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Image123: You meant to say? You mean satan possessed you and embarrassed you. I'll ask again to be sure, Is killing normal? I've read the Bible, God doesn't keep telling people to kill those that refuse to worship or obey Him. The whole world was in disobedience from Adam, God didn't keep telling people to kill those that refuse to worship Him.You are in error of hasty generalization. Have you ever seen anger drive anyone? satan speaks PRIMARILY through the language of thought.

Satan didn't posses me and embarass me any where. . . My position is simple, killing is a normal human occurance or activity that doesn't require any supernatural agent. . .You god is all over the bible killing people himself, bragging about it and telling people to kill others that refuse to obey him, is your god satan?. . . .Your god has killed and commanded people to kill uncountable numbers people according to the bible, but satan has killed or has caused people to kill very very few people in the bible, unless if your bible god is satan. . .Anger has driven me to do so many things and it has also driven so many people to do many things. . .Thoughs have nothing to do with satan. . .We have studeid how thoughts come about, we have never seen any satan playing a role any where. .If you can give us the mechanism he uses to get to our thoughts then you will be taken seriously, but so far all you have been able to show is that satan is just an imaginary construct. . .Thoughts have nothing to do with any satan at all. . .His alleged infulence can not be found anywhere. . .

Image123: Your subtlety smacks of satan all over. You said KILLING IS NORMAL. Now you are trying to twist your own words. Killing is not a normal thing from Cain till date. Every human being has offended God, all He did was not tell someone to kill you. You lie like the devil himself.

When I said killing was normal , I meant to say it is a normal thing that doesnt require any supernatural entity because you keep claming satan causes people to kill each other. . .Have you not read the bible, where your god keeps telling people to kill those that refuse to worship him or obey him?. . .Have you ever seen the devil lying to any one?. . .What language was satan speaking when you see or heard him lying?. . .

Image123: And the thousands of years before the invention of this devices are not enough to disprove their existence, how can't you see that? That there is no device to detect something doesn't mean that it does not exist. i can tell you some things about satan, i answered in line with what you have asked thus far. satan communicates with people primarily through their mind.

How do you know this?. . .What method does he use to get to people's minds. . .We have studied the brain, but we have never seen any satan communicating with any part of any brain. . .Did you see satan telling my brain that killing has been a normal part of human life?. . .

Image123: The point in the post is not the billions but the wave of the hand dismal. You have no proof that satan doesn't exist. i have proof and you are one. Only satan can convince someone that killing is normal. That is his work. Jesus told us that satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. Only him and his can find theft, killing and destruction to be normal

Killing has been a normal part of human history and doesn't require any satan. . .After all your god was all over the place commanding people to kill each other. . .Normally when you offend him all he does is tell some one to kill you. . .I guess your god is satan. . .

Image123: Sound is invisible to the physical eyes like satan, bacteria, infrared and nuclear energy. One cannot exactly describe their shape or form. This is the obvious and simple point you have failed to grasp, its almost miraculous.

We have invented devices to help us study and in some cases see bacteria, infrared and nuclear energy. They are all physical things. Satan is said to be spiritual but yet you can not tell us anything about him. . .How does satan communicate with people for example. . pls tell me how he comminicates with people. . .What method does he use?. .

[quote author=Misunderstood_G]I swear.. please will you marry me?? Moreso, the Big Bang theory is the most stupid i ever heard in my entire life.. Imagine, Nothing exploded from Nothing.. It's definately strange that we all gonna die someday..[/quote]The big bang does not state that nothing exploded from nothing. . .Know what you are talking about before attacking it. . .Anyway, how is it different from the claim that an imaginary god created things using words(hebrew words supposedly). . .

Image123: And you have attained all knowledge to show us that he doesn' exist, despite the claim by billions of people all over the world and in all generation? No one owes you a proof, satan already told you that killing is normal.

When did you hear or see him tell me?. . .That billion of people believe something does not make it true. . .Billions of muslims believe in allah, billions of people believe in the hindu gods. . .Billions of people believe in Yahweh. . .Billions of people also believe in reincanation. . .It doesnt mean they are true, it just shows that people can believe stuffs. . .

So your evidence to show that satan exist is the claims by billions, eh?. . .Pls tell me what is satan's form? is he in the form of a man or what?. . .Is he every where? Where are people all over the world blaming him?. . .Is he in lagos and new york at the same time?. .

fuckluv: Nah, u get it wrong. U can't chose for people as to what to believe or what not to believe in. Let that be the least of ur worries.

