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please don't tell me you think the people were some how black west Africans

yusuf baba: Fulaman more grease to your elbow.,a worthy ambassador of d fula race

you mean the fula people. They are not a race.

A nomadic people are bound to pic up words from their neighbours that over time will change the language and sentence structures of the original speakers. This is evident in many language families in africa.

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Most black people accept life and can move on from hatred because they have not inherited the culture of "conquerism" ( if there is such a word in english)

have you ever wondered why there are over 1500 languages on the continent, if we went around conquering weaker tribes the inevitable result would be forced amalgamations and we would have fewer languages on the continent unlike other parts of the world. We mostly traded with each other and kinda minded our own businessess.

this is not to say there weren't wars on the continent I might add.

noiseless: No need to mention a failed and terrorist state like nigria when you are talking about real countries, nigeria is doomed in all aspect of life.

Hey look on the bright side at least its a doomed "BLACK" state.

Where would SA be without Whites. well probably would be similar to Zambia, Malawi or Botswana and would most likely be a Zulu strong hold with the name the "REPUBLIC OF AZANDA"

andrewza: I would like to point out that there is land reform is SA. But here the White farmer is compensated and the new black owners get both training and support to help them set up. Has for the mines most of them have large number of black share holders. And how any body could support Mugabe is beyond me. He is has(is) murdered his own people for the sake of staying in power and you do know that the western powers helped him gain power.

Ps the chinese cultural revolutions caused the death and suicide of many chinese in the hands of Chairman MAO, yet the West does good business with Chine till this day.

The name of the game is POWER my dear Saffer, justice is an illusion between those who have power and those without it.

andrewza: I can see none of you are from south africa. The blacks have inherited the best medical system in Africa, The infrastructure that is now second to none in Africa, many became high ranking businessmen in large international company's. They have access to any resource, technology, or infrastructure system they want. We have payed them back. And they where smart to under stand they can gain more by working with us.

And that fool Mugaby was put in to power by the so called evil white man. He then turned on them so no wonfer they dislike him.

you know one thing funny from your statement, how come you didn't share this well meaning "knowledge" in the first place with your black south African compatriates. It is now evident that these blacks were able to live side by side, inculcate the 'knowledge base" and you guys become one big happy SA family, but nah the mission was to secure a good 87% of the land mass of SA (including South west Africa/namibia) to yourselfs and everyting in it, not considering that you were less than 10% of the indigenous population.

The plan was to create a 'working-slave' class of people whom you needed to build a viable "capitalist" system hence the abilty for Black south africans to live amongsts you in Bantustans, carry passbooks that restricted their movements to white areas but still have the "priviledge' of working for you in your houses, farms and institutions.

Hmmm and you wonder why with all the "nice" things" they have inherited , they still refer to you as invading foreigners or Mugabe is pissed off at ya'll for manipulating the lancaster agreement.

andrewza: He is a hero and is African dose not mean he is a Hero of Africa

Whats the difference?

Nebeuwa: You are starting to sound like a broken record. Stop blaming the "white man" for all of your ills. Many African states, became powerful when they colluded with the Europeans. Shall I remind you about the Asante Confederacy, Dahomey and Oyo? You say they were forced, I say they found it profitable to sell their fellow African.

Nebeuwa,
Please do not buy into a warped version of history regarding slave trading activities in Africa. The African's that were involved in Slave trading were SLAVE RAIDERS, who were sanctioned by greedy African monarchs to capture "undesirables" and enemy combatants. This cannot translate to an indictment on Africans in general being complacent or supporting the practice as it was understood on the continent.

Nebeuwa: I know the history of Africa and I know the history of slavery in the United States, Caribbean, Latin America and Brazil. Yes, the Europeans are to be blamed for the horrors of slavery, but the African groups that colluded with them shall not be given a blank check. I find them both equally responsible. Was it not some African states who went to war with the Europeans when the Europeans tried to suppress the slave trade when the abolition movement was picking up steam?

