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The insults being heaped on the Acting President {Yemi Osibanjo} by the igbos since the biafra conference in Abuja has not gone unnoticed and is indeed regrettable. Prof. Osibanjo spoke in his capacity as the Acting President and a member of the Elite in Nigeria and could not have been expected to posit otherwise. It was funny seeing Prof Osibanjo being villified, annihilated and castigated by igbos on this forum who had hitherto taken him as their saviour in the face of alleged hate of the igbos by PMB. The sudden 360 degree turn by the igbos indeed goes to show that they are an emotional bunch who can be tossed around by whatever wind that blows in Nigeria's political atmosphere.

There is an unmistaken realization amongst the elite class of political rulers in Nigeria; those who nominate and install political successors at the center are convinced that Ibo must never again be entrusted with the goodwill of Nigeria. They are very narrow in perspective when put in position to drive social and urban progress. They know how to demolish and destroy, they are not gifted on how to build and sustain. We do not have enough information of their ancestry and antiquity to equip our understanding of who they are as a race, but in the short span of time we have cohabited with them as co-travellers in Nigeria, there has never been a record of good relations or models of inspiration in their ways to apply as a national wisdom...every recall of their touch in our national politics is a marker for shame, regret and retrogression.

They will ruin Nigeria again if they were ever allowed into corridors of power in the center. They must be kept out of inner circle of government, period!

MrAlfa:
Free Ilorin first.

Ilorin was never in captivity.

Lagos is ruled by a Bini throne. Is Lagos in captivity?
Bini is ruled by Yoruba throne. Is Edo in captivity?
Onitsha is ruled by Bini throne. Is Onitsha in captivity?

Ovokoo:
I think it's high time i addressed this foolery that i've been seeing for some years now by ignorant Nigerians.

I really cannot for the life of me why people keep bandying words such like "Accomodating" and "Host" freely without realizing how stupid it sounds. Every Nigerian irrespective of tribe, religion or any form of orientation has the inalienable rights to live in any part of the country that they damn well please.

Nobody is accommodating anybody.So, i wouldn't understand why people keep saying that they're accommodating people from another tribe who are not appreciative of that face. You can't on one hand be fighting or pretending to be fighting for one Nigeria and be claiming that you're accommodating a group. if you don't want to be part of Nigeria, join the fight for Nigeria's separation and stop deceiving yourselves.

Hausas, Igbos, Yorubas or any group for that matter have the right to live wherever they so choose and owe nobody any apology whatsoever. if you have a problem with it, find yourself a new home outside Nigeria. You're not giving anybody food, neitehr are you bathing anybody or providing them water. So, shut it before i slap the taste off your mouth. Like what the hell?

Not True!

Ibos are non-accomodating of other tribes. This means other tribes are accomodating Ibos with their generosity.

Well placed. Ambode must respond to Bash. Out of this is a lesson to be learnt. I thank Bash Alli for speaking up and also for him to know that this powerful statement will improve the due dilligence process at Alausa going forward. Lagos State cannot reverse the damage done but they can establish a methodology and name it "Bash Alli Process for Due Dilligence" and implement statewide against similar error in future.

Every bank deposit of Biafrans that had encountered a transaction whether by deposit or withdrawal was reduced to £20. Massive savings were completely wiped out. Capacity for investment and recovery from the war was shattered.

Please see following for proper perspective. The above quote should not come from someone of Nwodo's caliber and status. He should know better. If he wants his statements to be trusted he needs to stop telling lies to the public.

Ojukwu's lack of management skills is evident in the quotes below. He had no competent hands to advise or manage the fiduciaries and mint, it led to a collapse of the economy and a bankrupt.


If you want to read the whole book go here.... http://www.pjsymes.com.au/articles/biafra.htm

The blockades imposed on Biafra by Nigeria and her allies started to take their toll, and it would seem that the loss of the of bank notes through Hank Wharton’s ‘treachery’ was one of the more telling blows. In his ‘Diary of Events’ for 1 September 1968, Gen. Ojukwu again records – ‘Acute shortage of currency due to Hank Wharton’s Plot.’

In the Biafran towns and cities the shortage of money was one of the many problems people faced.

Banks would go for days without opening because there was no money for withdrawals, and when some was available it was rationed – people being allowed to withdraw no more than one pound a day. Of course the shortage of money was not due simply to the loss of the notes carried by Wharton’s plane, it was due mainly to the near-total withdrawal of Nigerian notes without the Biafran substitute being available.

Although the Central Bank of Nigeria had declared that the old Nigerian currency would no longer be exchanged after 22 January 1968, the trade in old Nigerian bank notes continued well into 1968. It appears that the authorities in Lagos would not release the new Nigerian bank notes in those areas of the Eastern Region which had been liberated from the Biafran ‘rebels’, for fear that a bank full off the new notes may be captured in a counter-offensive. Consequently there were three currencies circulating in Nigeria – new Nigerian notes in the West and North, Biafran notes in the areas controlled by the ‘rebels’ and old Nigerian notes in those areas of the East which had been liberated by the Nigerians. Because the old Nigerian notes continued to be accepted in certain areas, the value of the old Nigerian currency was not entirely worthless.

During the later half of 1968 the Central Bank of Nigeria announced they would exchange up to £30 per person and £500 for commercial enterprises in old Nigerian and Biafran currencies. However in the case of the individual no more than £10 of the £30 could be made up with Biafran notes and in the case of the commercial enterprises the limit was £100. Should any individual or enterprise wish to surrender a greater amount than the stated limits, then this would be done so long as the requests were registered with the exchange control authorities. While the continued acceptance of old Nigerian notes encouraged the continued activities by smugglers, by January 1969 the old Nigerian Pound had become almost unacceptable on the black market, worth only the merest fraction of its face value.

Who is Hank Wharton? Evidently Wharton is not Awolowo. Biafra became financially wrecked through the incompetence of Ojukwu to manage finances and as well the double agent hired by Biafra, named Hank Wharton.

