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Christianity Etc › Re: Sex Tapes And Depraved Viewers By Deji Yesufu by MuttleyLaff: 8:20pm On Nov 24, 2019
Shaking and rocking tables as usual, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 7:26pm On Nov 24, 2019
MhizVee:
I heard some people say all that we will do in heaven is sing hymns and that heaven is boring, the same God that created the heaven is the same God that created the earth, the earth isn't boring, people dont wanna die, if the earth is so sweet that people dont want to leave, how much more heaven.
Heaven is going on a honeymoon journey, we all are coming back down to earth
Christianity Etc › Re: Former LGBTQ Members Say Their Changed Lives Prove Homosexuality Isn't Permanent by MuttleyLaff: 7:18pm On Nov 24, 2019
kimco:
Correct... So it shocks me when christians critisize islam extremists when they kill homosexuals... Its in their bible to do so as well.

But you know, not following it tells u that even christians hve realised how extremist the *Holy Book* can be as well. Their moral compass, relegated from religion at that point tells them that it simply madness to follow blindly.
Michellekabod2:
Lọrdreéd, MuttleyLaff, budäätum, sọnmväyina, etc please you all should stop engaging jesusjnr in banters so that he will not have an excuse of being too busy responding to you all that he couldn't make time to manifest a miracle when he fails at #deactivateyourmoniker...

He has barely 7 weeks to go...
kimco, you're blindly arguing upandan the thread with shädeyinkä, without even properly understanding what is going on with Leviticus 20:13.

Aside bringing yourself up to speed, on all you need to know about the intricacies of Leviticus 20:13, you come across as a smart and intelligent person, and it's clear from your comments, that I've all so far been reading, that you have your head correctly screwed on right. It is going to be a piece of cake and walk in the park, for someone like you, to gather together and build up all the information about and knowledge concerning Leviticus 20:13. to then make contextual, practical, wise, correct and true sense of Leviticus 20:13. Broden your view, so to see that, then it wasnt a case of the Bible, really being extreme or christians realising jackshit anything.

If not for respecting the wishes of Michellekabod2, who literally as a sort of manner of speaking and result of it, has had my hands tied up and mouth muffled, so not to make any sound, that self-proclaimed prophet jesusjnr would have by now, long time heard and/or had an earful from me.fake arsed fake prophet jesusjnr having the nerve and cheek to be calling someone else though he is right, fake, lol. Both of dem be "ole" thieves ... Nobi until when morning come, pipul go take sabi who be barawo thief nau, lol. Thief saying arm robber dey steal, lol.

"... as you already know, I have been relieved of that work and no more have the liberty to talk about that subject or make comments on the matter"
- Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by muttleylaff: 10:28pm On Jul 28
https://www.nairaland.com/5252047/cultism-spiritual-consequences-deliverance-through/34#80723183

kimco, I hope you appreciate the huge risks I am taking by skating on thin ice, coming to touch on this subject here, especially after already being relieved from talking about it, so my dear brother, I trust you'll understand, if I should at any moment, suddenly clam up and refuse to respond to any of your probing(s) that I know could and/or would get me into very hot unsavoury soup with God.
cc Olivegreen, tiwatenitomi
Christianity Etc › Re: "Samson And Delilah" by MuttleyLaff: 5:55pm On Nov 24, 2019
Eviana:
Ok..I wanted to address these points sir...if you don't mind.
1). Sorry...I meant that I expected the "gif" to be making an appearance..and you didn't disappoint me. Nice one by the way.
That was the first and only gif on this thread, so why, how and where were you expecting the "gif" to be making an appearance from? Also I have never in all my interactions with you yet used a gif, so again why were you expecting one and welcoming not getting disappointed, hmm? Your stas arent adding up here ojaare ma'am, lol

Eviana:
2). Was Samson a Philistine?
Of course, Samson was not a Philistine ma'am. Is the Pope Muslim?

Eviana:
Or was he of a Godly heritage that forbid him from marrying non-believers?
God in Deuteronomy 7:1-3 specified to the Israelites, the nations they should not intermarry from. Philistines didnt make it on the list

Eviana:
Did they serve the same God?
Nope, but I am sure you know some foreign women are prepared to say: "... Your people will be my people and your God my God."

Eviana:
3).Did Samson lose his first wife because he strayed or because she was taken away from and given to his friend as payback for him destroying
Judges 14:15-19 (KJV)
15 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they said unto Samson's wife, Entice thy husband, that he may declare unto us the riddle, [/b]lest we burn thee and thy father's house with fire: have ye called us to take that we have? is it not so?
[b]16 And Samson's wife wept before him, and said, Thou dost but hate me, and lovest me not: thou hast put forth a riddle unto the children of my people, and hast not told it me. And he said unto her, Behold, I have not told it my father nor my mother, and shall I tell it thee?

17 And she wept before him the seven days, while their feast lasted: and it came to pass on the seventh day, that he told her, because she lay sore upon him: and she told the riddle to the children of her people.
18 And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun went down, What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion? and he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle.
19 And the Spirit of the Lord came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, [/b]and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle. [b]And his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father's house.

Judges 15: 1-3, 5-6 (KJV)
1 But it came to pass within a while after, in the time of wheat harvest, that Samson visited his wife with a kid; and he said, I will go in to my wife into the chamber. But her father would not suffer him to go in.
2 And her father said, I verily thought that thou hadst utterly hated her; therefore I gave her to thy companion: is not her younger sister fairer than she? take her, I pray thee, instead of her.
3 And Samson said concerning them, Now shall I be more blameless than the Philistines, though I do them a displeasure.

