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aishauju:
But that sitting position is not good when you meet superiors like these men.

Eviana:
Sir/madam,
You are correct.
I was wanting someone to bring this up.

Judges 14: 3,4 (KJV)
³ Then his father and his mother said unto him, Is there never a woman among the daughters of thy brethren, or among all my people, that thou goest to take a wife of the uncircumcised Philistines? And Samson said unto his father, Get her for me; for she pleaseth me well.
⁴ But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the Lord, that he sought an occasion against the Philistines: for at that time the Philistines had dominion over Israel.

It's clear that Samson had a purpose/ calling from God...and was aware of it.
But it may have been possible, that, in his desire to accomplish that purpose, he "veered off of the narrow pathway" at times to fulfilling the purpose by surrendering to temptation ...(the women).
That is my thought (and I could be wrong), but I do not see this as a "Hosea/Gomer" (where Hosea actually was commanded by God to marry Gomer--as an illustration between God and his wayward bride--the Church) type of situation.

MuttleyLaff:
God did not push him into the direction and/or warm embrace of Delilah

Grupo:
It was heavenly!

Grupo:
What are you typing?

Grupo:
Well, I don't know about your God. He's useless to me. Unlike money that's very real to me

Grupo:
Just so you know, I used some money this evening to import some slay queen. And did she give good blow jọ́b? Yes!

So you see the difference now. Your God cannot give me a blow jọ́b because he doesn't exist. But money can!

kkins25:
Lemme scrape the lapalapa on your head for u.

MhizVee:
Are you also an atheist

Grupo:
Yes, are sharing money to atheists?

MhizVee:
Are you an atheist?

hopefulLandlord:
Yes!

MhizVee:
Why?

hopefulLandlord:
i asked myself why i believe and i came up with the answers

1. Indoctrination
2. Fear
3. Ignorance
4. wanting to fit in as everyone around me was a theist\

Make no mistake, i was the first atheist i knew and nobody thought me anything, i only later got to know there were others like me and many others before me

hopefulLandlord:
it depends on how you define atheism

... I've observed a very huge dishonesty used in defining atheist by Christians

one day its "Someone who lacks belief in any god"

on another its "Someone who believes no god exists"

on another day it would be "Someone who says no god exists"

On another day it becomes "Someone who rejects deification"

I've always observed they chose whatever definition they want based on the agenda they have so I don't even bother with such a discussion anymore as I've observed its usually 2 people talking past each other, one trying to force an agenda and the other not seeing through the other person

TBH I'm starting to care less and less about labels because they most likely don't describe us well, it puts us in a position where we have to defend ourselves in relation to the group they say/we say we belong to

Here's MY own position on this, I'm agnostic to a "Creator" I'm of the opinion that there's still a possibility that there's a creator, however I'm not saying there's one and neither saying there isn't BUT for the claims of religious gods I'm a 100% atheist especially the abrahamic god,

the problem now starts when I'm to label myself/ when people are to label me, I emphasise myself as an atheist because those I usually discuss with are people that subscribe to the god I'm atheistic to; I will only become agnostic when someone like Deepsight, Raphiemontella, NPComplete, Anonynymous brings up their own idea of god, since I haven't argued with them in my close to 2 years of being in the religion section, I see no reason to claim agnostic; what then do those I'm atheistic to their god do? they hide under the god idea of those I mentioned up there and then tell me to defend my "Atheistic" stand; this becomes problematic and when I tell them I'm agnostic to that idea of a god they'll accuse me of being dishonest

I've observed most Nairaland atheists actually hold my stand too

let me stop this rant here and get back to your question, are agnostics also atheists? it depends on how you define the word "atheist"

or let me ask you, what label would you give me based on my stance?

bereanway:
It is well....

nlPoster:
Reported not because I have anything personally against your post but because I simply don't want to see it when I'm on the thread.
No hard feelings.

bereanway:
The way some people talk against trousers, it is so strong!!!..But we cannot use our belief system as a general belief system....

MhizVee:
Are you an atheist?

Janosky:
"Independent Thinking" crew claiming to have "freedom" are actually in bondage and slavishly paying membership fees to business centre operators otherwise known as 'Pastorpreneurs'.
Abraham Daniels wants to expose the ugly secrets of the lucrative fleecing business now that his cut has been stopped by the Chief Pastorpreneur.

