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Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Two Sounds Like Good News To You? by MuttleyLaff: 10:54am On Nov 11, 2019
FrLukas:
I understand that English isn't our mother tongue. I'm sure if you endeavour to read a lil bit more slowly and go through the arguments from the beginning even more slowly, you'll get the gist of the conversation.

Try it.
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]

What dialect do you speak, so I can translate the comment you directly made about and in reply to malvisguy212, back to you in that vernacular.

Where is the correlation in what malvisguy212 typed that you directly replied with talking about raping the neighbour's daughter, erhn?

jesusjnr:
Lol!

What's there to understand in ignorance?

It's obvious that such message you preach about grace is responsible for men continuing in sin, as pastors are now justifying rape and adultery with the grace of God.

If you can't comprehend that Truth which that bro tried to teach you, I can!

For there nothing more to understand about such grace messages which sends many to hell.

So please do me a favor, and keep such grace to yourself, I don't want to such an idea of grace that encourages men to continue in sin that grace may abound. Thanks.
Name one pastor, who has publicly come out, to justify rape and adultery with the grace of God. angry angry angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Case Of Eve And The Serpent? Big Snake Found In Kim Kardashian's Backyar by MuttleyLaff: 10:42am On Nov 11, 2019
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 10:20am On Nov 11, 2019
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Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Two Sounds Like Good News To You? by MuttleyLaff: 9:49am On Nov 11, 2019
malvisguy212:
listen, James audience is the saved, the saved man does Good work not because he wanted to be saved, he does Good work because he is proving the EVIDENCE OF A SAVING FAITH. The emphasis in James is that faith is not living unless it is OUTWARDLY shown and DEMONSTRATED in James 2:18 it says :
“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith BY my works”

it did not say faith with work, no. it say faith BY my work. this is because there is no way another person can recognized your faith if you do not show it OUTWARDLY , faith takes place in the heart.so in this context work is the evidence of a saving faith .
FrLukas:
So if I have faith according to you, I could rape my neighbour's underaged daughter and I'll go to heaven all the same.
No wonder a lot of pastors have been raping the under aged these days.
They must feel real good about themselves.
jesusjnr:
Lol!
Tell them.
The grace message that makes men to continue in sin that grace may abound.
and you call yourself a father. Is that what they nowadays, teach in the RCC cementary dead place, sorry, its a Freudian slip, I meant to type seminary, hmm, that raping the neighbour's underaged daughter is good work, the work of God?. Is that kind of good work, the work of God you think malvisguy212 is talking about hmm? Abeggy, dont let that shameless self proclaimed prophet jesusjnr egg you on to continue saying something that is foolish
Celebrities › Re: Linda Ikeji And Her Father Meet Femi Otedola by MuttleyLaff:
johnkay1:
Otedola is looking like someone force to take the snap shot
kunleweb:
Exactly what I just said
Thats the Bill Gates "unassuming" look. Watch most Bill Gates photoshoot, thats just how he usually looks. Dangote too often adopts that look too
Do you know what humility or humble really means?

Now not trying stir up a hornet's nest here but when I hear people say so-and-so has humility or such-and-such is so humble. I am like, well, hmm but do you know that "humility isn't actually humility unless there's something you're good enough at, to be humble about."

That was a God quote from the "Joan of Arcadia" series, it used to be shown a few years back on the CBS Network. It was when I heard that line in the series, that the penny about Numbers 12:3 below dropped for me

"(Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.)"
- Numbers 12:3

Bill Gates, Otedola Dangote have billions, there's something financially good enough in their accounts, they can afford to be looking sheepish, disinterested or mumu like in photoshots, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff:
gobuchinny:
Your case is pathetic sir grin. See you quoting confusion upon urself. So a man quotes or references a book doesnt give you enuff sense that he believes in the book.

I choose the words of God over your words bro. No offence. Those scriptures of Jude and Peter clearly quotes from the what the BOE spoke about what else do you need?
[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
Smh.

MuttleyLaff:
Smh, gobuchinny, remember, I previously typed that, I quote from the Quran, but it doesnt mean I quote from the Quran because I believe or know it is a God breath book inspired work of God. I also added that, similar applies to Peter and Jude, they quoted from the accursed BoE, not to endorse it but making a point with the references to the text in it they used.

