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@ davidylan
where did you get all these knowledge of science from? is it from the bible? what does the bible know or say about science? do you believe in the genetic engineering model of jacob? do you believe that the rainbow is a sign of covenant between the hebrew god and mankind or what science says it is? how did the biblical god create light and living creatures using words of mouth? can you tell us? what about falling stars on the day jesus come flying into the sky? or are they all parts of the miracle of jesus? what a goon.

manmustwac:
I haven't seen any shred of evidence to prove that there is any God ok Listen there is no God ok! I mean that typical of your kind iNstead of giving me physical evidence to prove that God is FOR REAL all you can say is wait till the day of recompence {judgement day}

when is that can you tell us the date? who will judge you? i know for sure that allah will judge you. he will put you in hell for not accepting him and his prophet mohammed.

Kuns:
Well, I am a christian.

Hard-core christian, not like all the others.

Let's do what the Bible's say based on Facts not belief.


I'm also a Muslim = Mu (up) salim (peace); so when I say I am  a muslim I am a peacemaker. Mu-slim meaning up peacemakers.

Not like those islamic arabic muslim (Hindus) NO, but like the Muslims of Gambia, Ancient Sudan / Africa.

I am an Islamic Nubian Hebrew so what does this make me?

The facts is my way of life, not belief or believe. If I tell you I believe something it means I don't know.
And to not know is ignorance. Because you can believe a thing as much as you like, and still be a 100% wrong.

We can still talk provided (about any subject under the face of the SUN) you have a sound reasoning mind, and want to know the truth (facts), of all these things.

Anything you want to talk about. I

No beliefs, please.

what brand of weed do you smoke in your cult kuns? your child molester god really has you in line.

Pastor AIO:
Oh, you know that one too. I didn't want to talk lest I upset the guy. I wonder if the Rev has come out of prison yet.

At least you've got to give it to them that they can be funny. I love the wordplay. Check this out:

Tobacco kills. it is encoded in the name of God's Dwelling. Taba na Iku. Taba is death. Tabernacle. Although I suspect that one has to be on much stronger stuff to really OVERSTAND.

be[b]lie[/b]ver Kuns and his child molester of a god.

why do you post threads like these you and huxley?   they're unassailable and don't leave much room for discussion.  It's just BAM!, party's over. . . . . .

thanks for posting it anyway. how can any christian view such "contradictions", and remain a believer?(christains always have answers to such things by declearing that they are spiriutally discerned)  it just goes to confirm that the people that were alleged to have written the gospels did not write them, it also proves that the gospels were made up and not written by "eye witness" as the bible alleges. . . . . . .

casper:
i have funny questions. could the person we are talking about be OBAMA??

McCain calls him "that one"

Christians in America call him the man of sin because he supports Gay marriages and he supports abortion.

and he said that everybody would have universal health care and if you don't have you can get medical help, hmnnn interesting!!!

also the way tattoos on peoples bodies are growing is scary!!!

my two cents

your question is'nt funny, it reeks of ignorance and delusion. what's this what has universal healthcare got to do with anything? is this an indiana jones movie description or what?

huxley:
Good point but you "appear to suffer under the delusion" that the heaven (or the Kingdom of God) is a physical thing. The Bible says, the Kingdom of God is within you, so all these dimensions are just allegorical. Although I fail to see how metrical units could ever be allegorical.

if heaven is'nt physical then why does it have dimensions? what about hell? is it invisible too i have seen and meet christains _{and moslems}  who claim to have been to heaven and back and their description is just as it is written in the bible _{or the koran}. they claim to have seen daimonds, gold, angels etc.

metric units 

the gods that nigerians worship are long dead, but even in death they(gods) all seem to love and appreciate money. they accept money from nigerians endlessly without ever doing anything for the people, they never answer the prayers of nigerians. they leave nigerians in dire poverty, sickness and without security of anykind. please gods wake up, wake up stop sleeping. . . . .(allah,jehova,sango, amunachi etc) where are all of you? nigerians need to charge their gods for dereliction.

There isn't going to be enough room in heaven for everyone, i was watching the god channel as i usually do when i am together with a friend of mine who is an end of day enthusiast when this pastor came up and started preaching about heaven and the end of days. he talkled about its(heaven) dimension as written in the bible, i looked it up and it was really there, i intially thought he was joking but when i checked, there it was lol. i bet the size is not enough to accomodate the over 1.8 billion christains that we have in the world and those that have long died lol. so even if i believed in heaven its still a chance i won't "fit" according to the bible. so what do you all think about the measurements of heaven in the bible?

