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SmellingAnus:
nah... But that single question is part of the entire post...

So do you acknowledge the rest of the post or not?

zeeprince:
why waste ur time explaining to him it's not like the maulud is a central figure in Islam so why compare it to Christmas

Exactly, why waste your time talking about Christmas when you people argue and slaughter each other over almost everything

How many shia Muslims hold a position of power in Saudi government? If you people are so united?

How many ahmadiyya Muslims have been murdered in the past decade

zeeprince:
We are u saying he is not around when it was written and yet u ascribe it all to him?

What are you saying? Was Mohammad around when Ibrahim was asked to sacrifice his son?

Do you ascribe that stuff in the Quran to him?

zeeprince:
it's one thing to be similar and another to be the same �.. if the Bible keeps on changing over time then it's not worthy to guide you to God.. you never can tell the devil might have added his own to it�

How do you know the devil didn't add his own to the Quran?

Who was there with the prophet (saww) in the cave when he received the revelation

How can you call Quran a worthy guide to God when you have no idea where the revelation came from?

Olamilekxy:
what I mean is dat jesus didn't know anything about the bible (the word of God ) it was after his lifetime dat some his followers make it. then why you people call it word of God or the holy book?

note =u didn't answer the question I asked about the verse isiah 54:17

Why are you repeating the same thing I just wrote to you?

How can he acknowledge it when he's not around

What do you want to know about Isaiah 54:17, the meaning is quite clear.

Isaiah 54:17 (NIV): 17no weapon forged against you will prevail,
and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
and this is their vindication from me,”
declares the LORD.

Olamilekxy:
okay

but yet u can compare it to Christmas that some Christian group condemn it, cos the Sunni and Shia do celebrate but different time and the interval of the day always be between one or two days, and for Mawlid if any Muslim group celebrate it is not a sin and if some group didn't celebrate it also they didn't commit a sin. though some people condemn it cos prophet didn't celebrate it during his life time .

You're just repeating yourself, the point is that if you have a disagreement in Islam then you should face it instead of picking holes in Christianity.

You just said that if you celebrate milad innabi it's not a sin then straight away you admitted that some people say its a sin. You see how you're confusing yourself?

Your own religious festivals are not perfectly celebrated the same way between sects so what gives you the right to start snooping around Christians??

Why do Sunni celebrate eid on a different day from shia? Why do shia flog and beat themselves on muharam?

Sunnis follow abu bakar yet shia don't like him, Sunnis like Aisha and shiaa say she was the worst wife of the prophet (saww) so you people always disagree and condemn each other about everything yet you still get mouth to talk about Christians, does it make sense

Influential101:
These are the people who did a better thing.. Instead of involving the police and rescuing your relative alive first.. You were busy going back and forth with GUO.. Flexing your media power.. SMH

Youre focusing on the wrong thing. Hes not the one whos supposed to be calling the police. Its the company who was supposed to do that and relay the information back to the families

They dont have good customer care at all. Nobody expects them to bankrupt themselves due to kidnapping that wasnt their fault but they could at least be considerate since the incident happened while the person was in their care

joyandfaith:
Most companies are interested in their public image then welfare of their clients. GUO should have informed the next of skin immediately and be working out strategies with relatives to rescue victims

Exactly. The money is not even the point but how they treated them. If its their own relative they wouldnt be acting like that

NwaAmaikpe:
Do you know that if it was only you that your relative had, he'd probably be dead now while you'd have only succeeded in a viral smear campaign.

Next time life is involved, please use your head.

While at it, grow some conscience too.
To think you expect a transport company to dole out 1million as ransom for a passenger who probably paid less than 5k.

Ask yourself if you'd do the same if you owned GUO.

People are hailing you.

I usually try to read your posts impartially; on this one I would say you are half right.

He should have gotten in touch with the police sooner in a double-pronged approach with the "Press" stuff.

But youre wrong to remove blame from GUO; nobody is asking them to fork out millions but they should at least be decent when dealing with distraught relatives.

The way they tried to dismiss him was the reason he started all the television stuff so blaming him for his response is unfair.

SmellingAnus:
sweetheart I am making much sense... She is a chronic heart breaker, she is supposed to be more concerned about addressing that part of her instead of asking a dumb question " if she will regret it " when it's obvious she will regret it... I am surprised that question didn't sound stupid to you...