Now let me clear you more and properly. Apostle Paul wrote more than half of the 27 books, epistles and letters that make up the New Testament. Guess what gobuchinny. Apostle Paul quoted pagan unbelievers philosophers in those at least 13 books, epistles and letters written by him. Yes, he quoted Seneca, Epimenides, Menander, Plato, Socrates, Aristole and Aratus

Just as with Peter and Jude quoting the BoE, not for the purpose of endorsing it but used for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnes against the false teachers, so Apostle Paul too wasnt supporting any of the pagan unbelievers philosophers he quoted from, but instead was using their material he quoted from in his work of defending and spreading the gospel.

I can give you a long list, but because of time, will limit it to just two short examples. Apostle Paul, in Acts 17:28 and 1 Corinthians 15:33 quotes from two pagan unbeliever philosophers writers, Aratus and Menander. That Acts 17:28b, where Apostle Paul says, "As some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also his offspring'", actually had the line taken from the Phaenomena of Aratus and of course Aratus is the name of the pagan unbeliever poet he did not mention, lol.

The 1 Corinthians 15:33 "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" was lifted and copied by Apostle Paul from Thais, a work done by pagan unbeliever writer called Menander, who supposedly had earlier quoted from another person called Euripides, a pagan unbeliever scholar, lol.

gobuchinny, why dont you just show where in the 66 books of the bible, the book of Enoch is mentioned. It's either you put up or shut up. angry angry angry
gobuchinny:
Like I said if no be you I no go talk. If you like read BOE if you no like leave am. It's not the gospel as the bible is snuff. But for matured sons, it's a gold mine
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. When trash resides in the heart, it will be exposed in perverse speech and revealed in rubbish posts, like I've been reading on this thread

Matured sons/daughters know that the BoE is a dumpster ready made for the gullible, the waywards, those with itching ears and easily impressed. I have back to back read the BoE, and trust me there is one best place for it, and that is to be flushed down the toilet
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 8:52am On Nov 11, 2019
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Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 8:23am On Nov 11, 2019
Aaronsrod:
It is all true. Only a fool would not believe.

All who do not believe shall burn eternally!
It is only a dimwit who would believe Jesus had propulsion to ascend into heavens, like used in rockets to launch into space. Smh.

If Jesus could walk into a room through the wall and a closed door, then why couldnt He rise into heaven without any rocket propulsion, hmm?

Brock1:
Even Nostradamus predicted accurately..
You do know the frenchman Nostradamus was an apothecary, hmm? Anyway if he said the following that "pigs will become brothers to man" then though I think I guess I know what he means by that comment, but still hmmm., besides how many out of his about a thousand quatrains did Nostradamus predict accurately, erhn?.

Brock1:
Check
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/
Dont let americanhumanist.org be your influence. I checked the site and I immediately detected in less than 2 minutes, how americanhumanist.org is misleading with incorrect info and shallow understanding. To be honest with you Brock1, I wouldnt recommend you allow or give americanhumanist.org the capacity to have an effect on your character building, your general and overall development and behaviour, as in, meaning dont allow it shape the way in which you act or conduct yourself towards others and especially to God.

Brock1:
I believe in God as opposed by d humanist.
The believe in God is the beginning of wisdom. Congratulations in believing in God.

I repeat, with the greatest respect Brock1, and beg that, oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions in the bible, arent at all contradictions. They largely are phantom Bible contradictions

Brock1:
If truly Jesus was powerful, he told his disciples'greater is d work u will do if ye believe'
"“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also;
and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
"
- John 14:12

Brock1, can I ask you simple, easy and straightforward questions that require honest sincere and direct answers?

1/ Did Jesus separate siamese twins or conjoined babies?
2/ Are siamese twins or conjoined babies succesfully separated now, and at the present time?