But people are always chosing for other what to believe and what not to believe. . . .

hisblud: all the early advancement you are all hailing as the works of men did not just start by sitting and not doing anything and waiting for someone else to do it for them, but great minds believed to prove it to reality by doing some strange things which to others was FOOLISHNESS. So my question to you is are you ready to be FOOLISH? Start by showing the shape of sound?

When you show me where I claim that sound has a shape then you can come and we will continue the conversation. ..For now pls I want you to tell me the form satan exist in. . .Does he exist in the form of a human being or a lion?. . .

Mr anony: I see a problem here. How exactly do you define what is 'better'? If what we consider better today can evolve into what we consider worse tomorrow, how can we know that it is better that what we previously considered better is now considered worse instead of what we considered better remaining better?

Didn't you see the word evolve? Evolve means it changes form. . .Our standard today is much better than that of your god and his chosen men at that time, as such if you try most of the commandements given by your god to them in the OT you will be in jail. . .For example,if you try stoning your disobedient child to death today. . .Jail shall be your home for the rest of your life. . .In societies that accept the death sentence you shall be executed. . .Our standard might be worse than that of the future generation but it doesn't mean it is not better than that of your god and his chosen men. . .Or should i say the Jews and their chosen god. . .

OLAADEGBU: If you must call it scare tactics, then it is a legitimate one.

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Heb.10:31).

Nice, I knew all along that ypu worship fear and fear is your god. . .

FOLYKAZE, just accept that you have been resoundingly debunked. . .

FOLYKAZE: What about if your gun Jam?

You will worship the goat.

A new God in making. Lol

Yes. . I will. . .

fuckluv: Since u don't believe in the bible, why then are u bothered about what the bible is saying? Why are u bothered abt hell or heaven when u believe nothing of such exists? The bible could as well be insinuating jargons for all u care.
So u don't need to be afraid or disturbed of what u don't believe in.
Cheers!

Am not afraid of anything the bible says. . .I am only bothered as to why people believe it. . .

hisblud: are you ready to be foolish?

You are insisting that satan isn't an imaginary myth, I told you to substantiate your claim and here you are posting more drivel. . .Well done. . .

[quote author=HerexG ]When you look at a building, you know you don't need anybody to tell you that some intelligent mind planned and constructed the building. Now look at what i'm also writing here, your common sense would also tell you that someone who has a bright mind is writing it . I want you also to access at the human body , the head comprises of the the brain ( the monitor), eyes (for seeing), nose( for breath), mouth( for speech nd digestion), and this same body now has blood to transport oxygen nd chemical materials. Now this chemical materials and oxygen needs to be transported evenly to the body then here comes the heart .
What i'm trying to figure out here is that , if you think of say there is no very intelligent super being, who has intelligently placed and crafted all these. You cannot tell me something can come out of nothing. You cannot tell me you can have a building without a builder, if God is no ordinary and not in existence why has the human not created man with out sperm cell and the oval eggs.
Have you ever wondered about the galaxy (because this super being knows quite alright the necessity of light to the existence of life), the sun is there for the light during the day and the moon at night, would you tell me that came out randomly or without proper planning, looking at the great distance these satellite are from the earth. I would go on and on to tell you about this great majestic super being you can also see that we have got His kind of creative trait as man looking at the amazing creation man made.
Now talking about what exactly do God do, He is has done everything perfectly and given us all that we need to survive as man but if we still want to connect with Him, we can do that only by Faith. So He does so many things today by faith, "now without faith it is impossible to please God for the one who draws near to Him must believe that He exist and rewards those who's week Him " (Hebrews 11:6).
I will conclude with what the great scientist Albert Einstein said on His own opinion about God " In the view of such harmony inin the cosmos which i, with my limiteded human mind , am able to recognize , there are yet people who say there is no God . But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views. God bless you all.
In God we trust[/quote]What you are simply tellig me here is that god is your defaul position for "I don't know". . . .Eistien by the way does not believe in your biblical god. . .To him the universe and the laws of nature are god. . .You don't know if the universe was created by many gods, you don't know anything. . .To claim that one god idea that emenated from a particular tribe of the jews is what created the universe is just a joke. . .Why not trhe god of the muslims called allah or the many gods of the hindus?. . .

Very interesting debate. . .

mcfynest: pls dnt misunderstnd me....wat i am sayin is dat if God is provoked he wil close his eyes of mercy....did u boda reading d bible txt above?

But christians claim their god is all merciful or merciful, how can an all merciful or merciful entity close his eyes to mercy?. . .

hisblud: also am a christian and satan exist whether you like it or not.

