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To Our Christian Brethren

jesusjnr:
Lol!

The gay apostle finally remembered you still existed.

You should rejoice and be glad that you are suffering persecution for righteousness sake.

You know I had strongly persuaded you to avoid him on the cultism thread, because of the importance of that thread, but since that is by the way now, I beseech thee my bro, let the gay apostle know no rest unless he repents and turn away from his wicked and abominable ways.

As for that other one, he can say anything to defend the grace of hell fire, so don't expect anything else.

God bless.

jesusjnr:
That's a food for thought.
God bless.

Preciousgirl:
Is Missing The Opposite Sex Sinful/lustful?

Preciousgirl:
Have I sinned by missing a male friend?

Preciousgirl:
I am a married woman.

Preciousgirl:
What should I do?

malvisguy212:
he mater tire me. because he is not under sharia law, let him go to Saudi Arabia and break there law , may be his only defence, he is not under sharia law despite the fact that he has knowledge of this law.

jesusjnr:
Have you now become a God-hater?
What have you learnt from the Paul thread so far for you to ask me that question?

malvisguy212:
may be you are right. but that brother keep repeating the same thing .

malvisguy212:
this will be my last post on this thread.
in James 2 , it is very clear that James audience has the same mind set as you guys. James use rahab the prostitute to illustrate his point, a shame to people who claimed to be save. James audience thought that good work will earn them eternal life, so James ask this question :
James 2:25-26 In the same way, was not even Rahab
the prostitute CONSIDERED RIGHTEOUS for what
she did when she gave lodging to the spies
and sent them off in a different direction?
As the body without the spirit is dead, so
faith without deeds is dead.

wasn't rehab the worst ? ( a prostitute ) how then was she considered righteous by this Jews ? was she justified by faith ? or work ? if you claimed that you have done good deed that will earn you eternal life, rahab the prostitute has done far greater.


How is a person saved? “For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.” Salvation is a gift. It is free (paid for by the blood of Christ). All the sinner needs to do is to receive that gift by faith.

a believer must performed Good work to show the evidence of his Faith. work in this context is not the kind of work that will earn you eternal life, you do Good work because you are save.

James 2:3-4 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or
“Sit on the floor by my feet,” have you not
discriminated among yourselves and become
judges with evil thoughts?

this passage show the kind of work James had in mind.

Niflheim:
This is not your every day imbecility................................................................THIS IS ADVANCED IMBECILITY!!!


FULL STORY:

A Mormon ‘church’ in Minnesota made local news after accidentally publishing a photo of Ewan McGregor portraying the Star Wars character, Obi-Wan Kenobi. This is what happens when the Second Commandment isn’t obeyed.

You know, like…don’t craft images of God. It’s going to go poorly.
It was funny enough for some that the local news picked it up.

Seriously, people. Stop making images of Jesus. He isn’t a white guy. He isn’t a Jedi. And really, you shouldn’t be crafting images of Him at all

Eviana:
Never even seen a copy of the "Book of Enoch" before, but I've heard the endless debate about it.
I have always been fascinated with how Godly this man must have been to be "taken up" with God...and not see death.
I read some additional info on him though.
I'm a "sister"..

jesusjnr:
This man is a real crook, and much worse than his mentor, Oyedepo.

This view is informed from inside knowledge, except he has repented of recent, but if not he's nothing but an annointed worker of iniquity.

Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV)

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Image123:
Lol, you got me laughing there.

kkins25:
Its because of thoughts like this I realized mainstream Christianity is a scam. Dumping that shit was the best thing that happened to me

jesusjnr:
Hmmm.

Not surprised that the best thing that's happened to you is dumping something you thought was a scam for the scam of all scams.

If you ever thought that you would be able to comprehend the things of the Spirit with your carnal mind, then you have fallen for the lies of greatest scammer of all time.

You think you're doing someone else, but you don't know are only doing yourself, because if you die, you die for yourself, if you get saved, you get saved for yourself.