So you ignored the entire post she wrote and fixated on that single question?

The transport company did badly with their attitude which is why the situation escalated.

It was them who were supposed to call the police and not the independent relatives.

Transport companies are supposed to have an administrative arm that deals with emergencies.

So you were right to hold them responsible but unrealistic not to pursue an alternative pathway when you realised how lackadaisical they were being.

If they had called you and said "the passengers have been kidnapped and we are currently working with the police; please come for an emergency meeting so we can discuss further" instead of being cagey when you reached the office, it could have been different.

If they didnt collaborate with anybody to hijack their own bus, why were they hiding and concealing with Igbo

SmellingAnus:
sure.... From her topic she asked a question if she will regret it... Remember I told you that her major fear is more about if she will regret her actions... She is more concerned about not regretting her actions than fixing he unstable self... Will you be happy to be in a relationship with a guy that is about to dump you for no fault of yours rather because he is a chronic heart breaker.

You are not making sense. So why do you think shes asking us if she will regret it?

Do you regret in a vacuum?

Whats the context for the regret if not her instability which she has clearly laid out for us to read?

And why havent you given her the advice she requested? You would rather castigate somebody who has already castigated herself and make irrelevant comments than advise the person or what?

Michellekabod2:
kindly ignore them...if it was within my powers will i seek for help in this thread?or they dont understand the pain i feel when i lose someone due to this issue. It seems so easy to tag it "dumping"

Lol! I dont understand it.

You used your own monicker and you literally said at the beginning "this is all my fault". What else do they want?

You literally came with your palms facing upwards, honestly asking for advice and instead of them to take in your situation and advise you theyre still twisting the whole thing to compensate for what happened to them personally smh

Even the dude who blasted you at the beginning had some kind of logical process as to why he did it. They cant even do that one! They would rather yarn feminism, shiloh, dumping etc with no reference to what you actually said

chigoizie7:
Most times I just let go,

I think it is being selfish on my part.

I had one who understood and willing to always stay.

But it is just not fair, I mean, how can you get someone hanging just because you are having a mood swing? That is being inconsiderate.

Nobody is perfect, if its not mood swings it will still be something else. If somebody says she can take you like that, allow her

adonainana:
The MFM insinuation is the rhetoric the topic was on in the sense "dont eat all over the place " so the devil will not plant thing sin your life such as sickness, bad luck, unemployment, lack of marriage etc the normal things every one faces day in day out. So my point is Nigerian would rather listen and obey all these rhetorics by these so called man of God because it is the most obvious solution to the obvious missing link in their life problems.

Tropical climate as nothing to do with increased standard of living- There are some countries such as Ecudaor, argentina, costa rica, south africa, all they do is just produce agricultural produce. Even the basic crude way of farming would get the job done.

Your weather as a country has nothing to do whether the country will be wealthy and highly educated. There are some countries that only live on agriculture and are way way much more prosperous than Nigeria.

Nigeria problems is just simply mismanagement of state and valuable resources for decades upon decades. I even think there is a direct ln between the growth of petencostal churches and the poverty in Nigeria

Yes. But what Im saying is that the obvious reason is due to lack of infrastructure that doesnt allow enough jobs to be created which we can clearly see so I dont see how the person gets sucked into destiny changer before considering the glaring facts.

Do you have data to watch a short youtube video? Because you need to understand that climate and agriculture is literally one of the main reasons why Africa is totally different to other places.

Basic way of farming wastes time and energy that could have been used to be productive in something else. Even if it gets the job done its not efficient enough.

yes! Nigerians problem is bad management of resources so what I want to know is why you can totally understand that but other people must think theres a destiny changing meat in their stomach, even if there might be why is that their first answer?

I dont know, I think pentecostal churches have made their own contributions even though I dont necessarily agree or believe in them. They have helped some people where Orthodoxy hasnt. The problem is that they have become so fanatical and extreme that they are now caricatures of their original selves.

Olamilekxy:
okay
but did you mean that jesus didn't acknowledge bibble cos from ur story you said it was *recorded by different hunmas, witnesses and corresponding stories*

stop comparing bible to quran, there are so many mistake in bibble unlike quran, what's in verse 1 of quran in Nigeria will correspond with the one in Japan or any part of the world without a single mistake of alphabet or numeric mention in any chapter. Christine call dem self son of God ba? go to isiah 54:17 and explain Wats d meaning cos I don't seems to understand, and so many more .

from yr write up self you mean bible was a collection of many writers, is bible a novel or history book dat some writers will come together to write? that's why @iamstranger said bible was writing by Romanians bmto deceive many people.

