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bettes:
I know there's only one God and He created all things,the earth and all that is in it,i have had too many personal experiences not to believe,i have too many answererd prayers to be called  a coincidence.

So do most of the 1 billion hindus and over 1.4 billion moslems in the world.

busybein:
whatever u say or type,u have ur hands and mouth

oya answer my qstion bout ur wife

my wife can believe in what ever she wants to believe in as long as she doesnt try to shove it down my throat. . . . my children can believe in what ever they want to believe in too. . . . .i am the only atheist in my family and i loved them all to death and will do anythng i can for them. . . . .

busybein:
i ask again,can u see their hearts?

ok only zues can see their hearts and i am not zues. . . . . .

duduspace:
I do love that your signature which states that pretending to know what you know nothing about is the life blood of religion, it is also the cause of all the chaos caused by religion in this world whether it is the catholic inquisition of the olden days, the Salem witch trials or even latter day terrorism.

I beleive in God and in particular that of the bible but I cannot prove that he exists nor can I tell someone who beleives in Allah that he has gotten it wrong because we don't have the same background or growing up experiences who knows if our origins are interchanged I could perhaps have been brought up in a moslem family and be worshipping Allah right now.

Religion is fine and dandy to the extent that it allows you to live in peace with yourself and your fellow man, anything beyond that is pretending to know what you know nothing about. There are some questions that will remain with us for eternity and are not worth getting bloody knucles over.

Nice, i appreciate your sincererity. . . . .

busybein:
too personal to go into it,thats why i made it brief

and i ask u one qstion?R U IN THEIR HEARTS?can u see their hearts or the hearts they use in calling upon GOD?

sir still waiting for that answer

i can see their tears and sincerity. . . .you guys always have some form of excuse to keep you swimming in your delusion. confronted with the embarassing fact that so many people that call unto your god are left out in the cold, you guys come up with excuses like people not praying sincerely or not having enough faith or not giving enough offerings or tithe. . .

busybein:
and u still havent told me why u blive allah is one true god?wtout trying other gods and GOD

sir we r going back to square one,i said try out the GOD OF THE BIBLE first,an encounter with him will convince u,infact HIS POWER is awesome, can't talk bout it,because its more than me,SO try it out yourself,experience sir,is d best teacher of history

There is no need trying out the biblical god because allah has told me that he is better than him and has giving me every reason to believe so. . . can you explain how awesome his power is? what can he do that allah can not? can you name any? i bet allah has a better heaven that that of the biblical god. . .

bettes:
@busybein: i agree with you that the reasons atheist are not or they think they are not attacked is because 'The Devil's kingdom cannot be divided against itself'.

Once satan exist then witches exists,read Kenneth Hagin's book and you will see that the demons that exist in america seem worse than the ones in africa.
Or what do you call people that are said to have multiple personalities,or a person that just wakes up and goes to school and starts shooting his classmates with little or no reason?
These people are possessed.

why then are moslems attacked? they do not believe in the biblical devil and demons why then are they attacked? i thought christains believe that the prophet mohammed is some kind of demon that came to decieve people from god. why are his followers attacked by demons? what have demons got to gain by attacking their friends?

busybein:
d last time i checked ,i asked u qstion and u said u will answer him,I'm still waiting

call upon him with faith in ur heart,alot of people call upon him but wtout faith,alot of people call upon him whilst serving other "gods"

u can't serve to masters at d same time,if u want God to work for u call upon him alone with faith and blive He's done it already

what is this? is this an excuse or what? i know uncountable people that call unto him in all seriousness and sincerity and are left out in the cold. there are uncountable people in the war torn democratic republic of congo that are presently calling unto him with serious faith and devotion but he refuses to hear them and act on their behalf rather he allows the rebels to cut off their body parts and kill them off. . . .why is he leaving them out in the cold despite all their cries and call for help and protection? i thought he was almighty who knows all and can do all things?

busybein:
u can't conclude wt only one proof,even scientists don't jump into conclusions like that ,try my God in d bible,and see if u wont see d wonders of d unchangeable changer

you still have'nt told me why your biblical god is better than allah. . . i have had an encouter with allah just like the over 1.4 billion moslems in the world and he has told us that he is the only true god and has shown that to us with signs and wonders too. why is he wrong? i want you to tell me.

busybein:
because he saved me alot of times,but one day,even when doctors lost hope,he was always there for me,even when my family lost hope he was stil there for me,waiting for me to call upon him,and i did,that was d very first day i had an encounter with him,and that was d day i started getting my life back

what about the millions of people that are presently calling on him in the the war torn demoractic republic of congo? why has'nt he come to their rescue? why is he leaving them to die in the cold despite their cries and prayers?

i have already had an encounter with allah and he told me that he is a better god than the biblical god. why is allah wrong?

busybein:
and i said there is only GOD,the God of d bible,so blive watever u want to believe

you should have told me that belief is all you have. . . .

busybein:
THere is only one true God and that is d only God i know,the God of d bible

and i say that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his last prophet. why am i wrong and you right?

