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debeey87:
Good morning all, I'll appreciate a review of attached quote(material and workmanship) fair for roofing a story building with area of 228sqm.

What will be recommendation regarding a minimum kingpost. I am not looking to do high roof like people do these days. Kingpost height similar to the one in the second picture is what I am looking at.
recommendations on the type of wood that can last long and against termite are also welcome. Thank you

If na me, I won’t negotiate this nonsense.
There’s a sawmill along obasanjo road, not far from the state hospital Ota. If you cross to the other side, okada guys can take you to another one inside Oloko side.
If you don’t want to go through much stress. There’s a small sawmill at a street along oju ore ilogbo road (Ahmed Akindele Street) . That Ahmed Akindele is a wood seller and you can trust him.
I have a property in Afobaje area. I paid 80k for my woodwork (Initial quote was 250k I think) back in 2016 and used about 60% of the quoted woods, all because of that man. I don’t have his contact again but he’s somewhere along that axis.
Building a property in Ota is not for the faint hearted. I must commend you sir.

Lawyers? Dey play

Coiner:
An engineer gave me this quotation for a soakaway.

16mm rod 25 PC's
12mm rod 10 pcs
Qtr rod 30 PC's
Cement 20 bags
Plank 30 pcs
...
Seen a couple of quotes here and no one seems to be using 16mm. Why's mine different? And it's so expensive.

I just asked for a standard soakaway to carry sometimes a stationary car and human walkabout.

I used 16mm in some of the septic tanks that I did in the past because the spaces also serve as car park. Not sure of the exact quantities of the materials because they were side jobs while the main buildings were being built. Buy your materials yourself and pls don’t suggest lesser materials. A poorly built septic tank/soak away is a disaster waiting to happen.

They all spoke well at chatham house.
May the best candidate wins

FEGEITOK:
You can still get your money.

But this has to be through law enforcement.

I know the FBI doesn't joke with this kind of crime.

Even the Nigerian law enforcement has the capacity to unmask the guys.

But it is totally up to you to provide the details of the complaint for action to be taken.

If you are willing to share details privately with me, it would be possible to do this.

But I respect your right to move on.

Here's what the FBI said following sentencing in a similar case last April.

“If these defendants thought their million-dollar fraud would go unnoticed simply because they targeted a trillion-dollar company, they were sorely mistaken,” said U.S. Attorney Chad Meacham. “The Justice Department will not tolerate fraud against any company, be it a multinational corporation or a mom-and-pop operation. We are grateful to our FBI partners for their work on this case.”

Under US law, its called wire fraud.

I moved on because of my personal circumstance sir. It happened in the uae and I’m currently outside the country.

FEGEITOK:
But you disputed?

What's their definition of undisputed?

Yes I filed for a dispute and possible cashback through my bank because the transaction was not initiated by me.
Visa said that the transaction was successfully carried out using the correct information on the card, no hacking was involved. Hence, undisputed.
The card was used to purchase gift cards which were redeemed same day.

folmus:
Olohun afi ofo ra emi.

May God replenish your pocket.

Amen sir. Thank you

folmus:
@MrOkenwa

Hope you're able to resolve your issue.

Good day sir.
Visa said it was an undisputed payment. So, my request for cashback was declined.
I have moved on.
Thank you for checking on me sir.

#Not related to construction.
I need some opinions here.
My debit card was used for some unauthorized transactions on www.shein.com. I never made any purchase on the website before. Thousands of dirhams had already left my account while I was still in shock and confused on what to do. I eventually blocked the card and I contacted my bank.
I also contacted shein.com. the transaction was confirmed and they said the shipment was done already, so there's nothing they can do from their side. I inquired on the details of the user of my card but they declined to disclose this. they only shared an image with some details blurred. they asked me to go through my bank, to file for cashback. Bank asked me to wait as the dispute has been raised already and the investigation may take up to 6 months. I also approached Visa, they again referred me to my bank. Bank would not even attend to me again as I think I was becoming a nuisance by staying back for any miracle to happen, even after telling me to go and they'll get back to me.
I'm just wondering if there is still something else that I can do to increase my chances of recovering my money, rather than to just wait.
I suspect that they probably bought several units of e-gift cards because I did all I did within 24hours. So, physical shipment couldn't have been that fast. I didn't receive any otp, I didn't give anyone my pw in recent time.

