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MsDarkSkin:

lol really?

anyway it has nothing to do with genetics.

actually my dear watson, genetics has a lot do with it.. most west africans have a muscle fast twitch muscle for reaction that most other race dont have and most people for decades now, especially scientist stay asking the of nature vs nurture. I believe nature has a lot to do with it, but nurture is more important. First of all sprinting is jamaica's national sport that the government and families spend so much to have their children train. NIGERIA HAS NO NATIONAL SPORT EXCEPT YOU WANT TO CALL YAHOO-YAHOO a sport. Nigerians have some of the greatest minds and if we can only use it for good things, you will see greatness in all areas spring out of Nigeria.

bayulll01: What do you think is the cause of the dismal performance of Team Nigeria in the London 2012 Olympics?

A.POOR PREPARATION

B.LACK OF FUNDS

C.CORRUPTION

D.GEJ

You are right and may i add our parents discourage us from sports and tell us to focus only on acedemics. Plus there is no highschool or university programs for sport in nigeria. In all, until nigeria brings out money to train and cater to all forms of education for nigerian youths nigerians, except those that school abroad who atleast have a chance at a sport from preschool to university, we will keep doing horrible in the olympics. ANd for that reason Nigeria will never host the olympics if corruption, and bad leaders and horrible school system stay in place. Imagine all this militant youths, talk of boko haram recruits could have had other means to release their energy that is fruitful for them and their family rather than killing others.

Rossikk: Nigerians are not disappearing at the Olympics like Camerounians because conditions in Nigeria are not as challenging as in Cameroun. In Nigeria, there is movement forward in terms of the economy. Even power supply is improving by the day. Opportunities are opening up for people. There is a palpable sense of hope in the country. So you can't compare, really.

The Camerounian govt needs to step up. That country has been in the doldrums for too long and is being left behind by the likes of Nigeria, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Senegal etc.

what you said is true, but dont count out the fact that the uk, especially gbr have a colonial parent child relationship that even though 9ja got its independence its relationship is more amicable and closer than that of cameroun and gbr, because gbr was france colonial child, not gbr.

mkmyers45: Normally religion is only a matter of faith and the logic of science doesn't apply. Other than the concept of Designed Humanism, are there other religions that can combine God with a belief in logic?

well our traditional beliefs(non european christian God etc) has both faith and in many ways the logic of science if carefully examined. It is sad that we allowed the white man to dictate to who we should worship and therefore end up shunning our own religion and roots our ancestors worshiped for ages and never had a problem, truly things have fallen apart especially when the centers no longer hold.

NRI PRIEST: Hahaha! "Ngwa speaks the original ancient Igbo" ? Did you come up with this or your maternal granpa told you? Is it the same Ngwa that migrated from Mbaise or is it the ones that lives in the moon ? Abeg,go do your research before with continue with that issue! Do not insult the people who invented what is knon today as the Igbo culture! Dont you ever make a statement like that again. Ngwa doesnt really have a defined culture!!! Do not meddle into this matter again! Its bigger than you!

ummmmm rewind... i hope it was not me you were speaking to...you know what i think you were looking in your mirror when you said the rubbish above. The given is ngwa is the largest clan in igboland..second nde mbaise's igbo is now watered down, the authentic igbo is lacking in the speech of this generation...third, ara odi gba ghi, mbaise created whaaattt? Ngwa people have a rich culture and until you go to an ngwa gathering dont come here claiming precedence over any clan. Anyways i dont have your time..aftr all most igbo people dont even know how they came to existence, some claim hebrew heritage,others nri lineage, and so on. At the end of the day... Igbo mbu Igbo, no matter the voice or dialect used to speak it. The cultures are different,yet the same. Anyways i tell "wannabe"relevant,but yet irrelevant lost people like you to go ask the dibia in your village about your people,so you will not come here talking rubbishooo. Olo lili loooo,oooh...ooh...ooh. Nde Umu'Nne mma mma nu ooo, anam' ekele unu, uwa nke nanai, adighi nfe, anyi nkwesiri imutama omena-ala anyi, ma oburu li ibu onye mbaise la onye aba, igbo mbu igbo..ngwa ka anyi na ga li ihu!!

