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Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 1:40am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
Post pics of the ppl you're talking about? It better not be shuwa arabs either grin

Lool...I'll rather be an insensitive warrior than be ashamed of my features and say pointing out black features is racist. Cheers mate.

Neither are your kind new either. I'm sure you're all about the 'hotep hotep" and claim Nigerians came from ancient Egypt or israel
Did every single person you saw during your visit have a flat nose and thick lips?
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 1:25am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
That's your business if your afro is blown out. Why did you feel the need to say that?

Why haven't you answered me? Wouldn't it actually be racist if I said blk women look better in weaves?

Cos girls in weaves are a poor imitation and don't suit us. Black women are fooling nobody.

If its afro textured hair, it suits us better.


THIN lips and STRAIGHT noses are not features of black people.

And you however sound like those black ppl that want to incorporate every dark-skinned non- black person in your group so you can steal their features and claim their history cos you are ashamed of black ppl just as they are. Some of you go as far as claiming arabs and indians.

I know your kind
The silly girl doesnt even understand irony.

I ask again, if youve already explained it then why are you repeating it?

Im not claiming anybody. Have you noticed that I havent mentioned any group? Yet you quickly jumped to Somalis and Fulanis when you know that there are other people from all tribes who fit that description. I told you that you are crafty.

I asked you if every single person you saw when you visited Nigeria fit your description of round noses and thick lips.

I know your kind . An insensitive and inconsiderate "natural hair warrior". I even mentioned your "kind" right at the beginning of the thread because you people are not new.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 1:20am On Dec 24, 2019
CeterisXVII:
Okay, all those black British people and their African-American counterparts with British names, are....what? I don't even understand her argument regarding that bit. Should they now change their names, or deny their heritage? Do their English names, make them less Black or less African-American or....what?

As for thin lips and noses, she should visit Eritrea, Ethiopia and North Sudan, as well as Northern Chad. She will see many people with such features. I have even met Kanuris with such features, too.
I was talking about Nigerians who have English names. Youd have to ask her about all that. My point was just that being influenced by colonialism doesnt necessarily make somebody ignorant because its already part of our culture. So its silly to call people names on that basis.

According to her those people are discounted already because they are "mixed". Im not even talking about them because you can find people all over Nigeria who fit that description
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 1:19am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
The silly girl doesn't even understand sarcasm
So answer the question seriously, if youre not even sillier than you think I am.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 1:02am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
Yes! Chinese ppl look ugly
See? You are totally nonsensical.

Apparently having a flat nose with straight hair makes you ugly yet you want the world to accept the beauty of everybody with kinky hair and big lips.

Does it make sense? Can you please explain why we should take you seriously after you wrote something as stupid as thishuh
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 12:56am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
And I've already explained that what I said will be racist if I said they look better in weaves. Just admit you want me to say that so you can feel better?

No silly, I said blk ppl look better with naturally. Ofcourse ugly naturals will exist, but they'd look even uglier with weave. Deal with it.

Yes! Chinese ppl look ugly, are you satisfied??

An english name is an appropriation, is that a lie?

Yes I have been to Nigeria, and?
The funniest thing is that Im sitting here with my afro blown out just looking at you in amazement.

If youve already confirmed it then why are you repeating it?

Exactly. So why is it so difficult for you to admit that people can look good with weave, if you can acknowledge that natural girls can look bad without it?

Why are all natural girls automatically better looking than all weave-wearing girls irrespective of how much the style actually suits them? Do you realise how stupid that sounds?

Ive already explained the "English name" example.

If youve travelled to Nigeria before then why do you maintain the argument that a black person cant have narrow features? Is that how everybody you saw in the places you went to looked?

You sound like one of those crazy 3rd generation immigrant Femteps that has never actually set foot in an African country but has somehow imbibed every single thing there is to know about black people smh

There are over 200 ethnic groups here yet they all must fit your warped view so that your misguided crusade will be justified.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 12:33am On Dec 24, 2019
1Sharon:
Crafty in what way?

How is it racist to say black ppl look better in our own hair because of our features??

If I was saying we look better in weave wouldn't that be even more racist? Would you prefer that??

Cos you've seen someone with patchy wisps of hair leaving their house right?

Weaves are not even about our features alone anyway.

Bleaching the knots, gluing the lace. Black women do these things in an attempt to make weaves look natural. But the main thing about making fake hair look natural is the texture. Black women are fooling nobody.

Are chinese full featured like black ppl?

I honesty don't thinking saying big lips big nose don't suit an english name is racist. They're trying to say a person with those features naturally wouldn't have an English name.
Ive already explained what I meant by "crafty".

Ive already explained why what you said is racist.

Ive already stated that I dont need you to confirm whether we look better with weaves or not.