JoanHicks:
He has regained his sanity

daddytime:
The face alone says a lot.

daddytime:
There are still a bunch of gullible for you to take on your new folly ride.

bereanway:
Why are you attacking Dunamis? Dunamis is a great church with a God-fearing and humble Senior Pastor that preaches the word with insight. He is a Pastor with open testimony, character and integrity.

Mr Daniel, look for something good to do.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

oaroloye:
Neither Satan nor Humans are intrinsically Immortal.
Immortality must be earned.

oaroloye:
Satan has not earned Immortality, but has been able to prolong his life by stealing and scavenging Life Energy from Humans.
If he were Immortal, he would of need to do that.

oaroloye:
[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

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nlPoster:
Most Nigerians' problem is they have no problem.

bereanway:
you sure?

nlPoster:
If you had any problem to talk about you wouldnt have opened this thread.
So, you have no problems worth mentioning if trousers are the only thing that come to your mind.

hopefulLandlord:
seems legit

hopefulLandlord:
which "God"? the Jewish one?

sunkoye:
....... in the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, the Word was God...........in the Beginning God Created Heaven and Earth

This question has been a top priority in my head. Who did morning star killed?Although it sounded literal but the two bible verse am going to explore does not sound proverbial when the slain issue was pointed out. i initially thought it was Adam he killed spiritually. but after few findings, i dropped that idea.

Lets do some poke-nosing into the profiling and activities of the Cherubim dude with event that happened before the beginning of the creation.

we all know who Lucifer is and his position before the fall. His powers ,authorities and enormous resources cannot be over emphasized. Ezekiel was very expressive with this powerful entity.- "You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared. "You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire. "You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you.

But in Ezekiel 28:16 - "By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned;- this act of violence from our super dude must have led to- destruction, fight, injury or something fatal and this was obviously meted against something/ or formidable entity, -either an enemy of his or an important obstruction etc

The human soldiers in the house should be able to give a comprehensive review of how rogues soldiers carry out coup. Especially the very day it was being carried out. coup are always associated with violence when the fight is against a strong government. if the head coup plotter is a member of the supreme council or close to the Supreme leader...the probability of getting a good hit is very high! . for a coup to be almost successful, i learnt their are specific instruction to some coup members to eliminate the most important power bloc individuals that can Arrow or derail their objective and goals. As soon as the coup plotters were "able to" or "not able" to hit the important members of the government, the next is to worry about the loyal soldiers to the regime they were about to overthrow.

let put the verse in mind- Let your will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.

Lucy definitely attempted a coup in heaven as written by Prophet Isaiah. The very time he threw caution out of the window.

"You said in your heart: “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

Now things got very messy!!!

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels. - before this fight or struggles between the angels, i believe their must have been a personal confrontation that may have crystallized to "able to" or "not able" situation in the Throne Room, court or Assembly in heaven. (lets remember Uncle Lucy is always on the Mountain of God)- the anointed cherub that Covers the Throne. Element of surprise in the throne room would have been his best and first entrance to hit the God that He believed He perfectly understand or knows! so how did baba delivered his first fatal blow? Am sure it cannot be verbal confrontation. Even in his perfected plans, i dont expect Lucy's first 10 option to be- " Jehovah....Stand up from your throne. Baba want to sit down.!!....lolzzz. The very first beginning of the insurrection must have been rash and solid somehow.

Popped up questions of what actually transpired in the throne during the attempt coup led me to the question i asked earlier. who did son of the morning killed during the overthrow milieu ?

i have two bible verse that shows someone murdered and someone was killed .......both from the beginning

in John 8:44 Jesus was giving the crowd a glimpse of what Lucifer looks like in a personal expository message and tone. A feel that portrays a close connection and truth of an even in distant past. - "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Jesus would later solidify His assertions when he proceeded that "before Abraham I AM"- still pointing to the beginning in that passage. So who or what got murdered by the cherub guy? He definitely killed someone or something.

the second verse is the book of revelation 13: 8 -All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. That means Jesus was slain or murdered spiritually. how was the Word, that is also God slain in the beginning? Apostle Peter was even more expressive about this issue in 1 Peter 1. 20 - He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you. hummm...... Let your will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.. He definitely shed his blood before creation. He definitely gave himself up for sacrifice in the beginning.

