₦airaland Forum

IPOB123london:
could u tell us more or break it down further

but wait as it stand now

Fulani or Nnamdi who do u think fits in that category

the fact that born to rule boko harem hausa fulani told us vampire and killer herdsmen came from Niger or Mali does make it right

so aboki talk because the world wana hear from you

Nyamiri, go figure what a threat to national security means.

KINGOFTHEEAST:
for the sake of national peace osibanjo must step aside for northerners to complete their 2 terms yes no constitution must be followed cos there ll be riot in the north if osibanjo assumes office rather than a northerner truly its unfair

Yes to anything but NOT Igbo president, pls.

sweerychick:
As a lover of history, I've noticed that most heads of state produced from the northwestern part of Nigeria don't finish their tenure or die in office..

Murtala Mohammed from kano .. Died in office via assassination.(NW)

Gen sani Abacha from kano... Died in office NW)

Alhaji shehu shagari. From Sokoto... Was overthrown. (NW)

Gen buhari military head of state. From kastina (was overthrown)

President umaru Musa yaradua from kastina.
Died in office(NW)

President buhari ( currently) kastina. please God see him through.. (rumours that he's sick)

Sorry, Abacha too was not from NW, he only claimed Kano but actually Shuwa Arab from the NE.

As for those wishing ill will towards the president; may their bad intentions be returned back to sender ten fold.
Pls answer, Amen.

TheSlyone2:
After they are gone, who now owns the land?

Fulani herdsmen will claim it as part of Buhari's plan to Islamise Nigeria.

Latest recommendation from Aso Rock.

No court order can override any issue bordering on national security; for as longer as Kanu remains a national threat, he shall continue to remain caged in at Kuje with other gorillas like himself, being sustained on watery beans at the pleasure of the FG - until he knows the difference between a zoo and a country.

Latest message from the presidency to all the hate mongers who cannot see anything good about Buhari.

sinistermind:
They have come again o... Leave our Buhari for us abeg.

Don't mind them; Buhari will outlive them, Insha Allah.

AZeD1:
Shell has been divesting their investments in Nigeria for a while now. I'm pretty sure the goal is to manage only offshore sites.

Let them come to the north; Borno, Benue, Sokoto & Niger welcoming them with both arms.

lepasharon:
Later they say Islam is violent

They are following the preachings of Apostle Suleiman.

HsLBroker:
Just make sure your gun is license sir.

No it can't be because they do not issue license for such automatic weapons except by special waiver from the President.

Boleyndynasty2:
We should start from the mosque cause daz the headquarters of hate teachings. These northerners sef, you never condemned or spoke against the killings but now people are encouraging the Christians to protect themselves you now have some smart advice to give abi? You guys are really the problem of this country.

How many times have you been to any mosque to witness such hate teachings? You are just speaking out of assumption based on lies.
You are lying again; the apostle was not encouraging Christians to defend themselves but to kill any Fulani herdsman the see; don't forget the incriminating video is still very much around for all to judge.

idupaul:
Then Elrufai should be arrested first, he has been promoting hate speeches for ages now ..By the way why have I never heard the Sultan strongly call for the arrest of Abubakar Shekau and just want small rant from an Auchi based pastor he is calling for prosecution already

Stop exposing your ignorance and bigotry; pray tell, how El-Rufai incited hate or killing of anyone and how many times do you want the Sultan to condemn Boko Haram before you will be satisfied?

Nonsense, still trying to justify his undeniably indefensible despicable blunder.
In fact the more he opens his mouth the more he worsens his position and further exposes bigotry and low IQ.

How does El-Rufai's speech compared to what he ordered his followers to do; where in El-Rufai's speech did he incited anyone to hate or kill anybody?

El-Rufai's words, "We will write this for all to read. Anyone, soldier or not that kills the Fulani takes a loan repayable one day no matter how long it takes.” were simply a forewarning about the unforgiving Fulani culture of revenge - much as we are witnessing now in southern Kaduna; he wasn't inciting the Fulani to kill but rather emphasising their capacity for revenge.

