₦airaland Forum

TOPCRUISE:
When PDP were in power don't they withdraw attached police and security personnel from the opposition incumbent Governor. It is a radical political culture.

Question is: why did we vote in APC, was it to maintain status quo or CHANGE things? We could have continued with PDP since we never really wanted to change PDP's style if doing things.
Integrity my feet. To think I fell for that 'gist.'

blackpanda:
All these wailers are stupid. If APC wanted to actually distabilize adeleke it would have easily done so. If not for buhari intervention adeleke would have been in police custody on election day. So PDP should stop wailing and be grateful. After all you have done worse to opposition during your 16yr calamitous reign!

Why then did we vote in APC, was it to continue the wrong narrative? The way some of you reason baffles me. I equally supported Buhari, but that doesn't take away common sense. We voted in APC to right PDP's wrong. We could as well have continued with PDP since there's no change after all.

babaolofin:
Most people on Osun election threads are 90% percent IBOs. The election is actually between APC & SDP. When I said Saraki is the best material for Nigeria as President, I know only very smart people can rule Nigeria. Nigeria does not need intelligent & hardworking person. Nigeria is like a Casino where gamblers, mafia, touts & area boys hold sway.

So, in Osun State or any South West Civil Service employment, education up to Secondary School level does not require certificate, you only need testimonial. I am yet to see a State in the South West where that is acceptable. FFK, Omisore & Ebenezer Babatope are from Osun State, they can ask them the requirements for employment into Civil Service as a School Cert holder.

Even in UN, EU and International NGOs jobs, education up to Secondary School level requires certificate . More importantly, people are attacking government over Adeleke issue but forgot it was PDP candidates that took him to Court over the certificate issue before the public became aware of it.

Till date, no person, organization, human rights group or Civil Society organization has the audacity to go to Court over Kemi Adeosun's matter for months while she is here.Even, they can still go to Court while she is in UK .She is just a victim of the system.

Only smart people can rule Nigeria. The entire system is bad beyond redemption. It is for people like Reno & co.

My brother, you skipped the question. Why invite Adeleke for interrogation, while leaving out Kemi? Who opened the can of worms is of no importance.

senatordave1:
Has any of them ever supported buhari

Atleast Afenifere and never supported Jonathan in 2015, invariably they supported Buhari. Arewa supported Buhari. I also supported Buhari (my history on this forum can attest to that).

In all honesty, has Buhari not disappointed many? Has he not lost followers even on this forum? Be honest to yourself.

High time. If Buhari is as patriotic as he claim, why can't he support a vibrant young man like former Deputy Governor of Central Bank- Moghalu or support his Vice-president Prof. Osibanjo who has shown unrivalled loyalty?

Na only en love Nigeria enough to improve it?

Beauty in the pics. I love my country.

Sad truth. They came for him. I only pray he sees the truth- the man in the mirror contributes to Nigeria's flaws.

Buhari weak me Sha. How much good news it'll be if he resigns and supports Moghalu? or Durotoye.

edupedia:
....dont compare Jonathan to Buhari....Buharis voting base is 5 times bigger than that of Jonathan

Look how you muddled things up. I quoted you based on your theory that Buhari is doing something right, hence the elite class decamping; you fail to recall that same elite class once dumped Jonathan. Was Jonathan doing something right? Let's eat out humble pie. I on this platform vehemently opposed Jonathan and campaigned for the "corruptless Buhari" once, my history on this forum is open if you wish to dig.

On Buhari's voting base being 5times bigger, you may want to tell those in Benue, Taraba, Jos and even Lagos that once voted overwhelmingly for Buhari that.
I bet you Lagos may return APC in the State and still kick out Buhari, save and except Federal might sees him through.

Frankyboy1:
Buhari must be doing something right, for the elites to be conspiring against him, nd for the youths celebrating, until efcc, NPF, INEC defects to PDP, there is no need to celebrate like in ekiti, because buhariwill still carry d day come 2019

Using your logic, Jonathan was doing something right too when Saraki led other governors to decamp to APC before the 2015 elections.