So last last, na only you lose if you choose to continue with the scam of all scams till death do y'all part.

Image123:
Wouldn't it be a waste of space to reply to this other fellow that almost went berserk so sure of herself or himself?Let me use my time more profitably.

MuttleyLaff:
Let me correct you. I dont do arguments sir. I only discuss what I know to be facts, if I am discussing opinions, I beforehand do announce I am or have advanced one

Now that I have corrected your wrong perspective of me and have put the record straight, it is safe to say to you that the sons of God that came down to sleep with the earthly women then, were human beings, just as same as you and I

Oh, c'mon now, stop being all of a sudden, you developed a funny bone and gone comical on me. Are you the 21st century Enoch? Maybe you're getting ready in authoring a 21st Book of Enoch version, hmm?

Why is this misunderstanding always happening? nijabazaar, please can you provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and supporting with chapters and verses proving where or when the Bible showed that the sons of God are angels

Yes, I can clarify, but I wouldnt be doing the heavy liftings without you too, yourself raising not so much of a little finger, meaning you have to be prepared and ready to get your hands dirty, be ready and quick to give answers to questions asked you etcetera

nijabazaar, I am now used to guys, like you've just done with this comment, who always use and play the "there is no concrete proof, at least you did not present one" card.

I usually do not oblige, because they're trying to force a disclosure, without having proved themselves and seen to be worthy enough to have that information exchange, but I am making an exception with you nijabazaar

nijabazaar, now in order that you dont charge me of not responding to your "... but there is no concrete proof, at least you did not present one" accusation, let me show you a few proofs that the book of Enoch, is a first century bestseller fantansy/fiction pack book.

1/ "... as it is written in the book of the law of Moses," - Joshua 8:31
2/ "... behold, it is written in the book of Jasher," - 2 Samuel 1:18
3/ "... as it is written in the law of Moses" - 2 Chronicles 23:18
4/ "... as it is written in the law of the LORD." - 2 Chronicles 31:3
5/ "... as it is written in the book of Moses" - 2 Chronicles 35:12
6/ "... as it is written in the book of this covenant," - 2 Kings 23:21
7/ "... as it is written in the law of Moses the man of God..." - Ezra 3:2
8/ "... as it is written in the law" - Nehemiah 10:36

1/ ".. But He answered and said, It is written," - Matthew 4:4
2/ "... Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." - Matthew 4:7
3/ "... Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad." - Matthew 26:31
4/ ""For," said Peter, "it is written in the Book of Psalms: "'May his place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in it,' and, "'May another take his place of leadership." - Acts 1:20
5/ " Paul replied, “Brothers, I did not realize that he was the high priest; for it is written: ‘Do not speak evil about the ruler of your people" - Acts 23:5
6/ "Rather, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”" - 1 Corinthians 2:9
7/ "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" - John 10:34
8/ "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." - Romans 9:13
9/ "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God." - Hebrews 10:7
10/ "Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy." - 1 Peter 1:16

The first, one to eight above, is part of the remarkable proof, that whenever you're reading about texts or books of undisputed origin and not something like the nature of the Book of Enoch, you'll find the Bible or the prophets in the Old Testament making the connection with saying like "as it is written". Fraudulent books like the book of Enoch is deprived of this.

Equally in New Testament (i.e. the other one to ten listing) with the Johannine, Pauline or Petrine letters and even Jesus Christ too, you'll find in their letters and/or when discussing texts or books of undisputed origin and not something like the nature of the Book of Enoch, again use the familiar phrase or similar "as it is written".

nijabazaar, Jude nor Peter NEVER used "as it is written" when paraphrasing the Book of Enoch because it is a popular well known best selling fantansy/fiction book that was well circulated up to and around the first century. The Bible doesn't generally quote books of questionable and/or profane sources, like the Book of Enoch is, this is why the Bible too, never has "as it is written" or "... it is written" as a form of certification and accreditation of the book anywhere in the Bible. The book was never treated as being inspired by God and why so it wasnt ever authoritatively used or referenced.