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.


Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. . . . . . . (it then goes on to give the dimension of the city)

Rev 21: 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.


Rev 21:15 The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls.


Rev 21:16 The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia [fn]in length, and as wide and high as it is long.

Rev 21:17 He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits [fn] thick, [fn] by man's measurement, which the angel was using.
Rev 21:18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass.

my end of days enthusiast friend showed me where he copied the precise dimension from another webpage. he had it in his note book so i copied it.

The measurement of the city described in Revelation chapters 21 and 22 is 12,000 furlongs. A furlong is 1/8 th of a mile. This makes the city about 1500 miles square, or 1500 miles in all directions. That is quite a large city. The total land area of the United States, including Alaska and Hawaii, is 3,717,796 sq miles. The literal land area of the city described in Revelation would be 2,250,000 sq miles. That would make the city a somewhat larger than 1/2 the size of the United States. In addition to that the wall of the city described in Revelation is 1500 miles high. That is an extremely high wall considering that most commercial airliners fly at an altitude of about 7 to 8 miles.

The pastor also said that it should'nt be taken as a literal, he said they are figurative(which is always the excuse). what do you guys make of this?

sexy 888:
mazaje you sound like a cultist,are u sure you are not an afghanistan?

What made you think that i am in afganistan? i just stated that which is in the bible that the biblical god killed some one because he helped in holding the wooden ark in which the biblical god resided in. what was the biblical god doing inside an ark? this is completely hard to understand.

segyemaro:
you have not made any point,you are just fighting,what exactly are you driving at?

I am only saying it as it is. . . . .

Troynow:
Women that mount the pulpit as so called pastors are disobeying God's word and can be ascribed as unbelievers. 1 tim 2:11 and 1 Cor 14:34 will judge any woman who refuses to take her position in the Body of Christ but usurps the authority of Men, after God has set things in order in the church. And please let us not be deceived by the fact that some are anointed. Remember 2 Thess 2:11. Anyone who refuses the truth will be deluded by God to accept a lie. In this case they will be so anointed to make it look as if God is ok with women preachers just to delude them because they refused the truth they found in the holy scriptures. Remember the story of balaam Num 22 and the story of king Ahab 2kings 22. Also Uzzah was killed by God for 'helping' to hold the ark of God when it was not his job (2 Samuel 6:6-7). Lets respect the bible.

what kind of nonsense god will give people free will, and decieve them into accepting a lie?(any way the same god told pastor adeboye to lie to people) what is this? does that sound sensible or rational to you? the extent which you guys go in defending the bible and some of its ridiculous assertions is quite shameful. so the biblical god killed somebody because he helped in holding and ark and yet you guys promulgate him as merciful why was god living in a wooden ark? i thoughht he was supposed to be every where? why did he chicken out and choose to hid inside an ark? is it because he reveled in killing people that come close to the ark or what? what a shame that you guys promulagate this murderous and blood thristy dieity as merciful, loving and kind.

@Kuns
you want me to go ahead and post pictures of black on black crime, slavery and violence too? i bet they are more lurid and gruesome than the pictures you posted up there.

davidylan:
the problem is KAG comes here spewing a lot of jargon and so the dumb here keep crying about how good she is with what are largely the theories of those with nothing to do with their time but dream up conjecture.

see this deluded slowpoke, you are use the proceeds of science in your day to day life and open your dirty mouth to say that science answers nothing, what has the bible answered? here is how your bible describes genetic engineering

37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban's animals. 41 Whenever the stronger females were in heat, Jacob would place the branches in the troughs in front of the animals so they would mate near the branches, 42 but if the animals were weak, he would not place them there. So the weak animals went to Laban and the strong ones to Jacob. 43 In this way the man grew exceedingly prosperous and came to own large flocks, and maidservants and menservants, and camels and donkeys.

here is what your bible says about rainbows

Genesis 9.13-15):

I have set my bow in the clouds, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh.

deal with it, remember that the bible also asserts that evil spirits cause blindness and wasting away of body parts. you are yet to tell us how the hebrew god created light using words of mouth or how what mechanism he used in separating the light from the darkness, you are yet to tell us how the biblical god created seed-bearing plants and trees using words of mouth. you are yet to tell us how abraham who commited incest(married his half sister gen 20:12), or lot who commited incest with his daugters(Genesis 19:30-38 ) were able to survive and flourish desipite what science has told us about incest( biologist/geneticist have showed that serious birth defects is higher the more closely related the parents are.)