5 And when he had set the brands on fire, he let them go into the standing corn of the Philistines, and burnt up both the shocks, and also the standing corn, with the vineyards and olives.
6 Then the Philistines said, Who hath done this? And they answered, Samson, the son in law of the Timnite, because he had taken his wife, and given her to his companion. And the Philistines came up, and burnt her and her father with fire.
The answer is all there in the verses you provided now, that Samson lost his first wife because she was taken away from and given to his friend. Her father did not do this as payback for Samson destroying anything, but because Samson after killing those 30 Philistines at Ashkelon, angrily went to his father's home without his wife

Eviana:
So Muttley, (although Samson began the journey toward fulfilling his purpose) I'm just saying that in those above mentioned series of tragic events, I wonder if some of that could have been avoided had he not inter-married?
The Yoruba will say and call it "Ayamo" Samson was destined to intermarry and so he did.

Fyi, he intermarried without breaking any law forbidding him not to marry a Philistine. Philistines were not on the list God one by one, mentioned of nations not to marry from.

Eviana:
Lessons are to be learned (as ensamples) for us modern-day Israelites, you know.
Well, fortunately, Samson will be in the Kingdom, which is the good news.
I could imagine the state of mind of Samson again, especially after the Philistines went up and burned his ex-wife and his ex father-in law to death.

The lesson is a simple, frank and straightforward one, be careful of and be on your guard against the frightful trio, namely: "lust of the eye" "lust of the flesh" and "pride of life"
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff:
OtemAtum:
Who said God is caged here? Abeg don't tell lies against me. It's Jehovah that is currently caged, not God Almighty its creator.
You havent got foggiest OtemAtum, smh. The Self Existing, independent of any other being, Jehovah, unbeknowst to you OtemAtum, happens to be God Almighty, and that will be "El Shaddai" in Hebrew, lol. There is only one God. The Lord our God and Jehovah, is the same and One being. There is nothing like creator about the Lord our God and Jehovah, who happen to be the same and One being.

OtemAtum:
It might seem so, but that's not the case here. If Jehovah your god is not currently encaged, what do I stand to gain by declaring his engagementhuh
You stand to gain prescribed some urgently needed medications.

OtemAtum:
When the truth surfaces
There hardly is any full truth to surface with you

OtemAtum:
it becomes too hot to handle. That's why you couldn't handle the reality of the engagement of Jehovah your adopted god, but I can assure you that with time, you will understand. Peace to you and your generations and descendants. cool
" 20“But those who still reject me (i.e. like OtemAtum) are like the restless sea,
which is never still but continually churns up mud and dirt.
21There is no peace for the wicked (i.e. like OtemAtum)” says my God.
"
- Isaiah 57:20-21
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 3:08pm On Nov 24, 2019
OtemAtum:
Hmm. It's very painful to me that you couldn't see with your inner eyes, else you would have seen Jehovah in his spiritual cage with millions of beings like him who doesn't want the world to be totally directed towards science in understanding what God Almighty is.
OtemAtum, God isn't a bird. God cant be caged. Besides, God loved birds, He created trees, but its humans, like someone like you, who love birds, but invented the cage, just the same and similar way you've invented a spiritual cage for God. Smh. Mtcheew.

OtemAtum:
Currently as I speak and with authority, Jehovah has only spent 3 years, 3 months and 1 day in his spiritual cage. Imagine, calling a prisoner God Almighty. It's a shame! Jehovah, Allah, Moloch and many other gods of science are at the moment held in a spiritual cage which is a vacuum. Pls don't ever compare Jehovah the created one to God Almighty(Mirosh) again, pls, because Jehovah can not even boast of 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the unlimited extent of God Almighty in power.
This is like ranting and raving, as if its someone with a psychological maladjustment problem.

OtemAtum:
if you see me talking about Jehovah, the god of Israel the way I do, it's because he is not God Almighty and he can't even claim to be so at this moment. Jehovah knows his creator and his creator knows him. God Almighty formed Jehovah from a material called tepex and commanded Jehovah and many other early beings like him to go and explore the unlimited planets in the universes. Jehovah chose religious way rather than science. Go and read the Book of Universal History for details, pls.
I dont want to see you talking about Jehovah, the God of Israel anyway way you choose to do
because however way you do, its always end up to be a total load of codswallop. I against my better judgment, just wasted my time to read up you today. You must be high on dry moin-moin leaves to write this uncalled for rubbish. Is it possible to unread your obfuscated garble and claim back my time today, used reading your senseless write up, hmm?

OtemAtum:
May the Light of God reveal the truth to you someday. Peace.
The Self Existing, independent of any other being, Jehovah, who unbeknowst to you OtemAtum, happens to be God Almighty, "El Shaddai" in Hebrew, lol, has no creator. No peace for you, if you deny any of this. No God, no peace. Know God, know peace.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by MuttleyLaff:
blueAgent:
You are confused.
blueAgent these earlier few simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions have resurfaced with one or two more added, were put to you to each and all "conqueringly" answer:
1/ What, between the spirit and the soul, is going to be judged, lol?
2/ If as you claimed, that the spirit is the mind, will, thought, zeal, imagination, then give similar, what the soul is please, lol
3/ What is the distinction or set of distinctions marking the difference between our closely related soul and spirit, lol?
4/ 1 Corinthians 15:45? What to your understanding of that verse, is the glaring difference, in first man named Adam and last Adam's spirits, lol?
5/ Is it true, like you claimed, that it is our bodies that go to Heaven or Hell and not some imaginary soul or spirit, lol?
6/ What, according to your understanding, goes to Heaven or Hell?
7/ Do you believe it is the soul, at resurrection, that goes to Heaven or Hell?