If you request it, I can give you an exhaustible lists of greater works than Jesus done with medical internet website references

Brock1:
what do we have today in our churches, fake miracles everywhere, some don't perform miracle so dey won't be bursted. Why is Jesus power not replicated in dis current generation.
"The time has come for judgment to begin, and God's own people are the first to be judged.
If it starts with us, how will it end with those who do not believe the Good News from God?
"
- 1 Peter 4:17

Brock1, work out your own salvation. Whoever that does fake miracles will get his/her comeuppance for misleading people and taking advantage of their desperation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff:
gobuchinny:
You and I are in no position to debate NT scripture. we are not jews but stinking gentiles that were grafted into the olive tree Roman's 11. WE are all gentiles and the testament was not ordained by us but handed over to us by the apostles. People dont understand that as God used Moses to hand over the law He used the apostles to hand over the law grin. Could you have said the law was not of God if you were born in Israel during the old testament era? The apostles were jews and of the stock af Abraham who had the real religion. grin. If you and I were born during the Roman or grecian period or other empires we would be classified as gentiles. Not capable of being priests of God or even knowing God. Condemned to God's wrath grin. The NT teaching is a doctrine my friend. GOD is not asking your option about it.
Each one of the 66 books, making up the Bible, are given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnes, not and never the accursed BoE.

GOD is not asking yours or my opinion about His word, because God wants us to face are facts, deal with genuineness, goodness and truthfulness

gobuchinny:
Its already been handed down. In fact do you know we are to remind ourselves of the doctrine. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. There is nothing new under the sun so there is no new revelation or doctrine. ALL has been revealed and the book written, sealed and binded for these last days of wrath grin.
gobuchinny, we learn something new about God everyday

gobuchinny:
IThe apostles letters were scriptures grin. Reading your post I shake my head because your post reeks of rebellion grin. Were God has said something and you want to redefine it. You twist scriptures or claiming scripture is not scripture like as if you were there or consulted when it was written.
Dont just say that God has said something. Show it now, show where in the bible, God or any other person for that matter, mentioned that the BoE is scripture

gobuchinny:
These are men that Yeshua chose to champion the NT covenant, men that hazard their lives for the gospel.
That is their destiny gobuchinny.

gobuchinny:
I. These generation of indomie and banana island christians. grin.
I pity the generation of indomie and banana island christians too, so makes at least two of us that pity them

gobuchinny:
Bros me I no get strength but any discerning beleiver sees from your post your arrogance in belittling the order God has kept in place. If you cannot take ALL the NT letters as scripture then I dont think you are a Christian bro grin. ALL scripture is inspired by God. GOD speaks through men and im sure as these men wrote they knew it was scripture.
Smh, gobuchinny, remember, I previously typed that, I quote from the Quran, but it doesnt mean I quote from the Quran because I believe or know it is a God breath book inspired work of God. I also added that, similar applies to Peter and Jude, they quoted from the accursed BoE, not to endorse it but making a point with the references to the text in it they used.

Now let me clear you more and properly. Apostle Paul wrote more than half of the 27 books, epistles and letters that make up the New Testament. Guess what gobuchinny. Apostle Paul quoted pagan unbelievers philosophers in those at least 13 books, epistles and letters written by him. Yes, he quoted Seneca, Epimenides, Menander, Plato, Socrates, Aristole and Aratus

Just as with Peter and Jude quoting the BoE, not for the purpose of endorsing it but used for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnes against the false teachers, so Apostle Paul too wasnt supporting any of the pagan unbelievers philosophers he quoted from, but instead was using their material he quoted from in his work of defending and spreading the gospel.

I can give you a long list, but because of time, will limit it to just two short examples. Apostle Paul, in Acts 17:28 and 1 Corinthians 15:33 quotes from two pagan unbeliever philosophers writers, Aratus and Menander. That Acts 17:28b, where Apostle Paul says, "As some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also his offspring'", actually had the line taken from the Phaenomena of Aratus and of course Aratus is the name of the pagan unbeliever poet he did not mention, lol.

