₦airaland Forum

Stevez32:
E.g president buhari who told the world that Nigerians are dishonest. Abi I lie?

You speak the truth.

Unlike Buhari.

Stevez32:
E.g president buhari who told the world that Nigerians are dishonest. Abi I lie?

You speak the truth.

This is for all the idiots who claim that all Nigerians are dishonest.

Good post OP.

Bolustic:
Multinationals are taking over our economy and we are happy. Shoprite, SPAR are foreign companies who will repatriate their profits to their home states.

The government need to put restrictions on what MNCs can do in Nigeria, that's what we call ECONOMIC NATIONALISM. We need to look inwards.

I'm sure Just Rite and other Nigerian stores wouldn't have gotten publicities like this.

Rather than completely limit foreign companies shouldn't Nigerians put pressure on the Nigerian banking system and the government to lend money to businesses at sustainable rates - not the 25% rate that Nigerian businesses are forced to endure?

If Nigerians have access to capital they will be able to create retail outlets as good (if not better) than Spar, Shoprite, Game etc.

Not even Kano Pillars.

mu2sa2:
Very good insight. Nigeria is full of hypocrites. It is obvious that it is not the number of states that is the issue, but corruption and mismanagement. Imagine someone saying we should go back to the problematic regionalism! Those mouthing resource control are just brainless, because the thieves pocketing 13% derivation now will simply do the same with 100%. If today you stop the private impoundment of public money you are going to see a big difference. Sadly, the thieves have brainwashed so many and diverted attention away from their massive looting of the treasury. A typical Ijaw, for example, is made to believe that his/her region is mired in dehumanizing poverty because of lack of so-called resource control! And the brain washers are busing looting billions without caring a hoot about developing the region.

Are they any more brainwashed than the illiterate fool in Katsina who can't write his own name but believes that oil proceeds from places that he can't identify on map, such as Rivers or Bayelsa, should be 'shared' so that his governor can take the money and buy children to violate and call it marriage?

As much as you people claim Niger Delta governors are crooked no one has been worst than Abacha, Babangida and the various state governors who have refused to build schools, hospitals, roads or any amenities that would improve quality of life.

iflywithbuhari:
Ayade and Donald Duck will pay the ultimate price for their stupiditee. The militants will overun the entire state and sack the clueless governor. If the PDP BOT buffoons keep on resisting the inevitable Sheriff revolution, then every last PDP governor and senator who supports Makarfi wil be fired.

Donald Duke left office almost ten years ago. Why are you mentioning his name?

And what 'revolution' will Sheriff, the sponsor of Boko Haram, bring besides more looting, more destruction and more stupidity?

abdulkabirO:
Well,I dont really know if the brought u guys up with this harsh and cruel way of thinking,don't forget ppl beg in IBO land too,begging is a common thing amongst many tribes,the north have it the most,no doubt,but font forget only the northerners rule this country,OK who ever they wants becones President, when they wanted GEJ in 2011 he entered,when the wwany him out in 2015,they threw him out,so if u abuse them till tomorrow, they rule u still

I ask a simple question - why are Northerners dying of starvation if there are productive farms in the region?

Northerners run Nigeria but can't run the North? Is that good for Nigeria?

Maybe you should focus on the North first before running to Abuja to mess things up.

duni04:
I totally disagree with you. You should read the mining act of 2007. It absolutely guaranties rights of the host communities to their resources and to a clean environment.

You haven't read the Act, you're typing for the sake of typing. In summary:

All lands in which minerals have been found in commercial quantities shall from the commencement of the Act be acquired by the Federal Government in accordance with the Land Use Act.
http://www.vertic.org/media/National%20Legislation/Nigeria/NG_MIinerals_Mining_Act_2007.pdf

Which is precisely what I said. Mining companies need to get permission from Abuja to mine in Benue/Anambra/Imo/Kebbi/Osun - where is the logic in one organization in Abuja being granted power over industry in the far reaches of Nigeria?

The act makes constant reference to 'the Minster'.

Does that sound like a functional, pragmatic system to you?

Why is so much power vested in one person in Abuja?

You said that you 'disagree'. The truth is that you aren't disagreeing with me but with facts and logic. In short you disagree with the truth.

This is what the report actually says for those seeking the truth:

Freedom of thought, conscience and religion

34. The Committee is concerned that pupils are required by law to take part in a daily religious worship which is “wholly or mainly of a broadly Christian character” in publicly funded schools in England and Wales, and that children do not have the right to withdraw from such worship without parental permission before entering the sixth form. In Northern Ireland and Scotland, children do not have right to withdraw from collective worship without parental permission.