These are questions, if it was me asked, I'll gladly and in a jiff, quickly give my sincere honest and frank answers to. I wouldnt be running scared not wanting to reply to them but be instead, spamming Ihedinobi with spoiling for an argument, unnecessary mentions, seeking occasion for senseless your argument(s) with him

Your modus operandi to simple questions is to, either, misquote them, ignore the questions, run and hide from answering the questions, hide behind a boring and tired phrase like "you are confused" lol. Someone rightly, said to you, that you are confused, which is true, but you without understanding all that means, wants to now use the same line, used for you, on me. What a laugh, smh. Fyi, blueAgent, to be confused can be a good thing sometimes, because having the right kind of confusion, starts the process for developing of wisdom, lol. I am sure you didnt know that, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: "Samson And Delilah" by MuttleyLaff: 2:11pm On Nov 24, 2019
Eviana:
Yes...I expected this from you sir.
What exactly does "Yes...I expected this from you sir" mean?

Eviana:
I think I had been looking at some of the story in the wrong manner.
I beg to differ that you had been looking at some of the story in the wrong manner because I would have said, you've been thinking about some of the story too much and in a way that is not ending being useful, lol.

Eviana:
Maybe I could be looking too deeply
There is nothing wrong with looking at anything too deeply

Eviana:
I just was wondering if Samson specifically had to marry a Phillistine in order to defeat the Phillistines in that earliest scenario.
There was no specified law against marrying a Phillistine

Eviana:
Or could he have married from his own people, and still gone down to Timnath and defeated the Phillistines.
It's true he could have married from his own people, and still go down to Timnah and defeat the Phillistines, but God in His divine wisdom, wants to take the chance and gain advantage from Samson's weakness and/or strong fascination of or attraction to foreign women, lol. God's power is perfected in weakness things going on there, lol.

Eviana:
He didn't get to keep his first wife even after his conquer correct?
Yes, he didnt, and that's because of his straying eyes and uncontrollable third leg, lol

Eviana:
I was wondering if he had a "lust of the eye" problem before he met Delilah...or did that come later.
It's important to me because sometimes we can be called to do something by God, but veer off the track on our way to doing our calling. Or do it the way we "think" God has told us...
Ex. Abraham/Sarah/Hagar/Ishmael (father of nations blessed through his seed scenario)
Not just the "lust of the eye" problem, he had the other two as well, namely "lust of the flesh" and "pride of life" problem
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff:
OtemAtum:
You couldn't swallow the bitter pill that reveals how your god and other small beings like him are currently held in a spiritual cage. That's the truth, the bitter pill. May the light of God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah your god reveal this truth to you. Peace to you and your generations. cool
MuttleyLaff:
Agrogbeide CaveAdullam, yeah, laugh, that's only and all you can do about jesusjnr because he types like a clown and without gumption nor intelligence.

Image123 among others, knows this guy that behaves like a goat without a rope string on. Whenever anyone calls him out, he won't engage but only resorts to posting this ridiculous puerile jpeg and deflecting from the issue on the table.

He doesn't see the forest, for the trees. He has a chip on his shoulder. Slanders people left right and centre. He has a low self esteem so submits cheesy posts, littering the forum with them, fishing for validation and approval from other posters

I have it on record saying I don't read any post Otem puts out because it is always worthless. It is when somebody like jesusjnr, who should know better, decides to stick their neck above the parapet and start to misyarn that I come after the jesusjnr type. I gave this jesusjnr, every opportunity to defend his stances but he couldn't muster the courage to stand up for what he thinks he knows or understand. Each time anyone tries to put a straight stick alongside his crooked stick, he goes jelly leg wobbly and scurries away like a gutter rat. He is spineless and ought not to be reckoned with. Is all that really proofs? Won't stand up in a court of law. Agrogbeide CaveAdullam is intelligient to see through the jesusjnr ruse and smokescreen
OtemAtum, where you saw and read Otem up in the above mention, is actually talking about you OtemAtum, lol. It is true, I normally dont read your posts or I should alternatively say, even if I should read your posts, I dont take them on face value nor seriously.

Do you know why, its because, you see, you greatly enjoy the benefit in being a Belial, this is because it gives you the opportunity to lie, to make up and invent false stories, all in order to deceive, you write exact imitation(s) of God with the intention to deceive or mislead, you tell quarter truths, half lies and so the darkest of all lies. You're a hoaxer and/or impersonator, just as like that author of the accursed book of Enoch is.

OtemAtum, you're wrong in saying the Self Existing, independent of any other being, Jehovah, who unbeknowst to you, happens to God Almighty, "El Shaddai" in Hebrew, lol, has a creator. Do you see your own goal above, lol. You dont know warris going on, lol, you dont know that God Almighty and Jehovah, are the same, one and only being, lol. That's one of the many truths, one of the many bitter pill you find hard to swallow, lol.

It's bad manners and disrespectful to talk about God the way and manner you do. Your lack of healthy, beneficial, good, correct and right understanding of God, is no excuse for your vulgarity. You're better off not posting nothing, if you havent got anything good and correct to post about God.

Saying peace to you and your generations, without truth, is a false peace my friend. You and your generations will not find peace antagonising God. You and your generations cannot have peace with kicking against this God.

God, is not in any and/or nor same category as whatever out there god(s) there are and other small beings like that. Capisce?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fundamental Keys Of Prosperity by MuttleyLaff:
RiyadhGoddess:
One of the pillars of prosperity is prayer. Don’t let anybody fool you that money does not answer to prayer. I tell you Money answers to prayers! Anything that was created, anything that was made answers to prayer both living and non living things answers to the prophetic words. The only issue is that prayer can give you a breakthrough, sowing a seed can give you a breakthrough but prayer alone cannot give you prosperity, breakthrough doesn’t equal prosperity.