Prove to me that satan exist and is not an imaginary idea. . .Just provide onjective evidence to show that satan exist. . .

alexleo: If you don't want to give your life to christ then you have no business in whatever biblical issue that am having with my christian brother. Face your useless atheism or dump it for your own good. Busybody!

The fear of hell which you are practicing under the guise of atheism will not help you. Whether you believe in its existence or not does not change anything just like your non belief in the existence of God does not change the truth of his existence.

Didn't your put your god to a test with me and your god showed you that he was imaginary?. . .Plssss try another test again lets see how it will work this time. . .God, hell, heaven satan, demond all remain IMAGINARY IDEAS. . .

[quote author=I.Joan]Contrary to the claims of the new atheists, most scientists do not necessarily see religion and science as always being in conflict. Rice University sociologist Elaine Howard Ecklund and coauthors studied the responses of scientists at 21 elite U.S. universities, finding that only 15% thought that science and religion were always in conflict. About half expressed some form of religious affiliation.[/quote]Religion and science are not the same and will never be. . . .

[quote author=I.Joan]He has saved me and my family many times than you can immagine![/quote]But he refused to save thousands in Nigeria that were killed almost weekly as they go to worship in his place of worship(churches) by Boko Haram?. . .

Image123: Sounds like the best God ever, i know of no other.

What sounds good about the god i quoted in the passage?. . .Do you go about killing your kids because they refuse to obey you?. . .Do you starve your kids because they refuse to obey you?. . .Do you send wild animals to maim your kids because they refuse to obey you?. . .What exactly is good about the god in the passages i quoted?. . .

tiarabubu is doing some debunking here . . . . .

alexleo: The reponse of a hopeless man. Foolishness at its peak.

Another failed fear monger being rebuked by his christian brother. . .

ezme: What happens to the goat after the experiment should it be successful?

Unfortunately it will die . .It will be shot on its leg . . .After which its meat will be eaten . . .

Amo 4:6"I gave you empty stomachs in every city and lack of bread in every town, yet you have not returned to me,"
declares the LORD.


Amo 4:7 "I also withheld rain from you when the harvest was still three months away. I sent rain on one town, but withheld it from another. One field had rain; another had none and dried up.


Amo 4:8 People staggered from town to town for water but did not get enough to drink, yet you have not returned to me,"
declares the LORD.

Amo 4:9 "Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards, destroying them with blight and mildew. Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees, yet you have not returned to me,"
declares the LORD.

Amo 4:10 "I sent plagues among you as I did to Egypt. I killed your young men with the sword, along with your captured horses. I filled your nostrils with the stench of your camps, yet you have not returned to me,"
declares the LORD.

Amo 4:11 "I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire, yet you have not returned to me,"
declares the LORD.

Amo 4:12 "Therefore this is what I will do to you, Israel, and because I will do this to you, Israel, prepare to meet your God."

Does this sound like a good god or a monster?. . .What exactly is good about such a being?. . .

An interesting debate btw Bart Ehrman and Dinesh D'souza


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isg6Kx-3xdI

bolaino: U guys are taking this thing to the extreme, what are u guys trying to prove? @majaze, like u said u've already tried it twice, why bother again? Who knows this time around things might go wrong and u might end up killing somebody, so please my good man, I beg u to just drop this, please sire.

We will use a goat not a human being. . .

OLAADEGBU give it a rest, you are a FAILED fear monger. . .Nobody is buying the nonsense you are selling. . .Even your christian brothers are rebuking you and your failed scare tactics. Give it a rest pls. . .As I aforementioned your fear mongering techniques does not scare kids these days . . .

plaetton: Bros.
This is perhaps the biggest cancer in the Nigerian landscape. The perverse notion that if I shout jesus jesus, go to church everyday, pay bribe money to preachers, somehow, I am now awarded a get-out-of-jail card that absolves me of personal accountability and responsibility, moral obligations, duty to community and nation.

It is very very sickening.

The bible says righteousness are like rags in the eyes of its god. . .

mcfynest: "And to the others he said in
mine hearing, Go ye after
him through the city, and
smite: let not your eye
spare, neither have ye pity:
Slay utterly old and young,
both maids, and little
children, and woman: but
come not near any man upon
whom is the mark; and begin
at my sanctuary. Then they
began at the ancient men
which were before the
house." (Ezekiel 9:5-6)

if we are created in d image of God and we humans can have evil tot towards somone wo as ofended us......den y cant God sinc we wer made in his image and likeness

Created in the image of god or god created in our own image?. . .