₦airaland Forum

EzioAuditore:
Well, my point is you can't if you try.

Who has ever tried?

And why would they?

EzioAuditore:
The difference is if the north wants to break away, who will stop us? I am not in support of it but if we were to choose that this is what's best for us as a people then there is nothing you or anyone else can do to stop it because face it, WE OWN YOU B*TCH!

Why would anyone want to stop the north from breaking away?

What has the south benefited from being attached to northern Nigeria?

From the amalgamation until now northern Nigeria has failed to pull its weight.

Onyiridike:
I hope the Niger Deltans are reading this. It is now glaring that Nigeria still exist because of the huge crude oil deposit in your land and once Hausas discover oil, Nigeria becomes history.

My question is: "will they pay back for all the crude oil money that was used to develop the North?"

You already know the answer.

The money wasn't used to develop the north it was squandered on their homes in Abuja, their children's foreign school fees and imported 'luxury' crap.

macof:
First you need to understand the meaning of spirituality, pls take away ur mind from religion.
Spirituality is proved by observation, it's not what you present in pen and paper

The religious society and media has destroyed u

You have no idea where I was raised or by whom - you are not in a position to say what has influenced me.

Clearly I am not an expert on spirituality - could you explain how such things are observed and also relate them to this case where we now know that pesticides caused the deaths.

Thanks.

macof:
you really don't know shit about spirits. You take it all this Christian and media conception of Spirits
Well, spirits are no magical beings that grant wishes or play dance hall. They are incorporeal entities that serve as integral parts of different aspects of nature

To prove the existence of a spirit is to identity the existence of that aspect of nature and understand it's principles, spirits sustain the universe

Am saying I don't know about rain dance neither do you, until you interview a rain dancer you hand nothing of note to say

You can read about Carl Sagan
If world renowned astronomers, biologists and physicists can acknowledge spirituality than you don't hold much on this matter...especially as you don't even know spirituality to begin with

How can I know about something that has never been proven?

What do you mean by spiritual or spirit? You seem keen on talking around the matter.

I don't claim to be an expert on this issue, just as I would not deign to be an expert on other myths and theories.

If you have proof present it. Otherwise you are just as silly as the Christians that you look down upon.

Because time is more valuable than money.

All these silly hair hats these women wear make me laugh.

Doesn't surprise me anymore - there were people on this very forum hailing this thief as a hero.

Radical Islamists would argue that they follow the hadiths to the letter.

Moderate muslims cherry pick that which is most convenient.

It's all a big con game at the end of the day.

9jaforlife:
Joblessness is a disease!!

It's Sunday you clown.

Thank you for your mature, reasoned responses.

9jaforlife:
[size=14pt] Is this the point of your thread?? [/size]

You seem to fight other people's battle so well- far more than the concerned people care about!!

NB: Prejudice is believing something without basing it on reason. That I assumed you were a christian because 99% of attacks on NL Muslims come from christians is GOOD reason.

The point of the thread to discuss a lack of equity and fairness, principles that matter to all human beings but seem to evade you.

macof:
And what do you know about spirituality? not only have you the littlest knowledge of what "Spiritual" is you also don't know the history and evolution it has undergone through ages and civilizations.. You just have a problem with it through your perception but there's more to spirituality than you think

A famous astronomer and physicist once said spirituality and science are not only compatible but the profound source of spirituality

Spirituality has preserved the lives of many before modern scientific methods and still today the ancient sciences can be applied in many occasions


And rain dances to achieve what? Have u ever spoken to one of such rain dancers to know why they dance in the rain? Or u just take delight in making assumptions aimed at attacking a people who are different from you

before ur very elevated medications existed spirituality held the solutions and the human race survived.. If they didn't work you would not have been conceived

Do you have proof of any of these spirit beings? Who created these spirits that you speak of? What purpose do they serve?

Are you saying that rain dances cause rain? I'm sure you are smarter than that. There are people who have died in droughts who pleaded with their various gods for rain, to no avail.

Who is this 'famous astronomer'?

Just because people excel in one field does that mean that their knowledge is complete or that everything that they are convinced of is accurate.

macof:
Spirituality serves identical purpose. But before scientific methods, spiritual methods were used and they wielded excellent results

Scientists refer to myths - Greek myths on many occasion

But you won't see it because you choose to close your mind to it

Spirituality does not exist to establish truth - spirituality is accepting ignorance. The reason why life expectancy was so low for much of human history is because of superstitious, unfounded practices such as trepanning, bleeding and human sacrifice that have no scientific basis.

People used to do 'rain dances' in several cultures - we now know that such practices are entirely pointless.

If you believe that your spirituality will save you then I hope that you never visit doctors, take medication or undergo surgery. Afterall your ancient, unproven practices have worked so well in treating serious ailments such as cancer...

If we are being honest we know that your spiritual cures cannot even deal with malaria.

No such thing as 'hell fire'.

Just a silly ploy used by preachers to scam the desperate.

9jaforlife:
There's nothing prejudicial about this.

Another christian who NEVER sees anything good in others.

That statement is prejudicial.

I am not a Christian.

strawberryinc:
black race, black mentality

Religious myths and superstition are not peculiar to any part of the world.