Now compare that to Apostle Suleman's, "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM"...... "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HEAD, CUT HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued

Lets even assume El-Rufai was wrong; however, note the slight shift in Suleman, he is no longer bluntly denying but indirectly admitting to the offence and instead justifying it with El-Rufai's.
In other words the two wrongs should therefore make a right - can you imagine such shameful loss of moral compass and proportionality from a supposed man of God?

Can you also imagine that even after his narrow escape from the DSS, he still had the audacity to be threatening the nation with his supposed followers?

Rather than honourably owning up to his mistake and apologising with expected humility; he has instead been stubbornly unapologetic and un-remorseful, topping it with this latest insult to our intelligence of such woefully stupid defence.

CriticMaestro:
woooh hold up bruh, are u saying wen boko haram were busy burning churches most of it were perpetrated by christians? or are u saying boko haram are muslms, just because i criticized this doesnt mean i am impliicating anyone, i simply doubt the news thats all

Just read my post again and brush up on your comprehension.

Keep ventilating till una get HBP - no sweat.

CriticMaestro:
i hate propaganda, whats is the obituary of the dead female pastor killed in Abuja doing in the background?

Good observation.
What is becoming alarmingly clear is that there some evil ppl within the Christian fold stoking propaganda of hate to incite violence and war between Christians and Muslims.
These ppl could even go as far as planting real bombs in their own church in order to frame Muslims - lest we forget the CUCCIN church bombing by fellow Christians during the height of Boko Haram days under GEJ; I recall how it took a while before Muslims were completely exenorated from blame.

Boleyndynasty2:
Tell me something, Tell us something else. Do you guys really think Nigerians are stupid? You thought it's one of those things you do and get away with it just like that abi? Mr President please resign and leave Nigeria alone. You're too old and confused to handle this weight on your shoulders.


At 70+ you should be suckling on feeding bottles like pretty Mike, play with your grandchildren, tell them stories of how you fought in the war, how you always come first in your class while in school, Get enough sleep and attend to visitors once in a while not governing a country of over 190million citizens and still be biased n your decisions and appointments. Sir you've fail those who really looked up to you for change.

If you had followed the story more closely and dispassionately; you would have realised that the senate had rushed to send the president a preliminary report (i.e. still ongoing, yet to be completed) with recommendations to sack and prosecute the SSG; meanwhile the president saw reasons to tread with caution based on the content of the report and wrote back to draw attention to them.

Among them were apparent lack of fair hearing and quorum in some of the committee sittings etc (which may have been verbally later clarified by Senator Sani in the senate yesterday but certainly left out of the report to the president that could have avoided him asking questions).

The president was therefore well within his rights to have made the observations he did; the senate is now obliged to look into them and address them in its final concluding report to be sent back to him.

The president's letter could not in any way be construed as a presidential clean bill for the SSG or even an outright rejection of the senate report.

Unfortunately, our increasingly lazy and unprofessional media blew the whole thing out of proportion with its misleading headlines; while our half baked gullible youth, as usual bought it as gospel truth without questioning or independent thinking or rational deduction - apparently you are also part of that brigade.

saintmark88:
The man is simply a coward, a fake pastor, at d sight of DSS he went into hiding, he couldn't even face d authorities as a peither Tht he claims.... Men of God in d Bible never ran to the house of a politician for cover at d sight of soldiers or persecutors.... The man is a coward.....

Yes, a coward indeed and who was obviously not ready to carry his cross.

Frustration and hatred is driving some ppl to having sleepless nights and high blood pressure as they run themselves ragged and senseless through silly conspiracy theory after another conspiracy theory.

Meanwhile, Buhari been chilling in Rondon while they are gnashing their teeth.

kahal29:
The founder of Omega Fire Ministries Worldwide, Apostle Johnson Suleman, has denied instructing Christians during a preaching to go after Muslims.

Describing the report as not only senseless but malicious, he said his statements were misconstrued to incite the people.