Please say this confession to yourself “money come to me, I summon you, from anywhere you are, from the four corners of the world, I call forth resources, my bank shall be full, my account shall be full, I call forth the resources today, just as God said let there be light, I say right now, let there be resources, in local and hard currency, I summon the resources in the name of Jesus”.

Money answers to prayers but not prayer alone.
"So when the money failed in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came to Joseph and said,
“Give us bread, for why should we die in your presence? For the money has failed.
"
- Genesis 47:15

Dont get me wrong, dont take this as a criticism or take it personal, neither see it as being pedantic fault-finding either because this is a brilliant and beautiful series of post providing useful and/or interesting information, but you just seem to have a higher opinion of money than it deserves, you seem to attach too much importance to having money, in constrast to having wisdom, positive or the right intellect, correct knowledge, good decision making etcetera. I am sure from that singular above Genesis 47:15 verse, it is observed that you might have all the money in the entire world wide, but if you, when money fails, hadnt the sense and be sensitive to the Holy Spirit prompt, to go to Egypt, you will starve and unceremoniously there and then just die of hunger, lol

I am noticing you are still repeating this "attaching too much importance to money" line again in your subsequent posts below. If I were to be a betting person, I can bet my right ball, you'll agree and accept that in the light of lottery millionaires going broke and loosing everything, having once before good marital relationships go sour etcetera, contrary to King Solomon's Ecclesiastes 10:19 money really money doesnt answereth all things. Money only answereth all things, in the context of a feast, lol. Thats a word right there, for the wise, lol, just saying, before someone starts quoting and taking Ecclesiastes 10:19 literally, lol.

RiyadhGoddess:
You know When God wants to teach you a lesson sometimes, the doors that are usually open will just close so that you will know that of a truth only God could have done it because God is not ready to share His Glory with anybody.
Wasnt impressed with the way you picture God to look like a megalomaniac here. Sorry, just doesnt wash like that, biko, abeggy.

RiyadhGoddess:
Who says prayers doesn’t work? Don’t let motivational speakers deceive you oh, don’t let canal men deceive you.
I am not aware of motivational speaker(s) who says prayers doesn’t work, but hey, arent you yourself being a motivational speaker here? With how you with your post(s) are trying to help others to improve in some way, with regards to prosperity and/or financial wisdom, hmm?

RiyadhGoddess:
The canal man cannot understand the things of the spirit because they are spiritually discern.
This is one out of the many very favourite cop out lines used when struggling to explain spiritual subjects or issues, lol

RiyadhGoddess:
My brother was so heavy in his spirit that he couldn’t pray, he couldn’t do nothing but he also understood something. He brought out his CD and started playing the song “You are Alpha and Omega, we worship you our God, you are worthy to be praised”. 5 minutes it was playing, 10 minutes it was playing, 30 minutes it was playing. He knew that the atmosphere wasn’t yet right. 45 minutes it was playing, 1 hour it was playing, 2 hours it was playing, 2 hours 30 minutes it was playing, He just laid down on the floor of his room, 2 hours 45 minutes he was still there worshiping. The moment it was the 3rd hour, the Lord spoke to him, “Go tomorrow morning speak to mr so so so”.
The following morning, he rose up, had his bath and went to this person whom he knows is a ravenous bird, a very stingy man
Those in the know, know this is what's called, creating the atmosphere for the miraculous and prepping the place up for the strong mighty move of God, lol. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know. Your brother is a dangerous man ooo, he is going to cause problems and/or cause adverse consequences in realm of spiritual darkness because of stumbling on this light and so on to a good thing, lol. Praise God. Alleluia.

RiyadhGoddess:
Aca gum times 10, very very stingy man. If you understand the scripture about the ravenous bird you will get what I’m saying. The ravenous bird does not have enough for himself, the meaning of ravenous is pursue, anything you keep, it consumes it. They are never enough. To know such people, set food before them, before you go to the kitchen and come back, the food is gone. You will be like “ah ah didn’t I give you food and you Will hear I’ve finished that one...”
This man was a ravenous but a ravenous can be a channel in the hand of God. The man has never given my brother 10kobo before, he has never given him 15kobo before but my brother went to him as instructed by the Lord and he said please sir, I am in need of half a million naira, please borrow me that money, I will pay you back at the end of the month.
The man looked at my brother, bent his head, raised his head and bent it again, brought out his cheque book from his drawer and wrote a cheque of 600k naira and said to my brother, take it, you can go, it is not a loan, it is a gift!!!
What does "Aca gum times 10" mean? Or did you mean to type "Association of Chartered Accountants gum times 10" ni? I have family members who are accountants and at all levels of the profession, and they arent the very least, at all, stingy now, kilode, lol. Educative and good test-ti-mo-ni, good testimony all the way through.

RiyadhGoddess:
Everyone reading right now, I declare a supernatural debt cancellation in the name of Jesus!
I speak over every one of you, supernatural provisions, supernatural debt cancellation in the name of Jesus
!!!
[img]https://s1/images/stirringMuttleylaff.gif[/img]
Is this really necessary, hmm? Of course, yeah, maybe for baby believers
Lets cut straight to the chase now ojaare, lets be real here, the antidote for the above, is found in Matthew 6:33, lol. Abi, I lie?