We have all noticed people with natural hair who dont look good, but we wouldnt use them to suggest that nobody with natural hair looks good.

Bleaching knots, gluing lace are not what we're talking about here. We're talking about you and your *inverse featurism* which is actually a tool of oppression in itself. You are oppressing yourself in oppressing others.

You were talking about "rounder flatter nose" and Im telling you that Chinese people have that too, with straight hair. You now want to deflect towards "full-featured" which is not going to work. Answer the question: Do all Chinese people look ugly?

Dont worry; please go ahead and try telling somebody in the UK that their big black lips dont suit their English name. I for one will be looking forward to reading your story on front page.

1Sharon:
Which black person has STRAIGHT noses and THIN lips?? Do you know what you're saying?

Those aren't our features.

Don't even bring up Somali or fulani.
I just typed 3 lines of insults to you before realising that I am lacking an important piece of information that will clear everything. Here is my question:

Have you ever travelled to Nigeria before?
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 12:10am On Dec 24, 2019
Isoduwa:
Spoiled brat haha �
wink
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 12:10am On Dec 24, 2019
Charmingpet:
We are not Indians
Lol underrated hahaha dem dey carry in-law like spare change smh
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 12:09am On Dec 24, 2019
Khalidase83:
In English pls.
Excuse me, i noticed "Khalid" in your monicker and I thought you were a Muslim or at least had some understanding of Arabic language.

It means "God bless you"
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 12:01am On Dec 24, 2019
Pacesetter123:
Yap,I know.Some parents flogg unecessarily.Somethings dat required verbal warning, voice correction or even showing practical example to teach n correct a child,dey still want to use Flogging to correct.Dats unecessary n should be discontinued by any parent.
Hmm! Its good to clarify something. Carry go Sir cool
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 11:54pm On Dec 23, 2019
CeterisXVII:
I feel like dashing you 100 likes for this statement. Your response is a real voice of reason.

Apart from that, black natural hair comes in different textures and lengths. Some people's hair is quite coarse and thick. Others have soft baby-fine hair. While a number of other black folk, have silky curls that appear wavy and long.

Ladies of mixed race have different textures hair which is far more silky and longer, than those of most black Africans.

People need to chose what hair styles suit their hair texture and their lifestyles. Period.

It is not easy styling a child's hair every second. Even combing out the links causes pain, if the hair is coarse.

So why not just plait it and let her carry the style for a week? It is easier and less stressful, for both mother and child.
Thanks, the fact that every child is different is what a lot of people here are failing to grasp.

If it's so extremely painful for your child and they don't mind low cut then why not? But you dont have the right to castigate somebody with a different life and a different child!

I don't see where all the fake wokeness is coming from when most children would be okay as long as the stylist was reasonable. You don't want your child to ever feel one ounce of pain in her entire life or whathuh

Will you say you will rush home just to feed the child no matter what or will you let them be hungry for an hour or so so that you will finish what you're doing? Will being hungry finish your child?

So you'll keep combing and pulling at her head every day and stress 2 of you just so that she won't endure a sore scalp for a couple of days? Come on!
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 11:36pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
Honestly no, blk women don't look good in weaves. Hopefully you'll understand this later.

How is that racist?? Do you perceive your features so negatively?? So its racist to say blk ppl have big noses and lips? Isnt that our biology? Are you projecting on me cos you don't like those features?? I guess saying blk ppl have kinky hair is racist too.

Ok, not all black ppl have big noses and lips, but our noses are rounder and flatter and our lips are fuller. Does that sound better to you?

When you say narrow noses and lips? Do you mean narrow like a caucasian? How many blks that aren't mixed have those features??

Why did you quote me, if you don't want me to confirm anything, why you mad sis?

I was "oppressed" but managed to overcome i guess.
Yes, it's your opinion that none of us look good with weaves and you're free to express it but you shouldn't be crafty or extreme in order to prove a point because it actually makes your argument weaker.

If I had said "what of those "natural beauties" with patch patchy wisps of hair over their bald heads" wouldn't it sound awful even though we know that that's how some of them look? You are being very unreasonable joor

It's not racist to state that some of us have particular features. It's racist to use that fact to argue that we look grotesque in weaves and wigs, when having a flat nose doesn't necessarily mean that straight hair looks bad on you. Chinese people nko?

The fact is that having large lips doesn't automatically disqualify you from looking decent with straight hair, just like having kinky hair doesn't automatically disqualify you from from looking decent with thin lips! You're so eager to squash everybody into your own tiny box for some reason when there are so many different looks that work well.

Being from Nigeria doesn't automatically mean that using a foreign first name is beyond you. You may disagree with it for your own reasons but it doesn't necessarily make the other person ignorant or stupid.