Lol. They shud take a biopsy of the ‘horn’. It’s definitely a distant Mets of a malignancy. Thyroid does this.

olukaygold:
Happy New Year sir!
Thanks for Trusting me, giving my Team and I the opportunity to work for you last Year sir. Thanks for your supports, your words of advice and encouragement sir, it means a lot to me.My Team and I appreciate It all.May God Almighty keep blessing You and your family! You shall reap the fruits of your labor by God’s grace. Amen! Humbly Looking forward to work more with You sir.

You’re most welcome sir.
Our relationship has definitely gone beyond client-contractor kinda relationship.
Bigger and more financially rewarding contracts shall come your way in 2023 by God’s Grace. Amen.

michlins:
thank you for the opportunity you gave us last year. We sincerely hope that you double your faith in us.

Thank you very much

Thank you sir.

Happy new year everyone. I wish you and your family a healthy and prosperous 2023.

akinola98:
Dear fellow Nairalanders

Just an update on the bad roofing work done for me by this quack ( Rotecch) which I complained of, few weeks ago on NL

I spent another 2million naira plus to correct this terrible job done for me by this incompetent fellow, despite paying him over 2 million naira months ago for the same job but he used substandard materials and lack knowledge

The roof job was terrible because:
- no enough wood used for support
- Roof was not slanting therefore retaining water on roof causing multiple leakages
- 0.45mm aluminium was used instead of the 0.55mm I paid him for ( fraudulent)

See steps for correction:

Picture 1 : Original roof retaining water on roof thereby causing multiple roof leakages
Picture 2: All original aluminium roof removed
Picture 3: Non slanting roof…. Lack woods
Picture 4: Non slanting roof corrected
Picture 5 : New roof laid

ROTECCH77, U remember u told NL I owed u 250k balance and I owned up saying it was meant to aid me in correction of your terrible job .. Can u see that the 250k is no where to the additional 2million I have spent…. U are thr one owing me 1.75million now but I let go and leave u in God s hands for justice

I pray that any contractor/artisan that defrauds or collects money from hard working NLers but does terrible work will NEVER know peace or gain/profit �

Rotecch, if u want to see a full video of your atrocities and d correction , u can notify me, I will send it to you ….

So Sorry about this.
Fixing a poorly installed roof is far more stressful. It also puts the roofers at more risk of falls from height, thereby they tend to charge more. More like double expenses for the homeowner. The good thing is that you got it sorted out already and you’re ready to let go of whatever you’ve spent to correct it.
Rotech sir, it’s very evident that the roof was not properly installed. In as much as I blv that errors can occur, even with the best hands, the allegations of using inferior materials, when original ones were paid for is very uncalled for and shouldn’t happen, especially with jobs handled by someone of your caliber. Bigger projects have been credited to your name here.
Kindly sort things out with him amicably Sir.
Merry Christmas everyone.

kopell:
Oga ooo, me so low. Is okay, I notice it’s hard for you to take correction from professional here, even in the process of some of your projects. You most understand the entire blocks you used to build some of your projects, can’t fence other peoples projects. That why I said we should not generalize. You’re comparing cost of building in Akure to other places ko jo rawon na. Savings shouldn’t be a trap of death. I hope you remember Ikoyi gate? To old for person of your age.

Dear Sir, apology for his comment. Omode kii mo eko je, ko ma ra lowo. You are one of the well respected members here.

bobkezel:
It's not false, there's a place I know you can get that kind of house for 800k if you know how to bargain. 12m can get me 16 of that house.

So simple sir. Just use the 800k to buy good weapon and eliminate all the villagers and their entire lineage .
Whoever is planning to build that structure with anything less than 35m has probably not bought building materials in the last few weeks.

Remittance by diasporans is very important to the economy. they're called unsung heroes in the Philippines.
Through my own remittance, I've been able to patronize more than 10 businesses and paid various people to work on my sites.
kudos to all diasporans who are working legitimately for their money.

money121:
Engr.Ayyub win Nigeria Most Respected CEOs Awards
(Manufacturing-Roofing category)
Dedicated this award to all my Loyal Clients on Nairaland those that Trust me with their Hard earned money!!

Please celebrate me, you make it Happend

HAJJI MUFUTAU thanks for your word of advice daily

Congratulations Chief. More wins.

hslbroker2:
I have never done any work for you before Mr Okenwa

Pls.

You are highly wrong bro

Count me out and I don't want to be part of this, I just access this forum for time past.

And for the last time don't mention me again

If u do, I will curse u.