PS: If opportuned, if time be an ally, I will constructively comment similar on your other and remaining, edifying (i.e. as in meaning, building others up), second, third and fourth posts, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 10:48am On Nov 24, 2019
aishauju:
That's is not how drop a point about trousers. He should give his clear proofs.
That is how to drop a point about trousers, its be high on Oshogbo paw paw leaves, then drop your trousers and pull nonsense bullshit like this, out of your rear back, where the sun dont shine on, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 8:10am On Nov 24, 2019
bereanway:
This pastor
He must have been high on Oshogbo paw paw leaves when he typed that pulled out of your rear back comment, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: "Samson And Delilah" by MuttleyLaff: 7:42am On Nov 24, 2019
Eviana:
I agree thay Delilah was not God's choice for Samson.
That was Samson's lust that motivated his choice.
There is nothing wrong in having lust. We just have to be mindful and/or careful, that it is a right lust, lol

Eviana:
God had laid in Samson's heart to deal with the Philistines..
"1Again the Israelites did evil in the eyes of the LORD, so the LORD delivered them into the hands of the Philistines for forty years.
5You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.
"
- Judges 13:1 and 5

It is true God had laid in Samson's heart to deal with the Philistines, but Samson too, was destined, willing and/or wanting to deal with the Philistines. With Samson, on the scene, it is the time for the reversal of Israel's fortune, lol.

Eviana:
but I was just wondering if he had to marry a Philistine in order to attack the Philistines?
Why not marry a Philistine in order to attack the Philistines? It is not like, Samson broke any law in marrying a Philistine or did he now, lol?

Eviana:
His parents thought that he just wanted to marry from the heathen...not knowing the full gist of what was to happen.
Was just thinking about that.
His parents were forgetful and didnt pay attention to the last part of the Judges 13:5 prophecy, lol

Eviana:
Not trying to cause confusion about the scripture though
Causing confusion can be good sometimes, as causing the right kind of confusion starts a developing of wisdom, lol.

Eviana:
but I probably need to research more to get clarity on that because it is important to me.
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
I am not understanding what specifically you say you need and/or want to get clarity on, hmm? You need to research to get clarity on particularly what?
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 12:24am On Nov 24, 2019
bereanway:
Not too long a man of God said a statement that looked like no lady that wore trousers ever made heaven......
[img]https://s5/images/soyemi.png[/img]
It was last week or so ago.
He is called Evangelist Dapo Soyemi, he is called pastor Dapo Soyemi.
We dont know now sef, which one he even thinks he is, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by MuttleyLaff:
blueAgent:
It's obvious you did not read the article you just jumped into the argument .

You can refer back to the OP to understand what a Soul is.

Psalm 35:9
And my soul shall be joyful in the LORD; It shall rejoice in
His salvation
.
"I understand your confusion you seem to believe the lie that the Soul or spirit of man is what goes to Heaven or Hell.
That's not true, all this false teachings were brought into Christaintity by pagans.
The truth is, it is our bodies that go to Heaven or Hell and not some imaginary soul or spirit
"
- Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by blueAgent(m): 8:16am On Nov 16

"What do you think is the Soul?
and if what goes to Heaven or Hell is the soul then why do we have a resurrection?
"
- Religion / Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by blueAgent(m): 9:28pm On Nov 18

Please dont insult me by saying that it's obvious I did not read the article and that I just jumped into the argument and dont patronise me with saying to m: "you can refer back to the OP to understand what a Soul is" because I did, with great eagerness and/or enthusiasm read every single comment you made on this thread, I then, was about going to order a chilled bottle of orijin plus a truckload of kolanuts for you, but then you started dropping embarrassing clangers, some like with the above emboldened and/or underlined text, at where you began to introduce some of the confusion kumulus observed of you and you even displayed your unawareness of simple facts about the physiology of man's body, soul and spirit.

As I've previously said before, I was enjoying and liking your each of your posts until when scrolling upwards to read more, I bumped into you confusing yourself that already decayed and/or decomposed human being bodies will make heaven or the lake of fire. You actually typed that its a lie that the soul or spirit of man is what goes to Heaven or Hell. I balked at that point in time, and said to myself, blueAgent at this point ooo, YOYO, as in meaning, blueAgent you're on your own, lol, me I no get hands for the mata with you.

For information, what all the interested parties are after, is the soul of man. It is not the body the body of man they are after, it is not the spirit of man they are after. It simply is the soul. It is why God, is in the business of paid the price for human souls and the devil equally, is so much interested in human souls too, lol. It really somewhat looks like, it is a race to the end, for the souls of man, lol

Matthew 10:28 states "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." The "body in hell" in that verse applies to the bodies that havent gone through the state or process of rotting or decomposition and become dust, through the action of bacteria, fungi, ants etcetera, lol.

blueAgent the earlier few simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions have resurfaced with one or two more added for you to all "conqueringly" answer, lol:
1/ What, between the spirit and the soul, is going to be judged, lol?
2/ If as you claimed, that the spirit is the mind, will, thought, zeal, imagination, then give similar, what the soul is please, lol
3/ What is the distinction or set of distinctions marking the difference between our closely related soul and spirit, lol?
4/ 1 Corinthians 15:45? What to your understanding of that verse, is the glaring difference, in first man named Adam and last Adam's spirits, lol?
5/ Is it true, like you claimed, that it is our bodies that go to Heaven or Hell and not some imaginary soul or spirit, lol?
6/ What, according to your understanding, goes to Heaven or Hell?
7/ Do you believe it is the soul, at resurrection, that goes to Heaven or Hell?

