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Travel › Re: 10 Nights in Dubai by MetaPhysical: 2:04am On May 22, 2018

Hi Sapphire,
Thanks for bringing us along on your trip. grin

Im impressed with your style of writing and penmanship, you captivate.

Are you aware you can earn a living doing just this, your travel expenses and all inclusive promotional items paid for?

I noticed where you talked about lindt, toblerone, galaxy and kitkat....that's marketing. I had a stopever in Charles de Gaule some years back and purchased a toblerone during wait for my flight to Nigeria. I wasn't too thrilled with the flavor but the taste was unforgettable. Seeing it in your narrative gave me craving for a toblerone. grin

So add your charming beauty with smooth dark complexion and magnetic pull to captivate your audience, with travels through different countries and terrains to bring glimpse of culture and traditions to global aaudience....on CNN huh

Se you get my gist?

Much love! grin

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 12:53am On May 22, 2018

To truly get scope of what things looked like in the forest and coast you had to read the works of those that travelled and lived with the peoples that occupy lands between the latitudes at the coast and the latitudes at Lokoja. The lands are inclusive of Yoruba, Nupe, Bariba, Igala, Etsako, Edo, Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Ogoni, Efik, Ibibio, Kalabari, Ibo, Ika, Agbor. The works of authors to read will be like The Landers Brothers, William Bascom, Leo Frobenius, G.T.Basden. In addition we must visit the neighbouring ethnics and listen to their history and beginnings. Where is Ijaw roots, where is Itsekiri roots, where is Urhobo roots, where is Igala roots, Where is Bariba roots, Nupe, Ika and so on? Their stories will tell us a lot about the position of Ife and Benin. We already know Onitsha is from Benin after their ancestors were first in Ife. Same for Itsekiri, Ife is the root, Benin is just passage. Ijaw claim direct root from Ife.

In fact G.T. Basden came to live amongst and study the Ibos. He entered their territory through the swampy forest in the Delta and travelled upstream headed to Onitsha armed with a map of Bight of Benin. Some of the maps we have already seen here. He could not find a match between the hand drawn maps and land markers or for that matter people...he dismissed the maps as reports and conjectures! That is a hearsay from someone narrating what is not factual.

This is how we must treat the Edo maps and reports of the so called expanse from Cameroon to Senegal.

If the author reports Benin but has no knowledge of Ife, how then does Benin become largest? Largest in comparison to what? Those who gave accounts from their personal experiences in the two places are credible ones and their views to be adopted.

Leo Frobenius wrote about arts in Ife and Benin, he had seen both works. William Bascom had visited and learnt sbout those two places. Their views therefore tell of the cultural and historic values for both. Olfert Dapper was in Benin but never went anywhere else but his impression has become the motive for the Benin is greater than Ife. So wee understsnd the difficult position the Edos find themselves and why they have no material beside the writings of Europeans to support their claims. We then wonder if their greatness is relevant only in reference to European writers.

From GT Basden frustrations with infatuations drawn on maps.

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 11:35pm On May 21, 2018

davidnazee:
If you like deceive yourselves from now till tomorrow it doesn’t change historical accounts and facts that Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Yorubas.
Benin is always described as conquering and spreading far into Yorubalands and beyond. That is an empire.
So continuing deceiving yourself and your Yoruba brothers. We ruled you... chased your people from their lands, resettled some of u in different places, forced yorubas to flee their cities and villages into the mountains and forests.
Yoruba was the easiest for us to conquer because they are all cowards..

How can you conquer us but you speak our language in your palace? How you conquered us but you practice our religion? How did you conquer us but you practice our artistry? How did you conquer us but heads of your kings is not buried on your soil but on ours? How did you conquer us and you can't explain the presence of foreigners and their lexicon in your monarchy?

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 2:47am On May 16, 2018

This is necessary. Its a package!

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 1:58am On May 16, 2018

I went into Nairaland archives to review debates on Ife-Benin heirarchy and surprised about two findings.

1. There are tons of aged threads and shows this issue has been going on for long time. I gave up the review at a point.

2. In everyone of them that I saw and scanned through, without a single exception, fatigued by the barrage of assaults and verbal attacks, Yorubas backed out and left the threads giving Edos the last word.