Lagos ofcourse got class. It's the ideal Nigeria, what Nigeria ought to look like. Unfortunately most other state governments are inhumane, andthecitizens in most of these states are too uneducated to engage government meaningfully.

koboko69:
I pity people who think PMb will loose 2019 elections. Yes they may loose some states.....but def not the presidency!

How come they are going to lose states? You've inadvertently admitted the government has lost popularity greatly, a departure from 2015. Only rigging will keep Buhari there.

And yes I support the Bihari's June 12 decision and I was a Buhari 2015 campaigner.

Obaseki is easily amongst the top 5 governors in Nigeria today. I say so with no apology. He is a testament to the fact that non-career politicians is the way forward for Nigeria now.
I reside in Benin and can't tell all Obaseki's administration has done in one sitting, from road infrastructure, to traffic development, to wealth creation and employment, power infrastructure( even though BEDC dey mess up)etc.
Prior to his election, I never believed in him and I still think Ize-Iyamu won that election as he was more popular than Obaseki, but today the narrative is different, one can't put Ize-Iyamu and "the wake and see governor Obaseki" in same sentence.
I used to think also that Oshiomole is Edo's best till I experienced Obaseki.

progress69:
Incumbents have structural advantages in any political atmosphere worldwide....
That is what power of incumbency means....
Don't be intellectually lazy.....

What structural advantage? Advantage of appointing the electoral umpire who is supposed to be unbiased? Advantage of keeping hands into the Treasury and spending far above the amount allowed by our electoral laws, advantage of fighting against electoral reordering as proposed by the law-makers? What advantage are you talking about and where in the world do you see these play out.
Mr. Intellectual giant, in an ideal democracy as America, your policies, ideologies and achievement is bench-mark for returning you and not incumbency, else Trump never stood a chance.

tesppidd:
yes he will rig and win again

goan report to fbi

Tell that to the repentant democrat you sold us, and your children who believex in you to hand down to them s better process than you met it.

progress69:
I have asked i if u have energy to keep doing this till 2023..
All this una conspiracy theories sef, una do am tire b4 2015 elections he nor work, make i see as e go work with power of incumbency. Hope u have plan B, cos the hunger i dey forsee for u after 2019, u fit pass there kick bucket

What exactly do you mean by "power of incumbency?" Spell in clear terms.."rigging you meant?" Then he has lost popularity and fallen out of favour with the masses that voted him with their soul in 2015. You just indicted Buhari. Indeed rigging is now his last resort.

Jones4190:
President Buhari is just too blunt....

Now let's look at these established findings;

1) Do you know that over 65 million youths are illiterates in Nigeria – UNESCO, 2017

2) Nigeria also leads in the world's uneducated children - Newsweek, 2017

Nigeria has 'largest number of children out-of-school' in the world - BBC, 2017

Fact check;
You can hate Buhari, but the truth is that he stated the obvious and again, what is already known around the world. You should understand by now that PMB is not like any typical politician and because of that, he says things the way they are. He is just honest to a fault. It may not be diplomatically okay considering the environment of such communication

By now you should know education enhances your diplomacy. This invariably means our president is deficient in this regard. Even the best of his supporters can't help him out here. Femi Adesina at best has said the President is being misrepresented by mischief makers.
Point I'm making is, no matter the truth,byou must learn to be couth and diplomatic when representing your country before nations. Learn from Emmanuel Macron and other world leaders. Even Trump can't call Americans drug addicts even when a good number of her youths are into drugs.
What is wrong is wrong.

dearpreye:
Why all this needless episode?

Who your nairaland history epp?

But with respect sir I never mentioned you when I made my comment. You as well could have scrolled past and quote someone you in consensus ad idem with. Thank you.

Buhari has lost "a lot" of supporters already. For those that keep saying critics of Buhari never supported him from the start, please don't be too "lazy" to read my Nairaland history. I was a die-hard supporter even after 2015 till fulani-herdsmen crisis reset my brain.