These are questions, if it was me asked, I'll gladly and in a jiff give my sincere honest and frank answers to. I wouldnt be running scared not wanting to reply to them or be instead, spamming Ihedinobi3 with your spoiling for an argument, unnecessary mentions, seeking occasion for argument(s)
Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Daniels: Sacked Dunamis Pastor Blasts Pastors. Calls Them 'Businessmen' by MuttleyLaff:
nelsonoba:
If you are confident you're not the one with the sawdust in your head, then why don't you prove your useless theory and start a church and be successful with it for 10 straight years? Do that to prove it, and we will come and bow before you and accept your philosophy. Otherwise, shove your useless philosophy we don't need it! Empty cymbals making the loudest noise!
Look at you, you know how to perfectly say someone else isnt using their brains, but when you're reminded that, its sawdust you have for your brains, you're in denial and dont want to accept its true, lol. Why should I go start a church, you think I long to exploit others as a source of regular income ni, lol? Or is it because I am that desperate for a guaranteed meal ticket ni, hmm? Besides all that jagbanjatis sef, please nelsonoba, show me, where in clear and no uncertain terms, anyone is mandated to go start a church, hmm?. Dont you know we are church, we are ekklesia, ni? Ogbeni, nwanne, Chief nelsonoba, for your information, ekklesia is not something you start, ekklesia is a family you belong to angry angry angry

You with your "... do that to prove it" satanic speak, talk like, as its the Devil speaking. Listen my friend, à la 2 Corinthians 2:17, unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, as those sent from God, and with Christ’s authority, knowing that God is watching us, lol.

nelsonoba:
If it is easy, then go and pray for a dumb or blind or paralysed person and let us see them healed na! Because you think all the millions of people you see thronging some of these churches don't recognise supernatural phenomena that they see at times in these places? You believe you know what happens in every church including places you've never been to?? Can't you see the level of your sensibility? Do you appear wise to even yourself? And the worst thing is that many of the people like you who try to form "intellectuals" and fight everything Christianity are not even half as educated as some of us that despite everything we still acknowledge God and are humble enough to know there is so much about God we don't know or understand. Can you explain how you managed to keep breathing oxygen while you were asleep and unconscious last night? Can you tell us the exact volume of oxygen you used between 12am to 6am this morning? What do you even know or understand about life? And with all your gross ignorance, you still have the guts to lecture us about who God is or is not?? Please go and park!
The sheeple are still asleep, so I am here to wake them up, because once awake its hard to go back to sheeple sleep, lol, but look at you, you dont WANT the telling it, like it is, and all because, you can’t take it like it is and this why you have to interrupt facts and truth posted on the thread with all this your, not needed ranting and raving. Shior and shame on you.

If you dont like tables being shaken, then please go and park yourself somewhere else on another thread, that will pander to your roped and/or baser instincts, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 12:05pm On Nov 23, 2019
bereanway:
If you don't wear trousers and you wear men's face cap or t-shirt nkor? elaborate.
MuttleyLaff:
That point is not solid, it is weak, lame and limp, because are you saying Mrs nlPoster or Mrs bereanway and any of the Misses nlPoster or little female bereanway, dont wear and/or havent ever worn a pair of trousers/pants ni?

Do nlPoster or bereanway doubt the Christian profession of Mrs nlPoster or Mrs bereanway, when or if they wear your male t-shirt, male polo shirt, male boxer shorts, wrap your male towel round themselves, put on your male socks, put on your male jogging bottoms ni, hmm? lol. I am sure yall are beginning to see how out of place as to be amusing, all this much ado about nothing brouhaha is beginning to look now and how you've misunderstood what really was going on with the wearing of trousers cross dressing issue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by MuttleyLaff:
blueAgent:
You have been defeated just accept the fact .
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Defeated? Defeated how and/or defeated in what exactly please?
How I desperately wish I could say about you, that you know how to read and understand the Bible, but you dont. Those tips, rules 1-6 who've, in a conspicuously and even obviously offensive way, shown contempt for each and all of them, lol.

"First you need to understand that the word spirit when used in the Bible can mean 3 different things *Which are a living being like God, Angels,
*It can mean the mind, will, thought, zeal, imagination
"
- Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by blueAgent(m): 7:38pm On Nov 17

"How does that explain or mean that the spirit taken by God are still existing?"
- Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by blueAgent(m): 11:15pm On Nov 19

Please sir, Mr "you have been defeated just accept the fact", here are a few simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions for you to "conqueringly" answer, lol:
1/ What, between the spirit and the soul, is going to be judged, lol?
2/ If as you claimed, that the spirit is the mind, will, thought, zeal, imagination, then give similar, what the soul is please, lol
3/ What is the distinction or set of distinctions marking the difference between our closely related soul and spirit, lol?
4/ 1 Corinthians 15:45? What to your understanding of that verse, is the glaring difference, in first man named Adam and last Adam's spirits, lol?
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 8:39am On Nov 23, 2019
aishauju:
Has Dickson ruled for 8years?
Seriake Henry Dickson, assumed his role as the Governor of Bayelsa State on 14 February 2012. That's over 7 years, almost 8 years ago, isnt it? You see how PDP got punished at the polls by APC, hmm? 20 year record flushed down the drain just like that. Pesin wey after hin port from PDP in 2015, nahin come win the election, lol because pipul no wan join hands with Dickson make hin man win, dem be put front a Dickson antagonist, and Dickson didnt want having any of that kind nonsense, lol. PDP just shot itself in the foot in Bayelsa ojaare ni, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by MuttleyLaff:
blueAgent:
I never took any Cautionary advice.
You are taking my cautionary advice and you're doing your damnest best to heed to my kind and brotherly warning too, which is good, is very good of you, lol

blueAgent:
if you have nothing reasonable to contribute stop been a distraction to others.
I have reasonable(s) to contribute, but then someone, might just again, make a hurtful remark, call what others like me, reasonable contribute, crap. C'est la vie. Such is life, that's life. lol. Fyi, certain distractions, protects others, from other distractions, besides that, a single distraction is much and far better than millions, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Man And Satan Have Immortality? by MuttleyLaff: 10:30pm On Nov 22, 2019
blueAgent:
You don't fail to amaze me.
Nothing new about that, because believe it or not, as it happens, sometimes I surprisingly amaze even myself too.