ChinenyeN: .

obu giri mbu "ta a nle" biko kowarala'm

NRI PRIEST: Hahaha! Okpogbuo ya. I write in mostly my dialect because all Igbos understand it. I do understand Odumchi when he writes in Arochukwu dialect,Achi4u,when he writes,all Imo groups,Enugu groups,most Ebonyi and Abia but I dont understand your gibberish! Infact,nobody understands you even your Ngwa ppl! Now,my q uestion is why do you keep writing what nobody understands ? How do you reason?

BIA enyi'm, nwaokoro la nwa agborbia, kpacharakwa owenu anya. Anyi nkwesiri izukulata nganania maka anyi nile mbu umunne,nwa afor nde igbo. Olu anyi ngi la suo igbo ndi izi ebe anyi nhe, la omelala anyi.( ihe ndi isu, mbu ngwa igbo, mma'm mbu onye osisioma ngwa). Anyi kwesiri igi la anyasu na were gba nzuko. Unu were ya wayo oo.!!!.. IF you cannot understand the dialect ask we shall teach you...the ngwa people happens to speak the original ancient igbo,undiluted...unlike many other clans..if you doubt go ask your grandpa..lol... I asked mine..LOL. So lets be merry and learn eachothers dialects..

Kobojunkie: Ok! Isn't Access Bank registered in Nigeria? Isn't this an indirect way of registering lack of faith in the Nigerian system then?

That's kind of like NBA going to the UK to sue, Kobi Bryant or something. lol

what most of you dont know is that by virtue of nigeria being a former gbr colony, the citizens that go to stay more than 90 days can be charged with whatever and have to stay in uk to face the punishment...no extradictions, because we know they would get away wit it, if they are extradicted to naija to face the pun ishment. i actually prefer it this way,that uk try these criminals instead of naija crooked justice system..

odumchi: This is how people dress in Eastern Igboland. Notice how these boys are either wearing okpu agu or okpu mboko.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdiTZf4wTbk&feature=youtube_gdata_player



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ukeYcIEaY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

see these are the standard hats for non titled igbo men, the regular igbo hats... so if any igbo young mant wants to rock this as they put it...fine, but to wear you also have to be initiated into some kind of mmuo society. you know those that dresss like ekpoo...

ezeagu: Why?

Because you missed the significance of the names they are given.Its like telling a doctor, i am only gonna call you your name your parents gave you,and will not recognize your accomplishments... yeah i didnt think so. Please dont take offense, its just that my grandfather was livid when he saw what i saw of children rocking the same hat he had received after fighting in wars and, that now children and young people who dont know the meaning just put it on for fashion sake. I hope you caught my flow. I meant no personal attack.

ezeagu: I just think it would be best for everybody to 'ansa eem papa name'.

YOU ARE A LOST GENERATION>>> I TURN MY BACK ON YOU>>

Abagworo: You are wrong bro. That red hat is kind of universal across Igboland and even into controversial Igbo areas like say Ikwerre. The red cap has respect everywhere but the differences lies in there significance. In much of the Southern Igbo they have "Okpu agu" which I feel is better of as an identity for Igbo than the red cap. The "okpu agu" is generally worn by youths and non-titled men as well.

DID ANYONE READ WHAT I WROTE OR GO TO THE SITE I SENT YALL. MOST OF YOU ARE HERE GIVING YOUR OPINION ON WHAT THE RED HAT IS. THE FACT IS..CHILDREN AND NON TITLED MEN SHOULD NOT BE WEARING IT PERIOD.IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR FOREFATHERS AND IGBO TRADITIONS. YES IN ABIA,especially ngwa where my mom's people are from wear the knitted red,black and white santa claus hat looking. Keep in mind each clan have their own regular chief hats, then as you gain more titles you gain different hats. THE RED HAT IS THE ONLY PERMANENT HAT IN ALL IGBO CLAN...BECAUSE ITS MEANT FOR WARRIORS!! THE BLACK HAT>>MOST PEOPLE NEVER ACHIEVE TITLES TO THAT LEVEL. There is the tall red hat..worn by deltans and ikwerre igbo..then small red one worn mostly in anambra,enugu, the black by higher ranking members that the king blesses( its special, but the red over powers it in certain decision making-according to my maternal grandpa..depends on the situation. The red is usually given to those who are wariors and black to non wariors..red signifies..blood and earth). My grandpa also says in order to truly be accoladed with the red hat and black and raccon tail hat(red,black and white knitted one) you must be able to speak in adages, write in nsibidi and understand them. There are so many rules. you cannot just shake..you must use your nkupe, odu nnama, or back of your hand to greet three times, then pull apart and snap your hand as a sign of respect and understanding...and while doing all these you are praising eachother in proverbs if you are found to be a fake you are usually banished from the land..That is where many secret society rules draw from.. and only those bestowed the honor can know it. SO WHEN THIS GENERATION STARTS DESTROYING THE SACRED TRADITIONS OUR FOREFATHERS LEFT FOR US, THINK TWICE BECAUSE YOUR CHILDREN WILL ONLY FOLLOW WHAT YOU TEACH. WHEN YOU WEAR THE SAME RED HAT YOUR TITLED FATHER OR GRANDFATHER WEARS..YOU ARE DISRESPECTING HIM< NOT HONORING HIM, CAUSE YOU ARE BASICALLY TELLING HIM THAT YOU ARE MATES< AND THAT HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AMOUNTS TO NOTHING.

