so yes you can marry 3 more wives to the one you already have. . .the beloved messenger of allah married more than 3 women. . . 

Just seeking clarifications, no stress intended please.

Thanks.

I you are seeking more clarification then go get a copy of the greatest book on earth which is the Al Koran. . .There you will read about allah's revelation to all man kind. . . . There is No god but ALLAH and Mohammad(AS) is his last prophet. . .Believe this or rot in hell forever when you die. . .

olabowale:
mazaje read surah Taha and see the full text of what Allah says to him and what Moses told Fir'awn when he approached him. Moses did not say to him let my people go, he was talking to him about receiving guidiance and if he had, the story would have been different today.

Moses DOES NOT KNOW Fir'awn olabowale, That is a lie that mohammed an his cohorts plagiarized from the jewish torah. . . .The moses in the koran is a fictional character that came out of the head of mohammed and the other writers of the koran. . . It is a LIE. . . .

Muhammad (AS) did not have to "plagiarize" and there is need to qualify what did not happen with shamelessness. Allah is Knower and afterall, He sent Moses and sent Muhammad (AS), difference is timeline, and I can show that Jews made salah, and the christians made salah too, using Jew and Christian in a loose term, but the primary followers of the two prophets, Moses and Jesus (AS) were neither but Muslims.

Allah DID NOT send Moses. . . Mohammed Lied simple. . .

KunleOshob:
You would be shocked how much the bible as to do with UFOs, if you have time just browse through this site http://www.bibleufo.com/ and you would be amazed what you find their.

When will you people stop lying to yourselves? What does the bible say about UFOs? We now have people telling us how the the bible got evolution right and explained it in details, we also have people telling us that the bible god created the big bang etc When will you people stop lying to yourselves and trying to make everything fit into that book by force? You guys are not helping your case. . . if intelligent life is found else where in the universe I know a lot of christians will start talking about how the bible also said that jesus died for their sins and salvation too. . . . Pathetic people. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=320966.msg4519455#msg4519455 date=1252602208]So some set of people still cannot believe God exists?
Do u guys say this out of sheer stupidity or you say it to cop attention? [/quote]All we are saying is that all the gods of man made religions/myths do not exist because they were created by men simple. . if you have any empirical evidence to show that your god is better than allah then bring it on for us to see. . .

noetic2:
all u have done is to attempt to rationalize the inactions of the israelites to support your world view that God does not exist. . . . .that has been unsuccessful.
were they segregated on the basis of race? they were segregated on the basis of idolatry.

I am only pointing out to the myths they have written about their god, you were not there when they wrote about the exodus, and all the other things they wrote about their god but you still believe it. . . what makes their myths better than our own traditional african religious myths? Is it because you were born into a culture that accepts the Jewish myth as the "truth"? Your claims are typical of those made by Christians all the time which displays a very poor grasp of critical thinking(No insult meant at all). If someone else used your standard of reasoning to justify a different supernatural/fringe belief and many do here like the muslims you are always battling against you'd see through their poor reasoning very easily. But once you are stuck in the Christian box, it's so full of cognitive defense mechanisms you can't see out of it.

u find it hard to imagine that the children of israel would be ungrateful after all the miracles they received. . . . but u fail to compare them to today's christians. . . .who backslide into sin. . . even after all that the Lord has done for us. its as simple as that

I haven't seen the lord doing anything for any body. . . all I see is people doing everything for themselves. . .there is NO evidence to show that there is any god doing anything for christians better than others. . .There is nothing that has happened to you either good or bad that has not happened to other countless non christians. . . that you choose to ascribe everything that happens to you to your god does not mean it is true and it doesn't  mean that your god exist out side the pages of the bible and your imaginations. . . .NO evidence to show that there is a god that does things for christians more than non christians all people suffer the same fate in this world. . . .  

i think u need to question the basis of your premise.

a. why cant God get angry? why cant He love or hate? why cant God feel emotions? does any of these emotions contradict His ontology? how?

I have told you what the bible says about the god it talks about. . . it talks about this god as an entity that knows all things, all powerful, even knows the future and how it will play out according to his plan. . . .I find it very absurd that an entity that plans everything according to his will and plan suddenly turns around shouting blue murder and displaying violent emotions when things go wrong even when he was the person that was said to plan it and make it happen that way. . .Jesus told people to always have faith in god but when his own time came to demonstrate his own faith in god he cried and accused god of forsaken him even when the bible says that the entire event was already planned. . . . That is one way of looking at it. . . . . Here is a bible verse for you

Psa 21:8 Your hand will find out all your enemies; Your right hand will find out those who hate you.
Psa 21:9 You will make them as a fiery oven in the time of your anger; The LORD will swallow them up in His wrath, And fire will devour them.
Psa 21:10 Their offspring You will destroy from the earth, And their descendants from among the sons of men.
Psa 21:11 Though they plan evil against You and devised a plot, They will not succeed.
Psa 21:12 For You will make them turn their back; You will aim with Your bowstrings at their faces.
Psa 21:13 Be exalted, O LORD, in Your strength; We will sing and praise Your power.  

