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I have noticed that it isn't universally agreed upon by mathematicians if zero is a natural number or not. It was a surprise to me actually, since math is supposed to be precise and hence universal. This makes me wonder what the criteria for determining a natural number is. Is it that mathematicians do not agree on this criteria?

Natural numbers as much as I know, refer to normal counting numbers e.g. 1,2,3,4... but some people introduce zero to make the set of natural numbers 0,1,2,3... So, which school of thought do you belong to and why? I'm guessing this is a very unusual thread.

Math gurus, geeks, nerds, math lovers in general, your attention is needed here. Would love to read your contributions.

My surname was misspelt. I hope that's not a big problem.

Those who are getting the "no record found" response, the problem could also be from your surname. A letter was omitted from mine. Hope this helps.

sodiqyinka:
No it won't. Even if it is, you will be able to correct it albeit not on the portal but when in camp during registration. Cheers

Chief, please help me check this: 92197406IB

Ezekiel 4:9-15

9 Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley,
and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches,
and put them in one vessel, and make thee
bread thereof, according to the number of the
days that thou shalt lie upon thy side, three
hundred and ninety days shalt thou eat thereof.
10 And thy meat which thou shalt eat shall be by
weight, twenty shekels a day: from time to
time shalt thou eat it.
11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the
sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt
thou drink.
12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and
thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out
of man, in their sight
13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the
children of Israel eat their defiled bread
among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
14 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul
hath not been polluted: for from my youth up
even till now have I not eaten of that which
dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither
came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
15 Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee
cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt
prepare thy bread therewith.

johnydon22:
Imagine the biased mind.. He believes man can be inherently bad but no inherently good.. Just to glorify an idea that yet is man's

Funny enough, the Jewish God who is supposed to be the quintessence of goodness isn't even as good as the average man. In fact, how many "bad men" would command the killing of infants? Yet he says we're not good no matter what we do and so he must kill his own son to make us good enough.

macof:
I am nt a Babalawo, it's best u seek ur granddad or his Awo clique(if he has any)
Let them tell u about the Odu Ogunda where oduduwa first appeared and maybe Osa meji to help understand it's power
Because even I haven't finished learning

I don't have any beef with you abeg

Can you please intimate me about what you think Oduduwa is/was. Was he not a man?

Image123:
No semantics oh. No human being is inherently good, whatever deeds you do.

That's what the Bible says, right? One of its many attempts at vitiating man in order to glorify god. Fortunately, the Bible is wrong on that note. Man can both be inherently good and inherently bad.

Image123:
No one is inherently good, sorry.

Semantics, sir. It doesn't matter what word I chose to use. I think the point I'm trying to make is clear enough.

If angels could leave heaven just to have a taste of nubility, then heaven mustn't be much then. Maybe women are in fact the true heaven.

Image123:
i sincerely do not fully understand why anybody would want to be literally good for nothing.

Of course you do not understand. Your mind has been conditioned to do good for the sake of a reward for far too long. However, you need to know that such goodness is actually selfishness as an earlier poster has rightly pointed. Consider a man who feeds and houses the homeless because he feels it's the right thing to do, and a man who does the same because he believes the government will pay him a million dollars for doing it. Who do you think is inherently good between the two?

Buhari has enough corrupt acquaintances to manage yet. He doesn't need OBJ to join the fray. He doesn't need his direct endorsement; a tacit one will do. Those who will vote Buhari will vote him irrespective.

davien:
You misrepresented agnostic atheism there.....lack of knowledge isn't what necessarily permits disbelief but a non-substantiated burden of proof...
It's like you meet someone who believes in Chtulhu and you don't know what Chtulhu is....but instead of providing tentative explanations,you are given contradictory accounts from different time periods and different authors till you really can't say if its true or not...Then you tell the person that if there's nothing that can be substantially known about it,then you aren't convinced of it's existence...
That's agnostic atheism in a nutshell...

Of course agnostic atheism entails more than I initially posted. That was just a synopsis. For many, concession to lack of knowledge is inextricably linked to lack of evidence. It is illogical to believe in something you do not "know" exists. That is akin to faith. To say that ones "knows" then, one must have evidence for the said thing. We do not know that leprechauns exist because there's been no evidence for them, so we do not believe in leprechauns. It's something like Robert G. Ingersoll put it:

" Is there a supernatural power- an arbitrary mind- an enthroned God- a supreme will that sways the tides and currents of the world- to which all causes bow? I do not deny. I do not know- but I do not believe."

Agnosticism is a matter of knowledge; atheism is a matter of belief. In many cases, the latter is a necessary consequence of the former, since it is illogical to believe in something you've conceded is unknown or unknowable.

Slowvenom:
I rather remain an agnostic, bro. You see? I liken atheists to theists, they're almost the same to me. They try all they can to prove and disprove it, but the just can't. So, I feel its best to sit on the fence in relation to this.