The Enoch featured in the Book of Enoch, is not the same Enoch mentioned in Genesis, Luke and Hebrews. (gobuchinny, Eviana, missjo, LoJ etcetera, please take note of that just forgone very important comment, lol.) How can we know this I hear you, ask under your breath, it is because no mention of Enoch in the entirety of the "The Book of Enoch" was made about him, in reference to being a man of faith (i.e. like as done with Hebrews 11:5) nor is there any reference to his genealogy (i.e. like as done in Luke 3:37), instead the book, obviously a work of fiction, made a complete glaring birth position order mistake when compared and contrasted with the two real Enoch of the Bible birth order position in their genealogies.

nijabazaar smh, may I have your attention, please? May I have your attention, please? Will the real Slim Shady Enoch please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Slim Shady Enoch please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here. Y'all act like you never know ... Lol, smh.

I know you arent playing difficult and this is why I felt inclined to intimate you with the "as it is written" above persuasion and to explain that Peter and Jude, only used the book of Enoch as source material and not in any shape or form endorsed it as scripture that is God-breathed.

I love healthy, matured, meaningful, informative, educative and edifying discussions too.

gobuchinny:
2 Peter 2 vs 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgement.

These verse came as Peter had previously explained in Chapter 1 vs 19 -21 about the sure word of prophecy and how God spoke to them on the mountain with Yeshua. He also said how God has been speaking through Holy men to birth scripture. Bear in mind that the apostle knew that their letters were scripture becaus e they understood how God works. The only piece God wrote Himself were the 10 commandments everyother scripture were written by God through man.

He then explained that as they are true prophets and scribes of God, they were also false prophets that will bring in damanble heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them

2 Peter 2:1-3 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not"

And that many shall follow their ways.....he then likened the false prophets to the fallen angels . @okcornel are you seeing these. Now what did the fallen Angel's do? They brought damnable heresies, and denied the lord that bought them by copulating with fleshy and earthy man and producing offsprings, evil giant offsprings and brought upon themselves swift destruction because right now those Angel's are locked up in their hell and chained unto the end of days. @okcornel you dey see these rev .

And many humans follow their perilous ways . Did you see how everything fitted with the verses above? How and why Peter used the fallen Angel's and false prophets as mirror image for both destruction and apostacy?.

My friend if you are not seeing these things then you are stiff necked and i cannot help you. Because you have chosen to beleive lies infact the damanble heresies here is you saying that there were no fallen Angel's. I can imagine apostle Peter will slap your face if you were alive in His days. .

You have alot to learn bro. Be humble. You are not bigger than God. Everybody dey learn. I love to learn and would learn from you if I feel what you r saying is right. But clearly you are perverting scripture and I worry for you. Be careful the devil is real and is looking for who to devour. Sin is lurking at the door bro. Lets all be humble.

I would have done the jude analysis but no need.

MuttleyLaff:
The book of Enoch and other variants of it, are best flushed down the toilet, where they belong. If you start, you won't last five minutes into reading the book, before you'll shove it away, from finding the content, being ludicrous and a waste of even idle time.

The book of Enoch was written by the person self styling himself as Enoch. It is not different to the Otum series, done by our own resident "Enoch" version guy here, on Nairaland

Except from the Book of Enoch, where in the Bible, where else, have you read that God revealed stuff to Enoch nijabazaar?

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/EnochMuttleyLaff.jpg[/img]

budäatum, a mere read of the above and especially taking notice of the red underlines should enlighten you, perhaps

budäatum, please when discussing the genuineness of the Book of Enoch, please learn to quote from the Bible and reference the scripture directly, as opposed to quickly finding and taking solace in this accursed Book of Enoch

Also please stop this prooftexting bad habit you've taken a shine to and employed to use on this thread

MuttleyLaff:
nijabazaar, you'll be absolutely spot on and right to acknowledge that Jude, in his letter, (i.e. Jude 1:3-4) was warning about individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago that have secretly slipped in among the believers, and that these are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord, but most importantly, the missing part of the whole Book of Enoch jigsaw puzzle nijabazaar and that great missing jigsaw puzzle piece most people usually ignore and/or leave out, is about the issue of circulating myths, which are combinations of old wives' tales, fables, made-up stories, fiction from creative and imaginative writing, fake news, alternative fact, fairy tale, exagerrated made-up stories, like that of the fictional prose first century bestseller literature, that the Book of Enoch is.