This particular thread is different. Yorubas are on the assault and tenacious. Im sure Edos are shocked at the unexpected doggedness of the Yorubas on this thread. It's out of character for the Oduduwas to go this long in a verbal turf battle...but they are. I see the Edos showing fatigue on this thread. This goes to truth of the saying that Yorubas are laid back and quick to yield even when they stand on truth, however they can be unpredictable, when they charge forward...they come out for total demolition.

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 10:32am On May 15, 2018

To the guy posting precolonial maps, you are showing maps drawn by traders who were told by Benin how far their land extended and put it on map without verification or validation. This was in a time of pre-contact with the hinterlands and other coastal peoples.

After contacts with all the lands and validations they realized you were nobody in the classical civilizations of African peoples pre colonial rules and subdivision of African lands. So they corrected the map and issued a true map of political realms of civilized Empires.

Here is the true and validated version of civilizations in Africa. Please expand the map and find Edoland for us. If you cannot find Edoland, find Benin kingdom. If you cannot, explain why these places are not found in the list of civilized Africans, pre European contact.

You can clearly see Ife is the ruling domain and center of civilization over the entire West Niger.

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Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by MetaPhysical: 4:11am On May 15, 2018

gregyboy:
If it was rightfully yorubas i bet yoruba would use omo n oba to refer to thier prince instead of thier various names like aremo...

Tell me where yoruba used oba before 19c and i will show benins used in 14c

Hmmmmm....You raised a valid question. I will give you the answer in full details.

First, there are only two kingdoms with undisputable Benin dynasties in the Yoruba Commonwealth and neither of them was conquered -
1 - Olu of Warri
2 - Olu of Eko (Olu Eko, or Eleko) of Lagos.

Let me point to you that if either of these two were to spun a new independent dynasty elsewhere the title for that new dynasty will not be Olu...rather will be something else. There is no Yoruba tier-dynasty whose name is duplicitous in the next tier-kingdom. Never!

Oba is a covenant of sovereignty symbolized by the palm fronds and Akoko leaves. We have not found anywhere else in Africa that the monarchy is coronated using Akoko leaves. It is uniquely Yoruba. Oba derives from BA. You mention the people of BA in a circle of historians and archeologists and they will tell you it's Yoruba, not Edo.

Every crown head in Yorubaland was taken through the rites of the covenant and thus officially becomes Oba. The throne he sits on defines the title he bears. Let me repeat, the CROWN is the OBA, the THRONE IS THE TITLE. Thus Oba Adeyemi, Alaafin of Oyo will mean the Crown King Adeyemi of the Throne of Oyo.

So when Oranmiyan left Ife for Edo it was purposeful. The purpose was to start a new kingdom in Edo, based on the request tabled to the Kingmakers of Ife. So he was equipped before leaving Ife, with Priests and other Chiefs to proceed to Edo and investiture a new dynasty. Your Kings in Benin don't wear Ife or any Yoruba crowns, even though the origin of your dynasty is Ife. This might have been by design, but you are a foreign people and foreignland, you cannot be equated with the divine Obas in Yorubaland....this should explain why you were given Omo N'Oba N'Edo.

On the issue of conquests, it beats me why no scholar has taken up the challenge to dispute that Benin waged war and conquered Lagos. Who were the warriors that Benin fought in Lagos? grin

The Aworis? grin

(quadruple laugh)

The Aworis are Yorubas. There is no Yoruba kingdom that does not have a BALOGUN or BASHORUN, sometimes both! Aworis in Lagos have never had, and till today still do not have a Balogun title. Why? Because they have never fought a war. So who did the Benins fight to conquer Lagos?

The only Balogun in Lagos today is Balogun Tapa of Lagos. How did this come about? In the war of Agidingbi in 1851, in which Kosoko fought the British and Oshodi Tapa was the war General. King Kosoko had Abagbon Chiefs (The Bini war Chiefs) there at his disposal but they were not useful. The war was commanded by Kosoko himself with Oshodi as the General and Ipossu as the deputy. Oshodi's gallantry earned him Balogun of Lagos after the war and peace treaty that brought them back from Epe and resettled in Lagos.

So who did Benin fight to conquer Lagos, if the Aworis did not fight a war with you? Bini history is pregnant with a lot of fables and make-believe stories. It is time historians begin to peel through each of your stories to reconstruct the truth.

Yoruba could not have given you the Oba title, the same way you did not give Itsekiri or Lagos Omo N'Oba title.

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Culture › Re: Baby Girl's Face Mutilated With Tribal Marks (Photo) by MetaPhysical: 2:46am On May 15, 2018

Moreover, the marks are fake. They are still fresh and seeping blood. Why is the sorrounding tissue not inflammed or swollen as should be expected when the skin surface is broken in a bruise, cut or scrape?