Hank Wharton was an American transport operator who had come to an arrangement with the Biafrans to fly arms twice weekly from Lisbon (Portugal) to Biafra. During Nigeria’s ‘final thrust’ of August 1968 (which proved not so final), Wharton’s planes did not arrive when needed. According to one version, the planes broke down while flying in their cargo, and jettisoned the much needed supply of weapons, and evidently other cargo such as the Biafran bank notes, before returning to Lisbon. Another version states that one plane was forced to jettison much of its cargo, including over half the bank notes it was carrying, into the Atlantic while flying along the coast. The plane was then unable to land in Biafra and had to land in Sao Tome. Another of Wharton’s planes had been destroyed mysteriously in Bissau (in Portuguese Guinea) shortly before this, and another had been impounded in Athens, leading the Biafrans to believe that Wharton had been ‘got at’ by the CIA and the British (who were also working amongst African nations in an effort to stop assistance to the struggling republic). Wharton was subsequently fired and a new supply route established.

What was the financial worth of a Biafran relative to their total bank deposits?

The total value of each series printed, based on the numbers extrapolated, was £50 million for the first issue and £148.5 million for the second issue, making a total of £198.5 million. Many of these notes were not delivered to Biafra, but it is not known how many were successfully conveyed to their destination and how many remained in storage at their point of production. However, at the end of the conflict it was estimated that between £115 and £140 million in Biafran currency was in circulation, indicating that a large proportion of the currency was delivered into circulation. While this amount may seem large, it must be remembered that Biafra had a population of 14 million, and the amount in circulation would equate to £10 per person at the most optimistic estimate.

So were the money tendered by Biafrans exchanged at value point, below point...or above point? Awo paid them at rate of double the value point!

At the end of the civil war there was a critical shortage of the new Nigerian currency, which retarded efforts to replace the currency in circulation in the east. The Central Bank began recalling the Biafran currency and the old Nigerian currency in the war-torn region but, because of the shortage of new Nigerian notes, only receipts were issued to those who surrendered the notes; although during this period of recall it was unclear what rate of exchange would be made for the Biafran notes. Rumours as to what value the Central Bank of Nigeria would place on the Biafran notes became widespread, with many believing one rumour that twenty Biafran pounds would be given the value of one Nigerian pound. Many impatient people surrendered their Biafran notes to speculators who were purchasing them at fifty Biafran pounds to one Nigerian pound. Ultimately the speculators got ‘burnt’, as the Central bank decided that there would be no exchange of Biafran currency for Nigerian currency, deciding instead to pay a flat rate of twenty Nigerian pounds to each depositor of Biafran or old Nigerian currency with the Central Bank.

Here is the link again for those interested in the whole article. http://www.pjsymes.com.au/articles/biafra.htm

ayzTIGER:
He is a hypocrite or he read that script out of fear knowing deep down that he is lying to himself..

Agumbankembu:
It was a sign of concern to me seeing many yoruba zombies, defending the slavish talk their brother regurgitated as basis of nigeria being one, the kind slave mentality those people have is something else. Damn,,,

Don't attack him. He does not have to listen or play to anyone's script. He is doing exactly what a leader in his position must do, and that is speak to the spirit of civic responsibility and loyaty to the sovereingty. He swore to an oath to keep Nigeria one. He has to speak to that and act to it. So he is correct with his assertions. Opponents must raise counter claims and overwhelm his position on the collective destiny.

This is politics, not war! You must use tact and wisdom to win your position against the mighty administration. Force and attacks will get you no where.

One of Obasanjo's sons is married to a girl in Ebonyi.
AP Osinbajo has told us about his aunty married to Ibo

So far we are hearing from people with personal emotions, and funny, they are immune from the travails and suffering brought upon the ordinary citizens whose development and dignity is reta/rded by a continous inequity of pie-share in name of federal character.

Obasanjo's child or grand-child will not loose his/her place in university placement to a Northerner, in the name of federal character.
Osinbajo's child or grand-child will not sit hours in LUTH waiting for medical attention, they will be flown abroad.

We want to hear from those whose lives are directly impacted by the realities of the cake-sharing formula. Their voice should be heard via a referendum!

What political wisdom is Obasanjo using to express these thoughts and inputs?

How did Mohammed Yussuf become a person of interest to government? What claim does he have to compensation, what has he produced to society to earn him a compensation?

I suspect Obasanjo has a lot of explanation to give regarding his involvement in Sharia. Mohammed Yussuf was an outcrop of Sharia North. Was there a funding subsidy that the Obasanjo Administration used to pay off Sharia Clerics in North? Could it be his successor, YarAdua, or perharps, Jonathan, stopped that funding and irked Mohammed Yussuf? Why has Obasanjo been so intent and desperate on mediating this issue?

We need to know.

In his eloquent speech, The Acting President focused entirely on rubbing liniment on a wounded limb. Some wounds can be healed to save the limb, in other cases the wound cannot be healed and the limb must be severed to save the patient's life.

For each of the scenarios of lost aunts and friends, god-son and family friends that touch the Acting President personaly, there are millions of lives in agony and pains resulting from the imperfection and irrecoverable burdens of a disjointed Nigeria. We cannot hold the thread together at seams and keep hoping for a better future as each day, week, month, year, decade roll by and our situation continue to descend from good to bad to worse....and now to despicable!

Its time to severe the limbs and save lives of millions, those few with personal emotional ties across the ethnic lines should find ways to reconcile their ties. Nigerians are married to other nationals across the globe and we have friends spread across the universe, we don't ask to join ethnicity and nationality with them in order that our kinship can bind and unify for diverse growth...we get visa when we need to cross boundaries and visit with relatives and friends in their sovereingties. We are already doing that, so breaking Nigeria into its constituents does not change for us what we are already adept at doing.

I read where some are dismissing her self-piety as foolishness and desperation.

A teenager is very prone to miscalculations, they take risks that are profoundly weird and scary and to the point of self-destruction sometimes. This is why Yorubas say "agba kii wa l'oja, k'ori omo titun wo", meaning "the presence of elders is an antidote that prevents a child's disability".
She kept repeating she had no guidance or anyone to support her. Life challenges and opportunity is a daily encounter, a supporting parent or guidance would be a stabling reference and the offer to go to Libya would not have appeared lucrative for this poor girl who came very close to loosing her life.

Ben is the person that should earn your anger and curse, not this poor girl.

If anyone of you reading this have a connection to this girl or her family, please share with me. This is a very painful story and I commend her for staying strong and believing in her self and drawing motivation in her spirit to survive.

This is a very painful and sad story to read.