Continuing from Jude 1:4, nijabazaar are you aware or better still, did you notice that Jude in Jude 1:4 (i.e. with saying, For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed—ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ) was actually quoting Apostle Peter, hmm? By this, I mean, Jude was with Jude 1:4, quoting Apostle Peter's 2 Peter 2:1-2, yeah?

nijabazaar, do you see the slight variation and/or edit to 2 Peter 2:1-2, that Jude made when he referenced 2 Peter 2:1-2, with his Jude 1:4 version of event, hmm?

"¹Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies that even deny the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves.
²Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of truth will be defamed."
- 2 Peter 2:1-2

"³Beloved, although I made every effort to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt it necessary to write and urge you to contend earnestly for the faith entrusted once for all to the saints.
⁴For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed—ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ."
- Jude 1:3-4

nijabazaar, did you notice how Jude, in Jude 1:4 switched from Peter's 2 Peter 2:1 writing, that the false teachers were coming, to him Jude now writing that the false teachers etcetera had arrived.

nijabazaar, also did you importantly notice in Jude 1:8, how Jude mentioned how these false teachers with their fabled stories were slandering angels and/or heaping abuse on celestial beings, hmm? Compare with 2 Peter 2:10 too.

2 Peter 2:11, was saying, angels, although much greater (i.e. than these false teachers), do not dare bring an accusation against each other celestial beings, and Jude 1:9 corroborates this even with saying, Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, only saying to the devil, “The Lord punish you!,” meanwhile, these false teachers have the gall to falsely accuse angels of sexually sleeping with female human beings.

Peter and Jude said, these charges made, are human slander against heavenly beings, and that real angels would never make any such accusations to each other or otherwise. In short, angels themselves do not get involved in making false spoken statement(s) damaging to each other's reputation. This is aside from the fact that angels dont do sex and Jesus emphatically saying that angels dont get married.

¹And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth.
². And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying up to the gates of heaven.
³ And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.
⁴. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings,〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages!
⁵. Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee.
⁶. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn:
⁷. And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates.
⁸. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins.
⁹. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness.
¹⁰. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth.
¹¹. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these
- Book of Enoch 9:1-11

². And behold, the names of those Angels: – The first of them is Semjaza, and the second Artaqifa, and the third Armen, and the fourth Kokabiel, and the fifth Turiel, and the sixth Ramiel, and the seventh Daniel, and the eighth Nuqael, and the ninth Baraqiel, and the tenth Azazel, and the eleventh Armaros, the twelfth Batriel, the thirteenth Basasael, the fourteenth Ananel, the fifteenth Turiel, the sixteenth Samsiel, the seventeenth Yetarel, the eighteenth Tumiel, the nineteenth Turiel, the twentieth Rumiel, the twenty-first Azazel.
³. And these are the chiefs of their Angels, and the names of the leaders of hundreds, and their leaders of fifties, and their leaders of tens.
⁴. The name of the first is Yequn; this is the one who led astray all the children of the Holy Angels, and he brought them down onto the dry ground, and led them astray through the daughters of men.
⁵. And the name of the second is Asbeel; this one suggested an evil plan to the children of the Holy Angels, and led them astray, so that they corrupted their bodies with the daughters of men.
⁶. And the name of the third is Gadreel; this is the one that showed all the deadly blows to the sons of men. And he led astray Eve. And he showed the weapons of death to the children of men, the shield and the breastplate, and the sword for slaughter, and all the weapons of death to the sons of men.
⁷. And from his hand they have gone out against those who dwell the dry ground from that time and forever and ever.
⁸. And the name of the fourth is Penemue; this one showed the sons of men the bitter and the sweet and showed them all the secrets of their wisdom.
⁹. He taught men the art of writing with ink and paper, and through this many have gone astray, from eternity to eternity, and to this day.
¹⁰. For men were not created for this, that they should confirm their faith like this, with pen and ink.
- Book of Enoch 69:2-10