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Travel › Re: Truck Carrying Onions Had Accident In Koto, Kogi, Many Injured, Dead (Graphic) by MetaPhysical: 6:43pm On May 14, 2018

May their souls rest in peace.

Have you ever seen overloaded trucks with people hanging on top and sides of the load? These are those people. Some of them get a free ride to South that way, others for minimal cost compared to routine commercial bus.

Business › Re: Items You Feel Embarrassed About When Buying. Share by MetaPhysical: 2:00am On May 13, 2018

TonyeBarcanista:
The most important thing is for you to get your PVC and vote out the present failed government of President Muhammadu Buhari

Restructuring ranks first. Join the voice

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Culture › Re: Why Iwo Eleru Is Important. The Yoruba Did Not Emigrate From Mecca by MetaPhysical: 12:06am On May 12, 2018

Furthermore, according to Islamic tradition, the history of Mecca goes back to Abraham (Ibrahim), who built the Kaaba with the help of his elder son Ishmael in around 2000 BC.

In time of Abraham there was no place known as Mecca.

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Culture › Re: Why Iwo Eleru Is Important. The Yoruba Did Not Emigrate From Mecca by MetaPhysical: 12:04am On May 12, 2018

There was no place known as Mecca in time of Lamurudu or Oduduwa.

Authentic Yoruba oral historians spoke of migration from Mondiana (Midyan) not Mecca.

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Culture › Re: Can igbo People In The South West be regarded as Easterners? Discuss by MetaPhysical: 11:51pm On May 11, 2018

Do you know an area called Obalende in Lagos? How about Idi Araba?

Hausas of the 10th generation or more....but they never claim anything than Hausa and North.

Do you know the history of Chief Landuji Oshodi?
His official title is Balogun Tapa of Lagos. His descendants dont even speak Tapa but they still bear names like Sanda, Umaru, Ndatsu and so on...proud of their heritage but mighty grateful for their legacy. Their ancestor was slave, and later a trader of King Eshinlokun of Lagos. 1700s! We are in 2000s! They have not abandoned their beginnings.

Those who arrived in 1930s should learn from the stocks listed above.

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Culture › Re: MURIC Calls For Arrest, Prosecution Of Oro Priests In Ikorodu by MetaPhysical: 10:59pm On May 11, 2018

PaChukwudi44:
For the first time I will have to agree with MURIC.How on earth in the 21st century in a big city like lagos,People are stopped from exercising their fundamental right to freedom of movement because some traditionalists are performing some ceremony.Its so so shameful

In advanced countries, from where your democratic rights of freedom to move about are dictated, half the metrocity is shut down on marathon race days. True or false?

When a national league team wins the championship trophy the mayor and governor declares for honour parade. For the whole day activity in the city is at standstill, not to mention pockets of violence looting and vandalism that follows after intoxication settles in. True or false?

When the President of America visits a city, districts within the city are shut down. True or false?

If those that dictate your living standards and acceptance of modernity dont see a conflict in their freedom of movement and hosting marathon race, hosting city party or shutting down city for their president, why are you invoking their foreign rights of liberty to restrict yourself against a local injunction that was fully practiced, and even complied with by colonialists that lived amongst and witnessed Yoruba Oro Festival?

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 8:10am On May 07, 2018

davidnazee:
I shake my head for ur lack of sense. Is there any mention of Yoruba on maps or is there mention of Yoruba empire?
Please argue with sense.

Look on the precolonial map i posted. Ife is there, so with many civilizations of Africa. Bini is missing. So does that mean Bini does not exist? In fact Ife extends over West and into Oil Rivers. My map of precolonial neutralizes all the points you meant to rsise, or raised, about your superiority. Find another anchor to support your claims, this map has done damage to your claims.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 7:56am On May 07, 2018

Moorish:
@metaphysical and @olu

What about the ekalahaderhan ~~hypothesis~~ hoax ?

The rebels were outwitted and pacified with a concocted fable that the Yoruba king was indeed the son of their exiled legend.

According to them they banished Ekaladheran from Igodomigodo town and sent him on exile. He wandered through the forests and ended in Ife where Yorubas jubilated to see a lost and found stranger to become king over them.

