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imhotep:
LOL......some of us need little sleep

Se una go replace the half yellow sun now with star of david? How do you want Igbo Catholics and Igbo Muslims to feel with a jewish symbol?

Ibo Amaka!

Adaibeku:
U would avoid said Eshu metaphysical, no problem truth is truth adighi emeya mgbagha

See me see wahala!

You and Imhotep must be husband and wife. Una no sleep?

Anyway, as i dey prepare for this Imo trip so na hin I say make i learn about Christina people in Mbaise. Na this article jump out from the search.

Great2017:
Your poor logic is really stinking. Why did you not tell Amaechi, Saraki, Tambuwal and all the legislators that have crossed from one party to another while in office to relinquish their positions? You are so fixated on Obaseki. Take it easy before it will lead to a sorrowful situation.

Nobody cared to take them to court. No one tested their validity in court.

If someone had not gone to court Nwosu would have legitimate victory.

Many of you are spectators! You think you are smart but you are not, someone else think for you. You serve as repeater and amplifier for their conclusions.

shachris02:
I've seen a lot of mumu reasoning from this app, but yours bro tops everything. Being an APC member automatically means you have a valid APC ticket? Your mumu too much abeg.

When people of Edo voted for governor, what was printed on the ballot? Was Obaseki's name on the ballot?

Kriss216:
Wetin consign Gbegiri man with history of Igbo

Focus on your history. Dont derail thread.

imhotep:
Nna anyi Eri amaka

Aah ah...You no dey sleep

OP,
Get sense!

In Yorubaland this is not counted as donation. This is facilitation!

- Govt does not donate to public, it facilitates to public.

Come and learn about your progenitor.

Cc
Imhotep
Lzaa
Christina
Alhaja Rekhina
Adaibeku
Amatarasha

Too often, the pre-recorded history of the Igbo is left in the hands of myth-makers who have an agenda to push. For instance, monarchists in Aguleri/Umuleri are claiming that the founder-father of the Igbo, the Igbo Abraham or Oduduwa, is Eri. Are they wrong? Perhaps, not. But are they in any sense historically right? Nope.

They have only assertions, claims, platitudes, not proofs, not triangulations. For instance, they are blissfully ignorant that Eri is a dialectal variation of Eshi, of Ehi. The fact of this is important. Immediately the veracity and logic of dialectal differences are established, as they now are, Aguleri/Umuleri’s claims to being the first port or settlement of Eri is shattered like broken china.

becomes, which is the first in use and in coinage? Is it Eshi, Eri, Ehi, etc? Additionally, their names Agulu-eri, Umu-l-eri give them away. Agulu and Umu have specific meanings and implications in Igbo language. That will be a subject of another book.

Anyway, we are happy to report that it is now established, philologically, by logic and triangulation, that the paterfamilias of the Igbo is Eshi. His dialectal renditions are Eri and Ehi. For record purposes, yours truly is the first to establish this in history.

Below is a relevant excerpt, slightly edited, from my book “Nigeria: The Unreported Genocide against the Igbo: The Generals Murtala Mohammed-Olusegun Obasanjo Diktats.’’ Happy reading:

… Anyway, Kamgbe-Eshi metaphorically means before or since time immemorial in Nkwerre and related zones. However, for a philologist there are other hints. One of which is that Nkwerre people say Oha-Eshi, meaning the crowd/community (of Eshi). Also Nkwerre people would praise sing or name themselves Nkwerre okwara-eshi, meaning Nkwerre first born/male of Eshi.

But the matter is not as simple or exhaustive as this. The other facts are: a neighbouring town bears the name Umu-eshi, meaning children/descendants of Eshi. However, a little furtherer away at Oguta, the Oguta people take pride in their group cognomen; Oguta nwa ama-eshi, which translates roughly as, Oguta, scions of the Household of Eshi. Nkwerre, Umueshi and Oguta are all in Imo State.

More interestingly in Anambra, some towns are named: Ora-eri/people/community/crowd of Eri, Umu-leri/heirs/children of Eri, agulu-eri/of the out compound or outpost of Eri.

From all these the following are generally clear for what they mean for the Igbo. Umu/oha/agulu mean children/heirs – crowd/community/multitude – compound/outpost. The mystery is what does Eshi or Eri mean, are they not depicting one reality? Are the differences not only dialectal? Our answer is yes. Eshi and Eri are not synonyms. They are one and the same word varying only dialectally.