The 1 Corinthians 15:33 "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" was lifted and copied by Apostle Paul from Thais, a work done by pagan unbeliever writer called Menander, who supposedly had earlier quoted from another person called Euripides, a pagan unbeliever scholar, lol.

gobuchinny:
You must understand that the ancient jews believed in the Angel's as all their literacy and beliefs reeks of it. The ancient jews had the books of Enoch, books of Jashers and other books. If you read other Jewish sources you will see writings about the beleifs systems.
Why dont you just show where in the 66 books of the bible, he books of Enoch is mentioned. It's either you put up or shut up. angry angry angry

gobuchinny:
Sir dont you know that you shouldn't be asking what is believed now by the jews but what they beleive then because after all they r the custodians of the true religion which we all key into now. Even Yeshua said salvation is of the Jews.
"The wicked have told me fables: but not as thy law."
- Psalm 119:85

No sire, get away from me shaitan!. We are warned not to give heed to Jewish fables, to pay no attention to Jewish myths and have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales. Praise God. Alleluia.

gobuchinny:
Didnt the bible say in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall.......For scripture to be scripture y should it be written to us more than once grin. For me if 2 different NT scripture talks about something, that's enough proof abi how many times did they write that God created Lucifer or that Daniel dwelt in Babylon?
You're more confused than a fart let loose on the production line floor of fan making factory. Only God can help you

gobuchinny:
The problem we have in christianity now is men disrespecting the order and wanting to establish their own order. They leave and abandon the foundation laid by the apostles and want to build another. Christians are not humble to carry on the doctrine whereas Paul told Timothy to pass on what he has learnt to the elders grin. It's not your own christianity, its God and He has communicated the doctrine to the apostles whose names are found as the foundations of heaven in Revelations abi is it me and your name or pastors names that are the foundations of heaven?
You're making whistling noises and to make it worse, doing it in the wind.

gobuchinny:
Bro be careful as I preserve you are in the valley of total rebellion and blasphemy with God grin.
Do you know what a boomerang is, huh?. If you do, then watch yourself, and choose your words, choose them carefully whenever and wherever it involves MuttleyLaff because boomerangs recoils on the originator.

gobuchinny:
Even if you r smarter, stronger, wiser than all humans, you are not smarter........than God. HE HONOURS HIS WORD MORE THAN HIS NAME. THE QUESTION IS, WHICH WORD? grin
I am this much close to about resigning myself to the fact you're a lost cause where this matter of the BoE is concerned
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Two Sounds Like Good News To You? by MuttleyLaff: 12:05am On Nov 11, 2019
Rekhina:
Amen Grace shud locate me cos am losing it ,I don't want to go to hell
If God can locate Cornelius, God's grace can locate you, can restore the faith that you're losing and help overcome any unbelief. Fyi and so that you know, any that obey the commandment(s) of Jesus Christ will not go to hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 9:34pm On Nov 10, 2019
Brock1:
R u aware dat, there are contradictions in d bible?
No, I know not of any contradictions in the bible and I am not aware that, there are contradictions in the bible too.

With the greatest respect Brock1, I beg, oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions, arent at all contradictions. They largely are phantom Bible contradictions

Brock1:
Bible were written base on inspiration by holy spirit, but how can we test such validity?
You can test its validity by checking on its truthfulness, its trustworthiness, its track record, fulfilled prophecies etcetera
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff:
gobuchinny:
My friend,
Nwanne, kedu, long time until recent, how bodi nau?

gobuchinny:
I would not have responded but I remember we have our gentle man talk all this while.
It is providence, it is good that you yielded to God's will and responded

gobuchinny:
For you to say God did not at anytime cast any Angel's in hell is to contradict the spoken word of God. I just say you have some balls to stand against HIS WORD.
My balls were given me by God, and I forever thank Him for them. Nwanne please show where , if not from the BoE, that God at anytime cast any Angel's in hell. Asides 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6 which other bible advanced the idea that God at anytime cast any Angel's in hell.

gobuchinny, I quote from the Quran, but it doesnt mean I quote from the Quran because I believe or know it is a God breath book inspired work of God. Similar applies to Peter and Jude, they quoted from the accursed BoE, not to endorse it but making a point with the references to the text in it they used

gobuchinny:
Remember that the bible says that God honors His word more than His name. God is a writer Himslef as everything is written down and He has scrolls Himself. Everytime He visits a man He tells Him to write. Presently if you claim to serve God and dont have a notepad, I question your service.
gobuchinny, God appointed only certain number of men to be writers. As a matter of fact, 40 men wrote the entire God's Word, that is the 66 books, making up the Bible. It will interest you to know gobuchinny, that Enoch was not one, among any of the 40 men writers inspired by God to write. Enoch, just never put pen to paper talkless write anything called the book of Enoch

gobuchinny:
5hat been said, human think there are smarter than God. Imagine you contradicting the bible directly. Saying that God did not when he clearly did.