Will you say "big black face with big lips doesn't suit English name"huh Because that's racist! I'm sure in the UK you're talking from you can be arrested for saying that.

but our noses are rounder and flatter and our lips are fuller. Does that sound better to you?
It depends. Are you going to say that " rounder nose and full lips don't look good with long, straight hair"? Because that's racist too.

It has nothing to do with being mixed or not. I asked you a question- do black people with straight noses and thin lips always automatically look good in any wig they wear?

I'm quoting you because you're saying the wrong thing thinking that you're sounding more enlightened when actually your argument lacks intelligence and nuance.

There are full black people all over Nigeria with thin noses and lips and you're here talking about "mixed" like one bush woman! I just can't understand it.

How can you claim to have left your "oppression" but still be so narrow-minded?

You're the most oppressed person here, if you don't know.
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 11:06pm On Dec 23, 2019
sassysure:
I don't have problem with the choice of words used either.
Oya "As long as everybody understands you, it doesn't matter" brigade where are you?

I have ceded one to you people oo cheesy
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 11:00pm On Dec 23, 2019
Pacesetter123:
Flogging to correct her of wrong doings.Not subjecting her to unecessary pains in de name of beauty.Hairstyling can be done without such an unnecessary pain,but anyone dat is too painful to de child should be discontinued.Wen she grows,she can decide weda to pass tro de pain to achieve de desired beauty or not.But it shouldn't be de parents dat decide de type or level of pains de child should go tro just because de meant "good" for her in de context we r discussing here
Okay I understand you now. The difference is using the word "unnecessary".

But even flogging can be unnecessary, I hope you know that?
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 10:58pm On Dec 23, 2019
AkhereOkaka:
Tell him dear, often times people uses words without knowing what it means
But in this case I excuse her because the way she used "vividly" perfectly captured the ridiculousness of this particular scenario.

Let nobody vividly come anywhere near my place for more than 2 weeks ooo
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 10:51pm On Dec 23, 2019
Isoduwa:
So when you crying for prick your people won't hear anything from the bedroom to the bathroom �
Yes!
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 10:48pm On Dec 23, 2019
Khalidase83:
For what nah? Who is pursuing them from their original homehuh?
Masha Allah aleek
Family › Re: What Is Your Take On Your In-laws Living In Same House With You? by midnighter(f): 10:46pm On Dec 23, 2019
babythug:
I have my brother in law here and most times I feel like slapping him. His latest misdemeanour is literally taking over my son’s slippers this is a 35year old( or thereabouts) man and my son is 9 years old
I have an aunt who used to come over on ordinary holidays o, and do that to me. As in literally rummage through my stuff and take what she wanted. From a 13 year old. Why are people like this?
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 10:36pm On Dec 23, 2019
Pacesetter123:
But it's not de parents dat is passing tro de pains.It is de child.So how can dey now decide wot pain a child should or should not go through?
I really hope that after you made this statement, you won't tell us that you flog your kids.

I really hope not.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 10:31pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
They are ignorant. We look better in our real hair.
The world needs to see out beauty. Blk women don't realise that we give other races power when try to look like them.

If I was saying blk women look better in their weaves, I'm sure you'd find that less offensive.
It's not about arguing that we look better in our natural hair. You are free to think that. And it's true to an extent.

It's about you implying that we don't look good at all in weaves or other styles, when that's simply not true. And you're being deliberately insincere by using extreme language to prove your point.

You keep using words like big lips and big noses which is racist. Not all of us have big noses and lips. You're just trying to be controversial in an effort to sound enlightened.

What about people with narrow noses and thin lips, do they have your permission to wear their weaves now?

If you had said that people should try to be realistic about their facial and bone structure when choosing styles, I would have understood but you're just being vulgar and offensive to prove a point.

I don't need to you to confirm for me whether black women look better in weaves or not. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be so quick to judge people just because they don't conform to your view.

The systems of oppression that led to this discussion in the first place are well-established and complex. You are wrong to lord it over people just because you have had a different experience.

If you want to put your point across then do it without being arrogant. You are actually scaring people away from the natural hair movement with your attitude.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 10:14pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
Yes but most don't wear hair extensions that look like our hair..what you have on, shows what you like.

It doesn't need to be pink and 40 inches..
I have talked about that already.

I understand that we have a problem with inferiority complex and making our hair look more "white" but that doesn't mean that everybody who does that is totally ignorant about what makes them look good or that people who don't automatically conform to your view of what looks "good" must be stupid.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 10:02pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
Good, and the texture?
I mentioned "blond" and you said white people use their same colour of hair. That is why I asked you that question.

I have talked about texture already.

You make it sound like we are all out there wearing 40-inch pink wigs and looking ridiculous.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 9:59pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
What do you mean extreme examples? Doesn't the average black women wear hair that looks nothing like the hair underneath? Is that extreme or is that commonplace?

