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MaxInDHouse:
OK you agreed with them because they claimed it's the God of Abraham shey?

Well the worshipers of Baal in Elijah's day also claim they are worshiping the same God of Moses so if it's not with us then it can't be our God!

The Scriptures revealed God to us as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

boltwings:
do a research about it, that's how to learn. if you don't understand after your research then you can ask me.

I know what it means to me. My question is what does it mean to you?

MaxInDHouse:
OK, so you worship the same God with all the others shey?
But no be so with Jehovah's Witnesses o if no be with us it can never be our own God!

As long as He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, yes sir.

MaxInDHouse:
Ask them if they're worshiping the same God or not but as for Jehovah's Witnesses as long as you're not one of us ọmọ you're not a worshiper of our God o!

Same God but different Revelations due to variances in the Holy book.
Just like Judaiam and Islam.

AmandaPrecious:
No, I have a problem with seeing dummies make up random theories and pass them as though they were factual.



Of course it isn't my fault that your arguments are bereft of any actual substance.



Gee, thanks a lot, Captain Obvious.



If you're trying to suggest that your claim of mothers appreciating motherhood more when they go through spontaneous VD is solely your personal belief or opinion (perception of the issue), then I have no gripes with that. However, it could be your opinion, but clearly it isn't fact -- as your repeated failure to back it up with evidence has demonstrated.



I wonder what this has to do with anything?

Nothing can truly make sense to you until you believe in God and he opens your understanding.
You're simoly secular and sensual and carnal.

You're intelligent (earthly wisdom) but not Wise (divine wisdom).

This thread is about ubfair judgment of mothers who give birth through CS against natural birth.
And what was my contribution?

1. The Birth pang of natural birth is symbolic. (I could try to explain the symbolism but it's spiritual).
It's painful and the Near Death Experience instills a sense of responsibility in a Woman. It's difficult for such a person not to care for such child.

2. CS is also a near death experience especially in Nigeria. This means the experience also instills the same sense of responsibility.

However where CS (and even natural birth) is not painful and no fear of death due to good technology and doctors as is obtainable in some quarters abroad, the absence of the fear and relative pain might not instill the sense of responsibility in such a mother.

Hence my emphasis is on the threshold of pain or fear attached to the experience.

I took the time to express myself clearly to you because it seems you perceive I made a generic assertion that all CS is painless and not a near death experience. Which is why you have practically been insulting and raining invectives on me, yet I have simply respected you all along.

If after all this you still have a grouse to pick with me, I'm afraid you're officially on your own.

Good bye.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why God promised to unite believers throughout the earth under one umbrella as if we are speaking one language! Zephaniah 3:9

We are Jehovah's Witnesses doing God's will as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So if you're not one of us there's no need for fruitless arguments it simply means you're not a worshiper of our God!

You've spoken well.
Just as RCCG submits and agrees to the leadership of Pastor Adeboye.
Christ Embassy (Love world) to Pastor Chris.
MFM to Pastor DK Olukoya etc.

So the difference here is that while you make use of a different bi le you all submit to, they all make use of the same Holy Bible and according to the revelation they received.

So I believe everyone is fulfilling their calling according to God's will. Some may have walked in error, some may walk in Truth but as long as the gospel is being propagated, the Holy Spirit knows how he will bring everyone that is of Him to Maturity and Unity of Fath.

Eph.4.13 - till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

MaxInDHouse:
What you're saying doesn't make any sense because the title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING which means if individuals from different geographical locations on this planet agree to worship the same God they should be able to think alike {John 17:22} that's what worship in spirit and truth means! John 4:24

What happened at the Tower of Babel?
Man can also gather together in one mind to work against God's will.

Which is why God Himself caused the discord among humanity y confusing our language Gen11.
Because there is the tendency for man's will to go against His will.

MaxInDHouse:
Now think deeply!

If God's word should be used for:
DOCTRINE
REPROOF
CORRECTION
INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS
So that the man of God may be fully competent and completely equiped for every good work.

How come you are not able to cohabit peacefully with your fellow religionists?

Whatever makes it difficult for you and your fellow religionists to agree on terms and conditions of worship and doctrines then you people don't understand God's word!