The fact of this is given out by the following philological revelations. In Nkwerre, phrases like: kamgbe oleshi ka mu nagi huru? /meaning since when did we last meet? – are a staple. Even more telling is, in the Anambra zone the phrasal equivalent is: Eri-ngbe-nine ka anyi fulu. Its dialectical meaning is that Eri is of the beginning or a point in time. So for an overwhelming swathe of the Igbo, time counts from Eri/Eshi.

In Mbaise and Mbano areas of Imo State, the same question is asked as: Ehi olengbe ka anyi huru? The greater point is that Mbaise and Mbano stretch is the heartland of the Igbo. The Igbo autography is built around their tongue.

When you add up the Igbo who use Eshi, Eri, Ehi as a metric of time, the overwhelming numbers explode. More interestingly, the use of Eshi, Eri, Ehi, Eli is not within any one restrictive belt or region of the Igbo nation. It is as far apart as Oraeri/Umuleri/Aguleri/Asaba/Delta Igbo in present Anambra to Delta States; Nkwerre/Umueshi/Oguta zones Nwamaeshi/kamgbe; Ehi in the sprawling Mbaise/Mbano zones which butts into Abia State. These areas are random, unconnected enough, they don’t constitute a lineage or a sub-group Igbo. That is the phenomenon of Eshi, Ehi, Eri, Eli and other dialectical variants may be easily deemed to be pan-Igbo. That is Mbaise/Mbano, Oraeri/Umuleri/Aguleri/Asaba do not constitute a sub-clan of the Igbo.

However the conjugation of verbs goes, in the above examples among the various Igbo, the point remains that Eshi, Ehi, Eli or Eri signifies time, actually a point in time. And these same Eshi, Ehi or Eri is also used severally to signify a certain human being as in son/umu, compound/agulu, followers/crowd/oha of Eshi, Eri. And it is used in the line of a paterfamilias, a founder father. And in Nkwerre there is specificity to it: okwara eshi – the first born of Eshi. Therefore, the phenomenon or object that is Eshi, Ehi or Eri was a man, a paterfamilias. The fact of this paterfamilias is acknowledged universally by the Igbo as we have illustrated by the prefix of umu/okwara/oha prefixing Eshi, Ehi or Eri scattered all over Igbo land. That is Eshi, Eri etc. was one common founder father universally acknowledged by the Igbo.

Our contention is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri, who is the same person though dialectally variant, was metaphorised into representing time, a point in time past, time lost. That is, Ora-eri in Anambra State and Oha-eshi in Nkwerre Imo State mean one and the same. They only suffer dialectal differences. However, since the words Oha, Ora, Eshi, Eri are all common Igbo words, pan-Igbo assets, there is no immediate suggestion that Oraeri people and Nkwerre people are direct cousins, though that can’t be ruled out. By the way, both Oha and Ora are dialectal variants of one reality, crowd/community.

Our point is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri is used in the same dialectical sense in which Christ says Before Abraham I am. That is, Abraham was more than just a father. He was the first patriarchal father and thus a big and decisive point in time; times ancient and perhaps lost. So, “Before Abraham I am,” is the Jewish equivalent of kamgb-eshi, eri-ngbe-nine, a metaphorical flashback to the beginning of time for a people. It means in the beginning of time/I have ancient provenance or in the ancestry of time/time past. More, we have formal time marking equivalents like since, 1. The birth of Christ, 2. The Hegira/the emigration of the nascent Muslim community led by the prophet. Also, one commonly encounters diverse Igbo communities speaking: kamgbe nna anyi ha/eri [ngbe] nna anyi fa/ehi mgbe nna anyi ha. These are dialectally same, meaning since our [more recent] fathers. “Since our fathers,” is generic equivalent of the “since” specificity in the case of the Igbo paterfamilias, Eshi, Eri, Eli, Ehi. And it is universally used in Igbo land to authenticate a tradition, that is that our fathers instituted this practice. The Jewish equivalent, for example, would have been, it is a practice founded by their patriarchs.

Simply, it is universally human to date an era from its big events or its big founders or characters, like fathers and patriarchs. Kamgbe eshi/ehi/eri/eri mgbe niine, is thus in universal character.