Foreign countries benefit greatly in our misfortune. If it appears we are getting ourselves right and correcting the ills in our society, it upsets them because our progress will do two things, 1, greatly reduce the pressure to escape from Nigeria, which diminish cheap labour pool; 2, Nigerians in their countries will also start returning home and abandon the cheap and undignified labour they are forced to take as foreigners. The effect of these two impacts will definitely affect lifestyle and status of living in their country. So to promote and sustain their own status and social upward movement, they destroy ours using different political and treaty tactics called trade agreements and endorsements.

kolafolabi:
Abu Hurairah reported, "The Prophet (saws) said, 'The righteous works that continue to benefit a believer after his death include
the knowledge that he taught and spread among others, a righteous son (children) whom he leaves behind,
or a copy of the Qur'an that he bequeaths to his inheritors, or a mosque that he builds,
or a rest house that he builds for the wayfarers, or a canal of water that he digs for the benefit of others, or a charity that he gives out of his property during his life while he is sound of health.
He will continue to receive reward for all these even after his death.'

From a religious angle...very precise!

High2k:
R.I.P Moji..
Now all these committee nonsense on top this woman burial na wa oo... her colleagues are just looking for an avenue to use her make money shaaa... even in death? tufiakwa... we have seen notable politicians, business men, etc... in this country died, they were quickly buried according to their religious inclinations.. no committee whatsoever, I thought the deceased was a Muslim before her death? why are these hungry colleagues now disrespecting her even in her death, by not following and burying her according to her religious beliefs? Besides, where is her husband? SMH.... it's a shame really... just watch out and see how that money Tinubu gave them will tear them apart eventually....

Bear in mind that the life and legacy you live while breathe is in you will sustain and carry on after you are no longer breathing. If it's a kind and warm legacy those attached to your kindness will be inspired to support your past. We have seen people who nobody knows but in death their funeral process is miles long. Likewise we have witnessed those who were leaders of men die and their funeral is barely the length of a block...

Abacha was in the corridor of power since 1984 and until his death, yet his burial was dry and noboy missed him. Such is life!

Moji's legacy is what you are witnessing...no need to circumspect those who uphold it.

They married at Ikoyi Registry, its likely the woman works in Nigeria. If she had driver, cook, maid, gardener...all those privileges belong to him as well. He can travel with her abroad, go to school abroad, then she can hook him up in good paying job, she can get him credit card with thousands of dollars in spending limit. Their philosophy is different from blackman's. Even she has children, they are not his responsibility and he doesnt have to spend a dime on them if he doesnt want to. Then when she passes he can inherit from her. In the case of death her pension automatically goes to surviving spouse. Her life insurance, which can be in millions, goes to him. Her house, if she has one, goes to him.

To those of you reading above paragraph and nursing ideas, read the disclaimer below.

Whites suffer all kinds of syndrome and conditions that other races do not even know exist. Treatment of these things are usually done using health management; that is, they are incurrable but a process is put in place to keep the patient living with it and get additional years lease on life. Without treatment they could die at 60, treatment can give another15 and they die 75. Nothing in oyinbo land is more expensive than medical and drug prescription. Boy, if you enter hospital, by commission or omission, you allow them to enter your information in computer and fasten patient identification strip round your wrist, you are done! If you immediately waka comot without any consultation or treatment, you owe that hospital 150dollars. So imagine if you get treatment, i hope you have health insurance. Every white person i know has hospital bills from three years or more ago they have not paid off. White people believe in living in debts, they use loan and credit for everything yanfuyanfu. He will inherit that debt too. At her age she will have close to half a million dollars in credit. Because she lives and earns income on foreign soil she still has to pay tax back home. More than likely this woman owe tax back in her country. At death govt can put lien on her estate and force payment on the surviving spouse. By time you add hospital bills, credit card and loan balance, outstanding tax returns with penalty and fees, you are better off taking what you can and relocate back to village. Out of sight, out of mind!

She is sure going to pass the course when the baby come out.

What a dumbo opens her thighs and then carry a baby for 9 months for promise of passing a test! Whats going on in this country? E remain small vulganizer sef go refuse to fix tire for female customer unless they first open thighs for them. Jeezus!!!

Olu317:
I am tempted to disagree with you based on the detachment from what I have been able to see when I was a child and what I have been able to see and read when I became an adult. IFA has 16 codes which must be learned by the apprentice before he can be able to master it all if he is a very brilliant person and if not, it will take longer years. I detach myself because I do like to be a realist despite my genuine attachment to Yoruba tradition. Yoruba, history's attachment didn't preexist Abraham. If it did, how come Egypt is older than Yoruba Race? Do you doubt? No part of Yoruba land was occupied by anyone around 2000BC. Even Igbo ukwu radiocarbon testified to this. So,where do people get their information? Abraham started with the use of RAM as a sacrifice, why did Yoruba have such too? Yes, I have seen some people here trying to deviate from the truth because of the doubt about the impossibility of it being in existence in West Africa. If you claim that IFA, is older than Abraham's, then, where did Yoruba got the knowledge of exhuming dead bodies and reburial in another place? The first that the account was done was Joseph in the Bible. The Yoruba did it too. If you say the words and the codes existed before Abraham because it was all about God. Then I can agree with you but Abraham was through the history of God was made manifest. Moses wrote the Part of the Bible. In fact, part of the Bible specifically mentioned EVA/IFA being part of Mannasah idolatry worshipping when Northern Kingdom of Israel was captured. The idolatry that God referred in the olden days were reckless attachment to things instead of concentrating on God himself. The IFA codes can be learned by anyone because it is all about mastering the words and memorising them. And once any individual have problem(s), the priest is consulted for the solution ,then the relative atonement codes are chanted which will naturally surfaces on the tray used to communicate with the spiritual world . And after this is done, due to to conjuring the words to that effect. Solution aren't farfetched. That's how it is. How then do you think, It existed before Abraham, when in fact ,history of mankind properly begun in the city of Babel when the world's language scattered with different tongues,according to the Bible. Where in IFA CODES DID IT EMPHASISED HOW WORLD LANGUAGE SCATTERED? I am waiting to learn from you my dear brother.

Olu,
Allow me to digress a little and talk about the mechanism of sound production in the mouth.