35. The Committee recommends that the State party repeal legal provisions for compulsory attendance at collective worship in publicly funded schools and ensure that children can independently exercise the right to withdraw from religious worship at school.

It doesn't even mention church. It's talking about children being made to engage in acts of religious worship in state funded schools. The report was written with reference to children in the UK and the Crown dependencies.

It does violate their right to choose but where's the report?

Why post a video by a third party but not the actual report?

abdulkabirO:
Sorry ehn,u don't need reply,u guys always want to argue,u better begin to beg the northerners to forgive u ppl,without them we don't have a Nigeria,OK?u ppl can a!ways farm on ur oil land now and see how it looks like,

There are people starving in IDP camps in the north and you want to talk about farming.

You are a clown.

No one will beg the northerners for anything because it is they who send their children out to beg, rather than raise them.

duni04:
At least we agree on the state police. State policing was a campaign promise of the APC. We should tackle them in this. Federal roads are poor in Nigeria because of corruption and lack of maintenance.[b] The states you mentioned have good roads that were built <10 years ago. [/b]Most Federal roads were built ages ago and have scarcely been maintained. Another problem we can attribute to corruption because I know contracts would have been awarded for them.
We just need oversight over these people maintaining our resources in trust for us. Alot of money has gone down the drain chasing "silver bullet" and "one word" solutions (restructuring) to the very simple problems plaguing us. We spent billions on the 2014 national conference. It was a serious waste.

The national conference had some good ideas and some stupid ones but it was important that those who had grievances had their say. Nigeria could have used the good ideas to better the country, instead someone decided that everything, good ideas included, should be ignored...

What else has the FG wasted money on chasing one word solutions? Isn't the problem here the overbearing power of the FG itself?

The roads in the states that I've mentioned are in areas that require maintenance because of the climate and topography and receive the required care. It is the FG roads in these areas that receive inadequate attention because the FG has too much to handle. Let the states or the regions deal with their own roads. Let the states or the regions deal with their own power issues.


Structure is not a silver bullet solution, it puts a people, nation or individual on a path where they are more likely to succeed. You cannot expect things to go well as they are currently are. Nigeria doesn't even know how many people are within its borders because of the current system. How can such a system be of any benefit? Do you honestly feel that the Nigerian Constitution is a sensible document? That it provides a good framework for national success?

You mention 'corruption' without addressing the cause - why is it so easy to misuse FG money? When people have to earn money they are less likely to waste it, it is when that money is free that it will be wasted.

Do you realize how much wealth is being left underground in Nigeria because no one wants to invest in mining as the law (structure) currently is? There are minerals left in the ground because for whatever silly reason in order to mine in Anambra you need permission from the FG. You then pay taxes to the FG, not the state government. Why are taxes going to the FG instead of the FG when the resources are within the borders of that state? This is the nonsense that I'm talking about that continues to hamper development.

You do not appear to understand the importance of a framework, of enforceable laws that are logical yet liberal in nature. A nation needs a constitution written by rational, intelligent beings that sets the foundation. From there rational laws that pertain to private enterprise can be drawn up that will allow businesses to operate in a responsible manner, with the government ensuring that the law is followed. As things stand that is not the case.

duni04:
There u go again! The problem is accountability oga!
Let's have transparent budgeting! Let's privitise the remaining public enterprises we have (NRC, TCN, etc), let's scrap security votes, let's give state houses of assembly more powers to hold the governors accountable. We can as well give states more control over their policing. Very simple and straightforward solutions. Not building castles the sky and tearing the country down in the name of restructuring.

No one is talking about 'tearing down'.

But you need to restructure before it falls down.

Larger organizations are very difficult to police. When they are too powerful they are less likely to be held to account. This was the problem with many of the American and European banks when they were found to be acting fraudulently. Because of their size and scope no one wants to ensure that face justice for their misdeeds.

As to our suggestion for the states, you cannot give more responsibility whilst not granting more privileges. That is akin to slavery, why would anyone willingly ascent to gifting the FG (and feckless states) their wealth when they have no say over how that wealth is used? If states are to be given the freedom to create their own police forces (which they should) then they should be given the right to keep the revenue generated on their soil or from their coast. As things are states in the south such as Lagos, Anambra and AKS are having to purcase vehicles for the police because the FG is incompetent. What has the FG done to show that it should be trusted with more money?

Have you travelled on a good FG road lately? Even the roads built by the NDDC are superior. The best roads in the nation outside of Abuja, are those in Calabar and Akwa Ibom. This is why I am an advocate of state and regional powers. FG roads in the south are overwhelmingly poor but the state governments seem to manage to build and maintain decent roads - what does that tell you about the FG?