The book of 2nd Peter clearly states so abi is Peter apostate also??. See, even the poeple that canonized the 65 books would have left off the books and added their own accursed catholic books but for the fact that God preserves His word.
What exactly and contextually was the book of 2nd Peter tackling and talking about now gobuchinny, hmm? You go school now, you sabi read, you at least are literate enough to be able to point out the true intentions of the two authors, Peter andJude, and analyze the whole context of their letters, the parallels or similarities

gobuchinny:
Or you think the canon was in the favour of Chriatians? Dont you know the history of the Church and the incursion of Satan to truncate Christianity which is a wind fall of what you now see in the society because truly the christain doctrine has been infiltrated by demons.
"I also tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
(i.e. meaning upon this Rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it.
"
- Matthew 16:18

gobuchinny, do not let the BoE get you in a reading slump, lol. Matthew 16:18 above and this is all, I'll for now, will say to your comment here, lol.

gobuchinny:
Dont be proud my friend. God has been in charge of the earth. Nothing escapes Him. If the sun can shine everyday then He knows how to preserve His own words. The Boe is authentic. It points you to the One true God and His son Yeshua. It points you to eternal life not carnality like the books your pastor authors which you love.
"Agbẹdọ" loosely translated means, God forbid bad thing

gobuchinny:
DONT PLAY GOD MY MAN. BE HUMBLE AND LEARN. YOU ARE BUT A MAN THAT WILL PASS AWAY AND THE WORD REMAINS. THERE HAVE BEEN SCRIBES OF THE LORD SINCE CREATION. THE JEWS WERE A MODEL OF THE LOVERS OF GOD SINCE CREATION. IT DOSNT START WITH THE PRESENT JEWS BUT IT STARTED WITH CREATION. THE FIRST LANGUAGE WAS HEBREW NOT MINE/YOUR VILLAGE LANGUAGE grin grin

Peace
gobuchinny, MuttleyLaff will rather stay true in the darkness of the book of Enoch and be humble in the spotlight of revealing what an accursed book the BoE is

The book of Enoch is a case of res ipsa loquitur, meaning the thing, the evidence speaks for itself, lol. Look at the slanders in the book now, the contrary to reason and/or common sense, the utterly absurd, ridiculous and impossicants in the BoE.

C'mon now gobuchinny, dont be in denial. Dont deny any of these which are very obvious to see now. Living in denial, only makes accepting the truth about the accursed BoE that much harder.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 7:29pm On Nov 10, 2019
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by MuttleyLaff: 7:21pm On Nov 10, 2019
gobuchinny:
My friend 2peter 2 vs 4 2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved into judgement
My friend, God did not at anytime yet cast any angel anywhere down to any hell, and/or hasnt delivered anyone into any chains of darkness, to be reserved into judgement. This is a traditional story popularly regarded as historical but not authenticated by any other bible verse except for 2 Peter 2:4 or Jude 1:6 and these two 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6 verses were lifted from the BoE, which , the BoE is never attributed to be scripture because it is an uninspired, not God breath accursed book.

It is the BoE and Jewish fables that popularised the concept of angels being sons of God, having sexual intercourse with female human beings, impregnating and marrying them. This is just lies, slander and a terrible figment of imagination

gobuchinny:
I wonder what these guys who say sons of God r sons of oduduwa think of this. Angel's that SINNED. And delivered them and cast them into hell and chains of darkness. The same thing BOE says.
The bible, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, never, says the sons of God are angels. It does however points the sons of God to be human beings. The BoE doesnt do or say human beings are sons of God because it is a book full of old wives' tales and beliefs that are incorrect.