From the above, at least Book of Enoch 9:1-11 quote for starters, and according to Enoch, the star fictitious character from this "the Book of Enoch", apparently Michael and three other archangels, accused Semjaza and Azazel of going into the daughters of men upon the earth, and sleeping with the women, but on the flip side and according to Peter's testimony, angels (i.e. Michael, Uriel, Raphael and Gabriel etcetera) do not dare bring accusations as ludicrous as this against each other celestial beings, and even Jude added that, Michael would not dare accuse the devil himself. So, in short, and on the strength of the assertions of Peter and Jude, the story, in the Book of Enoch 9:1-11, of Michael, making an accusation against those two angels is false. Now, if the story of the accusation is false then equally false so, is the story of the angels' sexual sin. The evidence is piling up against the Book of Enoch to be a best-selling work of fiction of a first century "Dan Brown" The Book of Enoch is littered with so many Book of Enoch 69:2-10 mumbo-jumbo that are readily and easily observed, noticed and/or seen. Too many to much mention nijabazaar.

nijabazaar, did you further notice, what Jude said about these men, in Jude 1:10 that, "Whatever these people do not understand, they slander. " and that "Like animals, which are creatures of instinct, they use whatever they know to destroy themselves, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction." Fyi, they circulate stories that nephilims being angels, celestial beings, had sexual intercourse with female human beings and ended up married to them? Compare with 2 Peter 2:12

nijabazaar, did you notice how Jude or Peter, never quoted anywhere in the Bible, like Genesis, for instance, of any example of any angel(s) sleeping with women?

Listen nijabazaar, let me put my cards on the table, straight faced up open for you with these comments to see:
1/ Angels are not what are called the sons of God.
2/ Angels did not have sexual intercourse with female human beings.
3/ Angels did not marry the daughters of men.
4/ The Enoch featured in the Book of Enoch, is not either of the Enochs nor is he the same Enoch, the patriarch mentioned in Genesis, Exodus, 1 Chronicles, Luke or Hebrews (gobuchinny, Eviana, missjo, LoJ etcetera, please take note of this very important comment about the Enoch in the BoE, lol.)

rickyponting504:
hi y'all nairalanders, something very shocking happened to me of recent which I still find very hard to believe.

y'all shouldn't mind my use of tenses, I'm not a writer just decided to share this.

Here is my Story.

about few days ago a friend of mine called me at about 1am mid night to send me some money which I've been requesting from him for a while now. after when he was done with the transaction he sent a screenshot to confirm the transfer was successfully done. then later I fell asleep and had a dream where a woman gave me 20k through POS withdrawal.

when it was morning I went straight to the ATM to withdraw the cash and the cash wasn't available. I called my friend to meet me up at the bank, then we went into the bank together to make inquiries if the transfer was successful and the cashier told us the transfer was successful. so I thought it was network problem, could y'all believe till today my 20k isn't yet available..

rickyponting504:
My question is. I want to know if something like this or relating to this has happened to someone here or is it starting with me...

thanks y'all.

kkins25:
Its because of thoughts like this I realized mainstream Christianity is a scam.. dumping that shit was the best thing that happened to me

jesusjnr:
Bro Ọkcornel, please come and see what someone who claims not to be a homosexualist could possibly make of "Get there behind me Satan!"

jesusjnr:
While you are carrying your Antichrist obsession on your fart atheist head, look below to see who I'm carrying on my head!