A generalisation doesn't mean all, it's just too many.
I asked, what about black people who wear their same colour of hair?
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 9:52pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
I really don't want to go into this. But...

The average white woman doesn't wear fake hair, but the average black woman does.

If I leave my house right now, I'm guaranteed to bump into black women with wigs but I know the white woman will all be natural.

Secondly, its natural for whites to have blonde hair but not for black ppl. That's their problem.

How many blk women wear yaki? Not enough sis.
So you should say it like that instead of implying that all people who use extensions must hate themselves.

You're just being facetious, so what of black people who wear black or brown hair?

If you want to make a point you should be reasonable. Don't use extreme examples to paint all black women bad.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 9:48pm On Dec 23, 2019
1Sharon:
Tell me about it sis sad

Brazilian hair, big nose, big lips..not a good fit. No wonder black women are seen as the ugliest race in the west and they don't get it.

Big lips, big nose go with big hair, black women don't realise we look best in our real hair sad

Our beauty is unique
You're actually the one ridiculing African women, who told you our lips don't match our hairhuh

So does Angelina Jolie need to force her hair into an Afro?

If you think we still look good natural it's fair enough but that doesn't mean we don't look good in other styles.

You're going so far in one direction that you're beginning to sound like the racists you hate so much.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f):
1Sharon:
So putting extensions in a little girls hair is not self hate? undecided their hair is still tender and growing, they don't need extensions to pull out the little bit of hair they have.
It's not self-hate at all. What about white women who go and get blond extensions sewn into their scalp to make it appear thickerhuh

What about those who use kinky or yakki extensions that mimic their natural hair texture?

If you keep arguing like that you will eventually reach the conclusion that basically all body modifications mean that you "hate yourself".

Adding attachments helps to keep the hair neat for longer which is less stress on the child since they won't need to keep making it every week.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 9:32pm On Dec 23, 2019
DMerciful:
Seems we also have Surrey in UK. I'm actually in the one in British Columbia, Canada
cheesy that's colonisation for you. There's also a "Lagos" in Portugal!
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 9:15pm On Dec 23, 2019
sassysure:
What do these children know about self esteem.
We impose these things on them and it became the norm.

I didn't do my hair as a kid and that didn't stop me from playing and running around.
It's the new modern Nigerian woman standard.

Instead of not plaiting their girls hairs, they rather not plait theirs.

Has nothing to do with the child but her mother.

Allow a child to be a child. She will grow and do all he hair styles in this world. But the Nigerian materialistic factor and show off won't allow us.
You advocated for just shaving somebody's head regardless of the situation. If she likes herself with hair, it will affect her self-esteem. If she's the only person with a shaven head in a school full of girls , it will affect her self-esteem if she's the self-conscious type.

If you're shaving it you shave with the right intentions. If you're braiding a style you braid with the right intentions.

You don't just apply your principles on somebody willy-nilly and then rubbish it when somebody brings up a point.

What you did when you were a child may not be applicable now.

You forget that the reason some women go totally overboard with Indian hair and Brazilian wig blah blah is because they hated having to shave their heads when they were small. All the fake hair now makes them feel like a "big girl".

So shaving isn't a universal solution for everybody.

It's not "allow a child to be a child" but "allow your child to be herself".
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 8:48pm On Dec 23, 2019
sassysure:
That pain is avoidable o.
Cut the damn thing
If it won't affect her self-esteem. If that's what she would like you to do.

After all, the hair will still grow again in a few weeks and she might have changed her mind by then.

But telling everybody to do that just because you think everybody must be like your child is nonsensical.
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 8:39pm On Dec 23, 2019
Bahddo:
this is how Nigerians (across generations) have been conditioned to accept and even idolize suffering.

I don't know who did this to you but you don't need to pass through avoidable pain/stress before you can enjoy life.
It has nothing to do with Nigerians, even "oyibo" cultures where kids are supposedly spoiled all the time believe in teaching kids resilience.

I didn't say you have to pass through avoidable pain to enjoy life. I simply stated that some pains are unavoidable, so its better to learn how to deal with them and enjoy the pleasures that result.

Have you always enjoyed a perfect life without pain? Aren't you still enjoying your life?

And going back to the topic, you can't shield children from pain that's even temporary, all the time. It doesn't make sense
Family › Re: Moms! Quit Putting Little Girls Through Torture In The Name Of Braiding Hair. by midnighter(f): 8:35pm On Dec 23, 2019
Sterope:
The pain of waking up for school or work every morning is necessary. Plaiting of hair? NO!

The child can decide what to do with the hair when she grows up including choosing a painless way of dealing with her haircheesy
That's a reductive argument. Some parents don't see school as necessary, some people don't even see work as necessary so where does it end?

If you don't see it as necessary then others do.

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