When you inhale air in the lungs it expands the sacks which causes displacement in the diaphragm and this pushes the stomach to swell. Exhale follows the reverse. We need air to speak. In speaking, air gushes out of the throat (the voice box) but it has no form or accent until it gets in the mouth. The inter-working mechanisms of ear, nose, teeth and tongue uses the air to shape and produce words and accents. If a person looses couple of teeth in their mouth their ability to roll, slip, twist and twirl the air pressure diminishes and it can become difficult to understand them, even though theyve been with us for many many years.

You mentioned African Americans and they have been in America a period of 300yrs and they know no other language but English, yet, their mouth mechanisms work exactly as that of the Black Africans.

I bring this up to dismantle arguments on tonal vs root verbiage and dispell that as a temporary shift not relevant to historical ancestry and etymology of words.

I dont know if it was you or 9jakool relating Araba and Rabbi as non-related. They are cognates and share root.

R equates to celestial and divine
Ori, Orisha, Orun (sky), Orun (sun), Irawo, Aroko, Oro

B equates to reward, birth, that which was in growth and accumulation and manifest in a breakthrough
Ebi (birth), Ebun, Ibu,

The principal letters conveying the phenomenon are R and B, so guess what Araba mean....
That which issued forth from a divine, in other words anointed! This is exactly what Rabbi is.

While Rabbi and Araba are geodistant apart, the ancient use and denotion are colocated.



The whole purpose of man-God relationship is "righteousness".

The vehicle to attain righteousness are varied and thats what the different modes of worship are.

Why righteousness?
Because the template of creation was at one point soiled, and ever since our consciousness has busied itself trying to clean it up...which brings us to atonement.

The rituals of cleansing include animal sacrifice and other things which open the awareness and consciousness, hitherto blocked.

Abraham lived under a divine law. Those laws have the dos and donts. To remain righteous and on the side of divine grace he had to observe those laws. Whatever creeds and laws they were, these formed his worship. But who brought and implemented that practice? Noah.

Adam was referred as the creation of God. Abraham was friend of God. Noah was the righteous of God.

Noah began a new world order of creation, humanity and righteousness. His grandson, Lamurudu began the Yoruba lineage that continued with Oduduwa and the 7 children and 16 grandchildren that today sit on thrones that rule our land.

Some of our divine link to Noah
1 - Omoluabi (Omo Nua bi or Omo Noah bi) which stand for lineage of a righteous people.

2- Aroko to seal contracts - Covenant of the Ark

3 - Sovereingty of land - Release of the dove over water. Ooni performs this rite every year to praise Olokun.

4 - Altar for burnt offering

5 - The use of two of same specie to symbolize a conciliation between spirit and matter. Birth of twins and their cult in Yorubaland.


Some of these were passed down through Abraham to his descendants but majority were learned and acquired in Egypt when Children of Israel were in bondage and also looting the land and temples after sacking the Canaans from their land.


Abraham was also known as anif. Compare to onifa, an adherent of Ifa.

ElGrecco:
You seem to have a great deal of knowledge about the Eyos. I remember growing up in Lagos island, the god-mother for the Bajulayes used to live in our house so the Onikos do come around to pay homage to her. I think there used to be a very tall man called Baluba amongst the Oniko. The Eyo Eti are quite notrorious for causing mayhem back then. If I am correct, the palace for the Eti is somewhere around patty/ freeman which is Akindele stronghold.

This caught my attention. Mayor is correct, there is ranking. Oniko is senior to Bajulaye and should never pay homage to them. What you observed is the reality of interwoven connection among land owner and ruling families on Lagos Island.

The godmother is a daughter of the Onikos, married to the Bajulaye household and the visit is typical for fraternal bonding. The purpose of inter-marriage between ruling families and land owners is to strenghten the bond and unify cause.

Ordinarily, Oniko would never pay homage to Bajulaye, it would never be tolerated. Hope I clarified this enough, Mayor's input is welcome if I missed anything.

Olu317:
The Judaism they practice in Israel IS A REFORMED ONE. NOW, there is a tradition in YORUBA LAND IN WHICH IT IS ENSHRINED “IFA" .The IFA 's knowledge is connected to ABRAHAMIC RELIGION. YORUBA DON'T PRACTICE THE MODERN DAY JUDAISM. BUT THE ANCIENT FORM OF IT. IFA KNOWLEDGE TAKES AT LEAST 16 YEARS FOR ANY APPRENTICE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO MASTER THE WORDS IN SEQUENCE. AND ALMOST 25–30YEARS FOR OTHERS. SOMETIMES, IT MAY TAKE MORE THAN THAT YEARS FOR ONE TO BE ABLE TO MEMORISE THE CODES. YES, LAGOS BELONGS TO YORUBAS ,THE JUDAISM IN PRESENT DAY ISRAEL IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT IN TERMS OF RITUALS AND FEW BELIEFS, IT IS STILL SIMILAR.

Olu,
Ifa preceded Abraham.
How did Abraham worship? How did he perform rites, did he have altar, shrine, temple?

padiga047:
inferiority complex go kill una, we never start fight una don dey shout.

Those who show humility in the beginning, end with the gains at the End! This is the wisdom contained in the phrase, he who laughs last, laughs best!

Against the background of this wisdom, that picture of Jagaban says a lot, does it not?

There is nothing spectacular about the rain. Can anyone mention an Eyo Festival on which the whole day remained dry with no downpour? None!
Conversely, we should be alarmed if it did not rain at all on Eyo Day!

Hati13:
Ok, are there some Yorubas who follow Judaism?

Is your culture nowadays are a mix of Semitic and sub sharan or you have completely forgotten your Semitic culture and are only sub sharan culture?

I've seen here on Nairaland that Lagos belongs to Yoruba. Isn't true?

Let me help clarify the points.

Judaism, Jewish, Israelites are all ideologies and societies that succeeded and descended from NOAH. Judaism is the ideology, Jewish is the worship and Israelites is the race of people associated with that ideology and worship. Yoruba is none of that!

Yoruba itself can be traced back to Noah and shares origin with the people of Semitic tongue. The modern Yoruba tongue has evolved vastly from its ancient usage, and yet, traces of Ancient Hebrew and Mediterranean lexicons and root words are found in it, in exclusion of attributes common to ethnic tongues in the Sub Saharan region.