Same reason for every thing. God has given us Power of Choice.
Apparently your organization has taken your power of choice and is lording itself over you.
This should not be a bad thing if it is truly and sincerely in agreement with the God's Will.

MaxInDHouse:
What God promised is that the Bible will be used among His worshipers to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their midst and vow never to raise weapons against anyone neither will they learn how to kill again! Isaiah 2:2-4
Once that's achieved in any global group then God's will has been done successfully.
That's what Jesus meant when he said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of LAWLESSNESS" Matthew 7:21-23

If you're not able to utilize God's word to achieve the above then your calling Jesus "Lord Lord" is of no relevance!

What God gave scriptures for is for us to know and do His Will and it is not for you or me to decide. It is also decided in the scriptures;

2Tim.3.16-17 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't need the version causing confusion among you guys the version that's working out what is BENEFICIAL is my choice! Hebrews 4:12

Every written or spoken word/statement is open to confusion or agreement as subject to individual interpretation.
What determines the final interpretation is whoever is considered the Overall Authority concerning the word/statement.

For Language, it is the Dictionary of that Language- Oxford or Longman for English and others acceptable body.
For Profession Jargons, it is whatever book is peculiar to that profession. Lawyers have theirs, likewise Doctors, Engineers, etc
For Countries, it is the Constitution as documented by the 3 Arms of government
For Religion, it is the Holy Book as documented by it's Progenitor/Founder

For JW bible, I believe you agreed that is Jehovah and documented by Charles Taze Russell.
it is not that there is no confusion in your bible, because even in your meetings you share your various views. However, all your interpretations must be subject to your leader's interpretation according to your journals.

As for the Body of Christ (Disciples of Christ), the scriptural Overall Authority concerning the Bible is the Trinity of God (1 John 5:7) documented by various Authors/Prophets as inspired by God and revealed by God.

The agreed interpretation is what is revealed by the God- the Trinity, to the 5 Fold Ministry for the equipping of saints.
I know this is quite much to assimilate at once, but I hope it helps.

1 Corinthians 12: 4-6
There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.

Ephesians 4: 4-16
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”

(Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also [d]first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

boltwings:
yes you can. But the crucifix of Christ should be important in our lives, don't push it away, embrace it if you can.

If you don't mind me asking, what does Idolatry mean to you?

boltwings:
lol what guarantees heaven is a sinless life and nothing else, though there are other things that a Christian needs to do e.g receiving holy communion, baptism etc.

The crucifix like I said is just to boost my communion with God in a personal level.

Can you boost your communion with God without the Crucifix?

MaxInDHouse:
Paul was serving under the supervision of a Governing Body where Peter was the spokesman so they all had the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

So go and agree with your fellow trinitarians as for me and my global family we are doing the will of our God unitedly as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, our God is not your God. There's no confusion in our midst! 1Corinthians 14:33

When we begin to quote from the same bible, I might consider engaging in another discussion with you.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
But how come? A million and one pastors told us the same with respect to the just concluded Election but it all turned out to be lies. Are you also a pastor?

Because you were busy waiting to hear through your pastor what God wants to reveal to you.
There are things a pastor can hear concerning others if God wills. But there are Prophets for that.
But when the pastor/prophet speaks when God has not spoken, he will hear his own heart desire and think or assume it is God who spoke.
Some do it intentionally, some presumptuously.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NKJV
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

Dreal1247:
My Daddy has spoken. The truth is bitter. Unfortunately, some people won't be happy with this. But refusal to accept the truth cannot make it a lie. Truth is a stubborn entity.

This is a great day for the Body of Christ especially in Nigeria.
Dr Olukoya is a highly respected Man of God and Prophet.

This coming from him is significant.

May God deliver the church including you and I from our Greed and Love of Money.
Fear of Poverty and apparent Love of money are the reason financial prosperity gospel is a hot sell in Nigeria.
Any church that ties answered prayers to Tithes is teaching error.

But then again our beliefs makes these things actually work.
Because our belief is what Faith is. And that is what leads to answered prayers.

Genuine Faith that overcomes the world is a gift from God.

AmandaPrecious:
You must be a comedian in your spare time. Didn't you just agree that there hasn't been any established correlation between motherly attitude towards her children and mode of delivery?