blueAgent:
You can go ahead with your threat to expose me because me I have nothing to hide.
I know you'll take to my cautionary advice, lol. So you have nothing to hide? Then you can pull your pants down or let me have your bank card PIN number, hmm? lol. A single naive misdemeanour discovered is enough to create doubt and loss of credibility, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff:
aishauju:
Will he sit like a homeboy for more than 3 hours? He can swallow that for the moment before GEJ and OBJ leave. It is better I sit like a homeboy in my house to gain privileges from my superiors or show them respect....Anyway shey he is going back to the house ABI?
To gain privileges ke? I am guessing you aren't fully informed about the politics and ratfucking, tried to be played in Bayelsa State on the 8 years sitting governor? lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 5:49pm On Nov 22, 2019
aishauju:
He should sit well like a staff, not like an MD.
Sit well like a staff and houseboy bombom or slave abi, in his own home, yeah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Daniels: Sacked Dunamis Pastor Blasts Pastors. Calls Them 'Businessmen' by MuttleyLaff: 2:35pm On Nov 22, 2019
KingWarri:
You are one of the gullible fellows. Keep deceiving yourself. That man is a wolf in sheep clothing.... He knows religion is a business yet he jumped into and even carry out so many damn misconduct now is coming out to present himself as a righteous niggarrr....
"... You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time "
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Aug 26

As regards the alleged damn misconduct accusation, there always are two sides to an allegation and/or story, so I repeat that, I would like to know the truth, know how true it is, he allegedly was sacked for gross misconduct, cheating and stealing of funds donated by parishioners. It for all I know could be a witch hunt. It could be trumped-up charges that are untrue and made up in order to unfairly have him punished.

KingWarri:
F0ck Off
If you have any regards for yourself my dear nwanne friend, you'll respect yourself, mind your language, your tone and watch that gutter tongue of yours,
Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Daniels: Sacked Dunamis Pastor Blasts Pastors. Calls Them 'Businessmen' by MuttleyLaff:
nelsonoba:
And if you think it's very easy to start a church and be successful, then why don't you start one yourself and show us an example? Do you know there are over 200,000 registered churches in Nigeria, both real and fake combined? How come out of over 200,000 there are not up to 100 churches that have become so successful that so many people know of them like Dunamis, Winners, Dominion City, Redeemed, etc??

But your brain will not allow you do the maths to see reality. Please go and start one church let us see how easy it is!
You must have got sawdust for brains, thats why you CANT see that organised religion is one of the lucrative and most viable business in Africa. The savvy, the sharp guys, like at KICC, RCCG, Winners, Dominion city and others are making a killing. Do you know the amount that is remitted regularly from parishes to HQ at Winners and RCCG, erhn? You're a sheeple, things like that dont concern you, lol
I would like to know the truth, how true it is, he allegedly was sacked for gross misconduct, cheating and stealing of funds donated by parishioners

nelsonoba:
And for your information, there are churches like Winners, Dominion city and others that I know of where their G.O.s don't collect any salary. They are entitled to salary, but they have refused to be collecting it for many years till date just as a sign to show that their faith is in God, and God blesses them through other sources including from members and non-members. Some of these GOs have businesses that generate money for them. Some of them have hundreds of people on scholarships.
It's true that some G.Os don't collect salaries they are entitled or even have refused collecting salaries for many years till date, not because as a sign to show that their faith is in God, but they know they take advantage of benefits in kind, also called fringe benefits. There also are perquisites and/or perks they have access to.

nelsonoba:
But people like you and Daddy freeze will not open your eyes to see the truth. All you know and talk about are the fake pastors who are not there for God. Why don't you ever talk about people like Apostle Suleiman who has hundreds on scholarships and provides direct employment to many people from his businesses outside of his church?? The earlier you stop deceiving yourself to think all pastors are fake, the better for you and your daddy freeze
"... You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time "
- Religion / Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Aug 26

More grease to Apostle Suleiman's elbow then, is all I have to say to your comment, aside my above quotation, lol. Peele for the obvious "sifia" pains
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 1:50pm On Nov 22, 2019
OtemAtum:
You're just judgemental and full of yourself. You don't want to leave false knowledge for the true one. You don't want to evolve in your mind. At least you should be feeling the imprisonments of Yahweh and his counterparts at this moment, but if you are not feeling it, it simply shows your spiritual blindness. At this age of enlightenment, you couldn't decipher between the truth of history and fantasies. That's strange!!!

May I let you know that your descendants shall read this truth and say, God Almighty the Creator of Yahweh is the totality of existence. People to come will see your posts and say, MutteyLaff was presented with the opportunity to be evolved in his mind, but he bleeped up.

I am PEACE personified. I have come to bring peace of mind into the lives of many like you. I have come to remove the unnecessary fear of the in existing hell fire from the minds of our descendants. So if you seek peace, you can always get it with me. Peace to you brother.

Anyway, may the LIGHT OF GOD ALMIGHTY which created Yahweh your god open your inner eyes and reveal the truth to you concerning the present states of Yahweh your god and many other gods of religions. Aseee!!!
There is only one God. The Lord God is One. Amen.