So picture Yoruba geographically located in a sub saharan region and cohabiting with other negro races but the language and word etymology has root and origination in AfroAsia. This should open the mind to wonder and question the leap from one place to another and the evolution of our nativity.

It is possible that Yoruba may have had its first footprint in its present territory. It is also possible that the first footprint were founded in AfroAsia. No one knows for certain. However, there are artifacts that exist and knowledge that exist and these tangibles can act as "fill-in-the-blanks" to connect and explain the leap.

Yoruba is above Jewish and Ifa is superior to Judaism. We are not of them, they are of us. They claim root to Abraham, we claim root to Noah!

Rarely do I open thread on political discourse, my forte is culture and historical roots. I quite understand the interwoven relationship between politics, culture and history of a people. I am creating this thread to open deep discussion on political claims by Arewa Elders that North is 75% population and land mass of Nigeria. This claim is often associated and branded for ethnic advantage by the Arewa Political body and it goes to say that Hausa/Fulani has thus enshrined itself as the voice and authority of Northern Nigeria, and by extension, the entire Sovereingty of Nigeria. So in this review I attempt to question the ethnic make up of the so called 75% and disrupt the political power embedded in the Arewa brand.

Here is a list of Nigerian Tribes and Their States. There are a total of 372 tribes/Ethnic Groups in Nigeria. Attached is an MS Word Doc containing the list of tribes.


1. Abayon -------- Cross River State

2. Abua (Odual) --------- Rivers State

3. Achipa (Achipawa) ------- Kebbi State

4. Adim ---------- Cross River State

5. Adun --------- Cross River State

6. Affade ------- Yobe State

7. Afizere ------- Plateau State

8. Afo -------- Plateau State

9. Agbo -------- Cross River State

10. Akaju-Ndem (Akajuk) ------ Cross River State

11. Akweya-Yach -------- Benue State

12. Alago (Arago) ------ Piateau State

13. Amo ------- Plateau State

14. Anaguta -------- Plateau State

15. Anang ------- Akwa lbom State

16. Andoni ------- Akwa lbom and Rivers State

17. Angas --------- Bauchi, Jigawa, Plateau State

18. Ankwei --------- Plateau State

19. Anyima --------- Cross River State

20. Attakar (Ataka) -------- Kaduna State

21. Auyoka (Auyokawa) ------- Jigawa State

22. Awori ------- Lagos, Ogun State

23. Ayu ------ Kaduna State

24. Babur ------- Adamawa, Bomo, Taraba, Yobe State

25. Bachama--------- Adamawa State

26. Bachere-------- Cross River State

27. Bada-------- Plateau State

28. Bade-------- Yobe State

29. Bahumono------- Cross River State

30. Bakulung--------- Taraba State

31. Bali ---------- Taraba State

32. Bambora (Bambarawa) ------ Bauchi State

33. Bambuko -------- Taraba State

34. Banda (Bandawa) ------ Taraba State

35. Banka (Bankalawa) -------- Bauchi State

36. Banso (Panso) ------ Adamawa State

37. Bara (Barawa) ------ Bauchi State

38. Barke ------ Bauchi State

39. Baruba (Barba) ------ Niger State

40. Bashiri (Bashirawa) ------ Plateau State

41. Bassa ------ Kaduna, Kogi, Niger, Plateau State

42. Batta ------ Adamawa State

43. Baushi ------ Niger State

44. Baya ------ Adamawa State

45. Bekwarra ------ Cross River State

46. Bele (Buli, Belewa) ------ Bauchi State

47. Beni ------ Asaba, Benin State

48. Betso (Bete) ------ Taraba State

49. Bette ------ Cross River State

50. Bilei ------ Adamawa State

51. Bille ------ Adamawa State

52. Bina (Binawa) ------ Kaduna State

53. Bini ------ Edo State

54. Birom ------ Plateau State

55. Bobua ------ Taraba State

56. Boki (Nki) ------ Cross River State

57. Bkkos ------ Plateau State

58. Boko (Bussawa, Bargawa) ------ Niger State

59. Bole (Bolewa) ------ Bauchi, Yobe State

60. Botlere ------ Adamawa State

61. Boma (Bomawa, Burmano) ------ Bauchi State

62. Bomboro ------ Bauchi State

63. Buduma ------ Borno, Niger State

64. Buji ------ Plateau State

65. Buli ------ Bauchi State

66. Bunu ------ Kogi State

67. Bura ------ Adamawa State

68. Burak ------ Bauchi State

69. Burma (Burmawa) ------ Plateau State

60. Buru ------ Yobe State

71. Buta (Butawa) ------ Bauchi State

72. Bwall ------ Plateau State

73. Bwatiye ------ Adamawa State

74. Bwazza ------ Adamawa State

75. Challa ------ Plateau State

76. Chama (Chamawa Fitilai) ------ Bauchi State

77. Chamba ------ Taraba State

78. Chamo ------ Bauchi State

79. Chibok (Chibbak) ------ Yobe State

80. Chinine ------ Borno State

81. Chip ------ Plateau State

82. Chokobo ------ Plateau State

83. Chukkol ------ Taraba State



84. Daba ------ Adamawa State

85. Dadiya ------ Bauchi State

86. Daka ------ Adamawa State

87. Dakarkari ------ Niger, Kebbi State

88. Danda (Dandawa) ------ Kebbi State

89. Dangsa ------ Taraba State

90. Daza (Dere, Derewa) ------ Bauchi State

91. Degema ------ Rivers State

92. Deno (Denawa) ------ Bauchi State

93. Dghwede ------ Bomo State

94. Diba ------ Taraba State

95. Doemak (Dumuk) ------ Plateau State

96. Ouguri ------ Bauchi State

97. Duka (Dukawa) ------ Kebbi State

98. Duma (Dumawa) ------ Bauchi State

99. Dunuma ------ Yogi State

100. Ebana (Ebani) ------- Rivers State

101. Ebirra (lgbirra) ------ Edo, Kogi, Ondo State

102. Ebu ------ Edo, Kogi State

103. Efik ------ Cross River State

104. Egbema ------ Rivers State

105. Egede (lgedde) ------ Benue State

106. Eggon ------ Plateau State

107. Egun (Gu) ------ Lagos, Ogun State

108. Ejagham ------ Cross River State

109. Ekajuk ------ Cross River State

110. Eket ------ Akwa Ibom State

111. Ekoi ------ Cross River State

112. Engenni (Ngene) ------ Rivers State

113. Epie ------ Rivers State

114. Esan (Ishan) ------ Edo State

115. Etche ------ Rivers State

116. Etolu (Etilo) ------ Benue State

117. Etsako ------ Edo State

118. Etung ------ Cross River State

119. Etuno ------ Edo State

120. Palli ------ Adamawa State

121. Fulani ------ Bauchi, Borno, Jigawa , Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi , Niger, Sokoto, Taraba, Yobe, etc.