So, do you believe in god or not? You either believe in god or not, even if you're agnostic as davien has rightly pointed out.
Agnostic theist: I don't know but I still believe.
Agnostic atheist: I don't know, so I don't believe.

watchman111:
logical rubish

How so?

Let's wait and see. February 14 isn't far long.

It is so crazy here in Nigeria. Apart from not having affordable Internet, connection can be excruciatingly slow too. Sometimes it takes real determination to browse the internet. It is so bad in my house that I sometimes have to climb our mango tree. And na Lagos I dey o. Wetin we do for this Nigeria sef? Why does everything have to be difficult in Nigeria? Maybe these telecom companies feel since we're adapted to a hard life here, it will do no harm to give us another dose of hardship.

truthman2012:
There is no reason why the media have to add anything, not even for sale. It is only an assumption of yours that they added God to it.

The particle is not God but the creation of God. The scientists knew it was only God that could create that thing you saw in the picture and that is why they name it 'God Particle'

How intransigent can you be in your ignorance? You are very wrong to think the Higgs Boson has anything to do with God. Several posters have already tried to make you see your folly but like a typical uppity religious man you've decided not to learn. The name "God Particle" probably has its root in its elusiveness, which is akin to God. Whichever way, it's only a colloquial term for the Higgs. It has absolutely nothing to do with God. It neither proves nor disproves God. Next time when you are corrected by obviously more informed people, do your self the favour of taking to correction. Don't be obstinate. It doesn't matter that atheists are the ones correcting you, OK?

Abuamam:
Talking about Christianity. Does not concern me.

What concerns you, Islam?

When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major
league bullshit, you have to stand in awe
of the all-time champion of false promises
and exaggerated claims, religion. No
contest. No contest. Religion. Religion
easily has the greatest bullshit story ever
told. Think about it. Religion has actually
convinced people that there's an invisible
man living in the sky who watches
everything you do, every minute of every
day. And the invisible man has a special
list of ten things he does not want you to
do. And if you do any of these ten things,
he has a special place, full of fire and
smoke and burning and torture and
anguish, where he will send you to live
and suffer and burn and choke and
scream and cry forever and ever 'til the
end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He
needs money! He always needs money!
He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-
knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't
handle money! Religion takes in billions
of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they
always need a little more. Now, you talk
about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!
But I want you to know something, this is
sincere, I want you to know, when it
comes to believing in God, I really tried. I
really, really tried. I tried to believe that
there is a God, who created each of us in
His own image and likeness, loves us very
much, and keeps a close eye on things. I
really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell
you, the longer you live, the more you
look around, the more you realize,
something is bleeped up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease,
death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty,
torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice
Capades. Something is definitely wrong.
This is not good work. If this is the best
God can do, I am not impressed. Results
like these do not belong on the résumé of
a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit
you'd expect from an office temp with a
bad attitude. And just between you and
me, in any decently-run universe, this guy
would've been out on his all-powerful ass
a long time ago. And by the way, I say
"this guy", because I firmly believe,
looking at these results, that if there is a
God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever Bleep
things up like this. So, if there is a God, I
think most reasonable people might agree
that he's at least incompetent, and maybe,
just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't
give a shit, which I admire in a person,
and which would explain a lot of these
bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless
religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly
and blindly believing that all of this is in
the hands of some spooky incompetent
father figure who doesn't give a shit, I
decided to look around for something else
to worship. Something I could really
count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun.
Happened like that. Overnight I became a
sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you
can't see the sun at night. But first thing
the next morning, I became a sun-
worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I
can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other
gods I could mention, I can actually see
the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see
something, I don't know, it kind of helps
the credibility along, you know? So
everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me
everything I need; heat, light, food,
flowers in the park, reflections on the
lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey.
At least there are no crucifixions, and
we're not setting people on fire simply
because they don't agree with us.
Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no
mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no
one asks for money, there are no songs to
learn, and we don't have a special
building where we all gather once a week
to compare clothing. And the best thing
about the sun, it never tells me I'm
unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad
person who needs to be saved. Hasn't
said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I
worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the
sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on
our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather
rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and
trillions of prayers every day. Asking and
pleading and begging for favors. Do this,
gimme that, I need a new car, I want a
better job. And most of this praying takes
place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice.
And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot
of different things, you know, your sister
needs an operation on her crotch, your
brother was arrested for defecating in a
mall. But most of all, you'd really like to
Bleep that hot little redhead down at the
convenience store. You know, the one
with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can
you pray for that? I think you'd have to.
And I say, fine. Pray for anything you
want. Pray for anything, but what about
the Divine Plan?


Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long
time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it
a lot of thought, decided it was a good
plan, put it into practice. And for billions
and billions of years, the Divine Plan has
been doing just fine. Now, you come
along, and pray for something. Well
suppose the thing you want isn't in God's
Divine Plan? What do you want Him to
do? Change His plan? Just for you?
Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a
Divine Plan. What's the use of being God
if every run-down shmuck with a two-
dollar prayerbook can come along and
Bleep up Your Plan?


And here's something else, another
problem you might have: Suppose your
prayers aren't answered. What do you
say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be
Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and
He's going to do what He wants to
anyway, why the Bleep bother praying in
the first place? Seems like a big waste of
time to me! Couldn't you just skip the
praying part and go right to His Will? It's
all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to
worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't
pray to the sun. You know who I pray to?
Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think
he's a good actor, okay? To me, that
counts. Second, he looks like a guy who
can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't Bleep
around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on
a couple of things that God was having
trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something
about my noisy neighbor with the barking
dog, Joe Pesci straightened that
RoosterDrinker out with one visit. It's amazing
what you can accomplish with a simple
baseball bat.


So I've been praying to Joe for about a
year now. And I noticed something. I
noticed that all the prayers I used to offer
to God, and all the prayers I now offer to
Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the
same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I
want, half the time I don't. Same as God,
50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and
the horseshoe, the wishing well and the
rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same
as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your
fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles,
it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your
superstition, sit back, make a wish, and
enjoy yourself.


And for those of you who look to The
Bible for moral lessons and literary
qualities, I might suggest a couple of other
stories for you. You might want to look at
the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one.
Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll
like that. Then there's Little Red Riding
Hood, although it does have that X-rated
part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats
the grandmother. Which I didn't care for,
by the way. And finally, I've always
drawn a great deal of moral comfort from
Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best?
"All the king's horses and all the king's
men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back
together again." That's because there is no
Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God.
None, not one, no God, never was.
In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there
is a God, may he strike this audience
dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing
happened? Everybody's okay? All right,
tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little
bit. If there is a God, may he strike me
dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait,
I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my
balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh,
now I'm okay again, must have been Joe
Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank
you all very much. Joe Bless You!
(Copyright 1999 by George Carlin. Printed
without permission.)
http://www.objectivethought.com/
atheism/carlin.html

Abuamam:
Yaaawnnn. Who is justifying what? Read all the comments before you comment.

Who says I didn't read all the comments? I might be wrong but you sounded like you were trying to justify the killings.

Abuamam:
This is not the cartoon that upset muslims around the world. Those cartoons depicted numerous caricatures of the prophet with a dog's body, and in the nude as well as several deliberately provocative abuses of his person, over a long period of time. They even recently printed a mocking edition sneering at muslims for not having attacked them yet.
While muslims do not expect everyone to believe in his prophethood, moral human behaviour requires that you do not deliberately engage in baseless insults of what other people hold to be sacred. There is nothing wrong with scholarly and logical criticisms of Islam, carried out with a view to share or refute different beliefs, but those cartoons were just plain abuse and even the editor admitted that they were in bad taste, but sold best.

It still doesn't justify the killings. Nothing is more sacred than human life.

aisha2:
Death is everybody's portion no matter how loudly we type it and reject it. WE WILL ALL DIE, we have no say when, God didn't ask permission to create you when its time we will go, live a good, honest and impactful life rejecting mortality won't make it go away. Those who died also knew how to pray and claim. A family is mourning thinking about oneself and seeing your own life as more special that their childs own who just died is usually not a thoughtful response

Hmmm......so thoughtful.

RIP, miss. So sad.

RikoduoSennin:
I appreciate your "soft" handle on things- the hard one who have been pure annoying.

If you assume I am "ignorant" then all your comments will be attune with that NOTION. You have already created an invisible wall between our arguments, one that is not easily brought down.




You said the above with so much certainty, I am yet to see the proof for that claim. The above is not good enough. Why?

1 peter 1:1 - "Peter, an apostle of Jesus, to the Strangers scattered througout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia "

So the Catholics wrote that, based on what?

2 Peter 1:16 -- "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables when we made known unto you the power and the coming of our Lord Jesus christ, BUT WERE EYEWITNESSES OF HIS MAJESTY"

So the allege writer was claiming to be an eyewitness when he is not?

2 Peter 3:15 " EVEN AS OUR BELOVED BROTHER PAUL also according to the wisdom given unto him HAS WRITTEN unto you"

So Paul wrote but Peter did not write any scriptures, is that it?





It is not a UNIVERSAL FACT but a WIDELY ACCEPTED NOTION by persons who has not done enough Research.

Search this: What year was the Gospel of Mark written ?



4 legit/Canon Gospels, Every other Gospel is False. Any Book written after 95 C.E is non- canon.

You know your "legit canon" was decided by votes of clergymen of the Catholic (Universal) Church, don't you?

Pastors must be warming up for their yearly largesse now. The new year's really a happy time for them.