A Coc.k & Bull story cheesy

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by MetaPhysical: 2:07am On May 07, 2018

prolog2:
What he posted is not a map, what he posted is complete nonesense, theses are maps:

Benin Kingdom:

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item.r=Benin.zoom

I keep posting these precolonial maps only for them to be ignored and for fake maps to be discussed instead.
Don't let the yoruba fraudsters fool you with their fake documents.
The shape of Benin empire is well known, maps of the region were made hundreds of years ago.
The yoruba are trying to drag you into a non fact-based debate, because they can't win with facts and logics.

Do you notice that your map is missing many civilizations that pre-dated the map? If you observe you will realize the places marked are spots touched by seafarers or dessert chroniclers. In other words places experienced by those who wrote and drew maps in ancient times. If they did not touch Yorubaland it was not on the map. It does not mean they did not hear about Yorubaland because same sailors snd dessert travelers were the historians that documented and kept records of Bini roots and origin in Ife.

In equal measure I will support what Olu said about OVIEDO in one of his posts. So Ovie is Edo for child. Omo is not in Edo vocabulary. So how did you come about the title Omo N Oba, why is a foreign vocabulary attached to your monarch's official title? Which foreign land uses the word OMO?

Also Babaramota said Ile Ibinu is also not indigenous to Edo, that it is foreign. Yet your greatness as a society is enveloped in the city-name Bini or Benin.

The renaming of your land by the foreigner Oranmiyan is significant and point to conquest over Edo.

In all of these maps not one points to Edo, they all say Bini.

Your inability to shake off the foreign migrants from Ife that installed their throne and renamed your land is not lost on any of us.

Here is your assignment
1. Was there a Bini population on Edoland prior to Oranmiyan?

2. Is Omo an Edo vocabulary? If yes, what does it mean and how is it used?

3. Why are there no mention or accounts of Edo on map or Edo Kingdom or Empire in historical archives?

4. Why did Edo Chiefs go to Ife to appeal for a Yoruba ruler? What is it about Ife rulers that appealed to them?

Plenty precolonial maps exist and show functionality for sea voyage. A sailor will not sail to Oyo or Ife, so did not include in map. A dessert caravan will not go to Oyo or Ife for water or for rest and relief, so why bother put on map? However as trade markets opened into the interior of Africa, cartographers began adding routes on map.

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Culture › Re: The Chiefdom Of Ogiso And Kingdom Of Bini Both Have Roots In Ile-ife by MetaPhysical(op): 11:17pm On May 04, 2018

kayfra:
What's the name of the book?

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Culture › Re: History Told Us That Isiala Ngwa People Eat Humans, Is This True? by MetaPhysical: 11:13pm On May 04, 2018

Earthbound:
First of all, judging by the feet at the base of the photos taken, I'd say that's barely a hole to fit a fully grown human.

Now to the main issue, I have heard stories, here in Lagos, since I was a kid, that some people from the east are active cannibals. I heard they even lay ambush on the expressway and kidnap people to eat later. I also heard they go to regular markets to buy human meat as the butchers mask along with regular animal-meat selling butchers. I am not sure how true these stories are.

What I'm sure of is that every tribe on the planet has a history of cannibalism.

@bold, not true.

There is sacred ritual involving the organs of a predecessor King as practiced by Yoruba Royals in ancient times. Yoruba Race has never practiced cannibalism.

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Romance › Re: I Lost My Wife Once But Over My Dead Body Before I Loose Her Again by MetaPhysical: 1:03am On May 03, 2018

Kumar4india:
Get very creative in your approach. Get her family,friends and all to beg her. Get her pastors,a counselor. You need to win her heart by all means. And my hope is that you have truly changed.

Ahhh, pastor ke? shocked

Culture › Re: The Chiefdom Of Ogiso And Kingdom Of Bini Both Have Roots In Ile-ife by MetaPhysical(op): 5:28pm On May 02, 2018

Just a tease to start with.

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Culture › The Chiefdom Of Ogiso And Kingdom Of Bini Both Have Roots In Ile-ife by MetaPhysical(op): 4:22pm On May 02, 2018

These are facts widely accepted around the globe. Yoruba colonized and civilized EDO.

The first people to document Edo history in books and journals are the Portuguese. Thank God many of these books have been translated to English. The records are available to showcase truth as told by Edo Chiefs and Bini Kings to the Portuguese traders.

Not only is Oba of Bini a Yoruba, even the Ogisos were auxiliaries of Ife.