But I still hate PDP. They brought us here and left Buhari as our choice (abeg Jonathan was not an option. Too many flaws in his government. Remember?)

Daewang:
Are you sensible at all? Where does ego come in here? If you suddenly learn a new word (ego) does that mean you have to throw it about without sense? You have never condemned actions of yorubas on this forum and that's hypocritical. You look to your own ethnic group as Igbos are not whatever you are doing. We stand alone.

Your opinion is respected. It's yours. My rationality however shouldn't also be questioned, it's mine.
I maintain the issue of both sides coming here to throw insults around without conceding or admitting short-comings, is one of boastful pride(chosen carefully, as you hate the word "ego" ) and not and self-preservation rhetoric.

Daewang:
Stop being a hypocrite. Have you ever condemned the hatred from yorubas towards Igbos on this forum? I didn't lose my humanity. There is nothing wrong in hating those who hate you. It is called self preservation.

More like protecting an overbloated ego than self-preservation. And from the post you quoted you'd observe I cautioned both sides and expressed my disappointment.

The thread in itself shows dispassionately an unbiased fellow. Both sides are enjoined to work together as the rest of the South look to them.

Daewang:
Coming from a notorious Igbo hater who saw nothing wrong in hatred to Igbos. You are a hypocrite and you can keep deceiving yourself by going to church because you definitely cannot deceive God.

You are funny. How does supporting Buhari mean one hates Igbos? Don't Buhari have supporters in Igbo land?
And why should I hate Igbos, do my life revolve around them? I go about my daily life dealing with various pet without asking who is Igbo or not.

My nephew and nieces are Igbo. What really us your point?
You may disagree with someone in politics, but it's no license to sound less a human being. Disappointed in both you and the Yorubas extremist like you in this forum. You lots are different faces of same coin. Don't lose your humanity mate. Thank you.

okerekeikpo:
Buhari is going back to Daura and there is nothing anyone can do about it

But your brothers on other threads have been taunting that they want him back, so he can destroy Naija. How do you reconcile that? Lmao. Igbos Sha.

Daewang:
Go and tell that to your ugly agbo seller woman that gave birth on the road side in the east because she is too wretched and poor to afford hospital. She created an eyesore and pollution in our land and I blame the Igbo women who helped her deliver. If I was there I would have butchered the dirty thing and her disgusting baby.

Read those words you wrote while looking in the mirror. How can a sane person who probably will be in church on Sunday write that.

What have you all turned into? Men it's disgusting. Argue that with your Chi.

I apologise for thinking a Region as tribalistic and divided as the South can see beyond its nose. Well as it always ends- insult and more hate.

Apologies to the Yorubas who think I gave the impression of Yorubas being cowards; I actually pointed out I'm Efik from the start and the thread is my own opinion on the Nigerian question.

I also apologise to the Igbos on the platform for asking them to sheath their sword.

I understand better now that we prefer the fights. Let's all vote Buhari again since we hate one another.

QuotaSystem:
You cannot call for a gang-up based on hatred and expect love to blossom.

Be wiser next time.

Nobody asked for a gang-up. I just wanted love to lead. The Nigerian media is now too saturated with hate. We forget we lived peaceably one with another 10-15 years ago.

Well I've learnt my lessons. They all can tear one-another to pieces.

Both the Igbos and Yorubas on the forum has resorted to throwing insults at me for calling for peace.

It's alright I give up.

nkwuocha:
If you say Tinapa failed because of bad leadership, then I can assure you that you're unconsciously ignorant of the politics behind it. You will soon learn if you ask questions and get answers from the right people.Dont blame the management, blame those behind the scenes, they want it that way. Ask questions, I repeat.


That being said, You can't talk about leadership without politics. Those two are like water and source, like siemese twins. You may be an Efik man, but it shouldn't stop you from voting Your Own person even if his party is unknown. Like I said, Nigerian politics is not for the educated but for those who are ready to play the ethnic card.Its better to cast your vote on an unpopular ethnic brother than a popular northerner.