Right now am scared and very careful of drawing inference. please avail me the plot twist that you know that can stop what am about to conclude....lol

Daniel came to mind.....- “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” we are in the end of days, so lets Run to and Fro and acquire knowledge on this. God bless you.

bereanway:
Some doctrines are church-based than Holy Spirit-inspired

bereanway:
Holy Spirit is highly needed!!

bereanway:
One needs the Holy Spirit to clear some controversies.

MhizVee:
Its not even long enough, this post alone is not even enough to explain God's beauty.

chukwuibuipob:
well, dos Philosophers ask such question. Is God Evil/good?

bereanway:
Whatever you wear, whether trousers or skirt; if it brings glory to God, it is okay.

bereanway:
Muttleylaf read the updated version.

bereanway:
Christians from all churches who support or don't support trousers should read this.

blueAgent:
Am already blessed.

blueAgent:
And what will happen?

Editorialtimes:
Editorial Times | Lagos

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donbachi:
If him like make him meditate with amadioha,sango and olumba.

Fizzymike1:
I naturally like this guy

Cuccitini:
He don turn burddist

nlPoster:
"So finally, whatever you wear that will make people doubt your Christian profession"
I just put that there because I don't know what to type.

bereanway:
That point is a solid.

MuttleyLaff:
... the idolatory pagan ritual custom that cross dressing is associated with. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing. It is the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex that is detesting to God. This is what God dislikes and says its an abomination, period. Any other twisting and turning naa wash ojaare.

The truth for some others is too difficult to believe

RandomGuy48:
I'm not sure of that argument. One cannot say that the Deuteronomy laws are entirely done away with, as by that logic things like incest are suddenly okay. While some of the rules in Deuteronomy/Leviticus are of the ceremonial variety, meaning they are considered by most Christians to be no longer applicable (there are a few that argue Christians are supposed to follow all of those rules, but we're not talking about that viewpoint), but there are also moral laws. There are also civil laws of Israel, which obviously are no longer applicable either. Anyway, the fact that Deuteronomy 22:5 has something that 22:9/22:11 do not, the statement that it is an abomination, indicates that it is a moral law rather than a ceremonial one.

That said, there is a different problem I've long had. Now, there are two possible interpretations of Deuteronomy 22:5. The first is that it means there are some articles are clothing that are exclusively for men, and some that are exclusively for women. What qualified as such do not change. The second is that it's meant more culturally, that what qualify as men or women's clothing depends on the culture, and what counts as women's or men's clothes can vary depending on time and location.

Clearly, those who favor the idea that women cannot wear trousers must accept the first interpretation. The question then becomes, do trousers count under this rule? There are two problems I see with this idea. First, at the time these rules were given, trousers would have been an unknown concept to the Israelites--they simply hadn't been introduced yet. Which would mean that upon the later introduction of trousers, they were instantly and irrevocably considered a man's garment somehow.

If this was the case, however, we come to an issue: If, for the last 2500 or so years (the amount of time trousers were known), trousers were considered a man's garment in Christianity/Judaism, why is it I've seen no one advance this view ever point to anything prior to the last century or two? Surely, there would have been various "what people should wear" writings throughout history that would specify men's clothing is to be trousers and to cite Deuteronomy 22:5 in favor if this were the case. Maybe such things do exist, but I've yet to see anyone point to them. Their absence is very conspicuous and a major hole in the claim that trousers were and are only to be worn by men.

MuttleyLaff:
Please be balanced and non-discriminatory. Also, please find it in you, to be truthful to the fact and be honest enough, to admit that, it is specifically the idolatory pagan ritual custom of cross dressing, that's the underlying reason of concern to God

MuttleyLaff:
"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."
- Deuteronomy 22:5

Michellekabod2, I am quite sure you do know that the Old Testament Deuteronomy 22:5 verse that is banded about and waved in people's face specifically is about the idolatory pagan ritual custom of cross dressing. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing, it's the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex.

bereanway:
Hello everyone,

There is usually debates about trousers: if it is a sin or not, etc. And people have been selfish or self-centered in speaking against trousers or supporting trousers. But I am here to give you biblical proofs on what you should do on trousers, and this proofs will give you the right direction about trousers.