I wouldn't blame you if you can't comprehend it because you are blinded by the Antichrist and AntiGod obsession you're carrying on your fart atheist head, for these two have never been atheists but have always believed in the existence of God just as Adam and Eve did.

So wetin concern a so-called atheist for this matter?

Get thee behind me Satan!

solite3:
thank you very much for your wonderful thought and advise.
I know not to overstep scripture limits when conversing with people concerning the truth. I wasnt inferring that the parables where false

solite3:
because whatever parables the Lord made where things that really happened and the people could relate with, for example, the parable of the sower however in the case of Lazarus and the rich man

solite3:
although Jesus might have used it for teaching, it something that really happened

gobuchinny:
Please dear muttey show me where Peter and Jude discussed or exchanged letters to themselves to discuss this false teachers and denouncing the BOE

gobuchinny:
But what was the context of discuss my very wise friend muttey . Are you dull of understanding? Ok. To help your comprehension . What was the discuss before either Peter or Jude quoted the glorious book? Oya tell me Oh wise King Muttey.

Your foolishness will be revealed for all today. Please answer me

gobuchinny:
But what foolishness is this muttey. How can Peter and Jude be quoting from a book to denounce the book? Does that sound right to even you?

So you author a book and have someone write the forward or abstract and then you now say you dont beleive in the persons opinion? Or you write your thesis and reference another author who has done same work on what you writing and say you dont beleive in the work you referenced?

My man, are you serious?

gobuchinny:
You have tried severally to shoot down this books and each time you r also shooting down the conventional bible because it's the same Spirit. Acts 22 vs 9 Paul's account of His conversion and Acts 9 vs 7, the regular account contradicts themselves. The first says that the people with Paul did not hear any voice that spoke to Paul but the other states that the People heard but saw none. My friend you must understand that these scripture were written by Holy men and sometimes when handed down from generations, there r rewritten or translated, there r bound to be mix ups. These are after all historical events that are reported by men. Even the voice of God speaking to Israel is an historical event . Any baby christain reading acts will say the bible is fake as y the contradiction but mature beleivers understand via the Holy Spirit that man has flaws but God does not . You dont read the letter nwanne but the Spirit. The letter killeth as its killing you now but the Spirit giveth life

Furthermore one of the accounts in either Matthew or mark I cant recall states the account of the prophet that was killed of old but falsely states him as the son of another Zechariah which bible scholars acknowledged was a mix up because that account of the scripture if taken was impossible as that zechariah the bible says was not killed with a saw. It clearly connotes the human error but are we to throw away my the baby with.......

Yes there r different versions of the BOE but only one authentic which is the one myself and @okcornel have been quoting. It wont take much for a Spirit filled beleiver to read all and decipher which one is dung. It further proves that the devil is working hard to deceive people into not reading the book . Because were there r fakes, there must of certainty be an original. These is also applicable to the book of Jasher but any spirit filled beleiver quickly knows the real book of Jasher and mocks the others cause it's like a joke. That y you have the Holy Spirit my friend, or dont you have him?

my friend there is nothing you wanna say to accuse that book that wont fall also on the conventional word as it's written with the same Spirit of prophecy.
Still waiting for fact sir [s]as all you have said have been thrashed out here with further biblical proofs.[/s]

gobuchinny:
@okcornel if Peter was lying about the Angel's that sinned then he was also lieing about everyother thing he listed along with the chronology.
It then means, there was no flood and that Sodom and Gomorrah is probably now America and Great Britian as there were never destroyed.

The word of God is Final. We cannot add to it nor is it of any private interpretation. It was breathed by God and is an authority. We r not to privately interpret the word of God but to take it as Thus saith the Lord. If we ever find ourselves trying to explain away fooliness when the word CLEARLY states something, it means we are proud and are taking the place of God.

If I recall, the person that did that initially was Lucifer . Were he magnified himself against God and says his better than God . I will forever follow the bible and not men. If the bible says that some Angels sinned then angels sinned. No questions and no interpretations . We r soldiers of the cross and the word is the constitution. It cannot be altered or privately explained as the explanations are plain for all to see.