What a philologist or historian can thus deduce is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri is a factual paterfamilias, but now preserved and mythologised into metaphors. However, the fact of his being a founder father is generally accepted in Igboland even without awareness. Anytime you ask eshi/ehi/eri olengbe, you are recognising a fact of your founder ancestor being Eshi, Ehi or Eri.

Also, there are no hints Eshi, Ehi or Eri was or considered himself a king. There are no records of special attributes to him save the honour of the Igbo being his progeny. So, Eshi, Ehi or Eri was essentially a republican guy and left his progeny a heritage of universal equality. And that was even before the Americans founded something similar for themselves. Or it is feasible that what happened to the Igbo is similar to the experience of Alexander the Great. When Alexander died, he left no instructions and his heirs decided on what to do with the empire. If that is the case for the Igbo, it was to go republican, to go democratic, to scatter powers and never concentrate it.

We also conjecture that Eshi, Ehi or Eri was something of a scholar first and patriarch next. He was such as one who left his home and the lake of his home in search of freedom and universal truths. So, the Igbo founding is founded in the search, not in settlement, in the growth not in the freeze. And kingdoms or concentration of powers are antithetical to these. Igbo Ronu.

So, Eshi of Nkwerre etymologically and philologically means and meant father of Nkwerre, not king, not Eze Nkwerre, for instance. This does not mean that the philological Eshi as father cannot be conscripted by power mongers in the guise of traditional rulers. There is no harm in that partisan ambition. But it behoves scholars in search for truth not to be confounded by the princes of greed in their hunt for power. Ahiazuwa.



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Adaibeku:
labia boylover

Adadiorama I of Ibekuland

shachris02:
Here is the actual supreme court judgement on Uche Nwosu. Note the bolded part.



From the ruling, the court stipulated that since Uche Nwosu already had a valid Ticket of the All progressive Congress (APC) he cannot in due faith contest under another party.

Back to Obaseki, did Obaseki at any point obtain a valid ticket to run under APC? No.

Obaseki in last election ran for office under APC. So he is currently on APC ticket. In order to escape Nwosu's fate, Obaseki must resign membership from APC. He must also resign from Governorship under APC mandate. If he continues the APC mandate for the term and campaigns under PDP, this will end up a double membership. Its okay if he is not challenged in court....but if he is he risks loss.

VirginSearcher:
Have they finished arresting all the criminal politicians like Tinubu, Rochas, Uzodinma, Amosun, Ganduje n El Rufai foolish EFCC

I wonder how many times the name Tinubu trend online.

imhotep:
How is our Igbo first lady doing

Awful! She don take her loud mouth dabaru everything.

Adaibeku:
Excuse me ,I don't friend prostitutes , u n ur Christiana gbakwa oku, leele

Oba ghatokpee isee!

Na my gehfren you dey call prostitute? Are you insinuating that my upcoming trip to Imo na to go meet prostitute?

Christina is a graduate fa, finished youth corps two years ago.

Chei Chineeke!

Adaibeku is jealous of Christina's curves.



Dont forget...vote Yoruba woman First Lady in upcoming election in Ondo.

Enyimbafc:
But in reality,what we see all over Nigeria is how yorubas import the largest skull and human part goods all over the country.But NBS and NAIRALAND says otherwise.

You are very useless! Wallahi!
Useless tout!

Adaibeku:
Edo people oba otampaye iseeee
Oba otampaye iseeeeeeeeeee
Iyeeee...Biko if una see Mouth odour from bourdillon in d great land of oba ovarenmen pelt him up

Edo will be great again, pelt obaseki if he dosent perform well in bini,esanland in 2months after he is elected,
That's wat osanobua ur creator who isn't jehovah told me 2days ago in my trance, he weeps 4 his creations

EDO IS NOT LAGOS

Imhotep lzaa Amatarasha metaphysical rekhina (S.A.W)

Ahh ah, when did you compose this nonsense? Where was i? I must have been on the phone with Christina at the time and didnt see. That girl is on my mind day and night. I cant wait to arrive Owerri and hold her.


See you otampaye mouth.
Oba ghatokpee, Isee!

Stop mentioning Edo, they are slaves to Benin and Yoruba.


Christina want know if you dey town.


Dont forget to vote Yoruba woman FIRST LADY in Ondo.

Omoluabi16:
hehehe. my brother Na eko I dey. YOu talk about rescuing he government and IGR, the government are even worse when it comes to issues like this. stadiums..beaches..infrasrucures abandoned and left to rot.If we need to manage these things well.