122. Fyam (Fyem) ------ Plateau State

123. Fyer(Fer) ------ Plateau State

124. Ga'anda ------ Adamawa State

125. Gade ------ Niger State

126. Galambi ------ Bauchi State

127. Gamergu-Mulgwa ------ Borno State

128. Qanawuri ------ Plateau State

129. Gavako ------ Borno State

130. Gbedde ------ Kogi State

131. Gengle ------ Taraba State

132. Geji ------ Bauchi State

133. Gera (Gere, Gerawa ------ Bauchi State

134. Geruma (Gerumawa) ------ Bauchi, Plateau State

135. Gingwak ------- Bauchi State

136. Gira -------- Adamawa State

137. Gizigz ------- Adamawa State

138. Goernai -------- Plateau State

139. Gokana (Kana) ------- Rivers State

140. Gombi -------- Adamawa State

141. Gornun (Gmun) -------- Taraba State

142. Gonia --------- Taraba State

143. Gubi (Gubawa) -------- Bauchi State

144. Gude ------ Adamawa State

145. Gudu ------ Adamawa State

146. Gure ------ Kaduna State

147. Gurmana ----- Niger State

148. Gururntum ------ Bauchi State

149. Gusu ------ Plateau State

150. Gwa (Gurawa) ------ Adamawa State

151. Gwamba ------ Adamawa State

152. Gwandara ------ Kaduna, Niger, Plateau State

153. Gwari (Gbari) ------ Kaduna, Niger, Plateau State

154. Gwom ------ Taraba State

155. Gwoza (Waha) ------ Borno State

156. Gyem ------ Bauchi State

157. Hausa ------ Bauchi, Borno, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Niger, Taraba, Sokoto, etc

158. Higi (Hig) ------ Borno, Adamawa State

159. Holma ------ Adamawa State

160. Hona ------ Adamawa State

161. Ibeno ------ Akwa lbom State

162. Ibibio ------ Akwa lbom State

163. Ichen ------ Adamawa State

164. Idoma ------ Benue, Taraba State

165. Igalla ------ Kogi State



166. lgbo ------ Abia, Anambra, Asaba, Benue, Delta, Ebonyi, Enugu, Imo, Rivers

167. ljumu ------ Kogi State

168. Ikorn ------ Cross River State

169. Irigwe ------ Plateau State

170. Isoko ------ Delta State

171. lsekiri (Itsekiri) ------ Delta State

172. lyala (lyalla) ------ Cross River State

173. lzondjo ------ Bayelsa, Delta, Ondo, Rivers State

174. Jaba ------ Kaduna State

175. Jahuna (Jahunawa) ------ Taraba State

176. Jaku ------ Bauchi State

177. Jara (Jaar Jarawa Jarawa-Dutse) ------ Bauchi State

178. Jere (Jare, Jera, Jera, Jerawa) ------ Bauchi, Plateau State

179. Jero ------ Taraba State

180. Jibu ------ Adamawa State

181. Jidda-Abu ------ Plateau State

182. Jimbin (Jimbinawa) ------ Bauchi State

183. Jira ------ Adamawa State

184. Jonjo (Jenjo) ------ Taraba State

185. Jukun ------ Bauchi, Benue,Taraba, Plateau State

186. Kaba(Kabawa) ------ Taraba State

187. Kadara ------ Taraba State

188. Kafanchan ------ Kaduna State

189. Kagoro --------- Kaduna State

190. Kaje (Kache) ------ Kaduna State

191. Kajuru (Kajurawa) ------ Kaduna State

192. Kaka ------ Adamawa State

193. Kamaku (Karnukawa) ------ Kaduna, Kebbi, Niger State

194. Kambari ------ Kebbi, Niger State

195. Kambu ------ Adamawa State

196. Kamo ------ Bauchi State

197. Kanakuru (Dera) ------ Adamawa, Borno State

198. Kanembu ------ Bomo State

199. Kanikon ------ Kaduna State

200. Kantana ------ Plateau State

201. Kanufi ------ Kaduna, Adamawa, Bomo, Kano,Niger, Jigawa, Plateau, Taraba, Yobe

202. Karekare (Karaikarai) ------ Bauchi, Yobe State

203. Karimjo ------ Taraba State

204. Kariya ------ Bauchi State

205. Katab (Kataf) ------ Kaduna State

206. Kenern (Koenoem) ------ Plateau State

207. Kenton ------ Taraba State

208. Kiballo (Kiwollo) ------ Kaduna State

209. Kilba ------ Adamawa State



210. Kirfi (Kirfawa) ------ Bauchi State

211. Koma ------- Taraba State

212. Kona -------- Taraba State

213. Koro (Kwaro) -------- Kaduna, Niger State

214. Kubi (Kubawa) ------- Bauchi State

215. Kudachano (Kudawa) ------- Bauchi State

216. Kugama -------- Taraba State

217. Kulere (Kaler) ------- Plateau State

218. Kunini -------- Taraba State

219. Kurama ------ Jigawa, Kaduna, Niger, Plateau State

220. Kurdul --------- Adamawa State

221. Kushi -------- Bauchi State

222. Kuteb ------- Taraba State

223. Kutin -------- Taraba State

224. Kwalla ------- Plateau State

225. Kwami (Kwom) ------ Bauchi State

226. Kwanchi --------- Taraba State

227. Kwanka (Kwankwa) -------- Bauchi, Plateau State

228. Kwaro ------- Plateau State

229. Kwato ------- Plateau State

230. Kyenga (Kengawa) ---------- Sokoto State

231. Laaru (Larawa) ------- Niger State

232. Lakka -------- Adamawa State

233. Lala --------- Adamawa State

234. Lama -------- Taraba State

235. Lamja -------- Taraba State

236. Lau --------- Taraba State

237. Ubbo --------- Adamawa State

238. Limono -------- Bauchi, Plateau State

239. Lopa (Lupa, Lopawa) ------- Niger State

240. Longuda (Lunguda) -------- Adamawa, Bauchi State

241. Mabo --------- Plateau State

242. Mada --------- Kaduna, Plateau State

243. Mama --------- Plateau State

244. Mambilla -------- Adamawa State

245. Manchok -------- Kaduna State

246. Mandara (Wandala) -------- Borno State

247. Manga (Mangawa) -------- Yobe State

248. Margi (Marghi) -------- Adamawa, Borno State

249. Matakarn --------- Adamawa State

250. Mbembe -------- Cross River, Enugu State

251. Mbol --------- Adamawa State