gobuchinny:
So my question. What sin did d Angels commit and which Angels??. Because if u say Lucifer, well lucifer ain't in hell and ain't chained becuz d devil WALKETH to and fro hell...NO!!!. to and fro the earth. grin grin.
Oh oh, someone's woke, lol

gobuchinny:
You guys should circumcise ur hearts. You cannot explain God entirely and Yes, you are not smarter than Elohim
Praise God. Alleluia. lol

gobuchinny:
If humans can preserve carnal useless knowledge that perish with the reading. How much more the Words of eternal life grin
Thank you Abba.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Explain Genesis 3:16 To Me. by MuttleyLaff: 6:08pm On Nov 10, 2019
mikezuruki:
I saw the connection made. Thank you. Insightful
Thank you for creating the opportunity with this thread to build and/or make others grow in learning. If there's something in the dark, that needs to shine a torchlight upon, please, biko, joor, dont hesistate to shout out about it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 12:57pm On Nov 10, 2019
alphalpha:
There is really no point engaging this fellow. Is there? Why ask for the word Christianity and leave off Christian, which is mentioned at least thrice in the Bible, and whose usage came from non-christians.

The post is really insightful. A few comments here have also been enlightening.
Maybe its because he knows one or two things you dont know about the true meaning of the word Christian, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 12:47pm On Nov 10, 2019
Brock1:
Even if they r false?
Give me a list of examples, because I dont understand how you mean even if they are false.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 12:33pm On Nov 10, 2019
Brock1:
what can u day about Jesus going up in his physical body and that of Elisha.. should these recorded stories of the Bible be believed?
Yes, those recorded stories of the Bible should be believed
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Explain Genesis 3:16 To Me. by MuttleyLaff:
mikezuruki:
Genesis 3:16--unto the women he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thy shall bring forth children; and thy desire shall be unto thy husband and he shall rule over thee.

That was God saying to Eve having sinned against Him by eating of the forbidden fruit. My question (or questions) stems from the two last lines.

God said "...thy desire shall be unto thy husband and he shall rule over thee" What was the relationship of Adam and Eve like before the fall? Where was eve's desire attached to?

Were they said to be equal before the fall? hence God said "...he shall rule over thee"

Thank you. Happy Sunday
mikezuruki, because I am making the reply to be short and simple as possibly can, if I had left you lagging behind or somewhere in the dark, please dont hesistate to holler.

mikezuruki, Adam and Eve, were co-heirs in the beautiful and alluring world that God had set out before them. It will do you in good stead to accept and agree that Adam and Eve before the fall from grace had experienced and enjoyed the state of being calm, peaceful, untroubled and free from the ills of sin. There was nothing before their fall from grace, that disturbed the tranquillity of their garden of Eden life

mikezuruki, though, I am trying to make this short and simple, I think it is important to leap frog forward a bit and then will come back to return to the above to continue. So I leap frog to Mary and Jesus in John 2:4, where Jesus said to His mother Mary, the following words "Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come.""

From Genesis 3:6 and John 2:4 above, woman, by a God design, will always, put forward (plan(s) or suggestion(s)) for consideration by others (i.e. to the first Adam or the second/last Adam) mikezuruki, when one thing is said, the smart person understands three, I trust you're a smart person, who can join the dots to see the emerged picture, so I will leave and return to continue, besides time no boku dey.

mikezuruki, God said "...thy desire shall be unto thy husband and he shall rule over thee", meaning you will put forward (plan(s) or suggestion(s)) for consideration by your husband, but he will reject the decision or your opinion of the subject under consideration.

The first Adam should have overruled the woman because the timing was wrong, the second/last Adam could have also overrruled the woman, but though His hour has not yet come, the timing was right to listen to her suggestion etcetera

I dont want to go into the first half of Genesis 3:16, about "unto the women he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thy shall bring forth children" because it'll turn the reply into information overload and defeat the keep it short and simple purpose, but the second half of Genesis 3:16 about "and thy desire shall be unto thy husband and he shall rule over thee." is explained as you've requested. In the beginning, Adam and Eve were in equal partnership with no one lording the other
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 12:00pm On Nov 10, 2019
Seetto:
So that thing you called Jesus is your god that was disgracefully flogged, stripped unclad and nailed on a tree, crying like a dieng orangutan to whom could save him from death
Hmm, hmm, have you got a problem with that, because God hasnt got a problem about that?

Seetto:
grin grin grin grin only for someone to tell you he was born on Christmas day after converting the birthday of their triune idol gods to his birthday....kwantinue..
I have refuted that misconception about Christmas day nau, cant you read ni?
Now why dont you just answer the question put to you nau?
Like Mr Liar, liar pants on fire, where and when did Jesus, leaving no room for confusion or doubt admit He is not God, hmm?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 11:22am On Nov 10, 2019
Seetto:
You just admitted Christianity is a false religion and built base on lies and deceit..
Look at you clumsily clutching trying to take a swipe and scalp, lol.