My brother, these are the issues we should be talking about. Nigeria is evolving and we should be at the point of downplaying tribal politics.

nkwuocha:
He may well be a Yoruba boy. This people will never stop amazing me. It's possible he is an imposter. But then there are many Efiks and ibibio who are short sighted silly. I have argued with a couple of them offline too. They are peaceful but mediocrity won't let them see beyond their noses. Tinapa calabar is now a shadow of itself, federal politics as usual. They want to follow other tribes to abuse the igbos,i find that laughable. Again, I rather vote a rebellious akwa ibomite wey no go school AT ALL than an educated northerner.

Good you agree not everyone that voted against Jonathan is Yoruba as there are Efik too, and if you want to test my identity, you are welcome. Go to Calabar Municipality L.G.A and find out Macqueen Ansa from Ikot-Ansa, my place of origin identification certificate will be given you.

That said Tinapa failed because of bad leadership. Liyel Iboje refused to see it true. Put an Ambode there, or Duke again and Tinapa would have survived. Leadership crisis is a Nigerian problem, politics aside.

Deprofessional:
Bro, SW, SE and together should never be used in the same sentence. It is an insult to the over 3 million women and children that were murdered between 1967 and 1970.

We cannot forgive on behalf of the dead.

Then why did the SE look forward to working with the SE for 2015 elections, because since that election, they taunted the SW as being betrayers.

nkwuocha:
And why won't you be concerned?
Or can't you see being concerned has earned the northerners more privilege in the presidency??
Why not play same ethnic politics like they do Support your brother first!!!! Play it their way! They will never vote for your own person no matter how good and educated he is, why vote for them Nigerian politics is not designed for the educated but for those who play it by ethnicity.Funny how you voted an illiterate who although has got military education as his major achievements but cannot strategize on how to clamp down on insecurity in the country. He is useless on all corners. You'll should be ashamed of yourselves. I rather vote Donald Duke than a northerner.

Na only Jonathan dey thief? Abacha no thief?? Abdusalam no thief??, obj no thief??,Buhari no thief

Any ibibio /Efik that supports a northerner as against his own thiefing brother should be thoroughly flogged.YOU PEOPLE ARE MARGINALIZED!!!

Everyone will rather vote Duke.
If Buhari had performed, you won't be here talking about supporting Jonathan. Competence is better than mediocrity and tribalism.

nkwuocha:
Mr man, is there anything wrong for an ibibio man or Efik man to be the president of Nigeria? Are you short sighted to understand the games of hatred played by the FGN, to undermine the igbos and her co-tenants?Do you think the FGN will support massively a president from after the Niger? Including states like Akwa ibom and calabar?We are in this mixed up Shiite together because an average northerner still sees you guys as igbos.Agsin,continue campaigning for one Nigeria while your brothers working in oil companies are sacked and replaced with Northerners. Efulefu!

Nothing is wrong with that, hence this post. Observe I called for Emefiele, Duke, Fashola or Adesina for President. I need competent hands and not just because one is my brother.

But if the South is divided, how do you want an Efik minority to be president. Duke can only be president if SW and SE work together.

nkwuocha:
Please don't force "unity".From day 1 the igbos are clear exactly on what they want. We don't want Southern unity, period. It's very shameful for Efiks and ibibios to be anti-igbo, you are more Nigerian than pro-Southern unity. Donald Duke is out, and I see a lot of igbos already supporting him online and offline because we believe he is one of us by ethnic extension. But you voted Jonathan out to bring in a Northern bigot and evil religious fanatists. Now you want Southern unity with the igbos. Jonathan wasn't an igbo man's yet we voted for him.

I don't blame you. A state with more oil than entire south put together, yet is counted as one of the most impoverished state in Nigeria. Nonsense!!!

Not many of us are concerned with where a person is from as much as concerned about the overall development of Nigeria.
It is just unfortunate Buhari failed.
Duke never came out to contest in 15, else I'd have voted him.