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Enyinne:
No bank is currently offering performance bond thats what my account officer said (zenith bank) i guess cos of consistent price change in building material , no bank will offer such service .

To even get a performance bond means the engineer has some form of reputation/goodwill with his bank or insurance company.

somehow:
You bank with GTB
All the monies I paid you was to your GTB account
the PB you sought after was from a bank

Except you were just lying all through that period, tell the house why you couldn't get a PB for a week + or did I not request such from you?.

Wether its GTB or UBA remains relevant right now.

Your response should open you up further to the world.

somehow:
2015

This was before your bank got your true color and not for my project.

somehow:
For a week +, he couldn't get any response from his bank (GTB).

To get a PB, there are certain yardsticks you must meet, once you are being tossed around by your AO, just know you didn't meet the yardsticks.

folmus:
Seems we are going to see an end to the brouhaha.

seankim:
S[s]o why didn't you provide same for somehow? You lied to somehow that you are not able to provide the PB for his contract? So you had planned to defraud him from the onset. Bosun, you're a fraudster.[/s]
ALAYE GO AND PAY YOUR GBESE JOR.

To even get a performance bond means the engineer has some form of reputation/goodwill with his bank or insurance company.

Thenext:
N3xt try and be a man of honour.

presidency:
INSECURITY: IGP ADOPTS TECHNOLOGY-DRIVEN POLICING APPROACH, ACQUIRES FIVE ADDITIONAL HIGH-POWERED UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLES (UAVs)

• As police pilots conclude specialized training on operations, deployment.

The Inspector-General of Police, IGP Usman Alkali Baba psc(+), NPM, fdc, has acquired five (5) additional high-powered Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) to improve surveillance operations to checkmate criminal activities in the country in line with the IGP's vision and mission statements which include technology-driven policing.

The acquisition is the manifestation of the IGP's determination to integrate the use of innovative technology in the law enforcement duties of the Nigeria Police Force and ultimately enhance its intelligence gathering and operational capabilities. The drones will assist the Police in monitoring active crime scenes, coordinating response operations, and providing aerial support to responding officers.

The UAVs include an ALTI Transition, capable of covering up to 150km in a single flight with high endurance of up to 14 hours, and an Elistair Orion fixed-wing aircraft, capable of covering up to 92m altitude with high endurance of up to 50 hours and other sensitive and forensic-based features. These UAVs will be remotely operated by police pilots from the Police Airwing who have undergone specialized training from Engineers of the Elistair company, who were flown in from France at the instance of the IGP, for a week-long training schedule, and have acquired technical skills and requisite know-how in the operation and maintenance of the procured UAVs.

The IGP has however directed the immediate, adequate, and strategic deployment of these drones to areas prone to high-security breaches, for monitoring and intelligence gathering to tackle criminality headlong.

The Inspector-General of Police has further reiterated the firm determination of the Police leadership to continue to explore avenues to enhance police intelligence-gathering capabilities and engage the application of cutting-edge technology in the fight against crime and criminality while seeking full cooperation from members of the public on intelligence gathering and vigilance.

CSP OLUMUYIWA ADEJOBI, mnipr, mipra
Ag. FORCE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER
FORCE HEADQUARTERS
ABUJA

To even get a performance bond means the engineer has some form of reputation/goodwill with his bank or insurance company.

kalu61:
I will like to have your opinion on this staircase my carpenter did.
The original plan was L shape but client needed something different. We came up with the circular staircase though the last lap was not observed leaving as curved staircase.

sonnie10:
See, we just did over 2000 pieces of 2 x 4 x 18 for that mansion (Some were cut into 2 x2 thou). We bought from the open market.
Some were actually 16 feet and some 17 while the rest was 18 but they calculated all of them as 18feet.

They came in three batches initially they supplied #1200, then #1450 the last was #1600. Quality wood that you don't have to treat, they called is magoro or so over there.

I too experience these changes in price , but nairaland is not a good place to relate ones own experience for others to learn

sonnie10:
But we are still in the middle of that story. It hasn’t ended yet.
That is why I said for the supplier to bring the quantity he can at the new price.
Now that we know that the wood supplier is somewhat sincere, two things are evident
He was telling the truth about the current price in the bush market
He might have also been sincere about the quality.

Now do you think the price at the open market where she is about to go to would be cheaper for the same quality of wood? The answer is never.

So who is losing at the end? Assuming she buys them more expensive now, which is certain.

We are still here for reports on the actual price to compare if she would.

somehow:
A performance bond is what I think every potential client should ask from whoever they choose to execute their projects (After filtering known quacks/frauds).

I initially asked Bosun for this but he couldn't get any bank of his to answer him for days.

somehow:
Thank your God that you met a human with a conscience and not someone like N3xt who would have spent your money and then start posting you.

Crafteck1:
My friend owns liquor store, sells hundreds of thousands a day but accountability is never easy, he caught one of his boys stealing a pack of andre(4500x6),on arresting him he discovered his its been going on for long, a boy on 20k salary has been lodging in 25k per night hotels, on checking his phine, he de use drink of 60k wash hand for club, dey carry different gitls up an down, using 180k iPhone still bought same phone for a girl..


Do you know the number of Nigerian companies that used thousands of Dollars to send the staff abroad for two to three years training with the expectation the staff will work for them for at least 10 years, all of a sudden when the stuff is done he decides that he is bigger than the job and leaves, do you think the company would ever try that with anyone else workers are the most poisonous of all, generally they don have pity, they would steal until the business crashes.

DUNKA:
You are just incorrigible BOSUN you have been the main problem with your FRADULENT building activities of 13 known clients here.