Can you name those kingdoms or groups in particular?

Judging from south Africa's history, cape town is the base of most white south Africans, its a port city, duh?

Did any one else notice the crowds at each session for this event are quite few this year compared to previous events.

maybe the attendees are out sight seeing

saw this story on channels.

Hope this deters many of you that think you are invincible and want to go do bad things in other countries. You mihgt get caught up.

See the families you are leaving behind!!!

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The cities are afraid of the influx of "Africans" from other countries that are about to destroy their country.

Polokwane on the other hand don't know much

lol

Unforntunately they prefer Rugby whic is played by heafty White Afrikaaner dudes.

Da infamous: i swear SA girls shape is out of this world,are you one of them?

Beware of HIV bros. dem no dey write AIDS for woman nyansh o!

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]No. mixed people are going to destroy the world someday. IT was mixed peoples who destroyed the Native Americans by carrying small-pox to the New World. The Native Americans were almost disease free. The Europeans on the other hand had lost their tribes by the advent of chrisitanity due to heavy intermixing. Tribes of the Franks, Gauls, Britons, Sanxons, Angles, Jutes, etc are EXTINCT today. the average life expectancy of this new hybrid-european man was only 40 years, by the middle ages, while the natives lived long lives before the diseased haalf-breeds arrived and destroyed them. the europeans had frequent disease epidemical outbreaks in the medieveal times, of some of the worst kinds, the Gods forbid. EVERY YEAR A NEW OUTBREAK! IT IS THE SAME STORY EVERYWHERE! NORTH AMERICA, SOUTH AMERICA, NATIVE ABORIGINES OF AUSTRALIA AND MAORI TRIBEPEOPLES OF NEW ZEALAND, ABORIGINES OF ANDAMAN AND NICOBAR (Jarawa, Greater Andamanese and Senintalese), CHINA (BUBOIC PLAGUE FROM TRADE WITH EUROPE), INDIA (PLAGUE EPIDEMIC OF 1896), CONGO, etc. . Measles was responsible for the deaths of half the indigenous population of Honduras, and ravaged Mexico, Central America, and the Inca civilization.

and finally.....................[size=32pt]AIDS FROM THEM GAY HALF-BREED AMERICANS WHICH IS KILLING MY AFRICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]