You know what? Why not just simply post at least two links to any studies that support your idea of women giving birth through spontaneous VD having better appreciation of motherhood than those delivering through CS? Where is your intellectual honesty? You are making this more tedious that it's meant to be, running around the thread like a chicken with its' head cut off. I haven't even done anything to you yet and you're already pissing in your pants. Either provide evidence supporting your claim or accept that you were simply spouting baseless assumptions as a confused ignoramus or perhaps a bare faced liar.

You have a problem with seeing/reading only what you want to see in a statement.
You're not to blame, it is the state of your heart.
It is the way we are wired as human beings.

Our sight and our perception are 2 different phenomena.
When this statement finally makes sense to you, every other thing, including my replies to you, will begin to make sense.
Who knows, you may even start to believe in God again. Cos apparently you're now an unbeliever.

chiagozien:
Lies Yoruba tell themselves.

You people don't only love Igbos,you love Igbos more than yourselves.




People that are taught from kid to hate Omo Igbo 🙄🙄

How come your tribe believes everyone else is telling lies?
No be juju be dat?

Na so Lucifer take become Satan o.

Adabestseason:
The day this man died,from that day i realized that God seems not to be interested in this corrupt..................and demonic entity.

Same here.
Like he set Nigeria on the right path.
But God had other plans.

I believe God has however remembered Nigeria under this administration because we don too suffer and some of us done repent.

God rest the soul of Yar Adua and have mercy on Nigeria and us Nigerians.

RussellRutherfo:
I just pity genuine men who have kept themselves holy who if not careful will fall for these types of jezebels who have slept around everywhere and finally look for one innocent man to get married to.

May God help all innocent males.

I don't think she's a jezebel. Jezebel spirit is quite obvious- it's a domineering spirit.

If what she said is true, she thought she was in the relationship for marriage.
The guy probably gave her the condition of test-driving as some men do.

HonNL:
SOURCE

Previous Thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/7834796/moyo-lawal-leaked-sex-tape#125689044

I feel her pain.
Guys that balckmail their exes really are made in hell.

I hope she gets justice and more importantly I hope she and other ladies learn the most obvious lesson- sexual immorality bites and if possible stop recording yourself during sex. It can easily get into the wrong hands or be used against you when you least expect it

I sincerely hope she didn't fo this to promote her movie like some do.

MaxInDHouse:
This is exactly the same thing every reader of the Bible will say.
God's Holy Spirit helps sincere and honest hearted individuals to AGREE so that they can WORK together as the SPIRIT of God guides them but once you're unable to agree then it means God's Holy Spirit isn't with you people.
That's the import of 2Corinthians 3:6 which says:

who has indeed adequately qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, not of a written code, but of spirit; for the written code condemns to death, but the spirit makes alive.

Each of you will continue to CONDEMN one another when you're relying on your personal understanding of the WRITTEN CODE but God's Holy Spirit will help humble ones to work together because it's ALIVE in their midst.

No wonder James said your FAITH cannot help you to WORK together is DEAD! James 2:18-26

When you depend on the Holy Spirit, you submit to God's will.

It seemed Paul and Peter were divided but they were simply fulfilling each other's calling, one to the circumcised, the other to the uncircumcised.

When you understand this, you'll understand every thing that's happening in the Body of Christ cross-denominationally.

Nonny95:
Imagine supporting APC & being a chronic tribal bigot. Suddenly, you forgot how to reject Yorubas whose parents are mixed tribes. A real-life clown. Na woman go k!ll you las las.

Any one can be tribalistic depending on the circumstances.
And any one can thrash their tribalism under the right circumstances.

The Yoruba tribe is one of the most accommodating and hospitable tribes in Nigeria. But unfortunately Igbos have decided to take advantage of that.

When the rest of Nigeria rejected the igbos post Biafra, it was still Yorubas that still extended open arms in implementing Gowon's 3Rs.

You brought Biafra upon yourselves by cohorting with Hausas/Fulanis and cheating Yoruba's Awolowo.
The Hausas only needed to see your true duplicitous nature and they knew you could not be trusted. You staged a coup and murdered other tribes and expected them not to revenge?

Then you decided you wanted to divide Nigeria by force and Ojukwu declared war.
You were actually winning the war until Gowon sought the counsel of the then wisest Nigerian- Awolowo. Awolowo's wisdom turned the tides against you.
And for that you can't forgive Yorubas right?