Nobody should fall for your wiles again. See the advise and suggestions you have given kindly tell us which one you have done in your past builds

You are a quack and charlatan and you cannot be posting as if all is well. Refund somehow his money. Yeye builder all this your fake stories do not work again as even people that have sympathy for you are seeing the level of your desperation in trying to sound professional.and knowledgeable with the blatant lies, pictures and falsehood that your name is fully associated with.

BUYERS BEWARE. THE CONMAN IS ON THE PROWL AGAIN. E go red this 2022

n3xt:
For the fact that we do not have a system in place doesn’t mean we can’t protect ourselves in our individual transactions and minimize risks and preventable losses.

Here are some of ideas I think we can explore:

1. POD on supplies between 20k - 500k. See no. 6 below for supplies worth more than 500k

2. 10% contract security on transactions worth over N2m to be deposited with the owner.

3. Payment on Installments (POI) basis for Labour only contracts. Payment for stage of work is released after all works within the scope has been inspected and satisfactorily completed.
In event of additions/deletions, the difference is calculated and an agreed sum is released to the contractor.

4. Performance bond on contracts exceeding N5m. I think the issuing company now take CofO. Don’t take PB from jankara agents o. Banks and reputable financial institutions would do fine.

5. Parent Company Guarantee should be used when dealing with skilled professionals and artisans who cannot readily provide some of the security documents above.
The guarantor (who could be former boss, client, reputable supplier etc) would pay back the client in event of contractors default or losses incurred.
A form of collateral should be obtained from the PCG.

6. Hire verified suppliers the same way you hire contractors in a mega scale development and issue letter of credit.

________

Some few minutes ago, a client here just ring me to inform me he’s awarding a job to one of my artisans and need some form of guarantee.

I thank him and told him “I’ll ensure all the materials are delivered to your site before you make any commitment.”
I immediately put a call through to my supplier and ask the contractor to go and make booking on my account.

_________

I’ve equally tow this route on a project where the client need some form of guarantee.
We agreed the project would only commence when the contractor has shown some level of commitment to the project, so some items were delivered on Payment on Delivery basis.

redgem:
@sonnie10 @michlins @coldcandy @n3xt and the monikers I could not mention... Thank you guys for your contributions/advices...he has refunded my money! Will be going to buy at the market tomorrow with my engineer

rotecch77:
I greet all good and well wishers of this thread and Nairaland as a whole.

I have something in mind to shear here which I believed it will be of great help for both clients, build industry professionals,artisans, suppliers etc
Let me go straight to the point without waste much of our time.

The rate at which some good clients here are treated badly is alarming same applicable to some good build industry professionals , artisan, suppliers etc.

Some people will remember when this particular thread was almost gone few years back when some good people here ran away bcs of one reason or the others, I called back most of them then.
Now I can see that same thing is about to happen again.

Now this is my suggestion.
1– let’s create a well functioning disputes resolution thread to oversee any dispute that concerns construction and services related matters here.
This thread will nominate , home owners, elders, young and old minded professionals in construction field, a well biz guru etc to solve any issues that might comes up now or in future so that a good clients, professionals, artisan, sales men and woman will not be drag here without deep verification.

Because here a lot of biz to happens which requires good monitoring if am not mistaken
If you think nothing concerns you bcs you have not been duped or dragged here without proper investigation then when your own turn comes around it will be like a magic to you.

More suggestions are welcome in other to bring sanity to this section of Nairaland and Nairaland as a whole

flexyonline:
Bros, I made the first comment on that post. I honestly think you do too much in a bid to impress. No one is arguing about wood. It just comes off as taking us for toddlers when you say you rewarded the supplier after seven years for that. It’s just not OK. Please do better.

sonnie10:
Hotels and Suites
Location SE


If you don't gerrit, 4get about rit

Me: I had to reward the supplier 7 years later when I realized I wasn’t cheated.

Greenarrow01:

The woods
7 years on the floor or. Under the roofing

If on the floor
Did you put them in a shade away from weather elements.

Tori
7 years no be 7 months ooooo

Me: Smiles bro. You don’t believe it?

As shocking as it is, it is still outside there lying on the floor even in murky waters. Yet unperturbed.

Greenarrow01:
2011 to down is over 10 years bro
And you are saying for over 10 years
You didn't use these woods for anything on earth
Just left them wasting.
I have personally kept my sch bench outside for 3 years and till date
That bench is rock solid.
However the bench is as heavy as anything on this earth
It's fucking bends nail
But 11 fucking years
Haaaaaa

Greenarrow01:
The woods
7 years on the floor or. Under the roofing

If on the floor
Did you put them in a shade away from weather elements.


Tori
7 years no be 7 months ooooo

sonnie10:
She can only find out by going to sawmill herself. But righ now she need to act fast before story enter. Trust but verify.

flexyonline:
After seven years ………. Take it easy sir!

sonnie10:
That issue as at yesterday was like settled muddy water. To get clean water, you have to apply wisdom. You needed to thread with caution in order to get your money back or the woods you ordered for.

Now it appears that the water has been shaken, so the strategy I suggested might no longer be effective because you have given him a hint of what is to come.

I suspect the next issue he might attach to that now would be a concocted amount of how much he has spent to go to the bush for you.

Wisdom is necessary in dealing with people.

Good luck.

rotecch77:
I don’t have permanent supplier now in that Axis I buy anywhere I see cheaper rate. Cost of things are not smiling now
But for sand you can go to ilaje area very close to vgc you will see those China truck there loading direct from lagoon at good rate

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In other news this our ongoing duplex remodeling is coming out gradually by gradually.

NL good clients thanks oo