If you don't want God to destroy you and your generations.

I hate when I see a destroyer.

They deserved nothing but curse from God,

I don't owe you, you don't owe me, we have no business together, what is my business with you.

This new year

Don't carry curse

On u and your family

Pls I respect u enough

Try your best to be

Count me out

Not among this rubbish


Merry Christmas and happy new year everyone here

.You wrote about knowing the good people and the bad ones, I aired my thoughts on that, you come change am for me like this.
Anyway, I don't need your curse. keep it within your family. One day, your curse will carry you go where you no know.
Olohun a wa pelu e.

sonnie10:
Vawulence sombori!

I come in peace sir

hslbroker2:
one thing that is ertain here are these below.

There are good peoples here on this forum, there are bad peoples

And there are smart peoples here on this forum.

And remember that on this forum,

This thread created by Hajji Mufutau, is one of the greatest thread on this forum.

There are good people here and bad people.

But if u are diligent enough you will no the good, the bad and the ugly.

thank u all

You're right bros. It's also one of the most unguarded and very forgiving. If not, you yourself and those artisans/vendors with past history of mismanaging clients funds should have been investigated, banned and removed from here long ago. But here you are dishing out motivational quotes. Shey you de whine me ni.

Adedward:
sir, I did not know u visically but I know how much business we have done together, I have done two out of ur project, even when things get as it be I stand, but this man is sayings his hown side, someone dats ask us to stop work for months, and came here and tell me I delayed his work,

Yes you did a good job for me and that’s why I am very surprised and disappointed about the way you’re handling your clients recently.
It’s on this thread that I and probably the client you’re having fallout with copied your contact. Same with other artisans. So, you should know why you should maintain a good reputation here.
There are wonderful guys here, don’t ruin their chances. Olukaygold from Ekiti has been working on my project for over a month and he’s doing a good job for me. If not for this forum, the probability of getting the contract is near zero.
Pls Work on your reputation to safe your career and help others.
Chao.

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Adedward:
. This is Edward o, I am fully here I will be here tomorrow to explain fully , thanks for everyone's for the input thanks , I did roof I didn't run den
I did ur windows I didn't run den so its after I have supplied u all the materials dat I wan to run, i will bback here this morning thanks

Mr Edward, you seem to be getting involved in so many accidents. Especially, each time you have issues with your client.
I'll implore you to call your client, go and conclude the job and apologize to him for wasting his precious time.
These incessant reports would definitely affect your patronage. Unfortunately, I won't be able to patronize nor recommend you to anyone again.
If you can do this to somebody that accommodated you and your apprentice, how much more a diasporan, who doesn't know where/how to find you should anything go wrong.

CivilEngineer90:
even the @Twinskenny himself is a yeye somebody whom I will call a serial robber but that's an issue for another day. He's a very greedy dude who only thinks about himself.

Who's behind this handle?? Anyway, I disagree with you on this.

Successbay:
Good morning Nairalanders,

I made a report about Adedward , an aluminium guy whom I contracted some jobs too since the 6th of August, 2022, based on reaching out to me for assistance and previous work relationship. I remembered quite a number of people on this forum were demanding for his identity and even sent reminders on the status of the job, following a grace period of 1 week after he had delayed for so long to see if he will keep to his promise of completing the job... I was however shocked only two people from the pool of Nairalanders calling for his identity commented on my report/post, quite funny though.. This report was made on this forum on 7th of November, 2022.

Today makes it exactly 127 days after I contracted this job to Adedward and 34 days after I reported him on this platform, with no significant progress made on the job till date.

I remembered him responding to my post, even though some of his allegations were false, I decided not to trade words with him, all I wanted is a completion of the jobs I gave to him in the shortest possible time. He reached out and promised to complete my work within a week of my post.

He came with his apprentice boy afterwards, while I was away in my station outside Lagos, to work on the window nets, he left the boy to do the job. I returned to meet the boy 5 days later, doing nothing after he was partly done with the frame nets which were poorly fixed and uncompleted. The boy was doing nothing, just sleeping and waking up, with my wife taking care of his feeding day and night. He was staying in my BQ. All the while, Adedward refused to show up. Three days after my arrival, I told the boy to leave and return to his boss, since he was literally not doing anything. It was then he told me his oga has instructed him to go get the net materials and that he will be coming with the remaining frames for the window nets. This didn't happen that day and I had to return to my station the next day.