Crayola1: Wouldn't it make more sense for Igbo guys to wear their own traditional clothes so they wouldn't have to wear the red cap to signify their ethnicity while donning other cultures clothes?

Its kind of weird to wear and outfit that really doesn't belong to you and the only way to make it yours is by wearing a hat that seems to have a very special meaning.

I've also seen those caps in black, do they mean something as well? If not they could be used as a substitute while the red oned maintain their importance.

People like you i also pity...looks like you didnt read my post thoroughly,because i explained the signifance of each color..and how its traditionally made... SMH..this generation of ngwam-ngwam-ngwam...take it slow ooo.

Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by afam4eva(m): 12:32pm

Andre Uweh: People should not be worried about a non titled man dressing the way he likes. Afterall, he is promoting Igbo culture. In the past, people have accused Ndigbo of not wearing their traditional clothes, now the emphasis is shifting to red hat.
What should concern us now are people who acquire those titles without achieving anything for the community. Some of those Nze and Ozos are not worth it.

I think you're right. I have always wondered why Igbos have refused to commercialized the red cap.

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see you two alone have proven my point, the lack of respect for the igbo culture and traditions, no matter the amount of money that can be made, one can not go and sell the medicine man's idol just because it promotes culture. Yes it is good to share the igbo culture, but share it in the right way, not the way you see to be easier and faster. This is the problem with this generation..doing everything too fast without common sense. So because Esau sold his birth right, you tooo igbo men want to sell one of the most respectable symbol of igboland just to make money..#sad...if igbo culture is left to the likes of you..by 2052, the igbo culture would be a myth. Traditions are there to be followed,yes with time things change,but somethings with time never change because of how sacred it is to a culture.

"The average Igbo man by tradition is expected to have a title, either given

to him by his father or one that he assumes and takes up himself."

I was so shocked when i attended this igbo convention my friend dragged me to this weekend in the USA. I noticed that a lot of young men were "rocking the red ozo or ichie okpu(red hat meant for titled men..chiefs etc),not to talk of little kids wearing the isiagu cloth..smfh. Anyways, though i saw they were celebrating their culture, to me at the same time they were disrespecting it. How can a little child wear an ozo cap like its nothing.Truly IGBO people yall need to stop playing with your traditions, the white man doesnt play with his, so why should you try to play with yours. I find it totally demeaning to see young people 0-35, who have not earned a title to be wearing things meant for men who have worked hard to achieve the status that cap depicts. It just angers me. I dont blame you though, i blame your parents.Igbo red caps had more meaning, being in existent and had dignity before and after the colonial,but it seems our parents' and our generation have lost the respect due to our traditions,just because our parents want to westernize our ways of thinking. Am afraid to tell you all,the white man lied, not all fingers are equal, not everyone is equal, some are meant to be kings,chiefs and others servants.

In most communities, the title system starts with the Nze title, given to persons in recognition of their community contribution. When the Nze titleholder reaches the elder age and remains in the village, he becomes part of the Igwe’s cabinet. Upon becoming a senior elder, the Igwe may honour him with the Özö or Ichie title, standing directly below the Igwe.

Forget that every tom dick and harry in Igbo Land that has money or ships container pays his way thru having the title giving to him. And it lost its respect and honor.