OK and fyi, as for "Christianity" it is a case of res ipsa loquitur, meaning the thing and/or the evidence speaks for itself, lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 11:18am On Nov 10, 2019
Seetto:
Trash upon trash, another blasphemy against God Almighty,
One man's trash, is another man's treasure. What one perceives as blasphemy against God Almighty, is actually reverence and deep respect for God Almighty

Seetto:
You guys should desist from insisting that God almighty was disgracefully stripped unclad by his own creatures
God hasnt got any emotional or personal problem with being disgracefully stripped näked by His own creatures, only you have

Seetto:
and portraying the face of a an illusionist white man as Jesus Christ
You're slowly but surely showing your hand. Keep it coming, lol

Seetto:
you failed to prove anything here than ranting unnecessary, you are ranting up and down without quoting any verse in the bible to prove your claims.
Dont pin ranting on me, when it is actually you who went off the handle ranting about this and that. You will say this, wont you, besides whats the point in me wasting bullets and gun powder prematurely quoting verse(s) in the bible to prove claims, huh? At the appropiate time(s), you'll see and choke on bible verses, dont worry, lol

Seetto:
In the book of marks, a man walk unto Jesus and said good teacher what can I do to inherit eternal life, Jesus said why do you call Me good, no one is good except God alone, Jesus admitted He is not God, but you guys a forcing it on Him.
Liar, liar pants on fire, where and when did Jesus, leaving no room for confusion or doubt admit He is not God

Jesus said why do you call Me good, meaning, if you know who only is good, then please think carefully the implication of your words, when you call me good. There must be something striking about Me, which is why you call Me good, lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Did Not Resurrect Physically From The Dead - Pope Francis by MuttleyLaff: 10:45am On Nov 10, 2019
Righteousness89:
What did the Bible record about the Resurrection of JESUS CHRIST ?

This is not the First time the Present pope is saying things as these..

The Present pope is the False Prophet the Book of Revelation talks about in this Endtimes...

You can choose to believe whatever you want to..
When Jorge Mario Bergoglio was being made pope, he told his deacons that they had made a huge mistake in making him Pope. The deacons out of uneasiness, laughed off the comment, but it was truth, lol.

I am guessing, if any of the deacons by now are asked the answer to the rhetorical question, "Is the Pope Catholic?" their abrupt reply would be a resounding “No" lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Did Not Resurrect Physically From The Dead - Pope Francis by MuttleyLaff: 10:26am On Nov 10, 2019
nwokoromercyme:
A Vatican spokesman then said at a press conference that “the Holy Father never said what Scalfari wrote.”

He added that both the quoted remarks and interpretation of the conversation by Scalfari “cannot be considered a faithful account of what was said by the Pope.”

Replying to the alleged papal comments on the Resurrection, the Holy See Press Office said the quotation attributed to Pope Francis represents “a personal and free interpretation of those who listened, as appears completely evident from what is written today regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ.
I believe the Vatican spokesman than Scalfari
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 10:15am On Nov 10, 2019
Seetto:
Despite their education sophistication as acclaimed by most of them, they are still living in denial, how can a father be so wicked and killed his only son to wash away the sins of ingrates and wicked soul, the same people claimed they are the children of God.

The question is if they are truly the children of God, why does he chastise them for their sin.
Its often said, if you want something done right, you'll often times, will have to do it yourself, especially if you want the thing done properly. Something to be done right is exactly what all this is about and so what God did. This whole thing about "a father be so wicked and killed his only son to wash away the sins of ingrates and wicked soul ..." etcetera is a matter of the classsic DIY, aka Do-It-Yourself.

God looked for someone who could build walls or looked for someone to stand in the breach in His presence on behalf of the world so that it won't be destroyed, but He found no one and so God is lumbered with, doing a classic Do-It-Yourself by sending Himself to carry out the redemptive work.

God sent Himself, did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ. You do know that, it is not impossible for God to simultaneously be in more than one place at a time (i.e. meaning it is not something impossible for God to do, as in be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him. It is because Jesus is God. God as Jesus, gave up His divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, His Son. Alleluia.