According to him, he only stressed the need for the church to defend itself against invasion by gunmen and not a direct incendiary comment that could make Christians and Muslims to confront one another.

This is as Ekiti State Governor, Ayodele Fayose, cautioned the All Progressives Congress-led Federal Government to be mindful on how it handles issues bordering on religion in the country so as not to throw the country into religious crisis.

The governor had in the early hours of Wednesday foiled an attempt by the Department of State Services to arrest Suleiman in his hotel room in Adebayo area of the state for alleged inflammatory remarks.

He described the attempt as uncalled for and clear invitation to chaos.

Speaking in Ado Ekiti on Wednesday on the contentious issue, Suleman while debunking the report linking him to inflammatory remarks said it was sinful for anyone to order a fellow man to kill another.

He said, “They said I preached in Auchi two weeks ago which they said implied that I was instigating Christians against Muslims. I have always been an advocate of peace and I can’t stay around and be saying such. There are widows, orphans we take care of. No leader will see his shepherd being killed and be happy.

“Later, I got anonymous calls from Fulani Herdsmen about what I said. What I said was that, if gunmen came around church to attack churches, you must defend yourself, but if they come to pray, don’t attack. But they quoted me out of context. I am not stupid, I live among the crowd and I am not senseless. Time for self defence has come. Whether you are a Muslim or Christian, someone can’t just come to your house and kill your children and you will keep quiet.

“I said the Christians must not go after them, but if they come after us, then defend yourself. This is what they twisted to mean. I am hearing different versions of the story. I was in Abuja for three days why didn’t they come after me. But now that I am in Ekiti, they wanted to lump me up with a man they think was against them. It could have been easier to pick me up in Abuja, I don’t live here.

See video of the inciting statement:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkQJLKwWmo

http://punchng.com/i-didnt-ask-christians-to-kill-muslims-apostle-suleman/

What a bloody liar, how could the so called apostle deny the incriminating video evidence against him with the following inflamatory statements inciting his followers to kill:

(@ 0.47 sec) "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM", (@ 1.02 min.) "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued

He should be arrested ASAP period.

TheLawTheLegal:
You are a real aboki - lacking in intelligence and decorum. You said that our colonial masters started all what? The Arabic inscriptions on the naira or the Islamic logo on the army uniform?

When I read this, I lost hope in our common effort to educate the north. When did we start using the naira? The present army uniform, when was it introduced? The person that removed History in our curriculum has done an irreparable disservice to this nation.

If not that boko haram started killing your fellow Muslims, people like you lacking in intelligence and overflowing in idiocy, would have thought that Christians deserved to be killed by boko haram.

Trump in his wisdom has signed an executive order banning terrorists like you from entering the US.

You think that there are more Muslims in Nigeria? SMH. Why do you guys oppose the inclusion of religion in our census? What we have in the north are cows and rams being counted as human beings.But I know why. People like you understand that you have lesser brains than those animals.

You talk about intelligence and education while exhibiting absolutely none; you confuse mere inscriptions from another language (Arabic) and illogically ascribe to it a religion; much in the same way as it would be stupid to equate Latin or even Aramaic letters to Christianity.

Indeed, you are embarrassingly ignorant and irredeemably gullible; it wouldn't surprise me if you still believe in father Christmas; otherwise how would you explain a blocked brain that still sees the Arabic alphabet as Islamic symbols - even after detailed lengthy explanations.

Yes, I agree whoever removed history from our curriculum did this country a great
disservice; otherwise the likes of you may get to read why our colonial masters considered it expedient to start the tradition of adopting Arabic letters (aka Ajami) on our notes etc.

You keep repeating the same crap about Trump's racist immigration policy; well I got news for you, majority of Muslims and in particular northerners will not lose any sleep over it; unlike many of you Igbos who placed such high premium on America like it is some kind of paradise on Earth, even if it meant a lifetime of flipping burgers, washing floors and dirty dishes or driving taxis etc as a big achievement; so that you can come for Christmas and flex big boy to your gullible village folks, after having changed a mere meagre handful of dollars; unfortunately, among them would be some who would buy into that lie and find themselves on the next flight to Asia with a belly full of cocaine only to be returned in a casket as corpses executed for trafficking drugs.