What do you mean "Jesus didnt acknowledge the Bible"? Does he need to physically say the words "I acknowledge the Bible"? When some of it was written after he was already gone

Just because the Qur'an is the same all over the world, it doesnt make it true. You can make the same mistake all over the world so thats not relevant

Olamilekxy:
nobody witness it, but dey know dat prophet went to cave and stay der for some days and when he came back he explained what happened to him in the cave to is followers.

note =not all the quran was reveal to him when he was in the cave, some were after the cave

Lol So which one is more reliable?

The one from one person in a cave or the one from several different people who all said the same thing, sometimes without even meeting each other for once

adonainana:
I dont believe Africans are unfortunate, and certainly tropical climate as absolutely nothing to do with it. Because the Carribean is tropical afterall.

I think it inherently boils down to the basics of just being generally intrinsically misinformed about life and the standard of living of africans never really did or has mitigated the circumstances.

You could be in Nigerian and be educated very well and no job, who would you believe MFM pastor telling you its because of what you ate last xmas that is the cause of your unemployment or National Buerueu of Statistics reasons for you being unemployed.

So its a difficult situation sometimes to navigate

Tropical countries have worse agriculture due to lower rates of photosynthesis and less availability of livestock. This has a knock-on effect on ability to move on from crude techniques and develop technology. As in when are we going to get out of this

yeah, you could be jobless and well-educated but why doesnt the person chalk it up to bad policy and infrastructure, which is what the problem actually is? How did MFM come into it, thats what I cant understand

Olamilekxy:
okay
but did you mean that jesus didn't acknowledge bibble cos from ur story you said it was *recorded by different hunmas, witnesses and corresponding stories*

stop comparing bible to quran, there are so many mistake in bibble unlike quran, what's in verse 1 of quran in Nigeria will correspond with the one in Japan or any part of the world without a single mistake of alphabet or numeric mention in any chapter. Christine call dem self son of God ba? go to isiah 54:17 and explain Wats d meaning cos I don't seems to understand, and so many more .

from yr write up self you mean bible was a collection of many writers, is bible a novel or history book dat some writers will come together to write? that's why @iamstranger said bible was writing by Romanians bmto deceive many people.

How many people witnessed the meeting between the Prophet [saww] and Jibreel?

I will answer after you answer that

SmellingAnus:
sweetheart stop trying to manipulate me to come over your side

I wish the guy was on Nairaland going through our comments

Can you link your comments back to what she said in her OP or not?

unbitchable:
Did you have a head count that a good number of his critics ain't Muslim Egyptians?
imagine a country where a small number of Christians are being persecuted, some are fleeing to the West. Can it be any less unbelievable.

No, I do not have a headcount and maybe a good number of those people are Egyptians who join in persecuting Copts but my point was that its not like it would be unheard of in his country to felicitate with a Christian which is the way people writing are making it sound. Just like most people cant believe that Iraq has indigenous Christians

SmellingAnus:
Sweetheart it's obvious both of us are biased... While you are tending towards giving the Op which happens to be a female a favourable piece of advice, I am more interested in giving her man a favourable piece of advice...

No dear, I am giving her realistic and objective advice based on the information she provided in the OP while you are purposely warping and twisting what she wrote in an attempt to rubbish her out of some misplaced loyalty to the guy who hasnt posted anything here! Does it make sense?

You wont put herself in her shoes as the person seeking help but would rather indulge your own emotions and machinations that have almost nothing to do with what we are discussing and keep leading you to a faulty conclusion

If you can link all these things you keep writing back to what she actually said and not your own experiences then I can take you seriously. All you keep repeating is that she will still dump the guy, she must still dump the guy which is out of the point, isnt it

adonainana:
The only difference is the mentality and mindset, There is nothing special about british people, chinese people, people from thailand, people from anywhere on the planet. The same death everyone experiences they do too, the same afflictions, disappointments in life.

Absolutely nothing different except the mindset and the illiteracy plus poverty plus lack of exposure which are the things which have made the difference which results in MFM teachings such as dont eat this, dont do this etc

I think so too but what do you think of the studies that show that Africans are inherently unfortunate due to tropical climate?

chigoizie7:
Thank you.