These titles and many other chieftaincy titles, each signifying certain achievements come along with privileges and symbols of authority. Chieftaincy titleholders are privileged to do the “chief handshake”. This handshake starts with touching each other’s hand with the upper-side three times before shaking. If one of the persons does not recognise the other as a chief, even though he might pretend to be one, the touching stops after two times before the shaking.

Another way you get the title passed to you is if your Father is one and very prominent, you will be recognized if you follow his footsteps.

The traditional title cap for the Ozo or Ichie title has always been Red or Black Have in mind not for the King Igwe/Nze..,. With time the Red took more recognition because it was a token Initially given to warriors by the King (Nze) after their war victory, it use to come with a Parrots feather (Plumes), then a rare bird in Igbo land, and only them was allowed to do the war dance. (Ariya is right on the significant of it.)

What differentiates the Warriors from the Ozo's was that the Ozo holders mostly hard Eagle Feathers and handed Elephant tusks with dry hardened cow (bull) skin.

Now on how it was made..,

It was always made same way other cloths and hats were made in Nigeria and most other parts of Africa. Wooven from cotton, The different was it was mashed closely with natural local glue, hence the hardness and cohesiveness. If there was anything Africans was blessed with, was our Arts and artistic nature.

The Red Color.., The made caps were normally stained with the soil., and most of us know that the majority of the top soil in the east has a reddish color to it, think clay pots, potteries and so on, even mud houses.

I can't remember again, but the significant had to do with the idea of the person wearing it is of our land and our soil something like that, I have to check for you. But that was what used as the initial stain/color for the caps and when things came of age, we had red dyes and it started being prominent in the red color. The black stains for the the black cap, was from charcoal and native gum mix.


Please My Igbo people correct your brothers who go around wearing those caps that are not titled, because if tradition is followed by the eze of the land they come from they can be banished from their village or have to pay a fine..depends on your village...etc...and yall better not laugh, am serious.. P.S for those who will come at me saying what does a yoruba girl know about igbo traditions... i direct you guys to a better source...http://www.nathanielturner.com/nkeonyechiriyazaaonigbotitles.htm

jonnpedro: WHY, CAN U TELL US WHY?

You cannot compare michelle to that ewu mpama called patience jonathan. First of all michelle is well educated woman, a former lawyer and accomplished in her rights, down to earth, doesnt use the government money to buy expensive clothes or try to out doo anyone. She just tries to be her husband's partner and not the president. Patience jonathan can never in this lifetime be compared to Michelle, Its like comparing an elephant to a rat, you just cannot do it. PLus i have had the opportunity of meeting both first ladies and i have to tell you that Michelle is exactly like she portrays, educated down to earth woman, with the people her husband govern in mind. Patience on the other hand is her husband co thief, stealing resources, trying to be like a queen, useless cargo. In short if i didnt know the family personally i would have cursed her whole family, but i shall not because my dad's sister is married into patience's paternal lineage..therefore related to her.. mtcheww. It just urks me. Patience is just a waste of human life.

Till the day i die,i still maintain that oshiomole had his p.a murdered... period, because the p.a discovered something about oshiomole and demanded bribe that oshiomole wasnt ready to give..After all this is nigeria where the government is ran by thieves and murderers.

LMAOOO< IF NIGERIANS DID DNA TESTING FOR ALL THE CHILDREN THAT WOMEN CLAIM THAT ARE THEIR HUSBANDS,THERE WILL BE NO MARRIAGE, CAUSE MOST OF THEM WILL BE BROKEN UP. Had a friend who found out that his mom had cheated on the father to produce him with the houseboy in naija, so when the boy came to usa to study and got sick his dad who was with him offered to give his blood and low and behold through that found out that his wife cheated and that all his sons all belong to different men. #sad. In africa the way i see it, and especially in nigeria, most women will do anything to stay married and happy and unfortunately infidelity is not new

LesbianBoy: Even if i want to marry a foreigner i would make sure we do our marriage here in Nigeria! Cant imagine losing my whole wealth to one THIEF!

lol, sad thing is your likes end up marrying women who are gold-diggers, plus even if you marry the foreigner in naija, she can still have the divorce proceeding in her home country, all she has to claim is that she doesn't feel safe in your home country, the only thing that will save you is if you did a traditional wedding which she cant replicate and by law in any democratic nation , traditional weddings cannot be toyed with,except its dissolved in the primary manner it was first conceived. But yeah i laugh when most african men here in the usa say they cannot share their wealth, my dear, no be you go share it,na court go force you, if you no gree, dem go put you for prison or freeze your accounts.