IBROHIM:
The Iboooos abi na igboooos are the problem we have in this country! They support anything corrupt as long as it favours them! No wonder they are so into armed robbery, kidnapping, forgery, fraud, ritual, drug pushing counterfeiting, arms dealing to mention but a few!!!!

Abacha was Igbo?

Babangida is Igbo?

Obasanjo is Igbo?

Turai Yar'adua is Igbo?

Saraki is Igbo?

Dasuki?

Tinubu is an Igboman?

You have to battle with them logically but in a humorous manner

Point out how silly their delusions are until they get tired of arguing with you.

duni04:
Bros I'm not holding forth for anyone. The same reason the northern states can't show any major developmental strides inspite of all the resources that have accrued to them is that same reason some southern states cannot show much too. The problem is mismanagement. Let's use panadol to treat headaches not cancer. Restructuring.Nigeria along the lines people have suggested and in the midst of all this corruption will bring us back to the same point. The problem is that money is not trickling down. Let us make the money trickle down by eliminating waste, corruption an d mismanagement. Simple and straightforward! No need for pulling down the house to install a new TV set. That's just ridiculous.

If the house is built without a solid foundation then it will need to be pulled down before it crushes everyone who lives there.

The problem with Nigeria is its structure, the constitution was drawn up by the military - the same military who ran Nigeria into the ground over two decades.

That same military imposed the first generation of state governors who 'mismanaged' resources, men like Odili, Amaechi, Ibori and Alamieyeseigha. They were not accountable to the people or their environment because it was the military establishment who put them in power. That was the FG choosing evil over the needs of the people. You are now here arguing that the same FG should be given more control over the needs of Nigerians when there are states proving that the can do a better job. Where is the logic in that sentiment?

There should be no more FG allocation as it currently is, let the states run their own affairs. The FG can be paid a royalty and use that money for national security etc. but the status quo is a recipe for disaster.

You do not run large corporations without delegating responsibility. The CEO does not purchase the toilet paper, make food purchases, interview every new hire and then go out and talk to shareholders and investigate new business propositions. To expect Nigeria to be run in such a manner and not expect confusion and mess is foolish.

duni04:
I think the very valid question now is what did Bayelsa state do it it's share of the Federal money when it's budget averaged 200billion-300billion 2/3 years ago? With a population <1million? How about Akwa Ibom with an average of N400billiin between 2011 and 2014? With a similar population demographic?
You can't go from point A to point z. Let's first ask what the problem is. Is it that the money accruing to the Niger delta states is too small and we need to increase it? If yes can you please justify the increase by accounting for the billions you already have. Or is it a problem of mismanagement? You keep shouting "the current system is faulty,restrcture Nigeria", but you've failed to recognise that the current system isn't working because of non accountability and corruption. Not because of the lack of money or resources but of the mismanagement of what we have.

Akwa Ibom has done a lot with the money it has received. That is a state with a genuine plan. Clearly you've never been there. They have the best road network in the nation. It's one of the few places in Nigeria that generates and has the capability to distribute sufficient power for the needs of the people and businesses there. The reason it cannot currently is because of the retarded system of 'sharing' that some people in Nigeria insist on.

Bayelsa was beginning from a very low point but they have been working to get up to speed. The reason why they've had so much to do is as a result of the foolish system of centralization that meant that places such as Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom that generate the revenue that is squandered elsewhere, were neglected. Now that they have the money from their own resources to utilize they are flying past other states, Akwa Ibom especially.

Also there are over 6 million people in Akwa Ibom. And there were 2 million in Bayelsa ten years ago, that number will have risen significantly since. Please don't make up lies.

The real tragedy is the states that do not have oil but have literacy rates of below 50%. The question should instead be asked of Katsina, Taraba, Sokoto, Borno, Kebii - what are they doing to generate revenue? Why are the not taking advantage of the wealth beneath their feet?

Lagos is thriving now because it generates more of its own revenue? Why is Kano floundering? Why is the north east in a mess?

As crooked as the states may be, none are as crooked as the FG. It was the FG from which Nigeria labored under a unitary system as imposed by the foolish military who had no clue how to manage anything.

Smaller units are more manageable and more likely to be held to account. Devolve more powers to the states, including revenue generation, power generation, mineral exploration and you will see many states rise.

They just realised that the Sarakis are thieves?