252. Mbube ------- Cross River State

253. Mbula ------- Adamawa State

254. Mbum ------- Taraba State

255. Memyang (Meryan) ------ Plateau State

256. Miango ---------- Plateau State

257. Miligili (Migili) -------- Plateau State

258. Miya (Miyawa) --------- Bauchi State

259. Mobber -------- Bomo State

260. Montol ------- Plateau State

261. Moruwa (Moro'a, Morwa) -------- Kaduna State

262. Muchaila -------- Adamawa State

263. Mumuye --------- Taraba State

264. Mundang -------- Adamawa State

265. Munga (Mupang) ------ Plateau State

266. Mushere ------- Plateau State

267. Mwahavul (Mwaghavul) ------- Plateau State

268. Ndoro ------- Taraba State

269. Ngamo ------ Bauchi, Yobe State

270. Ngizim ------- Yobe State

271. Ngweshe (Ndhang.Ngoshe-Ndhang) ------ Adamawa, Borno State

272. Ningi (Ningawa) -------- Bauchi State

273. Ninzam (Ninzo) ------- Kaduna, Plateau State

274. Njayi -------- Adamawa State

275. Nkim -------- Cross River State

276. Nkum ------- Cross River State

277. Nokere (Nakere) ------- Plateau State

278. Nunku -------- Kaduna, Plateau State

279. Nupe -------- Niger State

280. Nyandang ------- Taraba State

281. Ododop ------- Cross River State

282. Ogori -------- Kwara State

283. Okobo (Okkobor) ------- Akwa lbom State

284. Okpamheri ------ Edo State

285. Olulumo ------ Cross River State

286. Oron --------- Akwa lbom State

287. Owan ------- Edo State

288. Owe -------- Kwara State

289. Oworo -------- Kwara State

290. Pa'a (Pa'awa Afawa) -------- Bauchi State

291. Pai -------- Plateau State

292. Panyam -------- Taraba State

293. Pero -------- Bauchi State

294. Pire --------- Adamawa State

295. Pkanzom --------- Taraba State

296. Poll --------- Taraba State

297. Polchi Habe -------- Bauchi State

298. Pongo (Pongu) --------- Niger State

299. Potopo --------- Taraba State

300. Pyapun (Piapung) --------- Plateau State

301. Qua -------- Cross River State

302. Rebina (Rebinawa) ------- Bauchi State

303. Reshe ------- Kebbi, Niger State

304. Rindire (Rendre) ------- Plateau State

305. Rishuwa ------- Kaduna State

306. Ron -------- Piateau State

307. Rubu -------- Niger State

308. Rukuba ------- Plateau State

309. Rumada ------ Kaduna State

310. Rumaya ------ Kaduna State

311. Sakbe ------- Taraba State



312. Sanga ------ Bauchi State

313. Sate ------- Taraba State

314. Saya (Sayawa Za'ar) ------- Bauchi State

315. Segidi (Sigidawa) -------- Bauchi State

316. Shanga (Shangawa) -------- Sokoto State

317. Shangawa (Shangau) -------- Plateau State

318. Shan-Shan ------- Plateau State

319. Shira (Shirawa) ------ Kano State

320. Shomo ------ Taraba State

321. Shuwa ------- Adamawa and Borno State

322. Sikdi ------ Plateau State

323. Siri (Sirawa) ------- Bauchi State

324. Srubu (Surubu) -------- Kaduna State

325. Sukur ------- Adamawa State

326. Sura -------- Plateau State

327. Tangale ------- Bauchi State

328. Tarok ------- Plateau, Taraba State

329. Teme ------ Adamawa State

330. Tera (Terawa) -------- Bauchi, Bomo State

331. Teshena (Teshenawa) ------ Kano State

332. Tigon ------ Adamawa State

333. Tikar -------- Taraba State

334. Tiv -------- Benue, Plateau, Taraba State

335. Tula --------- Bauchi State

336. Tur -------- Adamawa State

337. Ufia -------- Benue State

338. Ukelle --------- Cross River State

339. Ukwani (Kwale) ------- Delta State

340. Uncinda -------- Kaduna, Kebbi, Niger, Sokoto State

341. Uneme (Ineme) ------- Edo State

342. Ura (Ula) ------ Niger State

343. Urhobo -------- Delta State

344. Utonkong ------- Benue State

345. Uyanga ------- Cross River State

346. Vemgo ------- Adamawa State

347. Verre -------- Adamawa State

348. Vommi ------- Taraba State

349. Wagga ----- Adamawa State

350. Waja ------ Bauchi State

351. Waka ------ Taraba State

352. Warja (Warja) ------ Jigawa State

353. Warji ------- Bauchi State

354. Wula ------- Adamawa State

355. Wurbo ------ Adamawa State

356. Wurkun ----- Taraba State

357. Yache ------ Cross River State

358. Yagba ----- Kwara State

359. Yakurr (Yako) ----- Cross River State

360. Yalla ----- Benue State

361. Yandang ----- Taraba State

362. Yergan (Yergum)----- Plateau State

363. Yoruba ---- Kwara, Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun, Ekiti, Kogi State

364. Yott -------- Taraba State

365. Yumu ------ Niger State

366. Yungur ----- Adamawa State

367. Yuom ----- Plateau State

368. Zabara ------ Niger State

369. Zaranda ----- Bauchi State

370. Zarma (Zarmawa) ------ Kebbi State

371. Zayam (Zeam) ----- Bauchi State

372. Zul (Zulawa) ------ Bauchi State



Courtesy of Nairalander - Phate07

Source - https://www.nairaland.com/download/495046

In the next post I separate Tribes found in the Northern Nigeria from the rest. This will represent the people found in States in the NW, NC and NE regions, and what the Arewa Elders sum as Northern Nigeria. It is worthy of note to also point out that they have rejected the zoning policy and refuse to recognize any zonal sections in their region. This does not call for a counter in the South, but it does reinforce the argument for a ethnic-based restructuring of Nigeria.