There is no such thing as 'black mentality', only individual stupidity which you have displayed so well.

ayusco85:
WHO should not piss off malokun o. else the death will visit them .


Africa and their beliefs

It's not just Africans.

Silly belief systems are global, hence why people go to Lourdes in France hoping for medical cures.

Or why people think that a stone statue in Ireland can bleed human blood.

Religious superstition is a global scourge. A constant barrier to truth and progress.

Dyt:
But after the cleansing
The deaths stop didn't it?

Well
We are of diff opinion
Choose to blv anything you want

#teamAFRICAN

It is immoral to promote falsehoods.

What has being African got to be with being willfully ignorant?

What do those who peddle falsehoods have to say when the proof comes out?

How do they constantly sidestep evidence based discovery?

I was being abused in the other thread because I called those who were calling on their religious deities 'backwards'.

The proof is now here. Where are those people defending religious superstition?

9jaforlife:
You sound like colanut- which gets eaten up because of other people's affairs.

Do you read every single thread on FP? Is it impossible for you to skip Islamic topics on FP- which happens to constitute a veeery low fraction by occurrence on FP?

The fact that you're so pained that you can't comment means you would be one person who would gladly desecrate that section if you were granted free entry!! It's very obvious by the fact that you compare Muslims to a girl who walks n*aked in your post. Another christian who NEVER sees anything good in others... The m.ods took that action solely because of people like YOU!!!

I'm not a Christian. You would know that if you were not blinded by silly prejudice.

I usually leave the Muslims alone, I figure there are enough people attacking them but this issue does not reflect well on them at all.

Long or short, all prayers are ineffective - if your god has predestined everything. If he is truly all knowing.

jauntty:
I don't care about who gets what...

I care more about having Technocrats and Honest people at the helms of affairs.

Let's the Change continue.

That change would entail the end of zoning.

The best person for the job.

9jaforlife:
People get banned and such bans are lifted, after which they continue in the old ways for which they were banned. Ifeann is a classic example.

Banning cannot solve the problem. Besides, I don't think you should be so deeply bothered. If there's anything you desperately need to say about Islam and you want to avoid saying yes to the creed, create a thread. Haven't you done just that here?

You should blame those christians who lack respect for others' faiths and throw insults relentlessly at Islam/Muslims as if their lives depend on it.

As for the front page issue; just like regular topics on NL, not all Islamic topics find its way to FP. So I don't see any cause for worry here.

You guys sound like the girl who walks around with a skirt that exposes her groin, buttocks and mammaries but wonders why people are looking at her.

Your inability to see reason is astounding - if you do not want the attention keep your topics away from the front page. Most people won't bother you if you do that - those that do should be banned, permanently.

There are some really dumb people on nairaland.

Between this thread and the one with people defending the clowns in Ondo state who are pleading with their gods because of a mystery illness.

So much backwardness.

olushowunm:
If they need Jesus [a white man god] then why r the whites buying the gods?

Why is what the 'whites' do your barometer for what is right and what is wrong.

Pleading gods is a sign of foolishness. That people are buying souvenirs does not mean that they have any true value.

macof:
And the forward scientific investigation has done what in this case?

Even scientists and researchers don't debunk Myths, many actually refer to myths to guide their research
Many "scientific theories" have been known in spiritual cults for ages...so yh backward because it's ancient doesn't mean useless

The purpose of science is te establish the truth.

To claim that scientists do not debunk myths is an outright lie.

9jaforlife:
The rule of accepting the Islamic Creed before commenting in Islamic section is there for a very simple and clear reason: CHRISTIANS ARE VERY FOND OF DISRESPECTING THEIR FAITH (ISLAM). They post outrighly denigrating insults that are mostly lies. Muslims hardly do this, when they do, it's mostly in response to an insulting post/comment.

These christians dedicate 99.9% of their time to Islam and they hardly ever post anything about their own religion. If they were allowed to freely roam in Islamic section, they would have turned it to 'Anti-Islam' section.

At least they're not prevented from viewing, I think that's good enough. The mods are fair in my opinion.

If Christians (or others) are going out of their way to be disrespectful and have broken the rules then they should be banned.

If the purpose of the Islamic section is self-preservation then even more reason why their threads should not show up on the front page.

Much respect to this man for doing something in his own community and for ensuring it was done to a high standard.

olushowunm:
Cultural and spiritual matters are backwardness? You need to be sent to Irele in Ondo state for re-orientation on what tradition and culture means... U thinks it's kinda Nollywood stunts!

A cultural that ignores scientific investigation and jumps straight to baseless 'spiritual' causes is backwards.

Nellybii:
You are a slave in bondage of inferiority complex. Calling religion backwardness because it isn't your religion. Illiterate you better get some education before you come here to talk trash Idiot.

1. I don't think you know what 'illiterate' actually means. Ironic.

2. All religions expect human beings to play second fiddle to mythical gods - it is the adherents of religious myths who have the inferiority complex they are slaves to silly customs and ignorance, not I.

mhizpeaarl:
emm r they not Muslims
U guys r really picking on me it's not cool

A Fulani would not like to be called Hausa, just as a Bini man would not want to be called Yoruba - irregardless of religion.

All these different groups are silly any how but that is what I have found.