The govt has too much going, they are overwhelmed.

Ahhh,, Why?

Lock down never end and tha palliative still never reach my side.

Oga governor, when i go get my eba and egusi nau? No die o.

On the topic, Interpol did not think deep about this. Their action can turn Iran into a sanctuary for fugitives wanted by states.

Interpol ought to have known that Iran is not truly interested in a substantial arrest, this was only a token to register their displeasure and symbolize it at diplomatic level. Nothing more!

Interpol misstepped here! How does Iran hope to arrest Trump, its impossible.

Adaibeku:
metaphysical warn this babe ,or I will show her that am d she-devil, she is a 23yr old babe who thinks she can disrespect me

Is she in Imo? I can effect the warning better in person.

JONNYSPUTE:
....Good morning folks. Sure we are all good and managing the effects of pandemic well?. To God be the glory.

This is going to be long because I will want us to read and understand it very well before commenting. Reason is because any decision taken is going to affect both myself,my immediate family members, extended and the entire community.

I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king (Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

I'm confused here. N B. My wife is aware of all this.

Thanks.

Please bring this to front page cause I'm no longer myself. So many sleepless nights and selfish advices from the elders in my community. I really need to hear the truth from people I don't know.

Igbo enwe Eze!

Igbo has no king!

Why is Mankinde competing with a dead man. Should he not be concerned with the living?

Why are Makinde's fans bashing a grieving family?

The wife was out of line. So? Now she cannot grieve in peace.

Bunch of church rats!

Dansuqi:
How did he put him there? The polls were free and fair

The free and fairness is getting ready to repeat.


Put Yorubawoman as FIRST LADY in Ondo.

Cc
Adaibeku

Omoluabi16:
Exactly What I was discussing with someone today. Government should simply reposses any house that is unoccupied for particular time. My place here, there are some unoccupied houses pushing 10 years.

Which kind omoluabi you be?

My brother, give me location of these properties abeg . We are supposed to be true omoluabi and rescue government when they have too much load to manage.

Lets help improve igr to Oyo purse. Abeg tell me something about these properties.

fairfora:
When Governor Makinde took office, he was said to have discovered massive fraud perpetrated by his predecessor's government and called for an in-depth investigation. One of the Late Ajimobi's assets under investigation is the Agodi 's Mansion. Here's the video of the Mansion( below).

I wonder what the man still wanted at 70. Our politicians are super greedy. Awaye malo kan ko si...which literally means everyone born of man must die, wondering why they still keep amassing so much even at old age as if they would live forever. This man wasn't an investor, neither was he a businessman. The money used belongs to the Oyo People. This was one of the reasons the party's supporters never liked what makinde is doing to their man.

VIDEO: Controversial Ajimobi Mansion That Led To Clash Between Family And Oyo State Government @oyostategovt @seyiamakinde @AAAjimobi
WATCH FULL VIDEO: https://t.co/AIIM4T4ySZ pic.twitter.com/wW3x8oDhCQ

— Sahara Reporters (@SaharaReporters) June 29, 2020

Stop supporting politicians. You are talking of Mankinde as if there will not be some controversy when he completes his term.

Do you know any politician that doesnt chop yam? Stop supporting one against the other. Bash their policies and their idiosyncracies...but dont hate one and love the other. They are all thieves....na their degree differ.

Adaibeku:
12 odogwumbem cemetery
Okoli road old owerri road

See you!

What kind of address be dat?

Adaibeku:
I go soon deal with u,
Am not rekhine

I dey come east soon. Give me ya address?

Adaibeku:
U have no single shame denrele is their no beggars in America?, Amatarasha u even call up n down,do u know wat she does?
Beware of great igbos n don't tow the wrongpath of metaphysical ,area4area n minorityopinion

Cc lalasticlala
Dominique

Rule no2 violated

Se na me dey tow wrongparh?

DenreleDave:
U nko, what are u doing upandan s

Ur brother posted abt yoruba, shebi u were insulting us join

Now its ur time, u r advising... Go to gr**e with ur advice...

U want me to watch while u guys heap lies upon my tribe to make them. Look bad... Never

Adaibeku wants you to herself.

I need to hurry to Owerri and back before Ileya. I nor wan do Eid for kafiri land.

This Owerri they make noise about I go see am soon.

Vote for Yoruba woman as FIRST LADY in Ondo.