But whose fault is it?
You betrayed Yorubas. You destroyed Awoolowo's dream of becoming Nigeria's president which you insinuated in him because he was already comfortable as the leader of the Yoruba region.

You wonder why you have never tasted presidency ever since?
Do you know the Grace that Awolowo carried?
Do you know what it means to be the wisest man in the Yoruba region?

If not because Awolowo abandoned God and became an atheist, he would probably have been the greatest man Nigeria has ever known.

I seem to have deviated from the OP.lol pardon my passion.
Anyway, know your history well and know that anyone can be tribalistic under the wrong circumstances but Yorubas are naturally not tribalistic because we are trained culturally to be accommodating people.

We still love Igbos but Igbos are hell-bent on their rivalry with Yorubas. Yet who God has blessed, no man can curse.

PrinceOfLagos:
Well, there is nothing wrong in realizing that Dr Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is on another level of her own and only rolls with the likes of the number one citizen of the world and united states president, Joe Bidden, then you decided to swallow your pride as the president of Nigeria to snap with African jewl and global citizen, Dr. Ngozi okonjo Iweala.

Asiwaju is a good boy .

This is the attitude that has been getting Igbos in trouble since before Biafra and I'm wondering is this not obviously a curse?

Seeing this picture one would think any normal human being will be happy that Nigeria is being globally repositioned and the glory of Nigeria is being restored. But your ilk had to dent such a momentous moment with your tribalistic bigotry.

Unhealthy competition and rivalry was the sin that destroyed Cain. And he ended up committing the first murder recorded on the bible. Guess what that earned him? Another curse on top the curse he already inherited from his father Adam.
Una no dey tire to dey heap curses upon curses on your heads, from generation to generation?

Why can't your ilk give respect and honor to other tribes even if they outshine you? We know it's not easy but is it not time you learnt the lesson and principle of honor?

You have your strengths and weaknesses just as others have their strengths and weaknesses.
Some times you will be on top, some times others will be on top.
How you handle your time at the top and how you handle your time at the bottom determines if anyone can ever trust you again.

You guys lost the Trust of Nigerians even from your very first Presidency with Zik, because of this same Rivalry and your Dubious Duplicitous nature against Yorubas and Hausas/Fulanis.
Even the last election that Yorubas still tried to overlook it due to the seemingly good intentions of PO, God still no gree for una to be President again.

I have so much I can try to share with you but as always for most of you, words of reason falls on deaf ears.

May God deliver Igbos from themselves.
Because even when God gives you good governors, you still frustrate and dishonor them. Even most of you never likes PO as a governor, you were onky packaging him just to have an Igbo president. Even Governors Hope Uzodinma and Charles Soludo whom God is using to try to reposition the East in his National agenda, you people still can't see their efforts and give them their due honor. Kilode? O gini? Maka why?

Once again, I pray God delivers Igbos from themselves.
And this prayer will be answered when the Igbo tribe begins to realise despise/hate their own Pride, Idolatry and Love of Money.

I celebrate NOI and PBAT because they are a blessing to this generation. May God continue to establish his Good will in them and through them in Jesus name. Amen

MatrixReloaded:

Show me your koko style. Show me your koko style

Very Ugly Ape.

I don't even need the Oracle to predict your future.
You need to be informed like the Merovingian. Even Neo won't be able to save you cos you're on the wrong side in this Matrix.

Ajibade123:
What are you saying?? getting pregnant and carrying a baby for 6-9 months is not enough to instils a sense of purpose, legacy and responsibility into a woman?? Until the child have to come through the vaginal?

There's levels to this.
To some that's enough.
To some the pregnancy period is when they're pampered the most so, it's not the same.
For some it takes the fear of dying which is experienced at child birth.
I hope this helps.

Yettttttunde:
Iam 37 now at 27 I did cs wen I gave birth to my first child ,I was stigmatized by my own husband and i felt very bad about it.he told me that his sister's have never done anything like that wen they were birthing children I felt so bad and angry but thank God it was successful.i gave birth to the 2nd born and 3rd born through normal delivery.God took control.inhave stopped.let me take care of the beautiful 3 that God gave to me.