I remembered discussing with him over the phone for the side elbow for the downspout part of the rain water collector, after he told me he was bringing in some boys to complete the rain collector. I even had to send him money for additional 14 Pcs, when he claimed it was not in original calculation, but to my greatest surprise he came around with just 4 Pcs. The boys came and could only do about 10% of the job, cos obviously the rain collector parts he had bought were not complete, as some important parts for joining the gutters were grossly insufficient, in fact the boys complained that the materials were not enough. It was then it dawned on me that he only bought some of the needed materials and dumped them onsite as a pretense that what was left is workmanship.

He, Adedward even came at some time to work on the Toilet doors and did a very bad job of fixing the aluminium doors for the bathrooms, after convincing me to remove 5 ready made doors already installed for the bathrooms, with the promise of giving me better durable aluminium toilet doors. With the exception of the door to the master bedroom which is not completed though, all other doors are with faults, in fact he told me two of the doors can never close except he breaks the already tiled walls for the frames, heaping blames on the tilers and bricklayers, for frames he erected by HIMSELF.

All these were happening, while I was away.. It was very obvious he was avoiding me.. So, last weekend when I was home, I requested to see him unfailingly and he came on Sunday, the 4th of November 2022. I showed him all around the house and expressed my dissatisfaction on the jobs he did for me and why he would leave his boy alone to do the job. Mosquitoes are coming into the house in droves from the side of the net frames, poor quality of window nets used and poor fixation too, the toilet doors are either not completely/badly fixed, the rain collectors is still less than 15% completion, and some joint areas are leaking etc... And of course, still owing me #80,000 refund from the money given to him for the cubicle.. He begged me to give him a week, but I gave him 3 days...

The following day, I didn't travel to my station as expected and waited to see if he will keep to his promise of coming to start the job as promised... Adedward didn't show up till I called him at night, it was then he told me he had a fall from the bike while on his way home and promised to do something about the work the following day...The following day, I called at night again, he said his back was paining him.. asked if he is on admission, he said No, but was taken to an hospital, he doesn't know the name of the hospital and that he did an X-RAY in a Lab , he also doesn't know the name either.. On Thursday, he sent a message that his boy will be coming with the guys to fix the water collector and that he will fix the bathroom doors by himself...

It's a week after his promises, and he has still not shown up..neither his boy nor the water collector guys..


I am sure there are people on this platform that are his friends or close associates, how would you feel if you contracted a job that shouldn't take more than 1 week and it is yet to be completed 127 days (4 months plus and counting) later... long after complete payment and still expecting a refund of #80,000 from the person you gave the job to..

I have exercised more than enough patience and gentleness, and will go through any legal means to retrieve my money from Adedward...

He can hide or run for as long as he wants.. but the law and the works of his hands will catch up with him!

I told him to his face that he, Adedward is not reliable, has no integrity and grossly unprofessional, and it remains so, until proven otherwise!

This is very sad and quite disappointing. I wonder how fast people change. You can give the job to another artisan while you go after him for your full refund.

Well done.

Keyamo is doing one of the most difficult jobs in the world.

These guys are yet to disclose their mission to anyone.
one thing is certain, they're doing all these in their personal interest and ambition, not for Nigerians.

princenomics:
Good evening house, I saw this type of soakway today. I was told it is the latest in town.
How reliable is this and won't it collapse later in future?

Very reliable if done in an area with stable soil. it's relatively quite cheaper. I still have it in my personal build, built in 2014.

Dubai Police officers are very professional.
I was trying to locate an office in Dubai marina. I approached the police officers in their SUV. They took me in their vehicle and dropped me off at the entrance of the office.

Dear homeowners, please endeavour to monitor the people working on your site. Aside from making mistakes while doing their jobs, they could also cause some damage.
I've been battling with water pipe leakage in my newly completed build. It's been very difficult to trace the leaky pipe. most of the jobs were done in my absence.
We've had to excavate all the areas the water pipes run through.
To my surprise, we discovered a leakage under the tiles at the small veranda in one of the apartments.
We discovered that the pipe is burnt. probably due to heat, as a result of cooking by team that lived in the site during the construction. I'm aware that a team cooked in the site but I wasn't expecting them to cook on that spot.
I've spent so much and still spending more to restore this(Cements, tiles, materials), just because someone wanted to save some bucks by living and cooking while working for me. The plumber did some blunders, he claimed to have tested his jobs before flooring the compound but he didn't discover the faults.