As for the population figures in the south, well I guess they too must have included some monkeys and apes as human beings - how else can you explain for those hairy and chest beating traits?

The Kaduna crisis is not about religion but Christians are forcibly changing it into one; if they should continue forcing it that way then sooner or later all Nigerians will gradually be polarized in line with their religion.
Muslims have so far kept quiet and remained aloof; in expectation of Christian leaders and their organisations e.g. CAN would step in with statements to defuse tension and also reign back their recalcitrant members such as Suleman etc but to no avail; however, there will come a time when Muslims too will be moved to react, especially in the light of ongoing tribal and religious insults from Christians on several social media platforms.

Those with sense should appreciate that they are pushing this country into very dangerous territory.

TheLawTheLegal:
Read this
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200426-exclusive-struck-agatu-fulani-herdsmen.html
The problem of Nigeria is that people like you are not sincere. You call Arabic inscription on the naira and the Islamic logo on the army uniform inconsequential issues?

Since Nigeria is a secular state by virtue of section 10 of the constitution, why is Nigeria structured in such a way as to favour a particular religion to the extent of having their logos and inscriptions on our national identity. Are we all Muslims?

If I fulani herdsman walks inside a church, know ye that he has come to kill and in self defense, it is only right that his head be cut off. How can a herdsman mistakenly walk inside a church?

Indeed we all are not sincere.

And indeed the problem with some of you as someone just mention is primary 3 level of comprehension.
I have read the story and still can't find how a detailed explanation of the cause of the problem (the killing of their ppl including a well respected leader and stealing of over 500 of their cows by locals identified to the police who yet took no action) amount to taking full responsibility for the murders? Where did you read that the MACBAN or any of its affiliates took full responsibility for any killing?
Comprehension, Comprehension, Comprehension - seems to have evaded you; though I am happy with link because provided further insight to the untold story of the Fulani side of the conflict.
As for the Arabic currency inscriptions and military logo matter, pls do not quote to me any part of the constitution and further display your abject ignorance.
Kindly explain how usage of any language or alphabet constitute to adoption of a religion; do you know that there are arabic translations of the Bible and that many Arabs are also Christians?
Besides, if you should still continue have a problem with all of this, why not take your complaint to our colonial masters, also christians like yourself, who started it all.

Lastly, you can similarly take your complaint to God for creating more Muslims in this country - bigotry is a disease; stop being ignorant and hateful.

AntiWailer:
He must have over estimated his follower ship. He is not above the Law.

There is a difference between defend your self and saying

"Any Fulani man you see here, Kill him"

Do we accept that statement like "Any Yoruba man you see here , kill him " is in order ?


His statement and arrest is within the jurisdiction of DSS.

contrary to the lies in the wickedly crafted press release, Kaduna violence is beyond this administration.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/06/contemporary-ethnic-and-religious-crises-in-kaduna-state/

Violence happned in 1980, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1992, 1999, 2000,2001, 2002, 2006,2010 several times in 2011.

So whose Kinsmen were they when that happened ?

Note that we have started democracy from 1999

Let his gullible followers and those primed to hate argue how his words amounted to preaching self defence and not incitement to murder.

(@ 0.47 sec) "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM", (@ 1.02 min.) "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkQJLKwWmo

TheLawTheLegal:
Self defence is a guaranteed right. The right to kill another in defense of oneself is a universal right. It is a defence to murder.

You can also kill in defense of another person. For example, when your neighbour is in danger of being killed, you can kill the intending murderer and it will be a complete defence to murder.

Apostle Suleiman simply reminded Christians of this defence and the DSS is already after him.

When the association of herdsmen, I think they answer Miyatti whatever- openly claimed responsibility for the Agatu massacre, nothing happened nothwisthanding that they made the revelation right in front of the IGP.