That was quite insensitive of him.
I hope he's more sensitive and empathic now?

MaxInDHouse:
Use that hope to settle with him first before thinking towards my own side!

It's not mine to settle. It's between Him and God.

Only God gives understanding to any one when they obtain mercy from him.

At least your Bible teaches that the Holy spirit is the power of God.

Whoever is wrong or right between us, it is the Holy Spirit that determines that according to the state of our hearts.

I once tried JW but noticed so many errors, I had to leave.

MaxInDHouse:
Ṣebí you and the other guy are using the same Bible?

Hen nah, go and AGREE with him on your beliefs since you're using the same Bible before coming to me that's using a totally different Bible!

There's still hope for him. Can't say the same for you if you continue with that JW Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Please exempt me from your ARGUMENT with your fellow trinitarian, i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no God the father and God the Son in our own Bible.
Jehovah is the father of all creations and Jesus is one of God's sons.
If you have any problem with that first go and settle with your fellow trinitarians, be certain of what you want to believe before coming back to us!

There in lies the difference and great gulf between our beliefs.
Your organisation has a different Bible from everyone else.
So clearly we can not agree.just like Judaism and Islam until we come into agreement scripturally about which of us is telling the Truth.

successmatters:
Soludo will stand up tomorrow and debunk this propaganda,

The only thing the druggie team is achieving is fake news spread.

But Soludo has never been on the Obidient bandwagon simply because he knows Peter Obi better than you and I and he is clearly not politically or ethnically closed-minded.

And his judgment is more credible than yours and mine being an expert banker, an astute economist, financialist and politician.

So, what exactly do you bring to the table, I mean what is your CV compared to his?

AmandaPrecious:
Well,.... Pffft! No shit, Sherlock!

If you agree with this part of the study


...then why, oh why did you claim this initially?:


You confidently made a bunch of unjustified, sentimental assertions, posturing as if they were facts, and then started leapfrogging all over the place after being challenged. This is hilarious to watch 😂.

I am actually simply respecting you as a lady who should know better.
I actually am confident of what I shared.
If you do your further study, even secularly you will know this. Consult psychologists.

And if you desire to learn from the one who gives all knowledge, have a relationship with your Father in heaven especially through Christ.

God bless you.

CandidAdmin:
I just don't get it. I mean if you aint extra, extra careful, you'll easily fall.

Someone who I know to be fervent in spirit just fell because of that same sin.
I'm not judging, I'm just curious. Why?
Question of the day - How do you resist the temptation?

Devil's greatest weapon is Deception. Any thing just to make you disobey God.

Whatever is your weakness, he simply glorifies/magnifies/amplifies it as if it is the most important thing and desirable thing.

1. For some, sexual discipline is a natural gift they are just naturally not moved by sex. So that's not his greatest weapon against them. Whatever their weakness is what he exploits. However everyone can still be tempted sexually just when they start boasting about it.

2. For most of us yes, sexual sin is a major weapon. The first solution is to know it is your weakness. It can take you to hell fire and it can destroy your present and future.
The fear of God , the Love of God and the knowledge of the consequences of sexual immorality actually helps me. I don't believe anyone should boast that they cannot fall into sexual sin or any other sin, cos all we have is the Grace of God.

3. Sexual sin is actually quite a betrayal to God because our body is not ours but His. And sexual sin is what the bible calls an internal sin unlike other external sins. Like if you've received the Holy Spirit, then you body is now the temple/house/dwelling of God. How then can you share that same body with an ungodly body. Mixing the Holy Spirit with unclean spirit(s). It's quite deep.

4. Knowledge with Understanfing really is every thing.
Hosea 4:6. Ignorance or inadequate knowledge is why so many keep falling to these sins.
Unfortunately so many churches do not preach the significance of Sin and walking in Holiness through the Knowldge of the Righteoness of Christ we have received.

5. You should intercede for him in prayers if he means much to you.
Encourage him not to feel condemned. He simply needs to repent and rededicate himself to Christ.
He should search for scriptures that about sin, fear of God and sexual immorality. He really has to be intentional about it and fast if need be. The Holy Spirit knows how to lead him in this.
Some times God takes it away immediately. Some times it's gradual depending on the how much of a stronghold it is. He will suddenly realise God has taken it away.