This verse shows that some of the ancient Jews thought that their god was just a stronger version of them. . . they believe that people can plot or devise evil against him or try to harm him. . . . .

b. is there a predefined concept of perfection God must fit into? if so. . .can u share this definition of perfection?

You are shifting the goal post so that your god moves more and more into the area of the unknown. . .Again a perfect and all powerful god lacks nothing and there is nothing that he can not fix. . .A god that possesses all this attributes and still goes around worrying about women that menstruate or men that defaecate in military camps or engaging the people that he allegely created and have absolute power over in battles is completely impossible. . . .why should a god as described in the bible engage people in battles? .  

I agree that some christians are ignorant of certain things. but I never implied that satan does not exist or does not have his dirty works. . . I only believe that satan is highly exaggerated. . . .his abilities are severely and falsely over  emphasised . . .but he does exist.

Do you also have 1 billion evidence to show that satan exist neotic? . Satan exist only in the imaginations of people that believe in the myth simple. . .

1. I have given u NATURE as my first evidence. . .you are yet to tell me why my evidence cannot stand.

2. we are debating God because of the liberty and differences of our individual and collective reasoning. . . . .just like we debate UFO's

That is not an evidence. . You are only begging the question. . .Nature is evidence for nature not for any god. . .moslems also use nature as evidence for allah too, you are yet to prove to the that your god not allah is reponsible for nature. . .any body can make wild claims. . . i can attribute nature to the invisible goat that lives at the top of the sun. . . you can't prove me wrong can you. . .

Deep Sight:
@ Poster -

Many years ago people thought the earth was flat. They argued about it.

Many years ago people thought the universe revolved around the earth. They argued about it.

In summary: the fact that ignorant people quibble about something does not discredit the truth.

With appropriate individual or societal advances in knowledge, understanding will ultimately come.

By the way, its incredibly stupid to look at the very palm of your own hand, and fail to see intricate and thoughtful intelligent design therein.

Aside from all the logic in the world (and there is alot to show), your failure to recognise the existence of an uncaused cause, shows, not only a lack of intelligence, but more crucially, dead perceptive instincts, and a moribund intuition.

Can you show us where your own god resides so that we can go and meet him. . . .

alimat 2:
@Alh Olabowale its little u can say if they will accept they would and if not they wont, moses said more of this to pharaoh but his heart was hardend.
jazakallahu kairan

Moses did not say that to any pharaoh. . . mohammed shamelessly plagiarized the story from the jewish torah. . .Is there anything in islam that is original?

noetic2:
what led the people to idolatory? u need to analyse this to get the larger picture. tow things led to idolatory

1. the need for a supreme being. the children of israel made a calf image to themselves when they did not see moses again. it is a known fact that the generation that left Egypt did not know God. . .they were idolators who moses convinced through the works/miracles of his rod.
so as soon as moses was on mount sinai and was not down for a long time. . . . the need for a supreme being made them create a calf. . . . not all of them however worshipped the calf. remember moses told them to choose between the calf and God. . . . .majority chose God.

2. they worshipped the idols their foreign wives served . , . . . .that was why God asked them not to marry from a foreign nation.
what would u not do for a woman u are in lust with? that was what also happened to solomon.
thats what is also happening to today's chriatians. . . . . .money, women and worldly lusts leading them astray from God regardless of all the miracles they have received in time past.

I find the entire tale absurd because it is not written in the bible that golden calf they worshiped helped them in any way. . . yahweh on the other hand sent manna from heaven for them. . .divided the red sea for them, healed them from their diseases etc. . . .We will always disagree with all these things because I do not believe any of them ever happened. . .there was no exodus from egypt, no parting of the red sea no conquest etc. . all these myths are part of the jewish culture. . . .its funny that you guys completely disregard african myths like the story of sango but quickly hold unto the jewish myths. . . .

As for the warning against marrying women from other tribes or race all all I can say is that it is a well known fact that people will go to any extent to encourage racism and segregation even when it means invoking their god. . . I just hope you read mad max's post. . . . .

Over the past couple of weeks . . . I have been reading the entire bible. And I have come across this emotions u mentioned in the new testament.
my deduction has been that
1. when u obey God' laws and commandments u are safe in his hands in all that u do. . .David is a classic example.