The 75% North consist of the following ethnics and their states/lands.

In case it is not clear enough or too small to read, here it is again in clear texts....

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"Edoni" is marked as one of the Obas of Nigeria.


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The Edoni, so says the link there, are a mediterranean people, not an african King!!!!!! 80.109.21.199 (talk) 10:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Revert War
An anon. IP is rewriting the article. Although I have not reviewed everything, I did check into the Edo script. This is not found in the source that anon. used to justify the edit. In fact, it would appear to be a hoax: I have been unable to verify it from any Edo cultural organization. So, unless anon. can provide verifiable references for the Edo script, I can only assume that his edits as a whole are not reliable. I have therefore reverted them pending such sourcing. This has nothing to do with giving the Yoruba primacy, as he seems to think. (Anon. appears to think that I am Yoruba. I am not.) kwami (talk) 00:55, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Here is the link to your HOAX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Oba_of_Benin


Here is the linked story where the lies were told
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oba_of_Benin

AreaFada2:
You mean Ibadan press global position. Only global, Why not planetary position?

You set up a propanganda thread and want to also dictate who can say what on it. Your wet dream here is to have various Yoruba people here telling you "beeni", completely unopposed. Far and wide nobody to to consign your story to the dustbin where it belongs. And massage your gargantuan ego.

No wonder Nigeria never
runs out of tin pot dictators be they in military or civilian gab. There are always budding ones like you. Your dubious intellectualism is complete hogwash. If you think I still have any interest in your pretend academic nonsense, you must be much slower than I thought.

Well agbero tactics is known to be normal to you lot. Because I have been too nice and patient here over the years, you guys began messing up. You all lost any right to nicety from me due to your underhand tactics.

To compare clarity of thought or not, you have to first match the calibre of people I was educated alongside. Not the failed education system I have not doubt churned you out.

To defend Benin? Who told you Benin need defending? Please mind your tongue. You are now also Pontius Pilate?

I am only here to amuse myself now.

Here is a pleasing amusement for you. This is in Wikipedia. The Administrators are pointing to your HOAX about Benin. They already know the game Edos are playing and your penchant to use any means to deny Yoruba colonized you. In fact the guy used a disclaimer to point to his neutrality in case you guys think he is Yoruba and attack him. You are forcing revisions of historical records but truth cannot be altered in the face of GLOBAL awareness. Enjoy the entertainment....

AreaFada2:
Kikikikikiki!

Defend? So you guy consider yourselves some kind of "spanish inquisitors" . Hahahaha.
You guys have no story and you are not in a million years in a position to ask me to defend anything.

I have been too nice here. Taking time to educate you ignorant lot. Since the gang up and silencing, that has stopped. Go and keep reading those your "Dr. Who" Oduduwa papers. And whatever papers you think you have on Edo.


I have no business with your oriki. If you like preach from here to Jericho. You cannot know the history of Lagos monarchy more than a prince of that house.
I know the plan already. To try & deny Benin history. Like a jealous neighbor who instead of acknowledging other's achievement & working hard to achieve same, goes round denigrating & backbiting others.

All the so called evidence you pull out from your an*s are meant to achieve that purpose.

Even if you teleport Oduduwa to come and explain it by himself, It won't impress me.

Let's get this cleared up: I do not consider you lot credible in any way. So reading your papers or answering anything will not happen. Not anymore.

I will only now come to amuse myself at your expense.

No Yoruba person called Areafada to come in here. Areafada stepped in on his own will to defend Bini. If you feel your points are swallowed by the authenticity of this scholarship work, as of course it's expected to be, then you have the freewill to also depart the thread. This thread is the GLOBAL position and academic acceptance of Ile Ife as the origin of 1st (Ogiso) and 2nd (Oba) dynasties of Bini monarchy. The thread is open to people of Edo or Bini background who are interested in clarity on the position of their history. It is not opened for touts, so I encourage you to behave and not insult me in vulgar terms. It is already evident that you lack capacity to clarify the points or discredit the caims made by these scholars.

AreaFada2:
Olu37 or whatever you call yourself, no amount of copy & paste will stir me to take you seriously.

It appears Benin History Denial is your full-time job. Keep posting lies, at least you have to earn your keep.

My respect for all of you including Seun Osewa is gone. Totally gone.

I can now imagine how Benin/Delta people who had enough of Western Nigerian shenanigans and left to form Midwest Region felt.

If you people have any dream of writing Edo people's history, wake up from it. We are not you people that let Arabs, Malians & Hausa-Fulani write your history.

Start defending your history against the truths in these papers authored by Bernadenko. If you need to know who he is, look through the many references I posted and also check him up on internet. One of his sources is Egharevba, a respected historian with solid connection and direct access to the Oba palace.

A stream that cuts off its origin will do what...? Dry UP! You see what is happening to your Bini culture in the past 30years? Steadily decaying. When you reconnect with your origin, Ile Ife, the ancestors will renew your land for you. But whether you reconnect or continue to deny is immaterial, historians around the world agree that Yoruba colonized you and gave you Ogiso and Oba.

Lagos is an extension of the Oba dynasty, and hence a pedigree of Ile Ife royal encestry. If you don't believe me go and read the Oriki of Oba Akinsemoyin 3rd monarch of Lagos and a grandson of Oba Ado, it says it all. The Oriki connects his root with Olofin and ackowledges his background in Bini.

MayorofLagos:
Ok OP im following you now. You dont run from controversial subjects, keep it up, but send me notification so i can jump in and contribute blows.

yes sir, you should already get a notification on my new uploads. No blows, scholarship is on our side. Generations of experts and scholars in different humanities have been studying these two cultures for ages and what they submit is more powerful than a fist blow. It's now up to the Edos to defend their lies or be drowned by the truths.

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