busybein:
ok,atleast u r amongst the 1% that did not discover this at d age of 13 abi 14

what will happen if (that is if u r still single)u end up wt someone that believes in d GOD of d bible?will u grant her d freedm of worship


its not a must to answer,if u don't want to,i can understand

sure i will. . . .

busybein:
i know of only one GOD sir mazaje,and that is the GOD OF THE BIBLE

Its good you pointed out the fact that you know of only one god but that doesnt mean that he is the only god, there are a lot of other gods out there. by the way what makes the god of the bible better than allah?

busybein:
mazaje at what age did u start doubting d existence of God?13/14 like ur fellow atheists?

i became an atheist when i was an adult, at what age did you start to get brianwashed by religious dogma? i guess since when you were a baby. . . .

busybein:
my brother wetin u wan make i talk naaa

but how will d devil attack his own people? if he attacks them who will work for him?

he'd rather attack d people trying to walk right in d path wt God


infact moderators should lock this thread,because ive answered it already

which of the devils? the christain or moslem devil? the poster clearly pointed out that he witnessed an aljani attack on a moslem girl and some christain demonic attack on some christains too. are moslems walking in the right path with the christain god? why are they also under the so called demonic attack? what has the devil got to prove to moslems? how are atheist the people of the devil and how are they working for him?

i became an atheist when i went to thailand and discovered that there were so many people that did not understand what i was talking about when i mentioned the name jesus and christainity. i was shocked, i came to england and meet a friend who had lived in china and during the course of our discussion about china and the region as a whole he told me that there are hundreds of millions of chinese, mongolians, burmese and north koreans who he believes have never heard the word jesus, mohammed, islam, christainity and judaism in their lives and many of them have died without ever hearing or knowing about the western and arabic faiths(jesus and mohammed). . . . i was born into a muslim home but had to become a christain when my mum divorced my late father and married a christain man. . . . i have had so many experiences with islam and christainity and the bottom line is that they are both a farce. . . .

busybein:
@topic

how can witches,wizards,and demons attack their own people?its not possible

theyd prefer attacking Gods own people to also drag them into their kingdoms

this is delusion at its best. . . .

Abiodun92:
I live in Finland, i was born here, and i have lived among these people for all my life. Finland is an European high-tech country(Nokia), and most of the people are Lutheran christians(83%). Finnish people who label themselves as christians, are mostly non-believers, even if they take part in the church events. They are mostly atheists, and some of them openly say that God is dead. Why don't they suffer any attacks from evil spirits, or Demons? THEY DO SUFFER, BUT THEY DON'T SEE IT! Many people here in finland have some sort of a Depression. They don't really know why they are so depressed and want to kill themselves, so they try to shake off the depression by taking drugs(Anti-Depressants, Amphetamine, Alcohol etc.) Taking those drugs will only make them addicted to em', and in that way they are exposed to even more of a different mental illnesses, like Schizophrenia. Then some people may find themselves living rest of their lives in a mental hospital.

Atheists do suffer too, i've seen it happening. So it's not only Christians or Moslems who suffer from Demonic influences.  

I live in finland too and we can both agree that most of the people here are atheist, but the fact that people living here have some form of depression can NEVER be attributed to demons, witches and wizrads, there might be some causes like stress from work, family or friends which could be attributed to their depression but not demons and other imaginary beings. have you ever meet a finnish person who is an atheist who tells you that he/she has ever had any encounter with a demon or an aljani? i have meet a nigerian man who once told me that he had an encounter with an aljani he said the aljani told him that he has been alive since the time of the prohet mohammed its all in the mind, christains too have their own storis to tell, the bottom line is this. . . why is it that most religions have demons that afflict them and respond to their religious prayers alone? the poster said that the hausa lady responded to the recitaion of the quran. . . . christains have stories of demonds respondng to christains prayers, as i mentoined earlier there are vidoes of hindu and vodoo demonds responding to vodoo and hindu prayers and incantaions of the website of national geographic. . . . .its all in the mind. . .

It was really a great show very educating and informative too, i really enjoyed it. . .

congoshine:
Can you see oxygen? Whats d proof you're actually taking in oxygen?

This is an unintelligent question. . . . . .

The question should be why do muslim witches and demons attack only muslims and respond to only muslim prayers and incantations while christain demons attack only christains and also respond to christain prayers only. . . there are so many vidoes of hindu and vodoo witches and evil spirits respondng to hindu and vodoo prayers and incantations on the web site of national georgraphic. . . . .

lagerwhenindoubt:
Hmmmm, I would not have believed this if it were not coming from my fellow Afrikan brothers/sisters.

Like it or not Believe it or not, there are other realms of existence just as there is a reality that we see and feel as humans.

Unless you wish to say that since the dayz of Adam and Eve (Worm shit for the Atheists) we have been smoking weed and doping crack/coca so much we see evil spirits and they affect us physically by possessing us.

These things are real, witches, spirit beings, demons or life forms from another dimension, they are real because i have personally seen them in action and i don't mean in the invisible, in the days of Bar Beach, you will shit-in-your pants watching a prayer session where a demon possessed person is under deliverance. i mean they vomit real turtles, lizards and small snakes LIVE!!! you mean to tell me that these people swallow these things for days without digesting them? o everyone else watching was so doped up on weed that we all saw the same thing?