2. For all those who saw the wrath of God in the bible. . .they were all forewarned that they should keep the commandments of God.

3. God did not get angry in a day. . , it took time.

This is not true. . . there are so many places in the bible where the bible god got angry instantaneously. . .Let me repeat humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent god, however can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect god lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect god who experiences emotion is impossible.

4. satan's abilities are highly over rated and exaggerated.

Yet you guys spend whole night casting and binding this imaginary non existent entity . This satan myth is really ridiculous I must say. . . .Satan does not exist outside the various religious text and the imaginations of people that buy into the myth. . .

u claimed that God does not exist. . . . . you are yet to prove it.
I claimed that God exist. . . . I have also given u a BILLION evidences that suggest so (Nature). . . . .you are yet to refute my evidences . . .neither have u proven your claim.

Its not a claim but a Fact. . . .You have never given me any evidence at all. . . I find it funny that you guys point to evidence to suggest that your god exist. . if your god truly exist we will not be talking about evidence. . . we don't talk about evidence suggesting that the sun, planets or the star exist do we? I claim your god exist and i ask you to show me where he is and all you can come up with is evidence which suggest he exist? . Neotic my man you can do better than that. . . .

noetic2:
why dont u give a direct instance.
From what I gather. . . it is very human to backslide even after a season of receiving miracles. . . . .disbelieve/faithlessness is a human tendency as seen even in today's group of believers. On a lighter note. . . the stories u read that make u disbelieve in the existence of God, has been read by others and they are strengthened by it in their belief in God. . .what does that tell u?

I find this story completely absurd. . . People hear the voice of the OT god or see him sometimes according to the bible yet quickly turn to worship Idols that have no voice at all. . . .the every day believers do not claim to see god or hear him address them through public speech they just have faith that he is there even though they have never seen him or heard his voice echo like a loud speaker. . . .I don't think that there is any blind person or amputee out there who after regaining his sight or having his amputated limbs grow back through prayers in the name of jesus will tun around and begin to worship wooden Idols. . .as for others reading and believing all I have o say is that religions are all like that you have to condition your self and assume that the stories being told are true even if they are not true at all. . . .

Any examples?

In the book of Amos the OT god says that he is responsible for all evils that happen meaning that there is no evil that takes place with out his knowledge and approval. . . yet in other parts of the bible like in Ezekiel he punishes the Israelite for disobeying him showing anger and promising to kill their unborn children that are in their mothers wombs

Amo 3:6  Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

He even gets angry with solomon in the book of kings. . . gets angry with the Jews in most parts of the OT for disobeying him or breaking his commandments. . . . . gets jealous if they worship other gods etc. . . its all over the bible. . . .

u made the insidious claim that God does not exist. . .so the onus and burden of proof is on u to prove your statement. . . . . .so what is the evidence to back up your assertion?

Its not a claim but a fact. . .You claim god exist and i say he does not, you then said that i should prove that he does not exist and I ask you to show me where he is simple. . . . .unless if you mean he exist on the pages of the bible, koran, hindu text and other religious scripture then fine. . . .No god exist outside the various religious scriptures and the minds and imaginations of people that already believe. . . .

noetic2:
Allah is a complete fraud and plagiarist. Allah has been repeatedly caught describing himself in a plural form using WE. . .  , that must be a legion of demons.

. . . . .

noetic2:
@ olabs

a. did Jesus ever commit a sin?

If Hippocracy is a sin then jesus commited a sin. . . he admonished people never to call each other fools because they are in danger of hell fire but called people around him fools so many times. . . .Jesus also taught that people should not be afraid of those that kill the body yet according to the bible he was always running for his life and sinking in the shadows when people tried to kill him. . . .

Jesus claimed he loved his neighbors yet he called the gentiles dogs and warned his disciples not to go near their towns and teach them the gospels or warn them about the kingdom o god that was at hand. . . . Jesus lied at his hearing when he said that he had always taught in the synagogues and in the temple and has never spoken in secret, there are other bible verses where he teaches in other places other the temple and teaches in secret. . . .

Jesus told people to have faith in god all the time but when his time came to demonstrate his faith in god(himself) when he was crucified on the cross he cried and accused god(himself) of forsaken him. . . If jesus knew he was the son of god then he would have shown more faith in his father(or himself) instead of crying and accusing god o forsaken him. . . Jesus scorned hypocrisy (Matthew 23:13-33) and was called the only sinless and perfect man yet an objective review of the life of Jesus as presented by the bible shows Jesus to be nothing less than a hypocrite himself.