You say I am being judgmental and full of myself because the truth is a bitter pill for you to swallow, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs: Understanding The Wearing Of Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 1:13pm On Nov 22, 2019
aishauju:
Dickson should have been coded
If Dickson had even sat on the floor cross legged, the world will still have something to complain about
Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Daniels: Sacked Dunamis Pastor Blasts Pastors. Calls Them 'Businessmen' by MuttleyLaff: 11:51am On Nov 22, 2019
generationz:
Come which side are you on? angry
This your post is confusing me to be honest.
Always on the side of Truth and the side of want to hear and/or know both sides of the story before making judgments.

There is nothing confusing in asking sincere honest easy simple straightforward questions, my dear, besides, it's said, confusion is the beginning of getting wisdom, so good post is confusing to you then.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 10:13am On Nov 22, 2019
OtemAtum:
On what authority do you stand to call my knowledge false? Have you read the Book of Universal History which contains the origin of your god and millions of other gods like him? Do you even visit the spiritual realms on daily bases to see the state of beings of all gods, the religious gods and the gods of science? Can you see Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Enlil, El, Ahura Mazda and millions of past gods in their present state? You can't see all these things, yet you can challenge the Authority of me Otem, who have been covered in the Glory, Might and Power of all gods of science to bring the truth of the universes to the world and to reveal the state of all the gods who operates through the eyes of religion.
Currently as I speak, Yahweh your god and Allah the Muslim gods are presently in a spiritual cage. Pray maybe your inner eyes could be opened like mine to see the debilitating state of your god in his spiritual cage.
Yes, I have read the Book of Universal History which contains distortions, lies, over stretched imaginations, bloated fantasies and sheer just delusions of magnitude scales, and as I previuosly have kept on saying, you are our own Nairaland resident wannabe Enoch You are mimicking that accursed book of Enoch. Your Book of Universal History and your loads of other trash writings are put together in order to entertain and/or ridicule. All of them and the BoE, have a very good place to be, and thats to be each and all flushed down the toilet. Good riddance to bad rubbish

OtemAtum:
Peace.
How dare you say peace, when there is no peace inside you. Your heart is in a state of great disturbance, extreme confusion and/or incalculable uncertainty, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 9:50am On Nov 22, 2019
OtemAtum:
God is not god o. God Almighty the creator of Yahweh the bible god is not an entity whereby we can describe using the word beautiful or ugly, rather It is the totality of existence and everything in existence is a part of it. Beautiful or ugly depends on your own subjective views, since you have only seen less than 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% of Existence which is God.
As for Yahweh, the god of Judah, being ugly or beautiful, well, I'll say we'd rather use the terms ugly or handsome for him, since he's a male. When Yahweh was created by God Almighty, he isn't that handsome and he is not ugly. If you have seen Gundogan, the manchester city player before, then we can go ahead to describe Yahweh(Mosheh) in his last reincarnation to the world about 4000 years ago. He is just a little bit less handsome as Gundogan in my own subjective view though. They share many other resemblances.
You have a false belief in your knowledge of God. You are not to be taken seriously, when its talking about the Living Almighty and Great Self Existing one and only God
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2019
Grupo:
Blow jọ́b is important to me.

But I'll be happy to accept God as my personal lord and savior, on one condition.
Blow jọ́b should not be important to you, because it is a shadow of the real thing. There is something and quite a lot more that is more powerful, more delighful and more exhilarating than overrated blow jọ́b
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Ugly Or Beautiful? by MuttleyLaff:
Grupo:
God didn't plan anything for you, bro.
You're dead wrong, lol

Grupo:
In heaven, you will only be clapping and singing hymns till eternity.
"But the meek (i.e. the humble) will inherit the land (i.e. the earth) and enjoy peace and prosperity."
- Psalm 37:11

If you didnt know that Heaven, is a honeymoon trip, gone on and to return back from, come down and back to earth to, then you seriously are in dire need, to go on a speed/crash course, to learn on how to, on all levels, understandably read the Bible. C'mon now, you do know that after the honeymoon in heaven, everyone is coming back to earth, hmm or didnt cha know, lol?

Grupo:
That doesn't sound like what a full grown African like me would love to do till eternity.
You love to think you know, but you really and at all havent a clue. You have no idea, lol. You sound like a full grown ignoranus African.

hopefulLandlord:
Even the gates are made of pearl, makes you wonder why they need a gate lmao! to keep outsiders getting in? or to keep a bored Muttleylaff's soul from escaping the eternal boredom heaven has to offer?
"9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came to me and said, “Come, and I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.”
10 The Spirit took control of me, and the angel carried me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed me Jerusalem, the Holy City, coming down out of heaven from God
11and shining with the glory of God. The city shone like a precious stone, like a jasper, clear as crystal.
12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates and with twelve angels in charge of the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of the people of Israel.
13There were three gates on each side: three on the east, three on the south, three on the north, and three on the west.
14The city's wall was built on twelve foundation stones, on which were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
21The twelve gates were twelve pearls; each gate was made from a single pearl. The street of the city was of pure gold, transparent as glass.
25 The gates of the city will stand open all day; they will never be closed, because there will be no night there.
"
- Revelation 21:9-14, 21 and 25

"God blesses those who are humble, for they will inherit the whole earth."
- Matthew 5:5

Contrary to your false and/or inaccurate account of things, the pearly gates, as you can read in Revelation 21:10 and 25 above, are not in heaven. They are pearly gates that are part of a city that comes down from heaven, lol and fyi, the gates will always be open, lol. Lastly, another fyi, is that the gates serve as protection from outside attack, not to keep anyone in and their numbers of twelve just signifies the twelve apostles and/or twelve tribes, by whom are the means one qualifies to enter the city with, lol

hopefulLandlord:
heaven is so great that a third of the angels got pissed off lol
It's the third of the angels loss naah, nobi so?

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