Buhari said that the monstrous Islamic herdsmen are from lybia, the northern governors forum said they are from Senegal and Mali while the dwarf presiding over kaduna said that he has already paid them. Is it now a crime for Nigerians to protect themselves against the foreign Islamic monsters?

Some stupid people doubted how Buhari was going to Islamize Nigeria and went ahead and voted this disaster. I am happy to announce to you that the islamisation of Nigeria is here with us.

I pity us, we are never sincere.

What a fantastic lie, pls provide the link or reference where the MACBAN openly claimed responsibility for any killing or shut up - how stupid would a registered association that can sue and be sued be to do such a thing and still expect to go scot free; if not for your blatant lie. Where is CAN and other Christian organisations who would ignorantly pick on inconsequential issues such as Arabic writing on our currency and Army logo or the American Sec of State's visit to the Sultan etc?

As for right to self defence, no one can argue about that; had the apostle stood before his parish and called for Christians to defend themselves if attacked, no one would say a word; however, what he preached was quite the opposite; he was there openly and recklessly inciting his followers commit murder.

Thankfully, the video has already gone viral and therefore easily available for debate and public scrutiny; he could be heard clearly saying:
(@ 0.47 sec) "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM", (@ 1.02 min.) "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued.

In other words any herdsman who mistakenly strays around the church premises should automatically be killed on sight, irrespective of whether or not he poses a threat to anybody or innocent of any killings; according to this man of God such, person's death sentence was simply for being Fulani and a herdsman, just because he heard a rumour (a mere hearsay without confirmation) that some herdsmen would attack him - can you imagine that?
See the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkQJLKwWmo

How can that be construed as preaching self defence?

maslong:
He will only ban the ones with terrorist names.eg muha..... ,ladin.... , etc etc

Rubbish, he is also after Africans and particularly Nigerians who he claims take over American jobs - no doubt he would also go after the criminal elements which constitute the flattened heads.
Careful what you are wishing for; sometimes it may come back and bite you in the arse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFMvZRgQjw

maslong:


NO wonder terrorist and potential terrorist so much hate Trump.
Trump do not forget to also ban the ones from Nigeria, because all na the same. hahahahaha,kikikiki

But we all know the majority from Nigeria with unquenchable passion to emigrate to Amelica have flattened heads; and Trump will surely also be there waiting to kick their black arses out because he equally hates them - while remaining foolishly in denial, assuming him him as some kind of their messiah.LOL

AmadiAba:
Read Full Story HERE >>> http://igberetvnews.com/318367

Yes, he will sure die; but not before you, just like Azikiwe outlived all those who forbade his premature death.

But Sanusi married an 18yr old and they all rushed here to call him a pedophile; yet here we have a 70yr old also marrying an 18yr old yet none of them is calling him same - and Sanusi is not even near 70yrs.

Luckylife:
Nobody is above the law in a sane country where court judgements are obeyed but where double standard of laws are use . Imagine a place where Mali /Senegal bloody thirsty sucking fulanisherdmens terrorists demons are allow to kill it citizens because they are Christians farmers or PDP senator representatives or important minerals resources are found their and the securities agents busy kidnapping or arresting those calling for self-defence .

Pls do not twist it into a religious conflict because it is not.
It may not even occur to some of you that a significant number among the core herdsmen are not even practising Muslims but animist or atheists, and the killings merely a turf war over land to graze or farm on, after a failure in law and order; where majority of the culprits have never been brought to book, and in consequence there had been a natural tendency for both warring sides to take the law into their own hands - resulting in a vicious cycle of reprisals and counter reprisals, in which the herdsmen seem to be having an upper hand - and probably what is irking you and other Christians the most.

unclezuma:


After the baboons and the dog's did their thing, who am I to judge a televanpreneur?

Pls stop spreading lies through this much misquoted nonsense about baboons and dogs; in fact explain what you understand from the said Hausa proverb 'kare jini biri jini' and prove you too were not following and using it blindly just like so many ignorant bigots.