you are yet to explain to us despite all you shouting and rants how the biblical god created living creatures using words of mouth. can you explain to us how all men decended from adam? explain to us how the stars will fall into the earth on the day that jesus will come into the earth from the skies. you keep on shouting that science has answered nothing, what has the bible answered? why do you go to hospital when you fall sick when the bible tells you that prayer alone is enough to "heal" you? you want science to provide 100% answers when the bible provides non or simplistic statements at best. apart from the stupid and lame excuse you guys have to always shout miracle, what has the bible answered with regards to life and the world around us? what is a miracle and how does it work? explain to us using your knwoledege of biology and science how jonah survived in a fish for 3 days. i heard that pastor adepoye travelled for more than 300km on an empty tank is that one of the miracle work of the hebrew god too? bunch of goons.

KarmaMod:
havent come across any what?

and the reason the ones you guys MIGHT KNOW are seen as "closedminded religious zombies" is because you're the ones screaming for "God Fearing Women". They c\act like the god Fearing Women and you are now complaining that they're stupid. Naija chicks can never do right apparently

Am not that kind of person. . . .

@ Kuns you need serious help so a child molestor is your mentor and god? Bleep all nuwabians and black supremacist. . . . .

busybein:
even if u leave me,u know u can't find another woman as pretty as i am

Thats true, i must admitt, its part of the reasons i had to reconsider my actions, but i have to reassert any more tricky move and its over.

hubreality:
I thank God for pastor Adeboye. Does it matter they critics. Ask yourself; What positive impact have i made in my world and what is your answer? The Lord of Host is his strength. "All things are possible to him that believes" This is beyond the play of[b] self, science [/b] and religion.

people like you are the reason why nigeria is thirsty despite it sitting on an ocean of rescources. all things are possible for him that believes in what? how has the belief of nigerians help solved their enormous problems? how has the belief of nigerians helped in reducing the very high rate of road accidents which claims so many lives on the nigerian roads? how has the belief of nigerians helped in reducing the very high rate of armed robbery that is rife in the country?

busybein:
no naaaaa,chris is only a bros to me oooo,ask him naa,he will tell u,lai lai ask anybody i have never cheated on my one and only mazaje truth,no divorce,i will just commit suicide

ok last chance any more tricks or pranks and we are done.

KarmaMod:
What is this?

what you just read. abi na lie? i know it's bad to generalize but i have'nt come across any.

busybein:
haaa no its not what u think honey u see ehmm,chris is my beloveth brother, that "my chris" is not the intimate thingy,truth, chris is like a brother to me ,u know ive never cheated on u before,and i wont start now plsssss,no divorce ejoooo

the dots have now fully connected, they have been there all along for me to see, now that the connection is starring at me right in my face divorce is the only option left, if you wont be in court send your lawyer as for me an out.

busybein:
ROTFLMS_exyG_orgeousB_ehindo_ff

now really,like seriously u ple should leave my chris alone ooo,haba,must y'all attack him wherever and whenever?

i prefer chris to other athiests,but i just wish he'll change and believe in God

Busybien! chieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, marriage is OVER, we shall meet in the divorce court. chieee, ehen, ok ohh , i know what i will do.

see this dogmatic and deluded bunch. . . . . . this is really hilarious

davidylan:
A theory cannot be the basis of another theory. We don't know the big bang occured.

The wohle biblical assertion and creation story is just a theory that was written by men that lived in and wrote on stones centuries ago. By the way we don't know when the biblical god created the world using words of mouth(probably hebrew). if you have any idea of the time or date you can let us know.

the correct answer is we don't know. You can only define space in the context of something else . . . in this case earth. Since earth didnt exist millions of years ago, what was in existence then?

I guess the biblical god and his angels. . . . 

Straw man alert. Does science have an answer for how we came to arrive on planet earth?

can you tell us how the biblical god created light and water through the use of words? you were quick to point out that science has no answer, what then has the answers? prayers? . when it comes to science you want 100percent proof but you are quick to use imaginary conceptions and bizzare analogies to buttress you god rthetorics.

i see another pat robinson

God created the world and himself

@ Nimshi

Until he tells us how the stars are going to fall into the earth on the day jesus comes from the clouds, you have nothing to explain to him about the science behind evolution.

davidylan:
The "definition" issue is a red herring to avoid the question.