They've been in the business of 'government' for decades and it's only now that these people are waking up?

duni04:
You're not making sense atall. What is wrong with the current system we practise where states have been given plenty of powers with legal backup to run their affairs. Is that not decentralisation? What we should preach and emphasise is financial innovation and creativity from the states and less reliance in the centre for handouts. I think the current government is moving in the right direction with this. The newly introduced Budget Support Facility from the ministry of finance has spelt out the agenda for states to assume financial autonomy. For instance states that fail to increase their Internally generated revenue will not get anymore handouts from Abuja. Also States that fail to publish their accounts and migrate their account to a state TSA will get no support from the centre.
What we need is for the resources accruing to this country to trickle down to the smallest, lowest and most vulnerable people in this country, not this lame talk of restructuring. With greater accountability and less corruption, this money will definitely trickle down.
Proponents of this restructuring and this 2014 conference report are politicians who stand to gain from the new political offices that this nonsense restructuring will create.

If someone comes and takes your salary and then gives you 13% to spend on upkeep would you not find that odd?

Decentralized means decentralized - you cannot have a centralized budget, centralized resource management and then claim that is not unitary.

The centre is the problem - they requisition from states that have to give to those that produce nothing. If the FG was paid taxes or royalties from the revenue of the productive states instead of taking the whole cake and giving it to those that do nothing then it would force states to create an enabling environment for businesses. As things are some states have no reason to do so.

What you are advocating is akin to a man having 1000 children and being expected to feed, read to and nurture all of them successfully. Smaller units are more manageable and practical. You say that I am not making sense but it is you who has failed to argue logically. You ask what is wrong with the current system? Everyone can see that it leads to inefficiency and gross waste. There is no where on earth that is as diverse and resource laden as Nigeria where the central government has managed the resources adeptly. Let go of this silly FG program and ensure that the states are creating the majority of their budget internally. If you go to states such as Anambra, Akwa Ibom, Lagos and Cross River you will see that states (and private investors) are better than the FG when it comes to getting projects done.

What purpose are the 36 states if 27 (at least) rely on the resources of 9?

The OP is a half-wit.

People do a lot of things that are a waste of time, especially when those people are the ignorant children of people who believe in witches, spirits, deities and curses.

Going to church is a waste of time but there are people there as we speak. Four hours later some of them will still be there. Why would a reasonable person spend 5+ hours jumping up and down, pleading for help and rolling around in 'prayer'? Why would a reasonable person talk to the sky?

People scrape their foreheads on mats, daily. For what reason? What tangible benefit do they receive?

People give pastors money for 'healing' then die abruptly because a pastor cannot cure cancer. Likewise babalawos and alfas.

sweetgala:
Very well spoken I must say. He addressed some pressing issues that even swayed my opinions somewhat.

I have always argued that many of the states are illogical and we may have to merge states but when you realise that the many minority ethnic groups in Nigeria are best served by this system. When the old regional system was at play, the Fulani with some Hausa dominated the North , the Central Yoruba peoples of Ogun, Oyo , Osun dominated the South West and the animosity between Igbos on who is 1st class etc continues till today.

So rather than balkanise what we need is to reorganize the centre in a more efficient manner.

I've never listened to idiots who shout federalism or restructuring because from their weak arguments you can conclude they read the topic on a news paper and have little to no clue of what the ideals truly entail

Trying to manage a nation the size of Nigeria's from Abuja is foolish.

Decentralization allows for greater innovation, greater accountability and greater progress. The unitary system that Nigeria practices leads to stagnation and regression.

Where is the incentive for some regions to improve themselves when they're constantly waiting on Niger Delta handouts?

Why should states learn to be frugal if the FG will keep gifting them money for nothing in return?

Why is anyone in the North talking about 'crude oil price'? It's almost the first thing that comes out of their mouths.

Is there oil production in the North?

Why don't you talk to us about agricultural production or manufacturing instead of the crude oil?

Why don't you tell us how you raised literacy rates; cut maternal death and fistula rates; ensured that a higher percentage of girls went to school?

And no sir, law is not 'logic' - where is the logic in Sharia law? Where is the logic in allowing people who can barely take care of themselves take on more than one wife? Where is the logic in allowing young girls to be violated and calling it marriage?