This is not true. . . if it were true it would be reported in the news. . . people will travel from all over the world to come and witness it. . . its completely not true. why is it that people like you who always claim to have experienced such events never have anything but words of mouth as evidence? you never have pictures, videos or any form of real evidence to prove it. anybody that vomits lizards and turtles will be protected by the nigerian government because such a person will bring a lot of tourist and cash into nigerian.

bindex:
Interesting, but how then do you explain all the screaming, shouting and crying from the young hausa girl in response to the koranic verses were read out loud to her?

The same way the christain demons/evil spirits respond to christain prayers and the same way the hindus demons and evil spirits respond to the hindu prayers and incantations. its all in the mind. . .

Pastor AIO:
Where did you ever hear that a psychiatrist had cured a schizophrenic?

What exactly does the fact that buddhists are attacked by buddhist demons and christians by christian demons tell us about them. you say it says a lot about them, pray tell, like what. What does that say about them?

It says they are all imaginarywhat you do is what you get. . . . what you believe in is what usually happens to you. . just as you rightly pointed out, why is it that aljanu never attack christains, hindus etc? why is it that christain demons/devil never attack moslems, jews or hindus spritually? the answer is because they are all imaginary spirits. enough said. . .

Seun:
Take your "demon-possessed" child to a good mental institution, and he will be "healed" in 2 weeks. Grr.

tell them make them here ohh abeg. . .

Pastor AIO:
Why don't Aljanu and various djinns possess christians. Why don't satanic demons possess buddhists? Why doesn't Sango possess moslems, only arabic sounding spirit? I think if we can answer these then we'll have made great strides to answering the main question.

buddisht, hindus etc all have their own evil and demonic forces that affect them and only them alone while christains and moslems have their's that attack and affect them alone. . .  that says a lot about all these imaginary beings. . . .

because non of them exist. . . dont go around worrying about witches, wizrads and aljanu they only exist in your mind. . . those people you alluded to are suffering from some mental illness or some form of schizophrenia. . . . .

I love me some silvia saint. . . .ohhh ahhhh so nice. . . .

davidylan:
No he can't be huxley . . . at least huxley had some intelligence with his questions.

Mr intelligent. . .

davidylan:
As regards your issue of "doublets" in the bible . . . it is typical of the dishonesty of proponents of the documentary hypothesis.

while it blathers on about "doublets" in the bible . . . it completely ignores clear cases of doublets appearing in other Near Eastern literature that appeared about the same time as Genesis was written. e.g.

a) Urartu: In many royal inscriptions there is an initial
paragraph attributing the defeat of certain lands to the god
Haldi--then the same victories are repeated in detail as achieved by
the king. (from Kitchen, AO & OT p. 117) in:Handbuch der chaldischen
Inschriften pp. 61-63;86-100;119-32--these are weak parallels--just
attributes to god.

b) Egypt: Gebel Barkal Stela: (Kitchen op.cit.p.117) (ZAS
pp.24-39--back of notes)

Lines 3-9-- General terms on royal supremacy.
Lines 9-27-- Specific triumphs in Syria-Palestine.
Lines 27ff-- Tribute.

c) Egypt: Karnak Poetical Stela: (Kitchen op.cit.p.117.
Erman pp.254-58--back of notes)

Amon-Ra addresses Tuthmose III
Lines 1-12-- General, "I have given you power over all".
Lines 13-22-- Fills in details, specific lands.
Lines 23-25-- General statement (restatement) of power.

The key being that rather than doublets being a problem of multiple authors or sources (the doublet "problem" of Noah's flood is actually about SOURCE and not AUTHOR - but of course i don't expect you to know that at all, just copy and paste), it is an issue of literary style.

davidylan is this one of your moslems are enslaving people in mauritania moment ?

syphillis:
i like olabowale,for real that man's got a good heart,person wey dey vex wt olabs dey waste time,d guy has no problem


osisi this topic should be about "who on d relgious threads wt opposing view,would u not like to meet"  i bet u my list will be as long as metuselahs age

[b]mazaje will be d number one because if i get to meet him,his sorry self wont smell this earth again [/b]chrisbenogor i like that one alot,atleast hes cool headed and does not exchange words like mazaje,or get over angry like masoje abi na mazaje

huxley that one will be to give him 10 slaps in one second

and okija juju that one is a clown on his own
haba anytime them ban person na jenny
abeg na hot funmi ooo

o boi no be fight ohhhif you notice na only davidylan me the insult for nairaland and na him dey always start, that aside why you go wan kill me? no be small thing ohh. let me borrow line from davidylan. mazaje is a man of peace. . . by the way why you dey beef us? is it because we are always revealing that all religions are frauds?

Pilgrim1 she sounds very calm and collected. . . .

babyosisi is a delusional radical. . . she acts as if prophet mohammed molested here when she was a kid or something. . i know am a radical too. . .