this lack of genetic diversity is spread by you fellows to try to mix us. We have survived for past 10,000 years or more and WE WILL SURVIVE ANOTHER MILLENIA! [/quote]You really are a weird dude. Aint nobody trying to mix with or wipe your Hausa azz out.
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[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]No! i get your point but the basic law of nature states that once a species gets isolated into separate sections (usually due to physical barriers such as a mountain range, a rive, climate, etc.), they develop and gradually evolve into Newer species. No. before you accuse me of saying that Hausa is a different species from Han Chinese (which i disagree), i wish to put forward a point. when homo-sapiens evolved from ape man, he gradually spread around all over the world. We were still at that raw stage. Later, this homo-sapiens settled down in different places to form Tribes. The Tribesmen all over the world are purer than hybrid-humans for 2 reasons:[/quote]Am not really sure of the above hypothesis. To repeat my earlier point. There is nothing really like a hybrid human being unless of course you subscribe to the notion that human beings are different species based on racial lines. Human beings are a continium of a spectrum of gradial morphological/physical transformations i.e. ADAPTATIONS. This is different from a spring forward in evolutionary terms.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]1.They were largely isolated before the populations grew. So they were already in that stage of gradual evolution and started developing separate racial characteristics, cultures, lifestyles, and even diets. (The Innuit were/are known to survive almost entirely on raw-meat, something which many of our stomachs cant survive on for the entire lifetime.)[/quote]Racial characteristics are translated as physical ADAPTATIONS based on traits that are naturally selected for survival in a specific condition. They do not make one human purer than another. They are simply changes to the physical as a result of selective breeding and diet. They are not anatomical.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]2.It is also possible that during the evolution stage of apeman to current homo-spien form itse;f, we already started getting isolated. Because Homo Eructus and other Palaeolithic finds have been found across many parts of the globe, ranging from Africa, to Europe and even as far as Vietnam and India. This more plausible and I have another bigger theoretical proof which i will soon publish here on Nairaland. it might sound a bit foolish but it makes a lot of sense.[/quote]Homo sapiens are one species of human that originiate in africa and disperse to other parts of the world to encounter other so called human species i.e neanderthal man and denisova hominin in other parts of the world. Homo sapiens remain the only group that survive in and outside of Africa. The remaining die off. The isolated groups in Africa retain their original adaptations to the environment and so do other several groups outside of Africa. Others retain certain traits and discard other traits as they continue to migrate. The evidence that points to this fact is the largest array of genetic makeup inside of Africa as opposed to outside of it, which gives homosapien its origins in Africa and everyother mutated variant outside of it.
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]now these tribes developed stronger separate racial features but due to interaction between different tribes, the racial evolution stag dropped as diet, migrations, climatic change, etc were faced by these tribes. There were no more any stable conditions. which is how we have existed to date. Being a religious man, to add a touch of spirituality, i must say that the Gods meant us to be as such and our wider spiritual beliefs were the same.[/quote]Again there is no racial evolution state. There are only adaptations that exist which create varieties within a given species. Therefore a racial evolution stage cannot exist nor can it be dropped.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]the mixed races are destroying this natural order of evolution and us tribesmen must unite. There might have been a little mixing done in the tribes, (i say might), but the stronger blood has prevailed and diluted it, so it doesnt matter. The tribes understood it, so till now, we have largely never mixed. The West however has been trying to destroy this natural order of things. [/quote]Human beings align with what they consider as similar characteristics they can relate to in other persons whether it be language, skin color, accent, dressing, food, cultures, e.t.c. However these are conjectures we create in trying to understand and control the world around us. Whether that is a human flaw or a form of self preservation is debatable. The idea of a mixed 'race' of people is simply a way of structuring the world in a way you can understand it or manipulate it. It is not necessarily absolute truth. I will repeat again. Human beings are simply a continium of a spectrum of physical traits that have been adapted, retained and passed on from one generation to another. it does not convey any special status if one trait is absent only in as much as it is related to our conjectures of self preservation.

Nebeuwa: I am intrigued by your theory. And you do have a point. I do feel that the Sahara provided a barrier for the "populations" south of the Sahara in terms of knowledge. While the rest of the world was connected through the silk road and the Mediterranean sea, excluding the Americas, different groups were able to exchange knowledge from one society to another.

That is why these groups had a wealth of knowledge in terms of technology compared to the more isolated groups whose pool of knowledge was quite limited. The Sahara was both a blessing and a curse, because it protect the southern groups from constant invasion and diseases, but it was also a curse, because once the cultures north of the Sahara were able to get past it, they were able to have an advantage over the cultures who had less contact with them.

exactly right. An example would be when civilizations in and around the mediterenean including North Africa were evolving and modern settlements began springing up. A notable civilization would be Egypt. The acquired knowledge of domestication of Horses, Camels and donkeys would largely facilitate trade with neighbouring settlments around the mediternean. This activity would of course transfer knowledge basis via the goods that were exchanged all the way down to south asia.

The interior or Africa south of the sahara and the sahel did not use these forms of transportation( imagine the use of horses and carriages in the thick interior rainforests of Yoruba land 3000 years ago) and so would only be able to travel shorter distances( possibly via canoe or on foot) and acquire/exchange knowledge in smaller spirts.

Nebeuwa: I still ponder if genetics also play a role. When I look at the long distance runners from Kenya and Ethiopia, there success has to be due to genetics. Or what about the height of the Dinka in Southern Sudan, they probably adapted to the harsh climate that they live in.

Humans beings often adapt desirable physical and biological traits tha are suited to their environment. It is not a coincidence that darker people live in regions where the sun shines all year round and the lightest in areas where the sun is much less availble.