Where is the logic in Nigeria's constitution that forces states/people to relinquish the rights to certain properties that are in their domain?

ouigy99:
OP, try cutting yourself with a knife and expect God to make it not hurt you. Try jumping in front of a dangote truck moving and top speed and expect not to get crushed.
Why blame God for everything? Some people said the want to start an Islamic caliphate in the country and engaged the countries military forces in a war for years, and you expect not to have casualties and victims of war?
Not only in Nigeria, but world over any country that engages in war must have people in IDP.
Your fellow free thinkers and scientists claim for any action, there is an opposite reaction.
The war is an action, death, famine and IDP are opposite reactions.
You are asking God why people steal from the IDP. The same free will that was given to mankind that is making you ask this question is the same free will that has made some people decide to steal from the IDP.
The same way you chose not to believe in God while others do, that's the same way some people will steal from IDP and some wouldn't.
Every choice and action man makes in life is really all about his free will to choose what to do; that is why while you are on the road, you see people give alms to beggars, some despise that; but it's the end outcome that people fail to understand..... On that fateful day, believe me, some will rise and some will fall

It's clear from the behavior of the people who call themselves 'Alhaji' whilst stealing the resources meant for those who have been rendered homeless by terrorists that they are not worried about any 'fateful day'.

Such people use the tales of he Koran and the Bible to deceive the rest of you. It should be quite clear by now that they are not bound by any of the words used in those books. They understand the power that comes with religion and the illusion of religious devotion and use it to their advantage, leaving the rest of you to scramble around in a pit of chaos and degradation.

1. What does it benefit Allah/God to allow people to be displaced by nutcases?

2. What does it benefit Allah/God to allow people to starve to death?

3. Why aren't so called 'good muslims' doing more to stop this from happening - there are Muslims in Nigeria who have earned/stolen billions of dollars why have they not used their resources to ensure that the people in the camps can at least?

4. Why are Muslims stealing funds meant for IDPs?

EbukaLive:
SMH. I have seen this fictional theory of Boko Haram everywhere on this platform peddled by you guys. Your attempts to rewrite history is well noted. You people are trying... I GIVE UP

[b]Mohammed Yusuf founded the sect that became known as Boko Haram in 2002 in Maiduguri, the capital of the north-eastern state of Borno. He established a religious complex and school that attracted poor Muslim families from across Nigeria and neighbouring countries. The center had the political goal of creating an Islamic state, and became a recruiting ground for jihadis. By denouncing the police and state corruption, Yusuf attracted followers from unemployed youths.

He is reported to have used the existing infrastructure in Borno of the Izala Society (Jama'at Izalatil Bidiawa Iqamatus Sunnah), a popular conservative Islamic sect, to recruit members, before breaking away to form his own faction. The Izala were originally welcomed into government, along with people sympathetic to Yusuf. Boko Haram conducted its operations more or less peacefully during the first seven years of its existence, withdrawing from society into remote north-eastern areas. The government repeatedly ignored warnings about the increasingly militant character of the organization.

Boko Haram seeks the establishment of an Islamic state in Nigeria. It opposes the Westernization of Nigerian society and the concentration of the wealth of the country among members of a small political elite

[/b]

EbukaLive:
I am not talking about the deranged terrorists, I am Talking about the people in North east... The human beings living in the North East

The people were sheltering them for a long time; it was the local populations keeping them supplied with fuel and food. It was local boys and young men volunteering their services to kill. So there was clearly some sympathy for the fighters, support for the cause.

That changed when they started killing Muslims as well as the non-Muslims; killing schoolboys and kidnapping girls. Before then their goals were in alignment with a significant percentage of the local population.

It's only now that the area has been destroyed that the people are claiming to be against Boko Haram's goals.

EbukaLive:
Boko Haram is about Islamic Nation? Seriously?

You weren't aware of that?

That's what they've been calling for - an Islamic state in the north east.

That is why they pledged allegiance to ISIS who have created their own Islamic state.

If they all come from Daura then by default they will not be the best that Nigeria has to offer.

A state has some of the lowest literacy rates and amongst the highest poverty rates isn't going to be a haven of brilliance.

If I'm wrong let them prove themselves in their state government first, then they can replicate their success at a federal level.

Labaru666:
But u pple will have to wait until it becomes official not by crude or krook means

Who is 'you people'?

I'm not Igbo, just rational.

Yorubas want their own nation, Igbos want theirs. Even the Northerners want their own Islamic nation, that is what the Boko Haram conflict is about. What is the problem?

P.S.
What are 'crude' tactics? What does 'krook' mean?

nerodenero:
You can't have a nation in a nation. Ignorance is punishable in this case. I have nothing against the actualization of Biafra but displaying that flag in a territory owned by Nigeria is suicidal.

Confederations can work.

And the United Kingdom is a union of four nations with a population less than half of Nigeria's. If they can have a union of nations then why shouldn't Nigeria?

How the internet of things is likely to change life in Nigeria:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-MUW7ayqAI