Its these private explanations of the word that has led us in this mess we have now in Nigeria. Where all manner of men rise up on the name of God to interpret scriptures as they feel forgetting that there had been a doctrine before them. The same doctrine all Christians must follow. Paul said he had preached ALL the gospel. So you and I can never have any new revelation . What ever the Spirit tells us must be in conformity with the word of God. If you see Yeshua, whatever He tells you just be in alignment with the word.

But here we have authorities, and gods unto themselves who can sit in the comfort of their rooms and stand on their altars and declare bold things against God. And shake their fists at the Almighty. . Like God is not wise whereas the foolishness of God is wiser than men . Like God cannot think for Himself. Like God is subject to me and is at the mercy of men . God has been in charge and is still in charge of earth and sees all the pride and folly of men that claim to be God.

The foundations of the Lord stand the sure..........

gobuchinny:
The guy is not a christain . Someone that thinks his better than Peter . A gentile like you and me that were lost and going astray that were drafted in suddenly wants to become an authority in christianity. Salavtion that you had to learn about. That was not local to us na em baba want turn authority even to the point to rewriting the bible

I laugh at these guys who beleive they know better than the apostles that laid the foundations. Alot of these beleifs emanates from carnal mindedness. Because they beleive the lies and books of their pastors which breeds carnality. They believe the books their pastors in gold write and are happy reading it but the BOe that is filled with spiritually food they cant discern . Dame book that points you to God and His son and tells you to remove yourself from carnality and vanity. Same thing God has been saying through out all generations.

Baby christain everywhere whose mind cant eat the meat of the gospel but are hooked on milk and crumbs. Same folk that beleive sons of God are children of Oduduwa and beleive fornication is not sin.

Instead of being humble and learn, the truth is strange to them. They r reprobate that think they can change the laws of God. Just imagine where someone is saying Peter and Jude dont know what they were saying quoting the beliefs of a book he claims to have read but cant comprehend .

How else do I show I beleive in a matter than to quote either beliefs from that book or verbatim like Jude.

His talking about Paul quoting greek writers. Not knowing that any fool can quote moral laws. You dont have to be a christain to agree with an atheist that says racism is bad . If I agree with the atheist does it mean I'm an atheist? But if I quote the traditional beliefs not moral beleifs then it proves I agree with the atheist that there is no God. America is not Gods own country, let's not deceive ourselves yet they have laws that acknowledge the human being and makes live easy for their citizens. Does it now mean they r governed by God. Morals laws have been in existence since creation even Hammurabi had laws before Israel, does it mean God copied them? Hammurabi that was a pagan wicked King from babylon

Peter didnt quote moral beleifs of the BOE but quoted traditional beliefs about Angel's sinning and being held in a hell till judgement . How is it that people cannot see that? It baffles me how peoples minds have been blinded to apostasy and being reprobates and enemies of God. For they claim to be smart but are really dull of understanding.
@okcornel my brother. I no get strength for this discuss oo. Me I want someone that is not blind to facts and can discuss intelligently. Besides I have always stated my stand. If you no like the BOE, abeg leave am for us. I'm not advocating for anyone to read the book as it's not scripture as we have it. The 66 books are enough and will lead anyone who truly reads it to eternal life which is the aim of all these books

FrLukas:
Wow. Thanks for the info. God bless you too.

FrLukas:
Ponder upon this.

GodHead85:
The circumcision of males is a practice that is recurring among the three Abrahamic religions (with Christianity it was part of the Old Testament).

GodHead85:
The procedure can be painful, prone to infection and possibly lead to reduced sensation during intercourse. Even if these risks were not apparent, you are still permanently mutilating your child against their will.

If religious folk are against female circumcision (albeit some Muslims are fine with it), why do they condone male circumcision? Sure the effects on a female are more drastic but the same concept of mutilation against the child's will is still there.