You said there was irrefutable evidence for evolution, where is it?

you keep asking for evidence when it comes to science but you are yet to tell us how the biblical god created light using hebrew, neither have you been able to tell us how the biblical god created the different human races, what about the lies the bible says about rainbow?. you have not told us how donkeys are able to talk. what does the bible know about science? here is how your bible describes genetic engineering

37 Jacob, however, took fresh-cut branches from poplar, almond and plane trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood of the branches. 38 Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be directly in front of the flocks when they came to drink. When the flocks were in heat and came to drink, 39 they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted. 40 Jacob set apart the young of the flock by themselves, but made the rest face the streaked and dark-colored animals that belonged to Laban. Thus he made separate flocks for himself and did not put them with Laban's animals. 41 Whenever the stronger females were in heat, Jacob would place the branches in the troughs in front of the animals so they would mate near the branches, 42 but if the animals were weak, he would not place them there. So the weak animals went to Laban and the strong ones to Jacob. 43 In this way the man grew exceedingly prosperous and came to own large flocks, and maidservants and menservants, and camels and donkeys.

here is what your bible says about rainbow

Genesis 9.13-15[24]):

   I have set my bow in the clouds, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh.

we all know that this description and assertions of the bible are a big joke so deal with it and stop talking about science and the bible, because they just don't agree until you use your knowledge of science and biology to explain how jonah survived inside a fish for 3 days or how all men descended from adam/noah, you have no right to come here and tell us rubbish about proving science or evolution.

davidylan:
rather than that being an answer, it is essentially a leeway to avoid confronting the huge holes in the atheist's story.

If God does not exist and evolution is not true . . . then how did we get here?

I suppose that is a valid question for the atheist.

I dont know how we got here but that does'nt mean that we should believe all the biblical lies like the creation story, noah's ark (which i know for a fact never happened), tower of babel(as the beginning of seperate languages), talking donkeys, jonah's story, unicorns, hebrew tribal and war god, prayers, miracles etc

busybein:
nooo its just an innocent conversation oooo true,infact emmm ask chris don't go and talk to other gals please,ejo,biko,I'm too jealous for that

ok apology accepted, kiss and make up

busybein:
ok now this is funny why sisters?

because sisters have "things" to offer . by the way busybein(my wife) why are you here talking to other men? i go vex go start to talk to other girls ohhh.

olivetree:
Well, i don't know why someof us are so vexed with Pastor Adeboye's claims. Do you think the board of Newsweek that included him in the list are fools, or you guys feel he has bribed them?

I want you guys to think of something, if he were a liar or a fake , why would all the people that troop to the camp go there month after month? There are several high ranking members of the society who go to worship there, people like Chairmen of blue chip firms, governors, bank mds, people from all over the world, professors, scientists, lawyers, and the kind of people that you would imagine are "highly knowledgeable" So, i think you should know there is something worthwhile that they are going there to see. Or why would a supposed "made" man go through so much traffic to listen to a simple man, a former university lecturer from a small town in Osun state.

Since God can change even the most ardent critic, then there is hope for everybody.

what are you saying? do you know what tradition is? going to church and christain jamboree has become a tradition to most christains in nigeria. the fact that university professors attend pastor adeboye's annual jamboree has nothing to do with the fact that the guy is a liar who lies with a straight face. he is on record to have lied about travelling for over 300km with an empty tank, so what the heck are you saying? "made" men go to his jamboree to make contacts and business connections, just as young boys and girls go there to meet up and fornicate, sick people go to get healed, job seekers go with the hope of getting a job, depressed and frustrated people go there to hear messages of hope, people looking for marriage go there to hook up and on and on. how has the prayers of pastor adeboye and all the hundreds of thousands of people that attend the jamboree help reduce the very high rate of road accidents in nigeria? how has their prayers helped in reducing the very high rate of women that die during child birth in nigeria? how has their prayer helped in reducing the very high cases of armed robbery in nigeria? how has their prayers helped in reducing the level of poverty and lack? how has it helped in improving the poor education standard that we have in nigeria? how has their prayers helped in reducing the high level of diseases such as malaria, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis etc. what about unemployment, how has their prayers provided jobs and financial security to people that don't have it? keep on deluding your self. by the way can you name one or two of the renowned scientist from all over the world that attend his annual jamboree?