Yorubas, you should be asserting your donations and civilization of Edo with its two dynasties instead of defending just the Oba dyansty. The Oba and the Ogiso, Yoruba own both. The only thing you dont own is Edo itself.

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Culture › Re: Ancient Benin: Where Did The First Monarchs Come From by MetaPhysical(op): 2:31am On May 01, 2018

Im happy to hear that Omo N'Oba Ewuare II visited and paid respect to his ancestral home.

May the King live long
May your reign be prosperous and generous
May Oranmiyan continue to look over you
May Oduduwa sustain your spirit.
Isee!

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Politics › Re: A Projected Atiku's Masterstroke In Statistical Analyses! by MetaPhysical: 5:01am On Jan 31, 2018

Ratello:
I am too sure you did not read the post with an open mind because if you did, you would have seen my clear submission on his "third positions" drama. Atiku of then is not the Atiku of now. Read and understand.

As recent as two years ago he abandoned PDP because he knew he could not win the primary and crossed to APC in hope of securing the ticket. When APC held primary Atiku came third.

A political heavyweight would have remained in PDP and fight it out.

Then he again abandoned APC to go fight in PDP. Why cant his rating as heavyweight work in his favor in APC ?

OP are you aware your candidate doesnt even have control of the party structure in his State?

To be a heavyweight he needs to be the godfather of politics in his State. Governorship candidates in Adamawa dont respect Atiku, they ignore him and go to Abuja for endorsements.

Abeg dont let guys wake and jump in on this thread you will thoroughly be tongue lashed for this nonsense you call statistical analysis.

Delete this thing before naija wake up

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Politics › Re: Why Obasanjo Attacked Buhari - APC Chieftain Eze by MetaPhysical: 4:43am On Jan 31, 2018

What a lame input from Eze!

Obasanjo's recognition, acceptance and credibility in global circles far surpasses his accomplishments at home. If Buhari like sef rule for 4 terms he cant catch up to Baba Iyabo.

May God spare his life, next turn for Africa to head UN I think Obj will be nominated and win, particularly now he has proven his academic worth with a phd.

Tell Eze to broaden his view and see where Obasanjo has stepped foot, Buhari can't reach that level.

Politics › Re: A Projected Atiku's Masterstroke In Statistical Analyses! by MetaPhysical: 4:30am On Jan 31, 2018

OP, you call Atiku a "political heavyweight" but everytime he contests election he is beaten to "third place". You are a joker! Is that how they rank heavyweights in your village, people that place third in every national election are your champions?

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Culture › Re: Was Fulani History Truly Bloody? by MetaPhysical: 3:11am On Jan 18, 2018

Fulaman198:
I wouldn't refer to it as notoriety. Many True Africans in other countries would certainly disagree.

Are there any you regard as "fake" Africans, and can you identify them?

Politics › Re: Benue State Belongs To The Fulani By Right Of Conquest - Prof. Labdo Muhammad by MetaPhysical: 3:05am On Jan 18, 2018

This statement from the professor should be interpreted as declaration of war.

Though he is not explicit, but the principle he just stated is extendable to Ilorin.

If the people of Benue defy him, which they should do, the conflict will escalate beyond Benue and could very well cannibalize North and give fuel to bokoharam to reclaim entire territorial front of Adamawa up to Tchad.

A repeat of Checkoslovakia stares us in the face.

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Crime › Re: Fulani Herdsmen Kill Father Of 10 In Benue State (Graphic Pics) by MetaPhysical: 2:50am On Jan 18, 2018

Isnt that Civilian Joint Task Force badge on his chest?

Few days ago police said it arrested some CJTF guys with arms. Is this a sweep to eliminate Benuens trained and armed for defense against Fulani?

Culture › Re: Was Fulani History Truly Bloody? by MetaPhysical: 6:50am On Jan 17, 2018

Fulaman198:
I would say not abnormally so. There were many Fulani nobles that were artists, merchants, aristocrats, scholars (Timbuktu), clerics, etc. Like other parts of History, Fulani history has its good and not so good. However as a whole, the Fulani ethnic group is one of the most renowned in Africa for a reason.

Using the topic of this thread as a backdrop, reference of scope, what is your brand of notoriety in Africa?

Education › Re: Global Alert - Warning About Non-accredited Universities Scamming People. by MetaPhysical(op): 6:36am On Jan 17, 2018

Here is a link from WIKI as well, warning about falling victim for Diploma Mills.
Please read and dont get sucked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mill

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