Let's start with these three Bible passages. Deuteronomy 22:5, Deuteronomy 22:9, Deuteronomy 22:11. In Deuteronomy 22:5, i It says "A woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man wear that which pertains to a woman". In Deuteronomy 22:9 "Thou shall not sow thy vineyard with diverse seeds, lest the fruit of the seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of the vineyard be defiled". in Deuteronomy 22:11, it says "Thou shall not wear a garment of diverse sorts, as of woolen and linen together".

Now, Deuteronomy 22:5 is against a woman putting on a man's wear, vice versa. But if you look at Deuteronomy 22:9 and Deuteronomy 22:11, you discover that those who are bragging about Deuteronomy 22:5 may not be keeping the law of Deuteronomy 22:9 and 11. This makes them hypocrites. Will you tell me that a born again Christian that is a farmer does not plant or has never planted diverse seeds in his farm, garden or vineyard? or will you tell me that no born again Christian has never won woolen and linen together? it may have happened. So using this chapter to argue about trousers, makes Christians hypocrites, because they may not keep other laws in the chapter.

Now, should we wear trousers or not? Since we have male and female trousers, their is a distinction; but I tell you, "If people staying where you are do not glorify God through you whenever you put trousers, then do not put trousers". Glorifying God through you could mean preaching the gospel. "Can you use trousers to preach and people get convinced about the God in you?". If in your location, people glorify God through you even when you preach with trousers, then you may be justified.

So finally, whatever you wear that will make people doubt your Christian profession, it does not glorify God, because "you are the light of the world"

MuttleyLaff:
Why were the scribes fond of wearing long robes then, hmm?

Jesus included their dress code to address the motive for and behind why they dress in flowing "babaringa" like robes

OK, Mr Smartypants, even if the Bible never mentioned Jesus putting on robe by himself, the Bible at least mentions that without shrugging it off, Jesus obediently let them put on Him a robe naah. No be so, hmm?

Jesus on different occasions, is recorded in the Bible to have worn either garment or robe.

Jesus wore both. Let me give you a chance to shine like a star and be a hero. Whats the difference between a garment and robe? Of course if you know, you'll easily and correctly know the difference, even pinpoint the different occasions, when and where Jesus wore garment and robe, lol.

"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment:
for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."
- Deuteronomy 22:5

"alBHAGDADI is my very good customer. We have regular transactions together. The most recent one, I have asked alBHAGDADI many times over, to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, to soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to deliver and give answers to"
- Re: Daddy Freeze Hails Pastor Abel Damina For Saying Women Can Wear Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 3:41pm On Apr 09

Women, in Deuteronomy 22:5, were told to stay away from men's clothing and vice versa only because of the idolatrous practices associated with cross dressing, that is meaning, men wearing women’s clothing, and vice versa as part of carrying out an idolatrous rite.

Deuteronomy 22:5, is about the idolatory pagan ritual custom that cross dressing is associated with. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing. It is the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex that is detesting to God. alBHAGDADI you couldnt answer that question when I previously asked you, why God detests it, but now you know better and we thank God for that. So, alBHAGDADI, that is the reason, the why and what God dislikes and says its an abomination, period. OK? Any other twisting and turning by you naa wash ojaare.

alBHAGDADI you already know me that I dont venture into subjects I havent a watertight understanding of and this how I easily can show you verses in 2 Kings and Zephaniah that explains Deuteronomy 22:5 has to do with cross dressing associated idolatrous practices and/or rites, lol.

ThothHermes:
You want to start confusing me again abi??

ThothHermes:
Doubt is better than uncertain certainty.

ThothHermes:
Exactly my point.

ThothHermes:
He's uninterested. At least not currently.

ThothHermes:
So there's no point expecting anything from Him.

ThothHermes:
I understand your situation. Very much.
And I'll tell you now, I am starting to think that God is not interested in the affairs of men.

The wicked prosper as much as the godly.