Someone said most of the times. Introverts disconnects to recharge.

Yeah. I think the key is making an effort to accommodate another person into your space and getting somebody who doesnt take the "moods" personal

OTayobami:
I am not trying to say that it is not important to be spiritual but what i am trying to say is that prevention is better than sacrifice you mug!

What prevention? How come all we ever hear coming out of that church is curses upon curses?

Cant he tell people to try not to quarrel in the village this Yuletide in the spirit of Christ, be safe on their journeys, try to give food or clothes to suffering people in the holiday period I mean real practical advice that we need to hear not every time destiny killer destiny changer

Abeg he should just take a break for once, this is Christmas

unbitchable:
How significant are the Coptic Christians who are going through a tremendous scale of persecution & gradual brutal murder from the Muslim majority

Yes, they are persecuted but what I mean is that talking to an average Egyptian person its not like they will find the idea of Christmas or having a friendly interaction with a Christian so unbelievable like those instagram people are trying to force onto him

chigoizie7:
Really?

That is so sad.

Man ain’t getting any younger.

It still worries me

You will be fine, friend

SmellingAnus:
I only have advice for the guy unfortunately he is not the Op... My dear life is already too complicated ... Why should I deliberately add more complications to an already complicated institution called relationship/marriage... I honestly feel for the guy cos he looks set to be her next victim ... May he find someone better after he has been dumped by her...

Lol so your point is that what? The guy is not here! Why didnt you wait for him to open a thread first

Give her advice on her problem since you said you were once in the same shoes, not just to doom her to perpetual failure when shes clearly looking for answers and solutions.

What is the point of all this stuff youre writing exactly because Im sure if somebody answered you like this after you opened up about your personal issue, you wouldnt really like it

SmellingAnus:
exactly my point , even those that are emotionally available, it's not so easy or a guarantee that it will last long not to talk of this very unstable person that is already looking for how she will dump the guy but her major fear is if she will regret her actions ...

And yet some emotionally available people are roving from pillar to post and some crazy people have a partner who adores them.

Youre just looking at it through a negative lens instead of being objective. Its like youre only reading half of her post...?

Yes now! For her to consider whether she is making a mistake or not by offering her problem up for advice shows that she has potential.

Before making a decision dont you fear whether you are going to regret or not? I dont see anything wrong with being honest about your flaws and asking for help so you declaring that she has no hope because she has a problem is uncalled for.

Or what advice do you actually have for her because I havent seen anything apart from negative forecasts from you so far?

She will just die alone right?

SmellingAnus:
of course they are different but she has a serious issue and she is obviously trying to use the guy to help her over come her issues... I have been on this road both at the receiving and giving end... It's not a good situation for the other party... That's why I maintain that I can't even imagine myself in such situation like the guy... Las Las she go most likely still dump the guy...

You are talking from a place of bias because youre already jaded from the past.

As I said before, some people are difficult to love but thats not the same as being impossible to love.

Its not only well-balanced and emotionally available people who get into lasting relationships. We have to advise her according to the situation she has laid out for us already and not as if she's perfect or superhuman.

Telling her that shes going to dump the guy anyway is not helpful. Telling her that shes okay the way she is isnt helpful either. What is helpful is analysing her behaviour and advising her on what she needs to change about it to get a different result.

She just needs a realistic roadmap from point A where she is now to point B which is a working relationship. She doesnt need to transform herself into an emotional Yogi master for that to happen.

Youre saying "use the guy to overcome her issues" but let me ask you; what is a relationship if not another word for "using"? Any relationship between 2 people is those 2 people gaining some kind of satisfaction and development from each other so as far as the guy is not complaining and is ready to undergo some of the stress that comes with being with a difficult person I dont see anything like "using" here as long as she puts in an honest effort on her end.

SmellingAnus:
The guy is currently at her mercy.. if misbehaves a little she will definitely get the excuse to leave him forgetting that he has been such a sweetheart to her... That is the problem associated with relationships where one person forces himself/herself to be with the other...

Thats why I said that she has to restrain herself from following that pattern if she wants the relationship to last.

Forcing yourself to be with somebody because youre trying to overcome your own personal issues is different from forcing yourself to be with somebody even though you dont actually like the person, which is what you are describing.

She said she likes him a lot so what youre talking about is different