Samulux:
I'm sure your are from deeper life
Who is from deeper life?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff:
Seetto:
So bible has no names, unlike Torah reveals to moses, the psalms reveal to David, the bible was coined from a word and not reveal...
Yes this is absolutely correct

Seetto:
Where in the bible is the word Christianity written
Just like the word "bible", the "christianity" is not found in the bible. Christianity, fyi and by the way, is a Constantine invention

Seetto:
Where in the bible was Jesus born on Christmas day
Jesus was not born on Christmas Day, any believer woth his/her salt and weight in gold knows that Jesus was born about around the month of October and not December

Seetto:
Where in the bible was it written that you should worship every Sunday
We have come a long way that it doesnt matter what day one decides or choses to worship

Seetto:
Did God ordained a religion to you called Christianity
What God ordains and/or see as to be religion, is crystal made clear, in the bible what this is

Seetto:
Who first mention the word Christianity according to the bible.
This have been addressed above. I dont want to begin sounding like a broken record.
Christianity Etc › Re: Wearing CAP In Church by MuttleyLaff:
Ishilove:
1 Cor 11: 4-8 NKJV.

It is pretty clear what the scriptures say and I do not know where you got your own interpretation from.

You ARE THE ONE MISINTERPRETING this passage.
MuttleyLaff:
"And every man who prays or prophesies while covering his head disgraces his head
(i.e. to make a shame, disgrace, bring to shame, put to utter confusion his head)
"
- 1 Corinthians 11:4

"A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God’s image and reflects God’s glory ..."
- 1 Corinthians 11:7

1 Corinthians 11:4 and 1 Corinthians 11:7 are the two bible verses that comments on man not wearing anything on his head when praying or worshiping, but as alBHAGDADI, rightly as put it, these two verse have been grossly misinterpreted. How you will know, is that Aaron and subsequent high priests have hats on in the presence of God and when in the temple
Dahling Ishilove, why dont you help the brothers out then with interpreting this
Christianity Etc › Re: Wearing CAP In Church by MuttleyLaff:
Cumpel1615:
Happy Sunday guys, I have being trying to ask this question for long but thank God I remembered today.

Is there any Bible verse that warned us against putting on cap in church? I really would love to know, and if not, what is the significance of removing your cap in church?
"And every man who prays or prophesies while covering his head disgraces his head
(i.e. to make a shame, disgrace, bring to shame, put to utter confusion his head)
"
- 1 Corinthians 11:4

"A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God’s image and reflects God’s glory ..."
- 1 Corinthians 11:7

1 Corinthians 11:4 and 1 Corinthians 11:7 are the two bible verses that comments on man not wearing anything on his head when praying or worshiping, but as alBHAGDADI, rightly as put it, these two verse have been grossly misinterpreted. How you will know, is that Aaron and subsequent high priests have hats on in the presence of God and when in the temple
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Two Sounds Like Good News To You? by MuttleyLaff: 9:18am On Nov 10, 2019
malvisguy212:
okay. to work out your salvation ,Doesn't it mean one can lose it ?
If one really, in the first instance, didnt have salvation, then of course, its just a matter of time before such one loses the pseudo salvation

malvisguy212:
Psalm 2:11 sums it up perfectly: “Serve the LORD with fear and rejoice with trembling.” if fear, why rejoice ?
You have started again, erhn?. Was it not you who up there just admitted that fear is synonymous with respect, huh?. So, I respect, and happily do so with feeling and showing of great joy.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Main Message Of The Bible: The Major Reason The Bible Was Written by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Nov 10, 2019
Seetto:
Where in bible is bible written..
No where is the word "bible" written in the bible, the reason being that, English word Bible, comes from the Latin word "biblia" which means "holy books".

Now, the word "bible" as previously said, is not written in the bible, but you'll however find the words scripture and scriptures in it, instead of bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Two Sounds Like Good News To You? by MuttleyLaff: 9:04am On Nov 10, 2019
malvisguy212:
you should've made your point clear. that's the arguments Paul and James address.
Is it my fault, if when I am pointing to the moon, but youse are looking at my finger tips instead of looking at the moon I was pointing to, hmm?

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