i give him a five and nothing more

He should face the consquences of his action, what a fool.Infact he deserves every unhappiness he gets, how can he cheat on his pregnant wife.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Igbos and Yorubas are N.OT the only people in Nigeria.[/quote]we know but they make up more than 60 percent of the population, so yeah majority rule. But in any case i am tired of people telling igbos and yoruba to leave the north, abi the north no be part of nigeria?, i beg i no go go if i was them, so i can leave my businesses and properties just because some mugu feels like committing suicide via bombing, i will shoot him before he does, thats why if i lived in the north i would keep a gun handy.

uceee: This really beats me. Why is the US investigating corruption in the Nigerian government? This people should mind their business. Or maybe its time for us to establish "EFCC New York branch" to take care of corruption in the US.

ummm it happened on their soil, so they have every right to investigate and jail whoever. They should no they cannot do anyhow with americans, because those money removed have taxes associated with it that most be paid also.

finally a man with ethics and moral in emeka ugwuonye- and his last name definately states his stand. I respect this man, infact let him tell the world all he knows, nigerian government thinks that criminal acts like stealing money can be swept under the rug in the usa, if you dont know by now if you withdraw more than 9k or 10k from usa accounts the government always starts tracking you, let alone 10 million. Nawaoo. Infact i think Emeka and his family should be protected by the usa government, because we know how rootless naija government is, they will kill him and his whole family if he steps on their foot. I applaud this man, may we see more men like this come out of nigeria that wants peace,justice and have morals. AMEN!!

wait i thought the girl who won miss nigeria is miss ayuk, and not miss charles. They they finally find out she is 27 going on 28 and kicked her out? hmm nothing is ever hidden under the sun.

No offense but i think you are ungrateful. I dont know what to say to you, and am shocked that your parents havent stepped in to put some sense in your head. Mtchewww

if i was president i would first freeze all the assets of former and current government officials until they can prove how they made the money or gained those assets legally. then make sure there is electricity all over nigeria then decentralize the federal government, then change the oil treaties with shell and make sure they and others who come to do business in naija are held accountable for their actions.

nawaoo and my dad told me you can always trust what an hausa muslim says to be true, if this is their type of truth lawan i no want

No offense poster, but i dont feel sorry for you, how can you say a man loves you to the point of making you abort his children. Personally if he was my brother, i would never let him marry you, because you are too stupid and heartless to kill your children for a man. Are you mad? This is why i dont believe in Romantic LOVE, I believe in trust, loyalty and respect. My mom warned me never to enter into a blood covenant with anyone, because if they die before undoing it, you are stuck. Now dont say am a christian, blah blah. Just like i believe there are bad things in the world, I believe if you believe that you can let go of him, go to his family and have you two reverse the oath. For the consequences might hurt you and him in the future. Move on with your life girl, if he loves you he will certainly come back, but in the mean time dont wait for him, because you are used and tainted and he would never want you, he wants something fresh, and i hope those abortions haven't damaged your womb!!

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Women look beautiful with makeups, that's a fact. And there are some that are naturally beautiful too, although you can find that naturally beautiful girl in 1 out of 100,000,000 of them . Anyways What am here to discuss today is that there are some side effects from these products used to beautify the body as it is clearly shown on sexy pop diva,Susan Abimbola Filani-Harvey a.k.a Goldie face at the Big brother star reality game show(above)
Because of the marketing power from the advertising media, Women are seduced into using makeup as teens. It affects their body's ever changing chemistry and becomes a vicious, self destructive, self loathing cycle that ends up making some of them look old and ugly on the inside and out.
It can be compared to using synthetic oil in your car, once you start you can never stop or it will ruin your engine. Maybe am wrong, But there are pictures from the reality tv show that backs up my theory above.


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this is what happens when you shower in bleach and dont let your skin breathe from makeup. all the chemicals in the bleaching creams are destroying her genetic makeup and aging her fast. be warned african women you should be content with your natural color there is a reason God made you the color you are.

i really think it would work better considering that though most professed christians in naija believe in God, traditional Gods they fear more, mainly because they know what can happen and the consquences of disobeying certain Gods are seen faster. White man's religion stole our morals that our traditional faith made sure was set.